Please watch this video if you’re thinking about buying a Hatfield shotgun
@scottlitz31993 жыл бұрын
I have never had a problem with either of them ,but I have a Mossberg, a A Stevens ,a, Legacy Pointer Sporting ,a Springfield, a Hatsan as well that I collected over time ,yes I know what it is to be dissatisfied ,a Browning THAT was 1200 dollars and it broke ,a 2000 dollar Berretta that broke and had to be fixed ,it's just the name of the game .good shooting sir.
@dkerkowoutdoors46233 жыл бұрын
@@scottlitz3199 well sir you are very lucky to have gotten such a well working fire arm, I wish you the best of luck with it
@kylemiller81952 жыл бұрын
like the one I have never had a jam or anything like that
@MikeWitmerNatureJournal2 жыл бұрын
This happens with all kinds of guns nowadays. I recently bought a Mossberg shotgun and had many problems. It took almost a year to get a refund for the piece of junk after going back and forth with the company and the place I bought it. My sons very expensive Benelli also has parts falling off it. It takes months to even find spare parts. My old guns from 1970s and earlier never need a darn thing!
@delanorrosey47302 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the older shotgun is better than the newer ones.
@stevenrichards36992 жыл бұрын
Same here ! I love the old iron over the new plastic stocked, recycled beer can receiver, camo painted junk !
@Oran-354 ай бұрын
@@stevenrichards3699 Because they are outsourcing the metal (barrels) to third world countries, and assembling the shit in Italy, jacking the price. As to the Hatfield, it's made in Turkey, I consider them disposables. I use adapters, so I have to pay attention to barrels, because their two kinds of barrels (brain fart on the name), but if you use a high pressure round, the barrel could pop for the weaker one. Never had this problem when we actually manufactured stuff at reasonable prices.
@CopeMasterFlexx11 күн бұрын
The reason it seems like old guns are better overall is because all the bad guns from 40+ years ago were already scrapped or destroyed years ago. So generally, only the good ones survived this long. Mossberg makes great shotguns, they have a military contract for a reason, the Mossberg 500 passed all those trials back when those mattered. Any company can make bad guns, the bad ones over time will go away and the good ones will be left. 40 years from now, people will think we used to make better guns now, lol. They made more shitty guns back in the 70s than they do now, i'd bet, because there was no internet. It was easier to get away with making bad guns and it would take longer for people to find out over time, that's why the term "saturday night special" is from the 70s. Its about a shitty pistol someone might rob a liquor store with. I have a pocket pistol from the late 70s and it's the worst gun I own.
@PaleandPastey2 жыл бұрын
"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
@CornCod12 жыл бұрын
Some of the cheap single shots and pumps are pretty good, but inexpensive semi-auto shotguns are very hit or miss, mostly miss.
@paulfletcher9774 Жыл бұрын
I Bought the 20 ga, had an issue with the spent shells jamming, and a new one loading up. Took it all apart, disassembled the trigger assembly, polished everything that looked rough or had a bit of a sharp edge, put it all back together, and has worked great since. For the price point, I figured it would have some issues, along with the reviews I read. It was a simple fix.
@BigCypressSwamp Жыл бұрын
I notice a lot of sharp edges.
@paulfletcher9774 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, so it works great now, if u still have it, try polishing the sharp edges, smooth up some of the imperfections best you can and try it. Hopefully you’ll have some luck like I did. The only issue I have now is, lol, Ive gone through a bunch of shells now that it works good, it’s a blast to shoot! Lol.
@BigCypressSwamp Жыл бұрын
@@paulfletcher9774 I still have it. I had an issue straight out of the box so Hatfield is sending me a new barrel at no charge. I read a lot of complaints but in my experience so far they will send replacement parts under warranty.
@paulfletcher9774 Жыл бұрын
@@BigCypressSwamp awesome, hope it works out!
@stevenrichards36992 жыл бұрын
Mine runs like a freight train, I even like it a little better than my Remington 1100 ! Maybe you got one that was built on a Monday. Mine did jam occasionally when it was brand new, but regular cleaning and oiling with synthetic motor oil, with 200 rounds of trap shooting, broke it in nicely, so it cycles like butter. Sorry you got shit on, but sometimes things just slip up at the factory. Maybe some disgruntled employee was just being a jag that day, and thought it would be funny to deliberately install something wrong.
