You either die a hero...

Or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

I watched all of the seasons with Eccleston, Tenant, and Smith, and loved every minute. Do you think it's still possible to save the franchise?

@@someguyontheinternet2399 or live long enough to put something in ur butt

@@HAL-9OOO With a change of hands anything is possible

Dr what the f is going on?

This comment from this username handle killed me 😂

BAZINGUS

It's gone from Time Lord to Gay Lord.

Doctor Why Bother

haha

Lollll

your fascism is all fascisty and stuff

It's a bold strategy. Let's see if it pays off for them.

😂😂😂😂❤

Just being "gay" isn't progressive enough anways these days.

Acronym politics. Someone tells you they're gay, they're just telling you something about themselves. Someone begins a sentence with "As a LGBTQIIAMXYZPTLK...," you are about to hear the shittiest take you ever heard in your life.

as a gay guy, you're 100% correct

Queer is an insult, so anyone proudly saying they are queer as if it's something they like to be called, it's generally a sign that they just want attention. Not least when there are all these straight people claiming they are queer and they somehow deserve special attention for being queer. Anyone heard of demisexual, where someone is queer because they need to care about someone in order to sleep with them, y'know like an average person....

I'm somewhat annoyed by "queer", something my generation, and the one before, worked to take back just by using it, has been hijacked. Half of "queers" aren't even homosexual, ffs. You need at least an attraction to your own sex, to be "queer". Now it just means straight people with pretensions. Stupid teenagers. "Influencers". People who wish they were gay, cos they think it would make them cool, but sadly can't get past the actual sex with your own sex thing. They don't realise that being gay is not what makes a gay person cool. It can't be appropriated! Yeah a bunch of straight kids mincing around, it's bloody embarassing and an attack on actual gay people. Gay is an attraction. Your own sex, or both, is fine. It's worse than when David Bowie started and everyone pretended they were bi. Really I used to be proudly queer. I used to dye my hair blue cos I liked it, thought it was a bit punky. I can't do either now, people will think I'm some dreadful idiot, looking like a parrot and spouting buzzwords with as much awareness of what I'm doing.

Well this is the natural trajectory that all thinking people predicted. Brace yourself for full pedo- reps. Then the gig is completely up.

As a bisexual man I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's embarrassing and does not represent me.

Nothing to do with gay/lesbian/trans. They have no mandate from gay people to do this vandalism. It is all about destruction of cultural iconography. If it was an iconic male, make it a female. If it's a white female, race swap. If it's a strong female from history, say she was a trans man.

It's great that you speak up against it. We need more people from your "community" to do so. I would find it completely disrespectful to be "represented" in all of these garbage productions. It's almost like they are saying you don't deserve better or gay people cannot have taste. We all deserve quality and nobody should be misused as a shield to protect crap.

It's because it's pandering, which is degrading. They act like you weren't seen before and that they're the reason for your existence. It's all ego on their part and most people in the LGBTQ+ groups are sick of this. In fact, I rarely find anyone who's trans or gay or lesbian that tolerates this. The only ones that do are the self-proclaimed Bisexuals, but the vast majority of them are just straight people who say "I'm attracted to the same gender" for attention and to feel included with their LGBTQ+ friends. The tide is turning, and the Far Left is panicking.

If only we could find large audiences enjoying it it would make some sense, in this case girls arent really enjoying the G.I joes having tea, at most they have a knee jerk reaction to call those who complain, bigots and only because it makes them look good tp their peers

That unironically would be a better story than what we have now.

Perfect allegory

Thing is, a little girl trying to annoy her brother would be trying to make a good tea party... right? (Nope, it's about the harm not doing anything well.)

An excellent summary of the BBC in general.

Unfortunately, these people were emboldened by the Star Wars Sequel debacle. TLJ was a hodge podge movie that made it an eldritch abomination. It literally went nowhere. It was the director throwing a fit and trashing a movie, only it got a ton of defenders. It greatly emboldened these absolute dumpster fire ideas. TLJ could have been a good movie, there were definitely elements, but those were trashed to be a giant middle finger to the fans that watched it. Rian Johnson, the director, was quoted saying that he "didn't care that he was making a sequel movie, or that it was a Star Wars movie." He wanted to make "his movie" and a bunch of morons online defended it. This is the result.

DrWho fandom has been like The Ambiguously Gay Duo since 1980 where just one villain has to say to the other villains, "You don't see it?"

@@jamesof7seven Lol...well said.

