There are only 3 indiana Jones movies.. That's it

Killed Indy’s son, took his wife, and left him with an abusive stepdaughter. Holy shit, the level of character degradation on display here.

I get the feeling that Phoebe Waller-Bridge wrote herself into the movie, giving herself all the best lines. If you watch your favourite movie, and then imagine what it would be like to put yourself INTO the film itself, this is EXACTLY how Phoebe Walker-Bridge approached her role in this film.

For those who don't know. The Greek inventor Archimedes was from Syracuse (Siracusa) on the Island of Sicily. Rome decided they needed to take the city during the Second Punic War. Archimedes, about 75 at the time, is largely credited with the year-long defense of the city by means of his inventions. These included a crane that lifted Roman ships from the water and some type of light magnification using lenses that set Roman ships on fire from a distance. And as cool as all that sounds to maybe see, I still ain't watching this shit.

Lara Croft has been "female Indiana Jones" for 27 years. And it's one of the best selling game franchises of all time. Whatever they're trying to do with this will not be as popular as that.

Wow! Not only did Kathleen Kennedy destroy Indiana Jones reputation and our perception of him she actually killed off her son to make sure there was no Heir Apparent. Man, this is one woman who really dislikes men

She recently gave a very backhanded "Apology" that was essentially blaming Mangold for the film and throwing him ALL the way under the bus. Another franchise ruined. What the heck does she have on the top people at Disney? SOOOOO much respect for Speilberg's absolute public humiliation of her live onstage. She truly deserves no less.

You know who I would have picked for an older female co star? Sigourney Weaver. She's in her 70's, and she still did a ton of physical training and labor for Avatar 2. Here's a quote from her about it: "I don’t voice this, because I know that I’ll get teased mercilessly about what a wuss I am, but I think that everyone enjoys working with Jim because he does demand so much. On Avatar: The Way of Water, I was older than a lot of the other people, and we had to do a lot of parkour. We had to do burpees. We had to do freediving. Don’t you love these jobs where you have to learn some really outlandish thing that you keep with you for the rest of your life? Freediving, especially, I’m grateful that we spent a year doing that." She commands respect, and she puts in the work behind the scenes to deliver the best performance possible. If this movie came with a better script, I think she'd be a worthy co star.

“Imagine Brie Larsen’s Captain Marvel, times 10.” Thanks Chris. Therapy bill coming your way.

Indiana Jones and the Desperate Feminist.

Chris Gore it's such a great speaker, he describes his thoughts without ever getting riled up or emotional about it. Clean and professional, a rare sight as of late.

So glad someone finally pointed out that the body stand in for young Indy looked and moved like an old man, it was jarring to look at.

Kathleen has now killed the marriages and children of two of Harrison Ford's characters. It says a lot about her as a person that she has chosen to retroactively rob audiences of two different happy endings for no good reason or positive payoff. She is truly an evil person and her misandry is clear for all to see.

I'm gonna stop you right there. Indy getting divorce papers and Mutt died in Vietnam. In his first scene. What. Hard pass.

I still find it strange, that Sean Connery played Harrison Ford's father at 59, yet Harrison Ford himself is about to turn 81. I don't know which I dislike more: all these geriatric men and women pretending to be sexy, young, athletic superheroes - or all these younger, androgynous, hormonally-crushed, beanpole children pretending to be muscular heroes. It's an uncanny valley situation far beyond any possible suspension of disbelief.

Twenty-five years ago, Harrison Ford did a throwaway rom-com (Six Days Seven Nights) with Anne Heche -- for which he made 20 mil, 12 points on first-week receipts, and repeatedly fought for more airplane scenes, so he could spend more time chasing his personal hobbyist passion (flying the DeHaviland on the studio's clock + dollars). I don't think he's been very concerned about "artistic integrity" since then.

Phoebe Waller Bridge referring to herself as "beautiful" is super cringy. She's about a 4 and that's after sitting in a make up chair for 3 hours...

Spielberg not acknowledging Kathleen Kennedy during the premiere is gold in itself

The saddest thing is, if River Phoenix never died from an OD, we might have had some really good Indiana Jones prequels in the 90s...

