The problem is his personal mentors seem to have not taken B12 which may have been the problem: according to Fuhrman himself Dr Herbert Shelton had the lowest B12 level he had ever seen in a person when he was elderly; Dr Vivian Vetrano was against B12 supplementation and wrote entire articles saying it was wrong to supplement; Joy Gross on the other hand was very much involved with natural hygiene, raw foodism and fasting and her stance on B12 is unknown to me. Despite all this all three of his mentors basically reached their nineties: Shelton 89 years and a few months; Vetrano 91 years; and Gross almost 96 years.

Guess who sells omega 3 supplements to vegans...

Jack LaLanne, health and fitness guru of the 50’s and 60’s lived to 96 years old; was primarily vegetarian but ate fish and eggs but no meat or dairy.He was strong and mentally sharp until the day he died!

I’ve been waiting for this. What a genius way to broach the topic!! Even at True North (where Dr. Fuhrman spent time) they told us to take our fish oil/algae oil.

I love that Fuhrman statement! "Nutritional gymnastics" LOL!! He's cracks me up lol.

I believe people really need to listen to this doctor. He knows what he’s taking about. 🙌

I once read that cruciferous vegetables, melons, squash and pinto beans were significantly higher in omega threes than most veggies, save flax, walnuts and chia of course, those are insanely high in omega threes by comparison.

he talks about studies but mentions none. His entire case rests on anecdote. none of the promises of fish oil have ever panned out, not even the big so-called benefit on heart disease. A Cochrane review in 2019 found no benefit. 2 years later the most recent Cochrane review found an effect on heart disease but the effect size was tiny. I've seen this a lot with fish oil / omega-3. Huberman talks about one study that found a big effect on depression saying often on his podcast the effect was bigger than antidepressants, but a large meta analysis found zero effect.

Is there a test for how efficiently a person converts the ALA in flax, walnuts, chia, etc. (or some other way of determining this)? That seems very useful to know.

Many plants have omegas and many studies show vegans omegas are fine. U can also have supplements. So u have no excuse not to be vegan

I prefer Geoff Palmers stance on on the omega fatty acid topic. Good information nonetheless

This is controversial as your body can convert other fatty acids to dha epa. The data is not as clear as he is presenting and he does sell the supplement.

It was explained to me that 6 & 3 use the same pathways so cutting back on 6 means proper 3 conversion. Do people just not cut back enough?

At 54 I have no desire to outlive my mind and body. At some point we must embrace all that comes with old age.

Omega 3 rich foods. Flax seeds, Chia seeds, walnuts, Edamame beans, soya bean products, fresh haricot beans, kidney beans, wheat germ, nori etc etc s well as oily fish. A whole food plant based vegan diet is well supplied with omega 3 A standard western diet, meat dairy, sugary products, bread based products and ultra processed foods is very likely to be limited to omega 3 from fortified foods such as spreads. I think the target audience for this video is misdirected.

Look up Dr Tim Radak and his talk on should Vegans supplement with Omega 3. Best explanation I ever heard. Ever.

Would be way more convincing if Fuhrman cited at least one study to support his claims rather than leaning on his personal anecdotes. His position is are further undermined by his product pitch. He may very well be right but he doesn't know how to address an educated audience.

People harping on vegan ALA are missing the obvious fact that algae has long-chain n-3 fatty acids, which is where fish get it anyway. Sure, be vegan. And supplement with algea oil.

Wish he had talked about dosage

The big problem today is the ratio between Omega 6 and Omega 3, which should ideally be 1 to 1, but a ratio of 4 to 1 is still said to be good. In the US the ratio is over 20 to 1 and many have a ratio of 50 to 1. The reason for this is all the seed oil that is now in almost all food which are high in Omega 6. Even eggs that used to be rich in Omega 3 now have an Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio of 15 to 1 due to chickens being fed Soy which is very high in Omega 6. Watch this lecture Dr. Chris Knobbe Are Vegetable Oils the primary driver of Obesity, Diabetes and Chronic Disease?

anecdotes dont make science

Buy my supplements cause I knew some people who aged poorly. Where is the science?

what about algae powder as DHA EPA supplement, wouldnt it be a cheaper, more natural and more stable alternative to oil extract? I only found the algae Schizochytrium as dog food, but it should be ok for human consumption as well I guess. Any thoughts?

Any concern with prostate health with omega 3 algae based supplements? Thanks

some vegetables contain omega-3 fatty acids, especially green leafy vegetables. These vegetables contain ALA, one form of omega-3, but it's not as potent as DHA and EPA, which are found in fish. The body can convert a small amount of ALA into DHA and EPA, but not very well.

