"Portraying humpbacked whales as worldwide saviors could lead to humpbacked people having unfair expectations placed on them." - Russell T. Davies, probably

I’ve always loved the line - “No, I’m from Iowa, I only work in space.” I don’t know why.😁👍🤔

Fry: Now say nuclear wessels! Walter Koenig: NO!

The studio wanted subtitles for the probe and the whales. Nimoy put his foot down and refused. Thank God.

“Whales, Drinker!” “Nah it’ll be fine!”

This movie is far Better than anything Kurtzman could ever put out

This is one of those rare films where I get this feeling of joy when I watch it. And it's an equally joyous experience listening to Drinker and Mauler review it as well!

I agree with Anna That Star Wars Girl, the idiots on Picard, when asked what future thing they wished existed in the present, without hesitation said "acceptance." I want that Kidney Pill. I could USE that Kidney Pill.

"No, I'm from Iowa. I only work in outer space."

I expect this review to be filled with colorful metaphors.

My favorite original cast movie. I hope mauler likes it.

"Don't tell me you're from the Internet." "Nah, I just work there. I'm from Wales."

Star Trek 2-4 is a Trilogy and one of the best Sci-Fi trilogy's at that. Fight me!

Admiral, there be Wales here. And Scotland.

Ah, finally. The ONE Star Trek movie I've seen enough to remember (it was the only one we had growing up). I... I can be part of the conversation now 🥲

You guys should watch Galaxy Quest. 😂

This is the film that made me a Trek fan. I had seen some TOS prior to this but never got into it. I was 14 when The Voyage Home came out in cinemas and was late getting to the theater. I arrived while Spock was talking to Amanda and in the very next scene had to ask someone nearby what the hell the big screaming space cigar was. By the end of the film, I wanted more Trek, and not long after that I found a VHS rental shop nearby. I’ve been hooked ever since.

Classic Star Trek had a great deal of humor in it; even in serious episodes, there were moments of levity, jokes, and so on, all a reflection of the intelligence of the writing and the chemistry among the cast members. (And of course there were whole episodes that were meant to be comedies, A Piece of the Action, for example.)

Mauler would love DS9 - the most character work and set-up/pay-off of any Star Trek show.

THE KLINGON BIRD OF PREY IS EPIC

My dad and I didn't get along well at times. But we both love Star Trek. He is a Kirk guy. I am a Sisko guy.

1:52:54 The underwater shots of the whales actually WERE animatronics. They were so realistic that the save the whales crowd thought they had actually gone underwater and filmed whales. The production staff had to demonstrate the animatronics to convince them.

This movie turned a casual Star Trek fan into a fully fledged Trekkie. Fun facts. The movie was titled in the UK when originally released as The Voyage Home: Star Trek IV to appeal to none Star Trek fans and the promotion worked making it a hit with the casual audience. And when the movie was released on VHS, it had a little recap of Star Trek III at the beginning with William Shatner narration just before the opening titles.

We just binge watched TNG and all the movies including the original cast flics. I wish there were more.

MauLer proposes fixing a complaint about this movie with The Holdo Maneuver! If that’s not just pure gold!! In all fairness, Admiral Cartwright tells the President “We’re launching everything we have...” so it was addressed.

"I hope that restaurant is still doing well" I have some bad news about San Francisco these days...

The Starfleet rules about time travel are don't, and Kirk has decided he will instead do

I love how Mauler makes the whales/Wales joke right at the beginning, then again right at the end of the commentary, and both times it goes totally over Drinker's head. XD

This is such a great movie. I saw it at least 4 times in the theater back when it came out. Probably my all the me "feel good" movie

Regarding leaving Chekov's phaser behind, I think they covered their bases well enough. They show that it's broken, and I believe an internal examination would show parts so advanced that they just look like plastic, as often is with Star Trek tech. That phaser probably was considered a toy by the authorities and got stored in some evidence locker until lost or destroyed in one of the wars to come.

The number of whales in the 80s was really low. We have much more whales around today.

I like how this movie transitions from highbrow sci-fi to American excess in .05 seconds. Then, it has some fun pointing out that though the future is more "enlightened," it's really just as impractical and emotion-driven as the present, only with transparent aluminum.

Clever set-up with the tv so folks can watch along.