It's okay to have a character divorced and miserable if there's actually a reason. Like John McClane in Die Hard 1, his estrangement from his wife is used to build this incredible character arc where he is humanised as a flawed man, then saves her and shows her that he loves her. Unfortunately modern "writers" just add these things to ruin old characters and make them miserable husks, not to build character development.

Wow, they killed Mutt in Vietnam? That's beyond lame. Edit: For those who believe that I think soldiers dying in war is lame, I admit I was unclear in my statement. I meant I am pointing out the fact that they brushed off the death of Indiana's ONLY SON and we don't get a real moment to figure out how he even felt about him or how his death would shape the character beyond "I'm now grumpier". If you are going to kill off Mutt, at least have the death of his only son mean something? Especially if this is his (presumed) FINAL outing. And I have a hunch that it was done so the only person he could even realistically "pass the torch" off to is Phoebe.

If I want to see an Indiana Jones movie made after the 1980s, I'll watch the first Mummy movie with Brendan Fraser.

Man, the reveal of Mutt's fate was a punch in the gut. Sure, he wasn't a beloved supporting character as Jones Sr or Sallah, but I guess they never learn from Alien 3 or Terminator Dark Fate. I always thought they can still revamp the character in such a way, make him more mature & show signs of growth. But nah, we don't deserve happiness in this world.

I just hope that everyone saying they're not going to see it will actually stand by that conviction. There is no other way to send these studios the message than by not giving them our money.

"It is written for Kathleen Kennedy." WOW. Guy just stated ALL of disney's problems.

I'm 100% boycotting and rejecting any of the movies under Kathleen's control.

Wow, they really didn't like Indy having an happy ending eh? Crusade and even skull ended on a happy note. That getting glassed from orbit right after the "young Indy" part just feels... dirty. Edit: Ah, they do the Back to the future "Have a better today" at the end. But only if he stays home from now on. I used to think the dumb Star Wars "Let the past die, kill it if you have to" line was just written to show just how naive and indoctrinated Kylo was. I never would have guessed it was the bloody modus operandi, slogan and life goal of grand Moff Kennedy.

This reminds me of that pre-screening sneak preview of *The Rise of Soywalker* where the Millennium Falcon was blown up. When you go far beyond not caring anymore (at least when it comes to the new stuff; I’ll *NEVER* give up on the stuff that is genuinely good), I now just want to see just how _horribly_ they can screw things up. It’s a shame you don’t have any (heh heh) rebels among the Left to just hit the Easy Button and release *EVERYTHING:* all the scrapbook edits, all cuts… *EVERYTHING!*

I appreciate the spoiler of the vietnam death and divorce papers. It didn't just kill any remaining desire I had to see the last entry, it shredded the body, cremated the mush, buried the ashes and salted the earth the ashes were buried in just to be sure. I mean, I was never going to see it anyway, but that tidbit sealed the deal.

Critical Doggo's input is spot on as always.

I like how the dog is in this group chat, and he just chills the whole time.

Love your commentary and your guests, your straight on the target!

Spielberg talked about KK always wanting to insert her ideas into stories rather than just getting the coffee. Now that she's had Lucasfilm to make those ideas a reality, it's clear that she should have become the president of Starbucks instead of Lucasfilm.

Listening to Chris Gore describing Indy 5, is akin to listening to someone reading you outloud the details of the police report regarding your family member's murder.

The opening 20 mins castle scene was shot at Bamburgh Castle in Northumberland, England

“GO AWAY NOW!” Followed immediately by an ad for the Indiana Jones movie. 😂 R.I.P Indy

I was on a flight a week ago and decided to watch The Last Crusade, one of my favorite films of all time. Throughout the film, Indiana Jones is equal parts the clever hero and the bumbling fool, there are so many moments where Sean Connery gets to make him look like an idiot. But then, there are plenty of moments where that is reversed and Sean Connery gets to be the butt of the joke, and at the end of the day it's their combined wit and skill that gets Indy through the traps. Nobody is consistently better or worse than the other, everyone has their moment of triumph and failure, and throughout the film it is consistently always fun. But then you have a movie like this, where the failures are one-sided and the tone is bitter and spiteful.