Sad but true

FACT

My Doctor was Ten as well. And as far as I'm concerned, it ended with End of Time, one last glorious exit from the Time Lord. And that's enough for me. Granted 11 and 12 were good they just had abysmal writing.

My Doctor was Ten as well. And as far as I'm concerned, it ended with End of Time, one last glorious exit from the Time Lord. And that's enough for me. Granted 11 and 12 were good they just had abysmal writing.

Ironically enough, Pertwee did drag on Doctor Who first, and he did it better.

I’m not a Dr. Who fan, but this comment is literally saddening. 😔 Only cause my own father loved to share the things he enjoyed growing up… I can’t imagine having a franchise so backwards and mismanaged, it’d be harmful to show the youth. But it’s literally now come to that.

Hey, don't throw it all away. Let the grandkids watch the older stuff and do what I did with Indiana Jones and deny the existence of anything after Last Crusade. Which for DW I'd say ends with Tennant. You *could* go all the way up to Capaldi, but Smith's run gets confusing and Capaldi's companions are obnoxious.

Love this

Beautiful (from an Autist)

DEI - unoriginal comment

DEI = Degenerate Equatorial Inhumane.

DEI - Don't Encourage Idiots.

Jennifer Gao, the She Hulk show runner who intentionally made the show bad in order to troll fans, is jealous

@@MrJeffcoley1 In an ideal world they could hi5 each other in the job center but since we're still living in clown world I'm sure they'll both get handed new franchises to destroy.

...Let's see if it pays off 🙈

@@st0nedpenguin That happens to people in other studios for sure, like the guy who wrote Morbius somehow still getting work, but I can't see any of the operators in the Disney bad projects getting any more work. Disney seems pissed with those people and the execs who chose to hire them.

"Dr. Who was not made for straight white men." Correct, when I was a kid and watched it in the 60's/70's it was known as a KIDS show not a show for men... straight, white or otherwise.

Quite poetic really

He buried the Doctor with the assistance of the Disney megacorp.

Russel coming back gave me hope that the show could get back to some of that real quality it had in the mid-late 2000s and early 2010s. Instead, we were subjected to the worst the show has had to offer so far. I actually think I owe Chris Chibnall an apology for how abysmal this season already looks even compared to his dismal run.

Nearly 20 years. People change.

Well it died with chin chinballs and the last "doctor".

They’ve alienated most of that 2% too. I’m watching it to see how bad it gets.

You just don't get it. This show wasn't made for YOU. But you're also a bigot if you don't watch it and love it. 😂 (obviously joking)

I'm sorry heterosexual white men but this show was never made for you🥰

​@@peteyoung3124Hey guys, I found the mouth-breather!!!

You’re assuming gays support this cringe messaging. Not all do (many have better taste) so the ratio may be closer to 1/99.

The Ecclestone/Tennant era was some of the best written television ever made. So he's not a hack. It's a combination of free reign and the age we now live in where everything has to be political.

He's also older and more out of touch. To me it reads as that Steve Buscemi "hey kids" meme. The queer kids aren't watching Dr. Who. They are watching Sex ed and Heartstopper and anime. This has no on the ground buzz.

​@@BraveInstancehe has talent but in most cases Talent works best under some kind of boundary pressure. A pop culture show that you only appeal to a portion of your current audience won't be good. But it doesn't have the basic nuts and bolts structure problems that She Hulk did.

@BraveInstance 😆 "best written stuff" 😆 you need to get out more if you believe that

If you look at the writers of the Eccleston and Tennant era, a lot of the main writers were older gentleman with a large body of work, and pride in what they did. The best stuff on those eras were written by Moffat. I imagine RTD didn't feel comfortable asking these men to have The Doctor prance around in a skirt, go to a club, and talk about getting snowmanned. Maybe he did ask, and they told him to stuff it. RTD is the sole writing credit for all episodes this season, save one, which lists one writer without any other writing credits, and another that wrote a couple shorts. This is why his revolutionary vision has been realised.

Nice try. Dr Who sucks all on its own. Disney became streaming partner in October 2022. Dr Who was in full suck mode by then.

Yep Doctor Who was already in a downward spiral, thanks to the BBC & Chibnall's run. But instead of admitting failure & canceling Doctor Who, BBC somehow convinced Disney to throw some money at them to keep the trainwreck going & stream it on Disney+.

disney doesnt have anything to do with doctor who

@@helixxia9320 .... Yes they do, Davis admitted in an interview that he has creative control but Disney can run ideas by him for the show if they want, so what's the chance Disney runs an idea to Davis that he wouldn't agree to 🤔

Its actually very impressive in a way.