I'm imagining the pitch meeting for TVH. "Ok guys, just imagine a time travel movie, involving whales; and you're gonna love it." 🤔😏🤣

We know that Cryogenic Stasis is invented within 5 years after Scotty gave that guy Transparent Aluminum, because the Eugenics war starts in 1992, and a ship with that technology launches at the end of the war in 1996. (And in TNG we meet people from 1991-2 who were in a space module with cryogenics.) Its my headcanon that Transparent Aluminum introduced in 1987 made that possible.

Two words- Nuclear wessel.

I absolutely love this film.

The thing with the glasses though is you have to remember Star Trek II, III, and IV all happen within days of each other. So, it’s entirely possible Kirk had the glasses with him from the time McCoy gifted them to the events of IV

I'm from the USA and a huge fan of British science fiction (Wells, Clarke, Quatermass, Hitchhiker's, Who, etc) and it's really fun to hear a British take on one of our old American science fiction warhorses. I do remember seeing this at age 15 or so, it was a small town theater but there were fans in uniform from the slightly bigger town 20 miles away. The Challenger dedication at the beginning received general and respectful applause. That's John Shuck as the Klingon ambassador, he was the dentist "Painless" in Robert Altman's MASH (1970). His scene does indeed set up Undiscovered Country in a bit of blatant foreshadowing that I need from a Star Trek film in the same way I need Sylvester McCoy's Doctor to get bit by an alien he's trying to pet.

This is one of my all-time favorite movies!

“There be Whales here…..”

The Leonard Nimoy movies did not have Spock and Bones bicker, did not have the crew in the military uniforms the cast hated, and since Nimoy considered Star Trek an ensemble, he gave the not-big-three side quests.

When you realize they used klingon Doc Brown's ship to time travel 😮

IV has always been my secret favorite movie. It's the only one that felt like a fun episode of Star Trek. Wrath of Khan is amazing, but this one is the one that I would love to watch again.

In terms of seer joy and contentment this is my favorite Star Trek. I've never watched the original series not do I care about the later spinoffs. My Star Trek mania started and finished with the movies featuring the Original crew and Galaxy Quest. Wrath of Khan is great but for pure fun nothing beats The Voyage Home!

The scene where Sulu sees the Yellow Pages ad on the side of the building, he was supposed to meet his great, however many great, grandfather. But there was a problem with the child actor, and the scene was scrapped. Much like, the original scripts, Sulu was helming Enterprise as a favor to Kirk, because he had six weeks free before his next assignment. And when they get back to Earth, because he had been there for Genesis, that assignment was taken away from him. He WAS captain of the Excelsior.

Ah coherent lore that takes me back.

This one was light enough that a lot of trekkies could bring their children. ( I was one of the thousands of kids who watched the challenger launch in school--elementary in my case.)

Notice how the Enterprise crew struggles with the 20th century's "colourful metaphors" - with a running theme that 1986 is a primitive place compared to the more elevated 23rd Century that Kirk and his chums are from? And then along comes Kurtzman with his "sheer (expletive) hubris" line - from a 25th Century Starfleet Admiral, no less - to detonate an f-bomb under all that.

This is my fave, I dont care what people say :-) Very rewatchable.

1:16:18 The strange part is that the original series clearly and repeatedly established these characters use money in their era, there are lots of references to the crew of the Enterprise are paid, there is a galactic economy in episodes like "The Trouble With Tribbles" etc. This is literally the first mention of them not using money, a notion that carries through all Star Treks from here on out, but it's just a funny throwaway line. Heck, even in the previous movie, McCoy tries to buy passage to Genesis in the bar scene. Now, physical money, that's really all Star Trek IV needs to imply. Kirk understands how money works, he just isn't used to handing it around in paper notes and coins.

Gillian pointing out that she has a photographic memory is important to the story because it shows how at the end of the movie when she finds herself living in the 23rd century that it won't take her years and years to re-learn everything. She'll be shown something once and retain the memory.

Regarding bloopers, I remember when I saw Grumpy old men the first time. I nearly split my sides when the bloopers came on.

This isn't the best Star Trek movie, but it is the one I enjoy the most. It's just a lot of fun. I'd watch this any time and be in a better mood after than I was before I put it on, every time. I've found it flipping through channels late at night (back when I still even owned a TV) and would always stop flipping and just watch this. I'm sure it's the Star Trek movie I've watched the most times, and I'm sure it's not even close.

