Do Ported Chokes Reduce Shotgun Recoil?

Do Ported Chokes Reduce Shotgun Recoil? - TESTED

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How can a ported choke tube reduce shotgun recoil? There are many opinions but all the really matters is does porting make a real measurable difference. Here I test a ported vs. non ported choke using a recoil sensor and multiple types of shotgun shells to get real quantitative data on the subject. If a ported choke really can reduce felt recoil, even by just a little, it could be very helpful for hunters and target shooters alike. I reached out to the manufacturers of chokes to see what they say, and the results were mixed, so it was time for a recoil test.
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@PoppaWheelies 4 ай бұрын

4:57 the squirrel in the background says “ hey guys he’s talking to the trees again, it’s safe , let’s move “

@stephenparchewski1998 Жыл бұрын

The thing is, a ported choke tube is not a muzzle brake. The best explanation I found is that choke tube porting helps maintain a tighter shot pattern by venting gasses to the size of the muzzle. If there are any reductions in recoil, muzzle jump, etc, it’s not intentional and kind of a side effect of muzzle porting.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Check out Joel's latest video on choke tubes, it is the best video ever made on the subject. Its not turkey specific but the big points cross all constrictions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbmGbMyKqL6vl30.html

@anglerjmj Ай бұрын

Appreciate your transparency. Looking forward to your more in-depth analysis.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Ай бұрын

Thanks so much! I've done numerous videos on the subject since this first one.

@carlosfalcon7569 5 ай бұрын

I appreciate that you want to review the test procedures. I’ve been on programs with some pretty questionable test methods and results.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! This was an older video, I've learned how to improve things since then, check out the video I linked to at the end.

@REMYSCH Жыл бұрын

Great video

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@bent5434 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for testing for us

@bent5434 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if a 3.5 inch shell would exaggerate the differences. Would definitely kill your shoulder though

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ri7589 2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to see pattern differences between the two…

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

That test is coming!

@AmericanArmsChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Good video. For your follow-up, my suggestion would be to add at least a third extended ported choke with a more aggressive porting design and or a greater number of ports. The Carlson's are some of the lesser number of ports in comparison to ported chokes by Kick's, Patternmaster, Briley, and others. I think it would also be interesting to see the decibels registered at the shooter's ear and to his/her left and right with a ported choke versus a standard. Keep up the good work.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Decibel testing is an outstanding idea. I don't have any tools that measure that effectively, but I need to look into getting something. I think that is a big piece of the equation that I did not contemplate. Especially for shotguns that do not have ported barrels.

@donavonrobbins1908 Жыл бұрын

Any buddy's working for your local PD? He may be able to find a decibel reader for measuring loud exhaust pipes.

@cope4288 Жыл бұрын

Ported looks cool

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Yes it does!

@JWKnowsstuff 2 жыл бұрын

Good job

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@kokorico5416 10 ай бұрын

Nice video.Please make one measuring recoil through narrower bores and over-bored barrels !

@TheNewHuntersGuide 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@murrayandru7527 Жыл бұрын

Hey George no matter which tube You use , LUBE up the Threads with Quality Grease to make removal easier ... FYI...

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I do keep them well oiled. It matters, especially when changing them as often as I do for videos.

@rbutler1519 2 жыл бұрын

The ported chokes seem to actually help reduce muzzle jump a bit no? Loved the video can’t wait for the follow up! Your answering lots of questions I’ve wondered about on this subject. Recoil aside did you have a noticeable difference in feel of muzzle jump between the two? Side bar I love the BOSS 1s out of my franchi affinity. At 35 yards on a 32x32 piece of cardboard I had 119 on target with nice even coverage. 87% on target.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Thats a great pattern! I couldn't tell any difference shooting either load with either choke. I was hoping there would be more noticeable difference myself, but thus far I haven't found any. Thanks so much!

@brandonsmith8017 6 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to see the difference with a non-ported shotgun. Good video.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 6 ай бұрын

I did that test, too. Here it is kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gZZ9d7iHl7_No2Q.htmlsi=2u6ro-tyzDgUF-wo

@RealRyanDeLuca Жыл бұрын

Great vid. Wondering, does the porting change the pattern at all?

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Not from any testing I've done. Constriction is everything.