@Oldman8993 жыл бұрын
You still have the packing on the charging handle. Pull that black packing protector off. The pin that holds in the trigger assembly probably fell out. Use some loctite to keep the pin from falling out. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@dkerkowoutdoors46233 жыл бұрын
I did, to be honest I hate them things
@richardgonzales4815 Жыл бұрын
Their semi autos suck . Don’t know about their pumps, but their single shots and double barrels Rock!
@bollob97772 жыл бұрын
I can see how disappointed you are. Felt like a good deal initially only to turn bad. My son went through a similar ordeal. Didnt have/want to spend money on a high end semi but was disappointed by the cheaper stuff. In the end he went with the base model Franchi Affinity. Its been great. Works really well, takes some punishment and didnt break the bank ether.
@foxmoth54772 жыл бұрын
the trigger assembly pin is notoriously week and can be lose and not secured - and can actually fall out - and since it holds in the trigger assembly - you are infor a shocker when the shotgun is fired - as you found out - as some in the comments say - use Loctite to set that pin - actually the trigger pin - it seems to have a slight bend/curvature - and if removed - rotated and lightly driven back in - it will lock in much better - also do n ot over tighten the forend barrel cap screw - it can cause the forend to take a harsh load when firing the gun - and seems to crack the forend - i have a SAS12C - cammo - with synthetic stock and forend - hold up better to a tight cap screw - my SAS 28 has wood and no issues with it.
@dipstick586910 ай бұрын
Bought a Hatfield single shot 410 about 5 years ago for $99 and love it. My semi's are very old Savage and Brownings that cost about the same as what you paid for the Hat. Nothing made with quality anymore son! Hopefully you inherit one of your grandfathers shotguns one day. 😉
@matthewlee89172 жыл бұрын
When considering anything in the lower price bracket I try to really figure out what it actually cost to make the item. If it sells for $215 bucks retail.... Well Walmart has to make a profit... so does the manufacturer... So what your buying is a shotgun that was produced for somewhere in the $115 to $150 range. That should answer any question you have before ever picking it up.
@kuriboh635 Жыл бұрын
Just a couple of things. If the mag tube went flying like you said than most likely you didn't assemble it properly after cleaning, that is the most common reason for malfunctions like that but you also possibly assembled the spring assembly wrong which loosed the action by not allowing the system to run properly like it was designed to. Another is the weight and i dont want to be that guy but Google says its 7.75 pounds which is pretty standard for most semiauto shotguns if not slightly heavier but not by a lot. Also this is comparable in weight to an m4a1 with quad rail for comparison. Lastly they did fix the gun im assuming for only the cost of sending it to them, this is probably great service on a non us made gun especially when its only a $200 shot gun they wouldn't have to put a warranty on and most peoplewouldn'tbat an eye, time for a gun smith is expensive and not a shit pile of them to choose from these days so waiting is definitely something that will happen when you're not the most important or first person on the list.
@MrNutter772 жыл бұрын
My dad would have smacked Me on the back of the head if I told him I was going to buy a $200 shotgun from Wal-Mart . Two words for You , Remington - Mossberg
@MikeWitmerNatureJournal2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Mossberg pump as I have used their guns for yrs. It was the worst piece of junk you could imagine and the service from Mossberg was absolutely terrible. Took a year to get a refund for the thing. NEVER AGAIN.
@andrewlawrence63572 жыл бұрын
Remington is trash now and they screwed over 500 employees for over a year! I live 15 minutes from the ilion plant and they have produced nothing but garbage for the last 10 years or so! Id buy an old Remington for sure but new no f-ing way!
@orangeponygsxr93662 жыл бұрын
I have one i use it frequently no problems it had some hiccups ejecting shells the first 30 shells or so but not it runs flawless and mine is not falling apart...
@andrewlawrence63572 жыл бұрын
@@orangeponygsxr9366 like i said older ones i would take over new but they shafted all there employees for over a year! I live 15 minutes from the ilion plant and they fired everyone no benefits no severance pay nothing just a letter saying dont come back! The company went way downhill in the last 10 years and was being investigated for embezzlement and fraud by the f.b.i and b.b.u, and they are back up and running right now but plan to move the plant to georgia again leaving hundreds of people without jobs! Screw remington arms!
@orangeponygsxr93662 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlawrence6357 i was talking about the hatfield 😅
@toyman812 жыл бұрын
With some minor tweaking on these Shotguns they can work very well, Just need to know what you are doing is all.
