Lol "joined the chat" "left the chat" gives me flash backs xD

I like Star Track respect from Serbija

lmfao

I think THIS movie is just AWESOME! . .. and always have! And I suspect that those who've called it "slow" or "booring" were probably just the kind of t@@ls who crave ohhhhh guns, car chases, and explosions every minute throughout the entire duration of a movie. In fact, such people are the reasons we have all these big, dumb, action "blockbusters" with goons like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Schwarzenegar and so on.

When other ships are able to reach it, they don't make Star Trek movies about it.

Other ships know the Enterprise crew have a death wish

Still the most hilarious event was the Enterprise and the Big Black Dick Ship in "Star Trek: Into Darkness" having a space battle in Earth's Atmosphere. Like really where the fuck is everyone else? How are they allowing this to take place? It would be like allowing two Airforce squadrons to have a dogfight over New York.

Its the Flagship of starfleet. Its only natural to send it to its possible demise.

Well, ignoring the others as someone else's vision (or lack thereof), in this movie, the Enterprise is in the process of being refit at home base, and V'Ger was making a direct beeline to Earth. The novel explains that she was the only Constitution-class ship to return from a five-year-mission relatively intact. And the Connies were Starfleet's workhorses at the time. She was the first to get all the state-of-the-art enhancements, and even though there was no time even for a shakedown cruise, she was the best bet at intercepting the intruder while it was still "out there." Kirk and Spock joining this mission were both happy accidents, which probably made the difference between the Earth being completely sterilized or the disaster being averted. You can build a huge fleet of all kinds of ships, but you don't build them to just hang around Earth; they all have jobs to do. And space is mind-bogglingly big.

it's so funny to imagine Bill Shatner sitting on his iPad and shutting it off in rage after hearing some drunk Wisconsinite say the word "gash"

very ageist and shilling

@@AA-kt6rh shameless shills!

It's a good podcast

@@robthomas946 I have coined a term for them, HACK FRAUDS.

Did he win the Emmy for being a Scottish man as well?

I also hope for that

With age, ugly ducklings grow into beautiful swans. TMP is that duck.

I hope he talks about his spleen, that would be cool.

That would be cool. Very cool.

why, has he done that before?

which inccendtailly is in new jersey

Olexi Petrov Just wanna bring up there is a place called Hell, Michigan, which is probably named such because it’s where RLM is filmed. Probably.

Oooo likes are at 666

Now we just need 40 minutes of Rich and Jack talking about videogame waifus.

Do you think Rich Evans accidentally created Red Letter Media Heaven when he died from the Showbiz Pizza Bear biting his neck off and then had to defeat Satan in order to come back to life? Because I like the idea of Rich Evans accidentally figuratively AND literally becoming a god to the RLM fanbase.

The way Mike's face explodes and deflates after that line is the most sublime reaction caught on camera.

I love the way you can hear Rich cracking up off screen during that part starting with Jim asking if Gene Roddenberry was attractive

Timestamp, please.

@@AidanMclaren Didn't see this until now but it's near the end at 40:55

I like to imagine how much that would have infuriated Shatner, if he had stuck with the video long enough to see that part.

He's spent some quality time with the fat, drunk one who fixes his VCR. He's also an unlicensed proctologist! Who would've known?@nazarene

I found them to be dry, dull and elderly. and awesome. I'm 9 months into the future.

Jim and Mike's Shmaltz Maltz Beer.

I think THIS movie is just FABULOUS! . .. and always have! And I suspect that those who've called it "slow" or "booring" were probably just the kind of m@r@ns who crave ohhhhh guns, car chases, and explosions every minute throughout the entire duration of a movie. In fact, such people are the reasons we have all these big, dumb, action "blockbusters" with goons like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Schwarzenegar and so on.

YES!!! Or, that he thought people would think he's a smart-ass. "I'm an Emmy-nominated artist... I *know* what I'm talking about" He doesn't come across that way at all. I'd love to hear him just review matte paintings.