I think Indi losing his son should only have been included if the story arc would have been him trying to find the dial and going to great lengths to get it to save his son.

Some of my best memories as a kid were watching the originals with my old man.

I pretty much figured that they’d kill off Indy’s son. Because we all know that a story would take place in the 60s or 70s, and Nam was going on. So unless Mutt was able to finish school with high marks Nam was going to get him via the draft. But we all know that shouldn’t have happened and this is the end of the franchise. Because honestly we will need a new team and owners of Lucasfilm to rewrite or completely rebuild their franchises. SW kicking off with hopefully Lucas’s planned sequel trilogy that would erase the Disney trilogy, and Indiana Jones being completely rebooted with new actors (few I see can pick up the role, but Chris Pratt I see could do it and be a good successor to the role, but he will have to be very brutal with holding his beliefs and morals against the movie makers as to protect the future of the franchise from sjw nonsense.) Let us all hope that eventually other movies are made with similar themes and ideas to that of the original Indy movies, ones that fill the shoes of what came before and do their best to bring back the classic adventure genre that is sorely missed.

Probably the last thing I want to see about a childhood hero is to see him in squaller with divorce papers and a reminder that his son died in Vietnam.

Based on all that Kathleen Kennedy has done with these male characters from Lucasfilm IP’s, I genuinely feel awful for all of the men in her life.

I love the Chris Gore interviews on Film Courage!

Thanks you've just saved me however much it costs to go and see a film these days. I gave up on modern films years ago anyway. I wonder what clip South Park will parody this time for Indy 5. Pulp Fiction basement scene perhaps?

There was a line in No Time to Die, written by Phoebe Waller Bridge, where the new diverse 007 told original 007 to "stay in their lane". If only Bridge took her own advice. She was fine writing and acting in quirky British feminist comedy. She should never have been attached to these big IP's primarily aimed at a male audience.

So, in this movie, Archimedes could invent a time travel device, but not a weapon to win a war? Makes perfect sense.

Chris Gore is awesome. Love that you brought him to the panel.

Setting up Phoebe Waller-Bridge for a Disney+ show in the Indiana Jones universe for sure

Indiana Jones is the purest form of oldschool male empowerment fantasy. Unlucky + badass + classy when he needs to be. The odds that modern Hollywood could handle that tastefully are on a par with their odds of creating a second MCU.

Imagine if I went back in time and told you Lucasfilm is bought by Disney, they put a woman in charge who wears “the force is female” shirts. The new Star Wars films are about how Luke and Anakin were failures who accomplished nothing, and the real chosen one and hero is the new female lead, she is effortlessly great at everything and she defeats the empire and emperor who came back. Then the new Indiana Jones film is about a old Indy whose son and teased successor is unceremoniously killed off screen, and Indy is replaced by a new female lead who is effortlessly better than him at everything and replaces him. You’d think I was going on some weird rant, making up a straw man to ridiculous and cartoonishly parody like to ever happen. Like someone making fun of feminist influence in films would make it up as a joke. But it actually happened.

Well, I am glad to see they remembered the Omni device from Voyagers!

Killing Mutt is the biggest insult they could have given to Lucas and the fans and it's entirely on purpose. They're basically saying "we've destroyed your dreams and your future". They clearly hate Lucas by killing Indy's son.

This has kind of pissed me off. Marion and Indy are supposed to be together. As bad as Crystal Skull was, that was the one thing they got right. You compare Marion against the relationships with him and Willie Scott or Elsa Schnider, you know those relationships were not meant to be. Indy and Marion are perfect for each other - they had the perfect character dynamic, and you can tell Ford and Allen had a blast playing those characters. His crazy matches her crazy...and now they are divorced!?! Bollocks! And as for Mutt? Okay, I wasn't a fan of the character, but to kill him off in Vietnam - talk about lazy! Gee, Lucasfilm, how far the mighty have fallen!

That ending sounds like the King Arthur and the Knights of Justice cartoon. Merlin opens a portal and pulls a high school football team from the future to stand in for Arthur and his Knights.

