Glad you enjoyed it my man.

What speakers are you using these with? I'm looking for a a nice desk setup as well :D

I appreciate that!

Much appreciated!

I've zero regrets of buying mine!!

Hey Edmund, glad you're enjoying the content!! Comparisons sadly might go away in 2022 as I'm shifting my review style to be more like the Ares2 and Buchardt A500 review but I will try to still make some comparisons.

@@NemoPropaganda It’s good to switch things up. Your attention to detail will always make you do your best. Because you share your speaker preferences with us, (Both Bookshelf Speakers & subs), you sorta give us a useful comparison anyway. My two cents? I dig the length of your reviews. They are never too long. (No need to be hard on yourself when you feel the video is too long.) I’ll rewatch the two videos you mentioned and comment there. Thanks again for all of your hard work bro. We all can tell you really love and care about two channel audio and 2.1 & 2.2 systems! (And other types as well!)

@@edmundgil6008 thank you! I appreciate that.

hell yeah!! It really is amazing how shockingly good these can be as long as they're fitted in the right size room :)

Hell yeah man that's awesome!!! I wish I still had my pair but I only have 1 now and it's in my living room sitting atop my media console. I love how you can put these anywhere!

@@NemoPropaganda Check it out. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n-CRrJqE26exYJs.html

@@Wised1000 looking good!

I will admit, it certainly is tons of fun, then again the whole point of this channel for me is just fun :D

Exactly, I'm not sure anything can rival it in that type of environment.

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Thank you dude! You have to hear it, it's hard for my brain to understand the little box is where the bass is coming from, it's like a magic trick lol. Though I wonder how aggressive that active DSP will become in a theater environment when called upon to deliver high volume rumbling bass.

oh hello fellow californian! Just being 100, I'm not a particularly nice guy, but I am a good guy. Kind of like the typical new yorker lol.

Which RELs do you have?

Thank's Rob, you're right, either setup really is winning!

Hey thanks Dennis, yeah the KF92 is pretty wild, a pair of the tiny KC62 would also be super cool but you'd save pretty penny going with a single KF92.

yeah, it's nearly double the price but totally worth it for those who can afford it.

prepare to be disappointed lol. The SVS is not going to get a better review than these. It's just not possible...

:) stay tuned brother...

oooo, that's a nice setup!

oh man that's gonna sound fantastic!!

@@NemoPropaganda And my birthday is coming!!! Guess what I’ve asked for? No, seriously just 1, I’ll happily buy the second KC62. By the way, Nemo, I’ve really come to appreciate your no-nonsense reviews, they are just great. Thanks!

@@andrelevesque2405 Well happy early birthday my friend!!

40hz with the S400 and 50-55hz with the Focal Aria. My ceiling is 9ft. I agree, definitely start with 1. ASW608 is great, just expensive in todays market.

I'd love to check that out one day. If it sounds as good as the little KC62 it should be a winner. My only worry is designs like this have super heavy VC and sometimes the crazy amount of excursion can lead to a slower sound but at 6.5" and 9" for the 92 that shouldn't be too bad.

@@NemoPropaganda That makes sense, but you can also rethink it. Which woofer has to work less? The 6.5" or the 9" ? I think the 9"because it has more surface area it can produce more pressure with less effort. I live in the Netherlands otherwise I would lent you mine for a comparison.

I’m not surprised it’s good, i meant that concern is what kept me away in the past. After experiencing the 62 I have a lot of confidence in the 92 now and I’m really eager to hear one. Hopefully one pops up on the used market :D

I have the LS50 Metas and just got the KC62. I want to also order the Maggie LRS's, so I have to ask. Which amp do you recommend? Since you have a head start on what I'm trying to build, any advice would be great

@@ChrisJones-vy2fp I have used numerous NAD amps over the years as I have loved the sound and they typically can drive tough loads and some models even driving 2 ohms. In 2019 I decided to buy a Schiit Freya S and (2) Schiit Vidar amps. Magnepan told me that a Vidar would drive the LRS's fine. Even though the Vidars are not rated for 4 ohms in mono, I've only had 1 thermal shutdown in 1-1/2 years and that was at a very loud listening level over 90db driving the LRS's. I love the sound with these components on both sets of speakers. If LRSs are in your future, you most likely want a beefy class A/B amp that can drive challenging loads.