Agreed.

John T. Campbell Personally id love him to do a top 15 so I could feel ok with buying a matte painting as a poster

I'd prefer to hear about how it is being an Emmy Nominated Canadian Scotsman.

@@Beer_Dad1975 well he IS hanging out and talking with these drunk Wisconsinites. Maybe it’s similar

So dry it should have come with _dipping sauce_

that's why I like to see the lesser RLM-er's in the mix, they all have a different rapport.

@The Duke Even Josh is too cool to watch Star Trek...

@@vladpiranha I believe his said he´s "not touching that".

There's a thing to be said about this specific movie though: It's downright impossible to tell who wrote the movie as it was finally shot - mainly because the movie was still *being* written while it was shot. Yes, the initial story treatment was by Alan Dean Foster, based on an idea by Gene Roddenberry, but it was then re-written into a TV script by Harold Livingston, and when they made it into a movie it was passed back to Gene Roddenberry whose close associates probably also had a hand in it and so on and so on...

I noticed this too. There were loads of things almost mentioned, yet Mike doesn't do it. Like there's no way Mike doesn't know that the probe scene they talk about at length, was filmed in two parts. The left side is one take, then the special effect of the probe in the middle, then the right side is filmed separately. Sometimes when the image moves the two sides don't match up. I think he's purposely holding back his true Trek power level here to let Jim have his say. When talking about the sexuality of the film, he'll know about the novelisation Roddenberry wrote. The one with the sex rooms and the Enterprise is like one big hippie free sex commune. Kirk's mother had a love instructor or how the Deltans mindwaves make people want to fuck them all the time. That's why ilia has a bald head, to make herself look less sexy.

McShave tell me more about this love instructor and this hippie free love sex commune.

@@ohmandamp Kirk's mother's love instructor's name was "James"! Make of that what you will. Also Kirk has tried sex with men but prefers "the creature known as woman". Gene was kind of obsessed with sex.

@@McShave This is fascinating. What's the source again?

7:55

20:52

32:48

40:53

Mike is peaking

This is what peak Mike looks like.

But he is, what, like 80. Peaking at 80 is pretty good I'd say

sounds like my life

Little did he know about Star Trek Picard and how truly awful things could get.

Which means, stop pointing out when I’m obviously wrong. 🧐

With all due respect, I disagree with your father, sir/ma'am.

I think THIS movie is just FABULOUS! . .. and always have! And I suspect that those who've called it "slow" or "booring" were probably just the kind of m@r@ns who crave ohhhhh guns, car chases, and explosions every minute throughout the entire duration of a movie. In fact, such people are the reasons we have all these big, dumb, action "blockbusters" with goons like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Schwarzenegar and so on.

Mike isn't a boomer is he? He's no more than 40 :O

@@mc00094 Firmly Gen X. Millennials think it’s just them and Boomers on the planet.

@@mc00094 Millennials have no idea what age group baby boomers are.

*After watching this video in its entirety I found RedLetterMedia's video, discussing the social media kerfuffle that had occurred between internet fans of their show and Mr. William Shatner. And now I am back to witness the first 60 seconds, that which Mr. Shatner judged them by, and laugh.* And then I am going to watch the rest of this review, because it is GOOD.

@@tolispoulos5398 They have all the information in the universe at their fingertips, and yet they don't really know much at all lol

Mike likes Star Trek so much that I ended watching TOS too see what he likes so much, currently I am watching s01e15

It reminds me of that "Star Trek" episode where that guy wore the Star Trek insignia on his shirt.

i started watching TNG since it's on netflix. I think i'm on season 3. I was gonna give the original series a once through some time soon. I never new picard was such an asshole. He fucking HATES wesley

Buddy... I'd tell you.