@dancortes3062 Жыл бұрын

My theory for your results are that most ported chokes have holes all the way around the choke. Many rifle muzzle brakes and compensators only have holes only on the top, which is meant to vent gases leaving the barrel upwards thus forcing your guns barrel downwards thanks to Newton's third law, at least in theory. Since there are holes all the way around the choke gases are being directed in all directions the same when there are no holes. In my opinion you should probably stay away from ported chokes. They usually offer little to no performance increase but increase the gun's noise levels and some shell wads have trouble with ported chokes as well.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

A muzzle break typically also vents the gas away from the shooter and up to as to lower muzzle rise and be a force that counters recoil. I intend to do a test that measures the volume increase by ported chokes as well, just haven't found a reasonably priced decibel meter that reads higher enough for firearms. They all seem to max out at volume levels shy of what a shotgun produces.

@slfurr4 Жыл бұрын

Three things. Looking at how fast you were shooting, I doubt the sensor could calculate the recovery time on the heavy load because even by eye you never looked even remotely set after each pull. Second, you’re stating “not much difference”, however, in my opinion you need to look at percentages, i.e., your Boss muzzle rise figures would indicate almost 145% (145.265%) more rise using the unported tube. Last, and from my own anecdotal experience - any help in recoil reduction with any Boss 3” load is helpful. Thanks for taking the time & money to try this test!

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

I would totally agree that more testing is needed. I have done some, and I plan to do more. This is a bigger question than this preliminary test can answer.

@alsaqernj Жыл бұрын

Thanks...

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@wisewhiterabbit Жыл бұрын

Ports matter, if they're designed correctly. Most of the choke tubes I see are more like flash supressors than brakes or compensators.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Choke tubes are not designed to be muzzle brakes / compensators. Their role is exclusively for pattern management. The ports are purely decorative and only increase the volume of the gun behind the muzzle. Sporting shotgun barrels are not designed for compensators with angled ports only on the top side that have strong anchoring to the exterior of the barrel or added exterior barrel threads. The ports on choke tubes are basically a marketing ploy.

@josephsnisky1851 Жыл бұрын

If you're loosing recoil your loosing energy on your shot ! Period . Now get in there and take that shot . Keep it against your shoulder and you'll actually enjoy the break from your shoulder pad .

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily, I've seen and used aggressive muzzle breaks that reduce recoil drastically. Some by as much as 50%. Bullet velocity and energy are unaffected because the gas loss and redistribution happens in the last 2 inches of the barrel after the projectile has passed, actually it is after the last 2 inches. That isn't quite what a ported choke tube is, but the principle is the same. If the barrel was ported halfway down, then yes, you could lose some velocity from that. But if the porting happens after maximum velocity is achieved, then there should be no significantly impact on energy.

@Colt1998 Жыл бұрын

If they do I’d be highly surprised at anything more than 1-2ft/lbs. Shot both, Code Black Duck and Carlson non ported cremator yesterday and couldn’t tell a difference in recoil or muzzle jump.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Yup, that has been my experience as well.

@Urria110 Жыл бұрын

4:59 is that a squirrel in the background

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Yes it is! Had a turkey sneak up on me once.

@Plainsimple67 Жыл бұрын

I BELIEVE THERE'S A BIG ADVANTAGE WITH THE "BRILEY HALIX" EXTENDED CHOKES, IN AN ADDITIONAL HELP IN MAKING YOUR SHOT PATTERN BETTER!!🤷‍♂️

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

What is the big advantage?

@Plainsimple67 Жыл бұрын

@@TheNewHuntersGuide IF YOU ARE A SPORTING CLAYS SHOOTER, IT'S BETTER FOR YOU TO HAVE A MORE EVEN AND UNIFORM SHOT PATTERNS, ESPECIALLY ON THE 40 TO 60 YARD OUT CLAYS. I ALSO USE SHOOTERS CHOICE CHOKE CLEANER TO CLEAN MY SHOTGUN CHOKES, ESPECIALLY THE PORTED ONES, IT MELTS AWAY THE PLASTIC RESIDUE LEFT BEHIND FROM THE PLASTIC WADS!

@nickb8618 Жыл бұрын

They reduce muzzle jump which means faster follow up shots on target with ported

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Why do you think that? How can we test it? If gas is vented impacting recoil, it would be vented in all directions which shouldn't impact directionality.

@jeansandmyshirt 8 ай бұрын

Nice! I noticed less recoil using kicks high flyer Xtra full on my stoeger m3000 28inch barrel

@TheNewHuntersGuide 8 ай бұрын

All other things equal?

@jeansandmyshirt 8 ай бұрын

@@TheNewHuntersGuide yes

@horne300 11 ай бұрын

How much extended choke tube increase velocity versus flush one? Would be interesting to see

@TheNewHuntersGuide 11 ай бұрын

On this sized barrell, I don't think it would be enough to accurately measure. But on an 16 or 18 barrell it might be enough to matter. I am hoping to get a chronograph for this kind of testing soon.