You apologize to Bette Midler right now. She doesn't deserve that.

@@thelaughingrouge Yes she does if you have heard anything she said in public in the last 20 yrs.

@@hedge685I’m out of the loop, what’s she been saying?

@@hedge685I’m out of the loop, what’s she been saying?

Yah i did too lol! 🧹

I mean if you want to get technical The Doctor died to the crack in amy pond's wall, after that he's just been Amy's idea of The Doctor.

No. It ended with Smith. 12th regeneration. 12 is all you get. And that was enough. I stopped at Smith. It was the logical point. I have nothing but fond memories of Dr. Who.

At some point in the future, a new show runner will open with Peter Capaldi’s regeneration scene and completely retcon everything that came after

More like nightmares

Clara was the last good companion and Dr Who entered its spiral after she left

That's funny

This comment is so confusing and ironic.

activist

@@skyhunter2816 No, not really.

It happened with Nat Turner in the 80's and now Russ Gaivies.

I vowed back then that I would stop watching DW when Capaldi left and boy am I glad I did!

Hiring fans won't work cause they'll just do what Rings of Power did - trot out more woke "oh, definitely lifelong fans" to give it false legitimacy

Christopher Eccleston hates you lot actually. Listen to literally anything else he says.

I knew my fave of the New Whos was based. 👍

I got to see now what Ecclestone Said....

I thought Eccleston was angry at the BBC 1st for wanting him to do something he didn't want to do, and the BBC higher ups, angry about it went to Davis & told him to replace him after the 1st season concludes. Than Eccleston got angry w/ Davis after for not sticking up for him & agreeing just to replace him like it was no big deal!

It's Dr THEM! Ugh, the state of humanity.

Dr Who Cares.

It's more like Doctor WTF...

If they are calling this stuff "Dr Who", then I will declare that Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure trilogy as the lost season of Dr Who, and George Carlin is the best to play the role, using the doctor's little known real first name, Rufus. Ok, an American phone booth with a broken umbrella strapped to it is not a police call box, but come on.... what is this stuff the BBC is putting out?

Nurse What?

I still claim doctor who died during the last season of Matt Smith, but I think I'm in the minority, and that's ok.

​@@calebharch7229 - Even some of the Smith seasons had cringeworthy series arcs, so my take is that this is a case of slow decline, not some magic point of falling off a cliff. The first few seasons were much more fun than what it eventually became, even before all the hot-button stuff. Without watching it, I can't judge how terrible the new stuff is, but I've seen enough of the last decade plus to know I'm not interested in watching it.

That's just what I was thinking; maybe them wanting to exterminate us was the only justifiable necessary evil.

The TARDIS was mistranslating exterminate this whole time. They were actually saying "liberate".

QFTW

"EXTERMINATE... the 14th series! Also the rest of the universe, but we can negotiate on that, I suppose."

Don't say that. Next you know, they're gonna be telling you the Daleks are actually misunderstood genderfluid progressives who collectively had an abusive childhood. Well, alright, the last one I could believe.

Its kinda better this way, makes it easier to ignore.

They can't, they can only see activism, if you don't like what they like it's because you are also an activist but for the "enemy" side, it's like a form of autism

Ah! But there do exist many people with little taste and an identity centred around their ideology that demands they only see things as groups. I just don't think those people watch a lot of shows to begin with.

I know people who eat this stuff up. One said it’s a “important message” in our society and they can’t get enough of it. I just want them to admit it’s everywhere and it’s gotten overbearing.

​@@Fibonaccisghostthey love the noise but aren't watching the shows, movies, or reading the books comics or playing the game's the ppl you talk about just like the attention from the noise not the subject 😒

Nice. Sounds like something Giraldo would have said on a roast.

I'm sure closer to the election it'll be licking the neck stump of something..

Ha ha ha ha

Bettee Midler in hocus pocus

OMFG now I can't unsee that !! hahahaha i find myself looking for trumps head!!!!

Yep. This is a great example. Make your story compelling and your acting and characters good, and no one will care what your characters are.

Capt Jack was also overtly sexual but it was done in a way that was fun to watch not pornographic. Everyone I know loved him. The character was so much fun and the actor was charismatic. This new Dr just doesn't have the same ability.

That's because neither the show TORCHWOOD nor the characters in it were created intentionally out of spite. Shad and Drinker NAILED the motivation behind what we're all now being subjected to.