@@rippspeck You can save yourself 150 hours of awful by skipping Voyager. DS9 is the best trek but of 150 episodes, only 80 are good or so. Curate your list. Next Gen has maybe 20 good episodes, but the rest are watchable just because the series has the rep it does. Skip S3 of TOS, it's all got this 'fan fic' vibe, but S1 and S2 are all legit.

**Superman flies through 5 buildings, killing a bunch of people to stop Mike from terraforming Re:View**

Mega Man X Powered Up **doesn’t smash through ihop to preserve product placement**

@@xcellnt yep

Because Rich's laugh is life

Richs laugh can heal cancer

i can hear him from my house

His ghostly, diabetes-ridden presence haunts us to this day

That's not Rich! It's Colin!

And AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

very cool.

Do you mean TNG episode 2x17 "Samaritan Snare"? That was Pakled, not Rich Evans.

I thought it was kind of a copout when Rich Evans (as himself) appeared on Voyager and instantly teleported the ship into a tums festival, also resurrecting the true Kim.

Haha YES

A couple minutes in they start talking about kirks gorilla arms

Thank God Shatner didn't watch that bit.

That part was great.

I always thought that outfit looked like a cast-off from the set of Logan's Run.

*Precisely*

"wampire"

Chuckle? I nearly peed my pants!

TOS, TNG, and Voyager just for shits and giggles

I want them to force Jay to watch a couple of TNG episodes and then discuss them for real.

Honestly if he reviewed every season of Star Trek I'd love to watch it.

I was really hoping they'd do a DS9 re:view for the 25th anniversary, but it probably won't happen.

Mike needs to talk about that episode where Janeway and Tom Paris turn into lizards and have kids. Yes, that happened.

I would like an Enterprise retrosepective.

So true and so depressing.

So there'll never be another slow, cerebral sci-fi movie?

@@andrewbaumann2661 correct

Hello! Interstellar (2014)! It doesn't get more dragged out and head clawing than that.

Bah go listen to vaughn heppners lost starship books they are here on you tube. Dude sort of channels star trek. House of Suns and the Revelation space series by Alystar Reynolds comes to mind as well though they are kinda grim dark.

Instant like.

"She's into artifacts that's why she liked him." :D

S

*She's got it moist in all the right spots!* (Falling slide whistle)

Little did we know this would enact the war between Shatner and Mike

Holy shit! I KNEW I recognized that!

What the hell is that?

Alpha Probe it was called. Got one Xmas 1980 coz my folks couldn't afford a Millennium Falcon.

At first I thought you meant Jim _Kirk,_ and I still agreed about his shirt being great.

It's a rare thing when an actor is so beloved they give him a honor called "Talk Like William Shatner Day"

He's a legend. I follow him on Twitter. Lol

Shatter and Stallone, both fall into that category. They’re genuine acting chops are overlooked. How can you not get choked up when Kirk gives Spock’s eulogy??

I think Shatner is as good as the director he's working with. He has huge potential but lacks self control - which is why he's so inconsistent - give him a director who can't manage him properly and you get a hammy over the top performance, give him a director who understands how to direct him, he's capable of brilliance.

@@Beer_Dad1975 Could be. Are you contrasting Wise with another specific director? Season 3 of TOS had pulpier scripts as well (wasn't just budget and directing that made it different but the whole IDIC tangle of a production heading for cancellation).

Yesss!!!

Tbh he sorta does in TOS as well. When he fights Kirk for that woman Vulcan and he says "you may find that having is not as satisfying as wanting. It is not logical, but it is true"

And I'm so happy that Motion Picture is Mike's favorite Star Trek Movie along with Voyage Home. If only him and Rich were TOS fans.

When Roberto Orci was interviewed on the Mission Log podcast they asked him about that moment and he literally didn't even realize that's what was happening in the original Wrath of Khan scene. He put that reference in Into Darkness without even understanding what it was about in the original movie, like it was just there as a meme reference. Just like the stuff with Kirk being a lady's man who's always banging green chicks, it's referencing pop culture's idea of Star Trek rather than Trek itself.