@andrewamburgey82212 жыл бұрын
Ya he has no clue what he’s talking about 😂😂😂
@pbgd32 жыл бұрын
@@andrewamburgey8221 I mean here is a counter point, guns are supposed to work. They arent supposed.to be finnicky or confusing. So it brings up who should buy a hatfield. I could see maybe just maybe buying a .410 hatfield if you have never shot a .410. But would probably recommend a tristar. Maybe if you have like a dumb cousin who wants to hunt with you but wont buy their own? If you like shooting and need a 12 buy one cry once get a franchi if you're super cheap getberetta or benelli if you are frugal but like value Get a nicer benelli or baretta if you have money to burn. But a hatfield? If your cousin is a slack jawed nimwit buy one for his personal use
@IATowne2 жыл бұрын
Ya I took mine apart and went through it with steel wool and some 600git polished the internals and I cycles great now, only cycles high brass shells though
@guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын
F that. Buy a new gun it should work. But again , 200$ for a auto shotgun what the hell you expect?
@guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын
@@pbgd3sx4 is the best for the money
@boostedbilly73082 жыл бұрын
You ever hear of the old saying you get what you pay for
@bigtoad452 жыл бұрын
And yet so many of them seem to work fine? I own 2 in 28 gauge...
@markeffend165 Жыл бұрын
i had the same issue mag tube a gunsmith said 411.00 to fix so i said hell no so i bought a mossberg maverick 88 and keep the hatfield POS as a one shot slug or training gun and just subscribed cause you speak truth bro
@andrewamburgey82212 жыл бұрын
He’s talking about how heavy the gun is and how cheap it was!!! There good guns but dude it was just over 200$ what do you expect
@bigvon78483 жыл бұрын
I bought one for shits and giggle for a beater pretty much I have much better guns like the 590 and wingmaster...but the foregrip kept busting on mine with heavy loads like slugs and double 00...the gas system was what was busting it
@dkerkowoutdoors46233 жыл бұрын
Ya, they really are just pieces of junk but they can be fun for beating on
@jamessandifer34052 жыл бұрын
Mine acted up at first but after running some high brass shells through it. Shots like a champ now.
@rustycasteele61212 жыл бұрын
First off, you paid $200 for it, it's not ever going to be a $800 Bennelli. I bought one and when I got it home I took it apart and cleaned it, same as I do with any new gun. Mine had a couple of hiccups, first was the gas ri gs kept losing a spring, found out I needed to use the magnum ring. Next the fore end split, I was using TSS rounds, they sent me a new one. Now I have it fixed and it runs everything just fine. I mean every round, type of shell. I turned mine into my main turkey gun, it shoots right with my friends who owns Remingtons a d even Bennelli. I DO recommend Hatfield SAS 12ga. I put a Jebs headhunter choke tube in it, I use a Meadowcreek mount with a Swampfox Kingslayer optic. I added a sling and it has been a great gun, probably got over a thousand rounds through it. Every manufacturer has a bad one come out every now and then.
@ranchodeluxe12 жыл бұрын
Auctions are full of cheap, off brand vintage guns that are good, usable weapons. Plus, you'll enjoy the challenge of pursuing a decent gun at a good price.
@bhud19722 жыл бұрын
My Dad bought one. It was a piece of junk. It wouldn’t cycle anything but 3inch BBB waterfowl ammo. He’s going to disassemble, reclean, and sand and polish as many moving parts as he can. I hope it turns out ok. I got a Tristar Viper at the same time. It has been OK, but won’t feed all low brass ammo. I keep having people tell me that all semi-autos can be finicky with ammo. We shall see how things go with both of our guns.
@job38four10 Жыл бұрын
I been looking into a 410 SAS, you talked me out of this brand but I heard in past that Walmart usually sells sec-rate merchandise. I'll give Mossberg a look, maybe a pump would work better....
@earlhelbert1129 Жыл бұрын
Good you didn't get it i got one and reg.every shot
@swampcracker82308 ай бұрын
I bought the 28 gauge and had the same problem twice, Customer service said they'll probably just send me another 28 gauge.
@dannysmith60352 жыл бұрын
Try taking the plug out the loading magazine.