Jack was pan, and people found it hilarious because it was never treated like it was weird or taboo, just a part of who he was and his incorrigible flirting was just played for laughs.

remember we had jack rose and mickey 3 "diverse" ppl by today standards and they were all amazing because they focused on writing first

"He would see the world burn if he could be king of the ashes." - Varys

💯 totally accurate perception

Its out of control vomit and hatred I agree with The Drinker

Have you considered that the *goal* is sinking the ship, and the ship in question is western civilization? And that theyve been successful so far because everyone is either too niave or too cowardly to do anything about it.

The doctor went from a wandering traveler who got caught up in events. To an ultra demi god who couldn't lose any battle. Yes, the 7th doctor ran around with plots and plans. But that was his personality as his regeneration settled in.

@@bri55118 This ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Finally someone said it! I liked him better as a traveler who happened upon things in the OG era.

That is exactly the problem, the Doctor became less and less mysterious, and more just a time and space celebrity

@@stuartbrown8309 Well it is another example of modern feminism and gay influencing culture. The Doctor had to be the bestest evah and the centre of attention. You over power a character and you leave writers no room. And we see it everywhere. For example, imagine if JJ Abrhams' Star Trek films were about Lieutenant Kirk (and he had kept to canon.) How much better would the films have been? Yet he goes from conscript to captain in a few reels completely destroying the plot........

Doctor "Who the f!@$ greenlit this???"

The TARDIS is now a but plug, bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.

At least Rocky Horror had good music and was entertaining (strangely)

It does even come close to Rocky.

This isn't even the BBC this is Disney

That's a huge insult to The Rocky Horror Picture Show...

Not even vaguely

Frankly, I don't understand what Russell's 'gotcha' moment is supposed to be here. You're injecting garbage into a show that damn near nobody is watching, but still wanna act like there's a demand for it somewhere. In a few months time, weeks even. Nobody is going to remember this trash heap. Just more rubbish to add to the pile. RTD and company don't get it and probably never will. This shit doesn't sell. Plain and simple. In an age where people have multiple outlets for free content and alternatives. Nobody, especially now, has to tough out the crap RTD pushes out.

@@frug5629 He's injecting garbage into a show ...

Not an excuse at all

12:40

@@randomdude189 I don't know jack about the film industry, but are the BBC just forced to accept whatever these 3rd party companies come up with? Aren't the BBC the customer in this situation, and can therefore just take their money elsewhere?

​@@radnedge1983Exactly. A fuck ton of TV programmes are outsourced, does not mean the BBC loses control, if anything people who are on a contract may be more biddable than BBC employees who feel/are unfireable *cough*Lineker*.

Nope. They are scum, and would be doing this even without Disney

RTD and people like him just go to prove why maybe suppressing those things was a GOOD thing for society to do.

Unintentionally pushing the pendulum even higher for it to swing back and crush all the people growing up like he did.

But so many gays aren't like that. Are we to believe there are two species of gay? I don't buy it. These are a "doable barker" stalking maps passing themselves off as gay or drag...

No, Russel used to write good stuff! As to him hiding his sexuality, that's purely speculation on your part, you can't "likely" him. It wasn't the 1950s. The shame is, he seems to hang around with a bunch of idiots and his brain has dried up like a prune. Now all that's left is buzzwords and lame fucking jokes about non fucking binaries! Theres no such thing, Russel! Nobody cares about anyone's "gender identity", but when it comes to which sport you compete in, we need to know what you actually are.

@@samaritan_sys No, it wasn't a good thing, that's a stupid thing to say. The shit Russel is coming out with has little to do with actual homosexuality, it's all about very recent political movements and the cultish nonsense they think they can talk us into. It actually came from "transgender" people, mostly. I won't go on about their agenda right now. Plenty of gay people, and particularly lesbians, have had enough. To the point that they formed the "LGB Alliance", an evil transphobic movement that keeps the corpse of Hitler in a freezer and goes round being big homosexual meanies to innocent transgenders, for no reason at all. But the point is, the LGB Alliance exist, this shit has nothing to do with gay people, so it would be nice if you'd quit that shit, please. A gracious person might even apologise.

I thought it meant the Master identified as Italian...

Inclusion is a scam. In reality it's a takeover.

And even more important to them is telling us who they're excluding

The pride flag is the biggest load of BS. It means nothing, because it is trying to mean everything. And Pride month is the biggest and easiest load of corporate virtue signalling. Were these companies flying the Pride flag years ago when it would actually have made a difference and meant something? Course not. Will they fly the flag in a country now where it is dangerous to be gay? Nope.

Now it's trying to be more inclusive by excluding its original audience.