@@AndorianBlues I can't even pretend to be surprised anymore.

I'm not saying you blew my mind but uh... you've certainly made me re-evaluate the movie (that scene in particular.)

Please. Kirk was just pissed.

@@dragonknightleader1 Comics who do Shatner impressions are really just imitating Kevin Pollack's Shatner impression.

Did you watch the 2016 film Arrival?

These are exactly the the tree movies I thought of reading the OP comment. But that it. Are there others?

Contact

It's a fair comment; the examples people bring up are rare exceptions...

Shin Godzilla does unknowable horror really well.

Holy fuck. I was at that VERY part when they were discussing this. I love Star Trek

@Peter Larsen I wouldn't underestimate Doug Trumbull like that

after years of listening to Mike talk about ST, I finally watched TOS, TAS, Motion Picture, and the Wrath of Khan, and ST is really worth it man. Of course most people say TNG is the best, I'll get there eventually but there's so much ST! Either way though it's really great

@@silverschannel8578 TNG had a writers strike happen at the start of season 2. Season 1 had a bunch of clunker episodes where we were being shown the new universe or new characters. It finds its footing mid season 2 and season 3 thru 5 are some of the best sci fi ever out on tv.

warren rudolph ah ive finished TNG and DS9 now, TNG is amazing. DS9 is very well done although not my cup of tea. I liked VOY until Tuvix and havent picked it back up since, but maybe in the future

@@silverschannel8578 Voyager had so much potential and was such a wasted opportunity for quality sci fi and character growth so seperated from the Federation. They had good episodes but never took them as far as they could. There was too.much restring of the show from episode to episode since DS9 did the multi episode arc and they wanted to be able to syndicate Voy without having to play em in order. But Voyager should have had massive power and repair and food issues as they got further removed from Starfleet specs to season 3 no starbases to fix or reaupply.

absolutely give them a chance. they're so good. I still prefer TOS, I feel like TNG got a little too up its own butt sometimes for me (I love pulpy/campy sci-fi) but they're both great, well past what the 21st-century trek attempts would lead anyone to believe

That scene disturbed me so much as a child

Too high brow

Shhh , id rather this channel stay in the down low.

I don't know, man, I'm wet every time I see Rich.

They have a lot more subscribers than any other channel about fat old men from Wisconsin talking movies

I don't know why either! I mean, THE SPECIAL EFFECTS ARE AMAZING!!

and the way they hoke and mock the crew mates and dismiss their death I was like omg????

That scene traumatized me as a kid, their screams.... oof. and then the following line "What we got through didn't live long.... fortunately."

Dude I totally forgot about that f'd up ass scene, terrified me as a kid

Nightmare fuel

@@madisonl6321did they joke about it? I didn’t notice

"A marshmelon" -Spock 2289

Funniest two lines; the Gene Roddenberry looking like a sack of oatmeal with eyebrows line had me in stitches.

we have truly transcended

They've gone through orifice and were reborn into the next state of movie reviewing. They are the review. The reviewering. The rereviewering...

@@tadzeohorner-chbib4765 Man, time is just a flat circle, man...

Reminds me of this one star trek episode when...

N Fink Rich said fuck that

I actually spat out my drink. Thanks.

Only genuinely funny joke in this whole comment section. 10/10

Nomad

You win the internet.

Yeah, that one got me as well!

Yeah, that one was terrifying - especially when Kirk contacts the station and they just coldly reply: "What we got back didn't live long. Fortunately..." Makes me feel that this *unseen* sort of body horror is way creepier than all the twisted and mutilated rubber corpses we get to see on _Discovery_ nowadays.

Weaponsandstuff93 still can not use the transporter to this day!

"But the animal is inside out. And it exploded." - Teb, Galaxy Quest

yes yes , real horror. Truely hardcore. They would never do this today and drop that line afterwards

THIS. Seriously, one of the best movie scores ever composed. The complete recording released on CD a few years back is well worth owning.