Great group for a film discussion, fans of all these guys.👍

I wonder why Kathleen Kennedy hates George Lucas so much. She has gone out of her way to destroy his entire legacy. Star wars, Indiana Jones, even willow wasn't safe. The only thing left is American graffiti.

That's awful to hear what they did to Indy's story. I mean I don't think anyone likes Mutt or anything to do with the fourth film really, but still, why heap such a tragedy onto Indy? Dead son and divorced? Wtf? It's horrible. Indiana Jones movies were never about that kind of stuff. Last Crusade literally ends with Indy riding off into the sunset, why do they have to ruin his life? Can't believe I'm saying this but Crystal Skull is instantly better than this just for giving Indy a happy ending.

I love these 'let's recreate the scene from the classic film but in reverse' moments. It worked so well in Star Trek Into Darkness, after all... 😢

I'll wait until it comes to regular TV, it's raining and I'm sick in bed.

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the Critical Doggo, living his best life.

“The first thing we see is Indiana Jones in his apartment with divorce papers, and his son has been killed.” I don’t even like Crystal Skull, but this genuinely made me feel depressed.

I tend to forget about Doomcock due to the fact that he hardly ever gets brought up. Drinker and Gary used to associate with him a lot but then that just stopped one day. I'm guessing that Drinker doesn't have a lot of positive feelings towards Doomcock due to his one reference to him. I guess it has to do with him always claiming that KK will finally be fired. I'm not sure.

This is all getting like The Empire Strikes Back in early Summer 1980 when mischievous schoolboys were giving away the startling reveal that Vader was Luke's father to others that hadn't seen it!

Critical doggo is making a lot of solid points and I think has perfectly captured the “mood” of the world’s enthusiasm towards this Indy flick…😂❤

They really used one of the most traumatic experiences american families actually went through, losing a son in the vietnam war, to spiritually destroy a male character just because they don't like him. These people would probably send real people to their deaths in wartime and make sure they're all men out of malice. How fucked. Probably would've killed Indy at the start too if they could've gotten away with it.

This movie is gonna be a treat lol Especially since they're rewriting and reshooting the ending again lol Thanks for being based John Williams!

Phoebe Waller Bridge sleeps around in everything she’s in and has a snotty “I know everything’ attitude…🤷‍♀️

Who didnt see this coming? PWB is the star of the movie and the original star is pushed aside, mocked and poked fun at, all to elevate the strong female hero!

This trilogy truly ended with the 4 lads riding into that sunset.

So Archimedes can make a device that brings anyone to this fixed time and location? That's some next level tech know-how that must've been lost somewhere between the then and now.

14:50 “She’s off to a new adventure” What a load of lies. Helena only went for ice cream with the rest of the gang.

Like Anita Sarkeesian in the gaming world, we need to purge movie cancer that is KK and PWB

River Phoenix did a good job with the fully body Harrison Ford-style acting in his cameo in the third movie.

Just as I suspected. They should have done a prequel CGI young Indiana Jones movie and just had him and the other legacy characters voice the parts.

Smokey gave the best critical analysis of this movie. That's all any potential viewer of the movie needs to know. Actually, I think even he was too excited about it. I bet a common reaction from people leaving a movie theater after watching this cinematic lobotomy goes something like "I just wasted more than 2 hours of my life that I can never get back. Maybe someone should use that Dial of Destiny to go back in time and prevent this movie from ever being made!"

Kathleen Kennedy's mandate: 1) Fleabag needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. 2) Whenever Fleabag's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking where is she.

An adventure with Indy and Shortround would have been so much fun but obviously noone at Lucasfilm bothered to give Ke Huy Quan a call 🤦🏼‍♂️

All I heard in my head was "Don't know." when Drinker asked why everyone thought it was a time travel device lol.

16:34 picture says a thousand words. Literally

My favorite scene was when Indiana put on the Fedora, and reflected "this hat is perfect" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat, put it on and said "now it's perfect". Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then with the hat and the machine gun went to kill all the nazis, embarrassing the all male inglorious basterds as well...