Love this movie! So glad Mauler is becoming a low key treckie!

Female character I like/love. Valeria from Conan the Barbarian doesn't get mentioned enough.

I always understood the whole "we don't use money" line referred to them not using physical currency in the Federation, but there's still some form of electronic or digital payment.

Can’t wait until Mauler gets to The undiscovered country, he’s gonna have a ball with that one… hopefully the final frontier doesn’t take him out with cringe before it happens.

I loved this one. Mostly i think because it was so different, at the time, than the normal sci-fi fare. Of course, it's basic plot was repeated a lot in movies and tv shows for years afterwards.

If you're wondering how or why they put in accurate engineering about the amount of "transparent aluminum" they would need to make a tank like that, remember that they filmed this partially at the Monterey Bay Aquarium, which hand opened only two years before. The Aquarium has enormous two- and three-story tanks of water with transparent sides. If James Doohan (or any of the rest) had politely asked any of the engineers who had worked on those tanks to draw up engineering plans for refitting a Klingon Bird of Prey with transparent aluminum bulkheads, I'd imagine they would have been thrilled to help.

The Drinker has kids?? That’s quite a revelation I didn’t expect.

This has always been my favorite Star Trek movie. I like the lighter tone and the larger roles for the ensemble cast outside of the main trio. Also, as an animal lover, the whales storyline always appealed to me on a gut level. I requested "the one with the whales" so often as a kid that my parents stopped bothering to ask which movie I wanted to watch when it was my turn to pick, and just put this on automatically.

Time to take a dip with George and Gracie.

Though it’s a toss up between Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country as my favorite Trek film because they’re both so solid, I can’t dispute The Voyage Home’s contribution to Trek as a whole. I have the fond memory of my folks taking me to see it in theaters when it originally released. Seeing the dedication to the crew of the Challenger while still fresh in the American consciousness was a sobering reminder. And smart to put it at the beginning versus the end dampening the joyous tone. I can’t wait until you guys get The Final Frontier. It had such a problematic production but it had such great moments with the three leads. The bickering was very on point for the franchise. They carry the film.

By this point, Star Trek novels were well established, so they took on many of the loose ends in the movies, so the movies didn’t feel as much pressure to tie everything up. “Probe” is the direct result of this movie, and is a banger of a romp.

Hospital chase scene is perfect!

Recently watched this for the first time in my quest to watch all the original star trek movies. I liked it.

YES YES! I can't wait. I love your streams and especially your Star Trek movie reviews. But Star Trek 4 has got to be my favorite of ALL of the Star Trek films.

Yeah, they had movie nights in some of the series, like Star Trek Enterprise and Voyager

I was little when I saw this movie for the first time. I always watched Star Trek with my parents since it was in syndication in my area almost every night. Because of that, I didn't understand the modern cultural references, so I also felt like a fish out of water along with the crew. I knew Star Trek more than the real outside world. It wasn't until I got older that I understood the humor and culturally significant elements more. On a note on Challenger. Reagan's speech about it when the disaster happened it quite heartfelt and definitely worth a watch.

The Whalers are speaking Whalesh

You got to watch Star Trek 5..... As bad as it is, parts of the dialog are great fun. It's elements of friendship and lore make the arc of these characters more complete.

Whales in Space!!!

Great thing about this particular watch party is that I don't need the audio to follow along as I've seen it maybe 1000 times

The best Star Trek movie.

I CANNOT WAIT for Mauler to see Undiscovered Country! As much as I love WoK, Undiscovered Country is my absolute favorite of the TOS movies!

"Kirk and Spock have such good timing, you could just have the two of them walking around a town and that would be fun" Huh. THAT would be an interesting thing to put into a random SciFi show.

Nimoy’s blocking of the bridge decision to go back in time scene was amazing.

I won't argue anyone who finds Wrath of Khan their favorite. But for me, this is my favorite, because it feels the most like the original show.