@tomcox3154 Жыл бұрын

Porting also makes for louder muzzle report. I have ported and non ported shotguns. I see no need for ports on a shotgun, I can't tell a difference in recoil. Only difference to me is noise level.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Yea, hoping to do a noise level test soon as well.

@FORDEVR 11 ай бұрын

4:58 SQUIRREL!!!! 😂

@TheNewHuntersGuide 11 ай бұрын

Nailed it!

@cougarhunter8304 2 жыл бұрын

To get the true benefits of a ported choke it needs to be custom ported to the gun all after market chokes ports are 360 why because no two guns will a-line the ports on top to combat muzzle rise like a ported barrel will do thats why mossberg ports there barrels to reduce muzzle rise and reduce felt recoil like that 930 your using (mostly muzzle rise tho )

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, to really get benefit you need to build it like a muzzle break with angled ports, but that is stretching out beyond what a choke tube can do. Porting the barrel is the more straightforward approach. Mossberg actually no longer makes ported barrels. All the new ones come with solid barrels, you can't even order ported ones anymore. I did a test video with the 940 Pro vs. the 930 and the 930 actually had less recoil due to its ported barrel. I asked why they went that direction and they said that the porting did not perform as they had intended. I'm not thrilled about it.

@stephenaddair Жыл бұрын

My Charles Daly 355 kicks my butt with 3 inch mags and I dread shooting 3.5 turkey loads but im waiting to get my kicks gobbler choke tube to see if it helps lol

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

3.5" turkey loads are just totally overkill with the 3" loads available today. There is no need to bite off that kind of recoil.

@stephenaddair Жыл бұрын

My Charles Daly 355 is light and kicks pretty hard with 3 inch nitro mags so Im dreading to shoot those 3.5 mags but I m waiting on my choke tube hoping the ported will help some plus I m gonna get a slip on butt pad

@shanebutcher9158 Жыл бұрын

Would have been a better comparison if your barrel wasn’t already ported.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Another test is coming with an unparted barrel and more aggressively ported choke! And higher power shells. Trying to eliminate every variable.

@happynurse8706 7 ай бұрын

I enjoyed but to me I think the only way you could measure recoil you'd have to have that weapon in some form of vice structure that maintained the same pressure in all directions you're still using a human being holding a shotgun and every time you hold it you will hold it different Your forces alone in maintaining the weapon will give changes

@TheNewHuntersGuide 7 ай бұрын

You are correct. I first investigated building a mechanical device that could provide an objective measure, I looked into pressure sensors, resistance models, and other approaches, i even read a dissertation on the subject. My conclusion was the cost, time, and space needed to do it the best way was effectively unattainable for me at the time. In fact, most gun, choke, and muzzle break companies do not even have that level of sophistication. What I have done in this video and the 2 followup videos is the most objective measurement process being done on this subject with only a handful of exceptions. Not becuase my process is so good but because the bar is so low. This subject is hardly touched in testing. It's sad.

@joncue0304 Ай бұрын

I understand that the raw degree numbers aren't that large. However, if you look at that in terms of a %, it's huge. Also, if you're wondering about how much data you need to be meaningful, the minimum data points you need is 32. That being said, that is the absolute bare minimum. You use those data points to calculate your process capability (Cp, Cpk, Pp, and Ppk). If it's not obvious, I'm a data guy and spent a few decades analyzing data, LOL. If you want to know more about it or need an Excel template, I can send you one or there are a ton of them available for download.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Ай бұрын

The average shoulder isn't going to be able to maintain consistentcy under that much shooting. More data would get you worse data in this case. This testing method is inherently limited.

@joncue0304 Ай бұрын

@@TheNewHuntersGuide Just answering the question on how many data points you need. Testing method is a whole different ball game. Not to get too deep in the woods, but if using people at all, you'd need to do a gage r&r and some other analysis, which is a whole topic itself, lol.

@jeffbarris8172 2 жыл бұрын

Do after market recoil pads reduce felt recoil? Would the ones made with sorbothane help?

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

They definitely do reduce perceived recoil, assuming they are better than the recoil pad that comes with the gun. I'm not familiar with that particular material though.

@jeffbarris8172 2 жыл бұрын

I have a savage/Stevens 555compact it's 5lb frame kicks like a mad mule I put briley ported tubes in it and still kicks hard so I ordered a kick ezz pad for it. It's made of sorbothane i will let you know how it works for me!

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffbarris8172 Cool! Might be something to test down the line.