It's amazing that Hollywood has completely forgotten how to make likable female characters.

I refuse to pay money to those who destroy the stories we up to and loved.

"They hate this character don't they?" I think they might hate Shia LeBeouf even more🤣

Blade Runner is probably the only Harrison Ford legacy character that was treated with respect and care. Let's hope they don't butcher it if they make more of it

I’m genuinely saddened by this. I’m at a loss for words to describe how disappointed I feel regarding this direction. “Look at how they massacred my boy.”

Chris Gore: she finds some booze... Critical Drinker: *impressed*

I want to know whose bright idea it was to have time travel in this film. I mean really, time travel? In an Indiana Jones movie? Just... _Why?!_ I'm old enough to remember Indiana Jones 4 getting shit on for featuring aliens, so I really want to meet the person who thought including time travel was going to be such a great idea.

The problem with these characters being snarky, is that they'll point to a Tony Stark or a Peter being snarky and they go "WELL WHAT ABOUT THEM" The difference is, the audience feels like those are OUR asshole friend, They are being snarky to people we are rooting against. PWB and Captain Marvel feel like they are being assholes TO us, not FOR us.

Placing Indy in the middle of the Vietnam war and reuniting with his son for a covert adventure or something would have been a far more interesting movie than what they gave us.

My favorite part of the video was Smokey doing his best impression of the state of Lucasfilm throughout the whole video.

Hahahaha the dogs leg twitching, its like kurp on jimmy dores show

The most amusing thing is that this is meant to be yet another "setup for a planned trilogy" that hasn't just failed to launch, it exploded on the launchpad before getting an inch off the ground. Back in the day, all the progenitors of these films were made without concern about laying a foundation for more films, they just made good films and got greenlit for sequels. Today all they do is build a house of cards on a foundation of sand, and then blame anyone but themselves when these hubristic blunders repeatedly fall apart before they even finish production.

I haven't seen "Crystal Skull". I won't see "Dial of Destiny". As far as I'm concerned, the Indiana Jones saga ended at "Last Crusade".

I was just watching some south park and happened to see the episode they did on Indy 4. It was all about how Spielberg and Lucas violated Indy on screen. I never thought they’d let it happen again fifteen years later!

16:32 "Look how they mascaraed my boy." It says everything.

The dog has the best reaction of all. 'Just make it stop!!'

Here’s my pitch for Indiana jones VI. Short round is traveling through south east Asia wearing the iconic hat. He’s sad about his friends being dead but honors their memory by carrying on with their work. He stumbles into a prisoner of war camp and finds mutt held for over a decade. Barely recognizable. Short round breaks him out and they have adventures fleeing North Vietnamese Army troops. Doesn’t even really what relic short round is looking for. The movie will focus on family and never giving up. Towards the end short round gets knocked down the hat flies off, mutt picks it up the iconic music hits hard he puts on the hat and kicks everyone’s ass. The end.

Awww. I love greyhounds. Somehow seems fitting CD would have a greyhound!

Gah...I have a lot to say here. I'm used to classic franchises getting burned to the ground in the name of PROGRESS, but Indy was one that definitely meant something to me. Between Indy and Lara Croft I was influenced to study archaeology for a while, and still- the original three films did kind of foster an interest in history, world cultures, and religions. On top of that, I'm recalling Plinkett's description of why Indy works as an escapist character (the one including "he punches people" a half dozen times). Indy is someone it would be cool to be, not someone that has to deal with real world issues like aging. I always thought Indy drinking from the Grail at the end and being granted "everlasting life" was the perfect way to cap off the character- that should be the final word, he lives on forever now, no longer just a mere mortal but a character that lives on and we look back on. And in the very end he rides off into the sunset. That's the end. But of course, Hollywood can't leave well enough alone. Hopefully this is the final nail in the coffin for Lucasfilm. But we know it won't. Also, something interesting- the artifacts in the original three films were based on things described in the world's myths and religions. Crystal Skull was based on some of Dan Aykroyd's insane paranormalist shit and the Dial of Destiny...WTF even is that? Finally, how is Harrison Ford okay with it? The check cleared.

The dog is living his best life 😄