@@stevengordon2849 Thank you for all this great advice! I'm hoping I can get the LRS's in the next few months, so I think a class A/B amp like you said would be a good investment. Thanks again!

If you came here and heard it I think you would change your mind :D the KC62 was only working below 40hz and giving that final extension that most speakers simply don't have. It sounded amazing!

@@NemoPropaganda Of course I would have to defer to your first hand experience on that. I never tried crossing over that low on a sub.

@@weeooh1 really? I feel like the commonly advised 80hz crossover point is just too high. The highest I'll crossover is like 60hz if I'm using bass shy speakers.

Rocco!!!!!! I want to try those so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm trying to get a hold of KEF to see if they will send me a review sample, even 1 would be really cool :D

@@NemoPropaganda I'll keep my fingers crossed!!

They might still be perfect :)

Well, lets be honest here, a single SB-3000 is an absolute monster so we know for sure 10,000% that will be enough bass :D I'd say that's the safest choice and it will grow with you if you ever move to a larger space.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks so much for the reply, I've been driving myself crazy over this for weeks.

Ahahaha, i know that feeling my bro. The obsession starts to weigh me down and sucks the fun out of it if I let it get too far lol.

@@NemoPropaganda This a big purchase for me so I appreciate that you share your first-hand knowledge with the subs. I wish you had affiliate links!

@@pwnjones It's okay bro, I don't want to use affiliate links, I feel like that blurs the lines too much and I'm lucky to have a great career :D Rest easy though, you can always send it back within 45 days if for some reason it's not a good fit for you but I think you will love it.

My channel is too small to do that live but I did ask for questions in a community post and later answered them in a vide that can be seen here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5yansSG0Z-5ZKM.html

@@NemoPropaganda well, we need to change that shit! We need to get your channel bigger and growing you are awesome

@@rjzlwop3153 Thank you dude I appreciate that, for me it's just for fun though :D

Super easy, crossover all the way down, set phase, adjust gain, done.

Roger, thank you!!

oh yeah!

Hi Marc, I only sit in one spot but no I didn't notice anything like that.

@@NemoPropaganda Hi, and thanks for the prompt reply. Thanks also for the helpful content.

I mentioned the room size in the vid, 10x12x9. My living room is an open concept which is 18ft by 33ft with 9ft ceilings.

I actually have the same theory and I'm also wondering if it's more musical. We will find out :)

Most subwoofers don't have the best fidelity above 60hz, it's one of those trade offs generally speaking you either get deep bass and big power handling or low power handling and great mid bass.

Babupranuv. Nemo has been helping me with my sub selection so I watch all his great reviews. I have REL Tzeros and absolutely love them for midbass. Have you tried running the T5i for midbass and using the SVS micro crossed over super low? I would appreciate any feedback on that configuration as that would be my ideal setup. Many thanks!

@@duythai5442 I did something similar but I didn't talk about it it the video. I ran dual T5i and ran the Rythmik F12SE crossed over at 25hz, it was excellent!!!!

@@NemoPropaganda Hey Nemo. You get a lot of comments so it’s hard to keep track but that was me on the T5i review. Haha.

@@duythai5442 ahahaha, I thought that's what I was commenting on, oh man, I get so many I just try and make sure to reply to as many as possible.

I wouldn't, most rooms aren't a sealed box including mine which opens up to a staircase also except mine goes upstairs.

also....Butttt....... :D

I have not heard the T9i but did review the T5i recently kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9WhiK-Zz8y7lo0.html&t My understanding is most maggie owners prefer REL or Rythmik.