It's a very acquired taste, and even then it's not one of my favourites. It came out at a time when Star Wars was all the rage and was being aped off by other sci-fi films and TV shows. TMP was clearly produced with 2001 in mind, and while the visuals are beautiful with an identifiable theme, it was never going to hold up to the former. I'd also argue that where the new Trek films sharply contrast with the TV series in one extreme, this goes in the opposite direction. It's really a meandering journey in to the heart of a titanic cloud entity, and whilst I enjoy it personally I can see why that would bore a lot of people as it did (and still sometimes does) me.

@@ThreadBomb yes hard to believe that us 80s kids had the attention span of gerbils but it's pretty much true

I really like it. 👍👍

I really appreciated this re:. As someone who actually attended the original release, I can tell you that even though my father and I had to wait in the freezing cold for over 2 hours in line to see it, we both felt it was well worth it. Maybe it was all the ST fans who were out that night, but there was a huge cheer when Kirk first appears stepping off the shuttle. It had definite flaws, but I also think it was the right movie at the right time.

There are two cuts?

AMEN!!!! Galaxy or bust!!

Well, if we ever get that new Patrick Stewart Trek series, at least we'll get dry and very elderly.

This is future. We did not get Star Trek Galaxy.

@@sarcasticdude2320 I'm happy enough with Picard S3.

@@icemachine79 season 3 was pretty good. But 1 and 2 where

That movie was my very first Star Trek. I watched it whenever possible as a kid, which was aided by it being shown on television and us having a VCR and enough fresh tapes so I could get a copy of it. Mind you, I was watching this when I was in primary school, and we had the first two Star Wars movie on tape as well. I loved ALL of them. Star Wars was exciting because it combined several genres into a sci-fi movie about good and bad. But Star Trek just resonated. Never thought it boring. That first scene with the Enterprise just blew me away. Still does, but for different reasons.

Yeah almost reminds of Blade Runner in a way, they don't make movies at these kind of paces much anymore :(

I had a friend who fell asleep during the glamour shot of the Enterprise and didn't wake up until the very end, when Sulu asked "Where to, sir?" My friend woke up and shouted "OUT THERE!" right along with Shatner.... True story.

This has been one of my comfort movies for decades. Every clip they show of Abrams Trek is like a frigging nightmare.

I think THIS movie is just FABULOUS! . .. and always have! And I suspect that those who've called it "slow" or "booring" were probably just the kind of m@r@ns who crave ohhhhh guns, car chases, and explosions every minute throughout the entire duration of a movie. In fact, such people are the reasons we have all these big, dumb, action "blockbusters" with goons like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Schwarzenegar and so on.

RIP Mike Ulysses Stoklasa(1958-2018) Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most pakled.

Rich gave him AIDS and Mike does not have diabetus to balance it like Rich does.

It's the right combination of intelligent, pretty, slow and boring.

tanookigt yes! I remember being surprised when I actually found out people hate this movie. It’s the first Star Trek movie I ever bought on dvd also.

I saw it in the theater and loved it ever since.

Its he best Star Trek film because it is a STARTREK film.

But they actually fixed the movie in the Director's Cut, so we don't have to worry about those pacing issues anymore with the endless reaction shots. There are even some new scenes from the longer TV cut where things actually happen. The DVD quality is a small price to pay.

Really? What for?

@@Davidsworldtravels Vikings - Outstanding Special Visual Effects In A Supporting Role - 2020

Is "it oozes sexuality" replacing "it broke new ground"? Very cool.

Come again?

@@capitancoolo1 this review is borderline experimental

capitancoolo1 Very cool...

@@kylehyde215CA Its so dense... with SEX! You could make it a drinking game to cope with slow parts!!

And cunts.

Hahahaaa...made my day :-D !