@independentthinker89302 жыл бұрын
He said he did
@adamkt40552 жыл бұрын
I love my Hatfield shotgun
@williambotts635 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I believe I will save a little more and get something else. Thanks
@tymz-r-achangin Жыл бұрын
We're seeing mostly good reviews for the Hatfield single-shot shotguns, but when it comes to the Hatfield pump and semi-auto we're seeing a lot of people having problems with them Sadly, Mossberg has recently started gouging its customers by wanting 504.00 for a mere Mossberg 500 .410 pump 😲 Just 3 years ago, I only paid 258.00 for the Mossberg 410 pump and just because of communist china's covid virus, does not justify Mossberg to double the cost to us
@bryanfix8722 жыл бұрын
you get what you pay for
@thomasguerrero72892 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you got a good one
@3peckeredgoat7352 жыл бұрын
If it sounds like a good deal it probably isn't. Keep that in mind for the future.
@daledennis18743 ай бұрын
I had one, and after 5 rounds the extractor broke.
@freakazoid9276 Жыл бұрын
Should have bought the pump. Semi-auto shotguns can be temperamental, even the more expensive ones.
@fordlvrx2 Жыл бұрын
I'm buying a Hatfield 28 gage pump I hope it's okay
@williamhazeltine93142 жыл бұрын
Mine fit 5 rounds, dono what your issue is...lol
@marcussmith98042 жыл бұрын
To be honest man, you have some mixed messaging here especially in your video made 7 months ago woth you shooting it. You say its not bad and then you cut off the video saying”This thing sucks” and it does. You are snart enough to say that you made a mistake in impulse buying. And you repeat yourself quite a lot and it makes your videos confusing but you said in the one vudeo that you shot 15 rounds and it cycles reliably but jn your most recent video you say its junk. Sooo… is the gun junk still? If you want a good shotgun for that cheap, get the maverick 88. Its not a semi auto but it is pretty mich the same as a mossy 500. But anyway I would be quite dissapointed and dissatisfied as well but your complaints don’t make sense to me.
@andrewamburgey82212 жыл бұрын
Amen 😂😂😂
@independentthinker89302 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my experience with taurus
@toyman812 жыл бұрын
I own 5 Taurus Handguns and have had 0 problems, My 1911 and my PT111 G2 eat just about anything I put in it.
@independentthinker89302 жыл бұрын
@@toyman81 I had a G2C that ranks as next to the worst gun I bought in my 69 years. Customer service was THE worst
@pistolpaulie48712 жыл бұрын
I own 3 Taurus G2Cs and ZERO Problems!
@independentthinker89302 жыл бұрын
@@pistolpaulie4871 great! I bought one, had a bad chamber, sent it back, took 4 months to get back a different gun, it was shot out and broken. They denied it was used, took 2 more months to get that p.o.s. back, still wasn't right. Tried to lookup the serial number on thier site, kept saying invalid number. Sold it cheap, never own another. That's the clifs note version
@soaredwood1627 ай бұрын
These guns are so hit or miss. I have seen some people have great results with this gun.
@RuckerBuilds2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like user error if all that flew off something should of been tightened back up before firing
@jreed102919742 жыл бұрын
I own the 12,20,28 all 3 great guns the 12 has over 5k threw it. I also shoot trap with the 20 and 28 no problems in 3 years. Would I trade my Stoeger's or my 11-48 for them no. For less than $250 they are good buys. The Tri-Star is the same gun they just sell for $550 and more.
@williamdaniels69432 жыл бұрын
WOW! it came flying APART! WOW! what a piece of garbage!
@monkeypunchent2 жыл бұрын
Seems like situational issues
@williamhazeltine93142 жыл бұрын
No issues with mine, works very well
@earlhelbert1129 Жыл бұрын
I wished I had watched this before I got one 😪 😭 😔 😩
@jacobdockery5798 Жыл бұрын
Hatfields are horrible. Mine cycles awful. It will put 2 shells in at the same time. I got 7 rounds thru it with the 7th firing during pumping my gun.
@wwilliam51 Жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for Go to A pawn shop and buy A brand name
@justinthomas2262 жыл бұрын
Yeah i hear you on those junkers. For your money the Stevens 320 or Mossberg Maverick 88 will serve you way better. They aren't pretty but they run like tanks.