This is exactly why I added salmon and sardines (twice a week) to my whole food plant-based diet of fruit, greens, vegetables, pulses, nuts and seeds.

I have heard that shellfish like oysters don't have a central nervous system so can't feel pain. So some vegans eat them. I'm not sure if they feel pain or not but would they be a good source of omega 3?

There’s no nutritional argument that rationalizes how humans treat animals.

Fish do not make omega-3’s.

I love this man his intelligence and his passion is amazing thank you for informing us this! ❤

......... Is prostate health a concern if taking DHA and EPA Algae supplements? What is the correct amounts?

Wait until he finds out that omega 3 is exclusively made in plants. Citing a source for his claim of vegans being omega 3 deficient would've really helped his argument.

Excellent, thank you!

Genetic testing of coastal populations around Europe and Scandinavia have shown a high prevalence of extremely poor conversion rates of plant omega 3s to EPA and DHA. Such folk are pretty much obligate pescatarians

How does one get an omega-3 index? Can it be ordered along with other blood tests?

You can buy vegan omega 3 that's flaxseed oil

i love fish but it comes with tmao and oxydated cholesterol sadly. And the oceans are depleted.. and fishes like to surf, respect to them.

Dr Lustig says only fish provides essential Omega 3? may we have your views?

A study came out recently showing that if someone supplements with a few tablespoons of olive or other vegetable oils it did diminish the odds of alzheimer by like 35% or something. Also, the late shigehara, Japanese doctor who lived to 106 yo, while active, also supplement with 1 spoon of olive oil every day in the morning. Does Dr Fuhrman know about this research results ?

there you go, here comes the product placement 😂

Im curious about their choline levels. As that can cause neurological decline in vegans as well. I only started looking into it after noticing i wasn't getting enough.

I take algae oil for dha/epa omega 3's you don't need to take fish oil. Sapling brand algae oil is way cheaper than eating fish every day it has no seed oils (safflower / sunflower oil) or carrageenan which is hard to find.

From my research and feeling when I partake is that a plant based diet is great when supplemented by grass fed buttter preferably goats butter 20 g a day is probably enough to supply the multitude of fats including omega 3

So if you order his product from Amazon how does it stay refrigerated

So he's recommending fish now?

Dear Dr Fuhrman, your advice is always so helpful. Have been taking vegan epa dha for years. Just wondered how your own epa dha fatty acid profile blood test came out. Dr Klapers levels were low. Thanks for all you do.

So would not be better to just eat fish? Maybe sardines once a week just to be sure?

But, what about non-vegans who don't eat fish? Can they get enough EPA and DHA? If so how do the victims they eat get enough to supply them? Many/most farmers supplement their victims with DHA and EPA along with vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids and amino acids but this is quite a recent development. Or is the answer that non-vegans who don't eat fish are more prone to these brain diseases if they live long enough?

Dr. Furhman I love learning from you!!! I would love your thoughts on why a lot of medical advice for Alzheimer’s and dementia the keto diet is being suggested!!! I have relative that was vegetarian and told to eat keto I would love to hear your thoughts!!!!

Doctor, what two supplements would you recommend for both males and females over fifty please

So get tested and see where your omega 3 index is, and add supplement (or fish) to your diet, if needed. He said an index of 6 is where we hit the safe spot for not developing dementia.

I think the Omega-3 thing could be a two-edged sword. Higher rate of prostate cancer with it (not sure of dosage or if women can also be effected) , higher cardiovascular disease vs less dementia/Parkinson's. The McDougall/Peter Rogers camp makes a good counter argument to Fuhrman. Hard to say who is correct. A lot of trade offs perhaps, like a lot of things in life.

There are also plenty of omnivorous people who don't get enough omega-3 in their diet, it's not exclusively a vegan (or vegetarian) issue.

oh conversion omegas of Flaxseed walnut is genetically based and variable thanks

Men have to eat fatty acids like fish meat and diary and cheese and eggs. Then there is no shortage of nutrients. Sugars and starches are the problem. Some vegetable and animal food is the best food. 100gram carbohydrates is the max. 20gram carbohydrates or less inproofes our life's. ❤

Very insightful

Interesting. I have a relative who recently started a WFPB diet which is basically 100% vegan. Within a few months I noticed she has become forgetful. She is only age 66.

Ghee is an alternative if its from grass feed cows. Their are many types of fat, and some very important vitamins are only available with fat as a carrier. Our brain is made of fats. I watch from time to time vegan content so I can eat better as a non vegan whole unprocessed food eater. It's not just Omega 3. I've eaten vegan for a time as a fill in for convenience depending on company. The animal proteins have been removed from ghee. Margarine does not cut it. Oils are not the same as fats. Maybe something better could be developed, but these products tend to come as mono types, and therefore are not balanced.