And Mike didn't ask why everything since Black Album sucks. ;(

I first saw this when I was 10 maybe a month after TNG first aired. I had watched TOS since I was like 5 and had already seen 3 and 4.. TMP was so weird.. like a fever dream. I did respect it as being closer in spirit to TOS than the following movies. Also my mind was blown when I heard the “TNG” Theme music.

"Kirk Unit, why will you not give V'ger the information?"... one of my favourite ST characters is Lt. Ilia. "My oath of celibacy is on record, captain."

"Booring"? .. . depends WHAT you consider EXCITING in the first place. Now personally I happen to find ohhhh guns, stunts, car chases, crashes, and explosions pretty dull myself, so I don't miss THAT shit one bit when watching THIS film.

I was wondering about that.

I think the second one was a sequence of random bleeps.

To be fair, just before they gush over him, Mike does say "Let's talk about how fat William Shatner is". WE know the RLM guys are just joking around, but for someone who doesn't know them, I can see why Shatner wouldn't bother.

@@bittrippn6570 Alan Bennett remarked once that however much praise you lavish on them actors will only remember your one teeny, tiny criticism.

Absolutely well said

Kelly and Nimoy had been ill before they made this movie .

The satisfying thing about TMP is it gives us the reunion that Trekkies had been waiting 10 years to see, but does it with the subtlety of old friends awkwardly reuniting. That's how Star Wars could've/should've done it too, nobody necessarily wants to have seen Leia/Luke/Han acting like they just stepped out of Return of the Jedi, it's decades later and we expect our characters to have changed just as Kirk/Spock/McCoy have here, but over the course of the movie we see them coming together and the bond between them being strengthened. By the final scenes Spock and Bones are back to riffing on each other and Kirk is excited about the next chapter. Its a great, satisfying arc even just within the continuity of this one movie. There is absolutely no reason the Star Wars sequels couldn't have pulled it off too.

@@lancebaylis3169 Yes, exactly.

When Spock says that line they do a cutaway to Uhura and she reacts like, “WTF?”

Andy W and then the line about what was transported, didn’t live very long... yes that scene really is a horror scene

-tAz- they talk about how a lot of the ship was untested

Yeah it's all Kirk's fault for rushing the ship out of drydock before it's shake down cruise. They thankfully learned from this in ST V and took the shuttle everywhere instead lol

And ST:TMP was rated *G* in theaters in 1979. This was the glorious 70s, when you could put body horror in your movie and get a G rating and throw in a topless lady and get only a PG (Logan's Run, Airplane!).

Pretty sure the shriek came from the malformed person. Oh, and it gets WORSE: There is actually a still from this film of the actors standing on the pad before the effects were added, with looks of agony and horror on their faces. Looks like they moved and writhed, as if they were in pain. Its one hell of a creepy image. Also, those lines: "Oh no, they're forming!" - Janice Rand and "Enterprise, what we got back, didnt live very long.. fortunately." - Starfleet Transporter Tech yeesh.

source please

@@ThePandoraGuy It takes that long for Kirk to fly out of the airlock with the really bad thruster suit and the incomplete FX and the wire rig getting hung up in the rafters.

@@antduude Ahh, interesting. Thank you.

Troy Tempest WASP That’s not much of an exaggeration.

The Slow Motion Picture

That and the guy in the space suit desperately trying to get away from the disintegrating space station.

in both cases it's the utter silence just after the moment of death - for both ships and people. No grand explosion, just vanishing and silence.

The transporter accident victims' screams really got to me, helping to remind me of the poor ape that Brundle experimented on with his similar device in The Fly, getting turned inside-out...

I never thought of it until the ambassador of Star Trek brought this up.

Yup its hard to argue with the evidence lol

Meh mystery maybe. Horror is a bit of a stretch. Strung together clips ripped out of context doesn’t dictate the theme for the entire series.

100% my reaction

it's cosmic horror, y'all. existential terror. served on a paper plate maybe, but consider the era... post twilight zone.