The last truly great Star Trek movie. I remember watching it in the theater when it came out

It's good to see you guys to continue with this series and it's funny to see MauLer trying to be diplomatic so he he won't offend Trek fans.😂That being said 19:19 - silly Longman, people of Federation don't have missiles, they have photon torpedoes ! And all though we've seen them being fired at considerable distances - episode TNG Wounded shown torpedoes being effective at the distance of 300 thousand kilometers - I doubt that firing at the probe would work. Yes, inertia should carry projectiles at intend target but there are at least few way to deal with objects without it's own propulsion in ST; 1. tractor beam - it can not only capture & immobilize objects but it also can push it away. 2. phasers - it was shown being capable of shooting down large amount of small & relatively fast moving objects. 3. transporters - it was shown on occasions that you can beam up objects moving trough space. And that's only few ways in which probe could defend itself because being alien ancient technology it can have other defensive measures unknown to Federation. And assuming that he wouldn't simply changed course and flew around incoming projectiles. Should Starfleet try to do something to stop the probe? Probably but I don't see what realistically they could do without writers using some kind of deus ex machina? So, maybe line of dialog about countermeasures failing would be desirable but still I think that UFP was helpless against this probe. That being said I enjoy those conversation you guys have and I wonder how MauLer will react to Star Trek V ? 😂 Live long and prosper! 🖖

Thanks for doing this guys!

This is the Star Trek movie I've seen the most. My mom had it on VHS. It was the only one we owned, so I watched it a bunch growing up. However, I think Undiscovered Country is probably my favorite.

I did it was a a great reminiscence of happier times💜

This is one of those times in a franchise where going in a different direction was a great Idea. This movie is far more light-hearted, innocent fun and I think the franchise needed it after 3 movies that were at times very dark, serious and heavy. Is 4 a masterpiece or the best movie in the franchise? No but it's a lot of fun and honestly it's actually aged really well, my ex girlfriend who wasn't into star trek watched this movie with me over Christmas about a decade ago. Even though she knew nothing about star trek even she had a blast.

This was awesome I worked today and I listened all day..cheers and thanks y’all are the best hope to see y’all in Boston Massachusetts when they have there comic con..

My uncle worked on this film. When we heard the plot, we thought it was the dumbest thing ever. Saw it and it became my favorite hands down. Even went on location and set to meet the crew.

Strangely, the Bird of Prey gave off distortions, visible from a few hundred kilometers away, when the cloaking device had full power, and a skilled operator. But now, with power failing, and a Federation crew, it is completely invisible in a park.

This is unironically my favorite Star Trek movie.

The humour you get from the original cast and especially in IV, is something that i’ll always find lacking in subsequent generations of series and films.

the movie that got me into star trek

Holy that was a lot of fun!! Thanks fellas!! Streamed on Xbox with Microsoft headphones connected to iPhone. Can’t wait for more!!!!

They hadn't officially announced TNG yet. I went to a con shortly after the movie, and Majel was talking about there being a plan for it. But the full pitch was not there yet. (But it wouldn't have been long after.)

It's a solid continuation of the story. I tend to look at Star Trek V as a brief sojurn, a 'typical adventure of the Enterprise' if you will, before Star Trek VI picks up from where Voyage Home left off. In that way, Star Trek V acts as a kind of stopgap, if you will, rather than seeming out of place. In hindsight the Star Trek movies are weird. The Original Series TV show was very episodic, but gets a bunch of movies that tell an unfolding story arc, one atop the next. The Next Generation got the exact opposite: one of the strengths of the TV show was that it actually had some neat story arcs that unfolded across the 7 seasons, particularly as far as Worf was concerned but also other characters, there's about a half dozen definite arcs that branch across the show, recurring characters who come back to tell a little bit more story, so despite it's rep TNG was actually quite a story driven show.... but when they got to the movies, they got four standalone episodic adventures. Very bizarre.

My favorite trek movie as a kid

Really enjoying this series. My two favourite KZfaqrs watching Classic Trek and enjoying it. A great fun addition to the classic movies. Some great moments and dialogue. Seeing the new Enterprise reveal at the end always gives me goosebumps. Love that scene😎🖖

Fish out of water stories were very popular in the 1980s . Like Balky from Perfect Strangers or Paul hogan of crocodile Dundee fame . It was a genius idea after the heaviness and grief of the previous films to do one of the finest Star Trek comedies ever . Star Trek is one of my favorite science fiction . Being a former 1980s kid was amazing to grow up with so Many great films .

A man from Wales to watch some whales.

This movie is the earliest theater experience I remember. I think I was about 4.

My absolute fav. :)