@JGreen9361 Partly correct but clearly an anti-animal based food narrative as the plant-based Omega3 you are referring to is not bioavailable. Of course, we are all entitled to our "opinions" and to follow the "science" that we see fit but that "science" may or may not be substantiated by facts. Just to put things in context, I am an experienced clinical/research scientist with years of experience in observing and assessing the relationship between biomarkers and health outcomes withing a clinical setting. You have to be mindful of obtaining the information "you want to hear" from biased sources. The form of Omega 3 from plants is mostly ALA and has to be converted to DHA/EPA as mentioned. That rate of conversion is at around 5% or so at BEST (let's say sub 10%) even in humans who have the most optimal genetics for that biochemical pathway. I'm not sure which part of that is not clear. It's a biochemical fact and we observe the impact of deficiencies everyday at the hospital where I work. That hospital takes care of an area with a population of around 2 million with a majority of plant-based Asian migrants (mostly Hindus who practice veganism as part of their faith). They are by far the most affected by all forms of metabolic disease including T2DM, high BP, frailty, anaemia, dementia and other forms of brain impairment, autoimmune conditions and cancer. This is not something that we unbiased professionals just "make up" in support of unprocessed animal based food. It's a fact. Importantly as well, as I mentioned in many other comments online, the DHA/EPA found in algae/plants is in the SN1/SN3 molecular configuration. It is present in the SN2 configuration in animals (e.g. fish that eat the algae) and this is the form that allows the most optimal brain cells penetration so it can act as a quantum molecule and convert photons into electrical signal (critical for brain function). You should refer to the lectures of Dr. Michael Crawford to understand this in more details. The issue with the plant based narrative is that it constantly plucks "half-truths" out of context just to be able to support the ideology. There are many examples of that disingenuous and non-scientific approach which I have described in length on many other plan-based channels (e.g. IGF-1 and all cause mortality, the Arachidonic acid pathway and inflammation, the role of saturated fat on the TLR4 receptors and the promotion of insulin resistance via the downregulation of the Glut4 receptor)...you can't miss my comments if they are still around as they are the longest and in parts (PART (1), (2) etc.)..they tend to disappear on channels such as Plant Chompers/Mic the Vegan etc. My responses also stop posting on many plant based channels after a few comments (maybe flagged as spam due to their frequency/length...I don't know)...so bear that in mind if you don't see any responses from me.

Has B12 and pollution free Algae based DHA, not related to vegan, a proper vegan diet DHA prevent this, adding mercury and microplastic, from fishes.

Eat a ribeye every now and then

this dude with the spiky hair, really

Brian Peskin

Who keeps deleting comments????

Shelton died at 89 even tho he was born 2 months premature. So does it really matter if the rumor about him having had parkinson's is true?

Most sickness are due to excesses, not deficiencies. But that doesn't mean it's totally impossible to be deficient to the point of breaking the body.

If I'm on a workout program for strength training I'm sceptical how this could help me maximize my strength and muscle without meat/eggs/fish because of lack of lysine. On the other hand no doubt when I eat enough fresh salads (paprika, onions, celery etc) I feel very good.

What about the Japanese diet? Natto and other fermented foods? What role should fermented foods play? Is consuming seaweed daily sufficient for omega-3 fatty acids?

Doctor, Plants are poison!

There was a man on chef AJ who told us to eat very low fat. Im assuming Peter rogers is wrong about the bad effects of omega 3 fats. I assume you’re correct about it because he does seem like a troll to me. Doesn’t seem like he’s doing it for the people. Im going to buy your EPA and DHA supplement. I’ll haft to test it out, thanks for the clarification on this matter.

What are your thoughts on C:15 fatty acid? Do you think it is a sufficient substitute for Omega-3?

Does ALA conversion decline with age? Also, is increased DHA called for?

No, thanks

1 can of sardines a day. problem solved

Once an old man age 103 said to me that the doctor who told him to stop smoking cannabis died before him

Ok... then supplement with B12 and Algae Omega-3s. End of discussion. There are also natural resources of those two. What's the problem again?

First vegan AND vegan Dr who is saying that vegan diet is not perfect for everybody, thou he should be prepared to be atacked by the 99.999% of vegans LOL

" Welcome to our restaurant. Today on the menu we have fish and heavy metals. And also fish and forever chemicals. Which would you prefer? And would you like your t oxic fish fried, steamed, or raw?"

Deluded 😂😂😂