@TommyboyGTP 2 жыл бұрын

You should test a Falcon Strike recoil pad

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

I want to. But that won't produce any difference in the data for a test like this. The mantis measures forces at the barrel, the recoil pad mitigates felt recoil at the shoulder. You would need some kind of load sensor between the stock and your body to measure the difference the pad makes. I haven't found a feasible way to do that yet. But I want to!

@TommyboyGTP Жыл бұрын

@@TheNewHuntersGuide Well, you could let your shoulder do the talking lol

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

@@TommyboyGTP Haha, yea but if you can't measure it then it's just my opinion vs everyone else's. I like to find someway to give info that is built on more.

@TommyboyGTP Жыл бұрын

@@TheNewHuntersGuide Understandable, but sometimes someone's opinion is also valuable as well.

@Plainsimple67 Жыл бұрын

@@TheNewHuntersGuide CALL KEEK EEZ, THEY MAY HAVE AN ANSWER OR TEST PLATFORM THAT WILL WORK. THEY MAY EVEN LET YOU USE IT FOR YOUR KZfaq VIDEO AND A GOOD PROMOTION FOR THEIR PRODUCT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO TRAVEL THERE!! 🤷‍♂️😉👉

@clockworkbike 11 ай бұрын

Are you shooting with a ported barrel on your gun? It would be nice to see this test with a non-ported barrel.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 11 ай бұрын

Ask and you shall receive. I linked to this re-test at the very end of the video also: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gZZ9d7iHl7_No2Q.html&

@tomcox3154 Жыл бұрын

Probably been a better test if the shotguns barrel was not ported to start with. Just say'n.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

And you are not alone in saying that! I am planning another test with a different barrel and several other things viewers have noted.

@Dundeeducks 11 ай бұрын

If you are using a gun with a ported barrel for this experiment, it undermines the entire experiment. The very process you are trying to illustrate should be immeasurable based on the choke if it has for the most part already taken place several inches before the choke tube. These results are not surprising in that context - as much of the excess gas has already been vented through your ported barrel prior to its arrival at the choke. Would love to see this conducted with a better “control” case on a non ported choke on a non ported barrel.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 11 ай бұрын

I ended this video with the link to the one you requested:) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gZZ9d7iHl7_No2Q.htmlsi=a0dsdpwRd0xNmFDs

@sergeant64 Жыл бұрын

*Not by any significance.* Billman Choke design will separate the *wad-cup* from the shot charge. Billman Arsenal sells similar chokes for about half the price on Amazon and eBay

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Thanks, how does that design improve performance?

@Will-Talbot82 Жыл бұрын

You should’ve ran the test for the 870 express

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Thanks, need to get me one of those!

@eduffy4937 Жыл бұрын

Ported chokes=younger aggressive hunters buy it. Non portedrtargeted to older classical guys. Not sure it makes any differenve other than asthetics and noise.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Preach it!

@aceperry4705 10 ай бұрын

Can't get my carlson's cremator to go in my barrel just wondering if anyone else had this problem

@TheNewHuntersGuide 10 ай бұрын

I would call Carlson's in the morning and talk to someone directly, see what they can tell you.

@davidhewgley6006 7 ай бұрын

From my shooting experience porting lesson muzzel jump /rise not that it affected recoil

@TheNewHuntersGuide 7 ай бұрын

Porting what?

@davidhewgley6006 7 ай бұрын

Porting a shotgun. Firing a 12 Gauge Gas operated had the least felt recoil. The next thing that affected felt recoil was the weight of the gun, lighter had more felt recoil. The guns have shot that are ported seem to rise less, A pump 12 and a Bolt action 12 gauge both poly chok & ported seem to kick harder than my non-ported semiautos. Thats shooting 7.5 1200 fps muz. vel. shot.The way to increase kick is increase the Velocity 1340 fps Muz vel kick was much harder.

@juliusjames5577 Жыл бұрын

The answer is no. I’ve had rob Roberts port my barrel and I can’t feel the difference.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Barrell porting is a other deal. I have tested ported vs unported barrells and there can be a noticeable difference. But with chokes, nothing.

@davidkirkpatrick712 Жыл бұрын

I say no cause the recoil comes before it exits gun

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Well, muzzle breaks do objectively reduce felt recoil by intentionally diverting gas to compensate. But choke tubes are not at all muzzle breaks. The explosion in the chamber does not create recoil, it creates pressure trying to get out in all directions. The direction that pressure is released determines the recoil. So there is at least a piece of it that is dependent on mass and gas exiting the barrel. There is further we could go into the physics but ultimately it doesn't make much difference because the choke tube just doesn't do anything either way lol.