@chrissutton8354 Жыл бұрын
I've got the mossberg macrivk 88 and was thinking about switching to this one just cause it's semi and I'd be good for trap at school
@justinthomas226 Жыл бұрын
@@chrissutton8354 hey buddy that's fine you might get lucky and get a decent one for school practice. But I'd keep your Mossberg too there is nothing wrong with shooting trap with a pump. Safe shooting 🤙
@chrissutton8354 Жыл бұрын
@@justinthomas226 after seeing all these videos im not to sure I feel like getting it now. I use my mossberg for pretty much everything from deer down to small stuff like rabbit and tree rats I had figured it would be good to get a second gun just incase something goes wrong with my mossberg I wouldn't have to worrie about not having a gun to continue trap with
@dennisboyett4082 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for, people!
@fpav4049 Жыл бұрын
Very good video and Hell no, I would never buy from them, anything. Thanks.
@tushers Жыл бұрын
I guess my question is what did you want, or expect? I feel like this might have been a good life lesson for you.
@todddavis9437 Жыл бұрын
What do you expect? Get a Mossberg then but believe me other people have had no problem with it and it runs fine I guess you just... I don't know but just get in touch with customer service and they will help
@jerryhenry662 Жыл бұрын
they don't care poor company
@pacman101822 жыл бұрын
wrapping the box so you cant see it's a gun box is law
@Duck12g2 жыл бұрын
After buying a hatsfield sas 3 1/2 inch special I can confirm you are on crack the gun is slim and does not weight near anything my 870 is heavier then it my spring is light and it loads like a champ
@danjames55522 жыл бұрын
You know what they say YOU BUY CHEAP, YOU BUY TWICE!!!! you should of seen that coming !!!! You don't get alot for $200 nowadays!!!! You would of been better off with a manual pump ! Be lucky !
@gabrielwhisenhunt670 Жыл бұрын
It is not junk I have had it for over 2 years and it is the best gun to me
@dennisneel9788 Жыл бұрын
I had a gun from turkey. It is sim automatic, called the silver eagle. Every time I shot it the choke to become loose in it with jam every time just about any gum of turkeys, a piece of junk in my book.
@bassboy69632 жыл бұрын
Are they really made in turkey? Even the pumps?
@dkerkowoutdoors46232 жыл бұрын
Yep
@bassboy69632 жыл бұрын
@@dkerkowoutdoors4623 I’m not surprised 95% of shotguns on the market right now are made there my panzer g2 runs nice though hit or miss I guess I was actually looking at the hatfield 12g pump and break away for some back porch fun
@randybird9979 Жыл бұрын
The single shot is also junk
@denniskennedy3311 Жыл бұрын
Hatfield is a lightweight gun
@SuperMatrix592 жыл бұрын
Turks make great guns little bro. With 50 extra you can tweak that gun to be great. It’s a shotgun. Not that many parts young blood.
@krisvang8881 Жыл бұрын
Do not buy a semi . Buy only pump and single shot are good.
@charlescampbell6695 Жыл бұрын
Your opinion I own one and love it
@logankosena8228 Жыл бұрын
So save a little longer and buy a name brand gun oh and probably not from Walmart either what’d you expect for 206 you get what you pay for
@johnbalasa7112 жыл бұрын
Yes go cheep way, it may heart you big time. Benelli 1500 dollars will do the job.
@WorldClassSatanist2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@SuperMatrix592 жыл бұрын
Did you handle this gun before buying. ? Did you look up hun for n the infinite internet. ? Cmon man 200 bucks you should of gone for the Mossberg Maverick 88. Oh that’s a pump. Sorry. Charles Daley. Booom mic drop left room
@calvinthompson1722 жыл бұрын
Your weaknesses can't hold it up sad for you. Stop lieing. ✋
@orangeponygsxr93662 жыл бұрын
Shoot mine all the time i don't have any problems 😅
@dkerkowoutdoors46232 жыл бұрын
And hopefully you never do!
@scottlitz31993 жыл бұрын
I have a 12ga and a 20 gauge Hatfield Semiautomatic shotguns and no problems in 3 years so U quess it's too late, lol aa
@dkerkowoutdoors46233 жыл бұрын
I wish I would’ve watched a video like this before I got mine
@nextiercannabisco44762 жыл бұрын
you pay for what you get
@melindamorton71742 жыл бұрын
Everybody probably has a Hatfield shotgun and I think I have a Hatfield shotgun so why are you are you making this video because it’s not you’re really precision I’m sorry to be mean but not really your rescission to make people not do it so yeah