They have turn it into a religion, also those shitty triangles are more of an anglo (and probably french) thing, like adding BLM colors? Really? Those idiots think USA and UK are the entire world. And trans are more importan than lgb and the others?

Yip

💯

How do you know that?

What does it matter? When the pendulum swings back and these people are disappeared, who's going to care about any eggs that got cracked in the missing 1% of the population?

Reality is pretty much the exact opposite of what that It said in the quote.

I mean, the BBC surely saw this coming, so... I can only conclude that this is their intention.

The BBC didn't do anything like that.

They already gave a blank cheque to Chibnell to do the "Timeless Child". He already set the franchise on fire at this point RTD is just faning the flames.

Even if you deem it family friendly, your kids have to want to watch it. Mine don't.

Late thirties to early fifties single female slash fic fans, that’s who this is for

@@Ou_phrontis Nope. They are busy watching Heartstopper and reading erotica. The only people watching this are Dr. Who fans who are lingering in pain...

Women. I've never watched the show so I may be completely off with my opinion but I always thought Doctor Who was watched by women who thought the one actor was good looking and campy soap like stories

They need to indoctrinate your children. If you don't show this to them, they'll find a way to air it in schools.

Don't forget slave!

Yup..I saw a video recently on old computer interfaces (Yeah, I'm great at parties) and the agreed terms for the basic setup has always been master/slave. The content creator just *had* to make a comment on how terrible that was even though it had nothing to do with anything but a data connection. I think looking ahead to where we seem to be going, all these words will be eventually removed from dictionaries..smh

Yes, because hearing the word 'master' will cause women to be dominated. Notice how misandrist ideologies like feminism cause people to become stupid ?

Destroying the ‘patriarchy’ thats part of it and gay everything so its another one of those ‘its all about me and what I want. Russel off the leash!!! Vomit🤮🤮

Well you know... He is a bad guy. And he chose the name explicitly because he intends to enslave the universe.

That's because once gay people didn't make that fact their whole personality and therefore their creativity didn't rely on it either as it was irrelevant to a show being entertaining or not. The current lot are activists, not entertainers. Even the capable ones like Davies would rather play activist than be creative. I can't imagine what they hope to achieve but they're helping to destroy their own industriy and we are happy to look elsewhere for entertainment. At least Netflix has caught on and is offering some.

@@tkps I only watch broadcast T.V. (and only nostalgia stations at that), but I do have the DVD set of the Netflix _He-Man and the Masters of the Universe_ series (NOT the debacle by K. Smith, but the CGI series), and enjoy it immensely. Very refreshingly unwoke, and even though one of the OG characters, Ram Man, was replaced with a scrappy teenage girl, she actually turned out to be my favorite character, with probably the best story arc in the show.

Locusts "creative" is a bit of a reach. They're more like parasites.

"Oh, booooOOOOOooook!"

And John Nathan Turner who was literally r*ping children with his boyfriend in his office when he was producing Dr. Who.

😂😭

Is there a “them” version of maestro? They could at least try to be consistent

@@richtes Maestrx?

The main part of being woke is being ignorant

As an Italian-American, I feel the same way about something like "Maestrx" that Latino folks feel about "Latinx." Please do not drag my ancestors' language into this nonsense 😂

No, in Italian there’s masculine and feminine (rule of thumb: -O/-I is masculine, -A/-E is feminine, singular/plural, although there’s exceptions of course.) And I agree, don’t put -X to make a neutral, we wouldn’t like it…and good luck pronouncing that anyway xD

Yeah just watch his first run again and you'll see it then.

He said the exact same things 20 years ago, but slightly less bitchy.

You're absolutely right. Look at the Captain Jack character. He was disgusting. We shouldn't have put up with it.

If things were better during a time when certain people had to "hide who they were," begs the question if maybe they should go back to hiding it?

what filth and degeneracy?

👍🏾

Me too. There's no other word for such people. 😂

I loved that Drinker video. THAT Teddy beat 😂

I feel sad having to google that episode to remember it. After the google search results I realized it was way after I stopped watching.

Russel is also standing by Timeless Children. My god it's dumb.

​@@KetchupT100you mean stunning and brave?

@@newtpondskipper it is stunning, I'll give you that.

Hi, Bob!

😂😂😂

don't insult Mrs. Slocombe like that ever again.

Honestly, that was the best summing up of the whole RTD situation I have seen! 👍

Little did he know that we could simply change the channel, thus we always had the power to say, “No.’

@@scionofdorn9101 and a lot of people have. The next headlines will read, “Why Are Dr. WHO’s Ratings Down?”