@darkoneokc Жыл бұрын

Maybe lean into the shot some. That way you don’t look like Elmer Fudd shooting at that wascly wabbit. 😂

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

I'll try to do that next time.

@sjepson100 Жыл бұрын

Good topic. Toooooooo many words.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@benjamincullifer165 5 ай бұрын

I'd like to see this kind of test done but with a brake for a shotgun. 😏

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 ай бұрын

Do you know of one? I couldn't find anything realsitic.

@benjamincullifer165 5 ай бұрын

@@TheNewHuntersGuide yeah a good one called molot v6 I believe. Was made for the Vero and siaga. Also, look up clamp on brakes for shotguns. They get expensive. Upwards of $100. There is a couple others I've seen but don't remember what they're called. I haven't tried any... yet 😏.

@silveradorider01 5 ай бұрын

Invalid tests. the barrel was ported

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 ай бұрын

Watch the followup video I linked to at the end because I didn't feel like this test was good enough.

@gungan5822 Жыл бұрын

But you've got a ported barrel...

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

Unported barrel test is scheduled to be recorded tomorrow.

@kevink552 2 жыл бұрын

The barrel on the shotgun is already ported, test means nothing.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

That is like saying it is a gas operated semi so the test means nothing. A certain amount of gas is going to exit the barrel with every shot, the choke either will or will not redirect that gas to impact recoil. You cannot invalidate the test with any constant across both test groups. Now if I changed barrels between tests then yes, that would invalidate the results. But the same barrel will bleed the same amount of gas and produce the same recoil and we test to see if the chokes have an effect on that recoil.

@kevink552 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheNewHuntersGuide You need to go back to science class. Gun A. has a ported barrel, Gun B. un-ported. I'll assign an arbitrary number to the amount of gas exiting the barrel on each. Say the ports on gun A are siphoning off 25% of the gas from the full 100% that would be exiting the muzzle. That gas is directed upward, gun A has less muzzle rise and recoil than gun B before any ported choke is screwed into either gun. Now the ported chokes are screwed into both guns and fired. The pressure behind the wad on gun A drops off significantly past the ports in the barrel, how much would be just a guess but any remaining pressure would surely be redirected when the wad passes the ported choke tube. Gun B, all the pressure behind the wad is vented at the choke tube in all directions, the ports are located at the very end of barrel in the choke tube. Is all that gas redirected or is there still more pressure than gun A at the end of the barrel? The extended ported choke tube adds over an inch of barrel compared to a flush mounted choke tube there by allowing more time for the ported barrel to vent gases upwards. A real scientific test would have used both ported and un-ported barrels AND ported and un-ported choke tubes. All else being equal an un-ported extended choke tube might reduce recoil from the weight alone and when combined with a ported barrel even more.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevink552 I don't agree with all of your rationale, but I do agree with your conclusion. A better test would include an unported barrel as well and both choke tubes, preferably one with more aggressive porting. I didn't even own an unported shotgun when I recorded this, but I do now. I'll consider revisiting this idea with new test to see if the unported barrel makes a difference.

@Plainsimple67 Жыл бұрын

I KNOW ONE THING, SOME THE MASTER CLASS SPORTING CLAY GUYS THAT SHOOT OVER UNDERS, SAY PORTING DOES HELP. THEY ARE ALSO PICKY AS HEEAILE, WHO PORTS THEIR $12K TO $50K SHOTGUN BARRELS. I DO HAVE A NAME OF A PERSON THAT ONE OF THE VETERAN SHOOTER SWEARS BY, LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE INTERESTED FOR THE INFO.

@TheArby13 8 ай бұрын

Try this on a singleshot or pump if you want to be realistic. Semiautos do not have the same kick as a solid bolt type gun. Oh, back up please. I don't want to see your nose hairs.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 8 ай бұрын

I've done 2 more test videos on this subject, check em out. Oh and what's wrong with nose hairs!?

@skim2958 Жыл бұрын

Who even cares? Bird shots have very little recoil. If birdshot recoils bother you then you should stick to low recoil rounds.

@TheNewHuntersGuide Жыл бұрын

These videos are primarily for waterfowl and pheasant hunters, who will use the hardest recoiling game loads you can buy.

@ryanreynolds3630 4 ай бұрын

It matters on turkey loads, heavy bird shot for waterfowl, or even buckshot. We're talking loads equivalent or usually surpassing the weight of a 1oz slug. Shoot 3" or 3.5" heavy load one time and you'll understand.