Probably a few weeks out on the micro review as i’m taking a week or two off to reset my brain.

I haven't heard the LSX I'm sorry. If it souds like the Meta any quality subwoofer should be fine.

If you need a small sub pair then yeah dual KC62 is awesome but if you can fit a pair of REL Predators they should outperform the tiny KC62 by a large margin.

Oh absolutely! Room size is a huge factor in all of this. That's a lengthy room you have there, I think a KC62 would still do well at reasonable volumes but if you don't have a space constraint just grab something bigger like a Rythmik F12SE.

This subwoofer plays incredibly clean and without distortion. It has an active DSP so if you demand too much volume from it the active DSP will kick in an roll off some of the extension to avoid distortion or damage. It's a fairly smart design.

Sadly no, Sonos is pretty much a closed system so your only choice is there own subwoofer but the good news is I'm told it's fairly good.

Whats the budget for the speakers?

nah that's way too big bro, the bottom of the KC62 is super small. Do you have a media console you can put it on? If not a small speaker stand should be fine also, or you can be like me and just plop it on top of your speakers :D.

@@NemoPropagandaNo... i will actually be using two 2inch thick floating shelves to put my gear on.. Speakers are on stands but just not enough space for a table or rack.. I have a small speaker stand somewhere. I think I'd have constant aniexty if I plopped in on top my active bookshelf. Lol Limited space in bedroom so we'll see. Thanks man. Happy to see these are back in stock and that Kef didn't raise the price.

@@backrack01 it's tiny enough that I'm sure you'll find somewhere to put it :)

It is not uncommon to run subs dual mono and some argue that dual mono is the correct way to do it. Of course others will argue dual stereo is preferred. I think it's a minor detail and not too important.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks Nemo - as a purist I would say noooooo. - but as a music lover I will say I don't care - just give me more of that beautiful Kef sound - so that is what I will do - I only got them plugged in for the first time today - but know a bit of sub boom is what is required

T9X for sure bro, there is a guy in my Discord that has a single T9X in a fairly large room and he's extremely happy with the results. Of course you cannot expect it to have huge dynamic output for theater as it is still a 10" subwoofer and while its the largest of the TX range it is still relatively small as far as subwoofers go. If theater is more your focus I would instead suggest the HT1205 MK2 that I just reviewed last week as that will give you much more output and a larger driver and you can get a pair for just a little more than a single T9X price.

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you so much!!! I'm going for the T9X due to space and your comments! I relly appreciate that!

most plate amps will have some slight audible sound if you put your ear against them but that is not something I generally do, you should not hear any sound from about 3ft away. Like if you can hear sound from the amp while you're making adjustments that's okay but as soon as you backup a few feet you should not be able to hear anything or you could have some grounding issue in your home or the plate amp may have some issue.

@@NemoPropaganda It's not something I've ever noticed on my 3 SVS subs or my much, much, much older Velodyne. They all have class D amps and are silent. You're right, I do not hear from the front of the sub. Seems out of place on a $1500 sub.

@@HeySeeri I dunno, I had two of them and both of mine were dead silent but I've heard some noisy plate amps before.

Do you have a large room or listen loud enough to be in its sweet spot? The KC62 is a low volume or small room champion so it's in that criteria that I give it such high praise.

@@NemoPropagandahey. my living room is 20sqm with 1cm thick carpet which gives good acoustics .... rarely I play very loud. have you heard ml dynamo 1100x? thanks for the response👍

@@j-w-67 mmmm, I would consider that a medium size room, I have not heard the Dynamo so I'm not sure which would be better for your room size but I would see how the Dynamo is and go from there, no sense in thinking about it too much until it arrives and you spend a few days with it :)

I connected them using Analysis Plus Oval One rca cables.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks Nemo!

It won't really be vs. as the Micro is half the price so you can buy 2 for the price of one :D

it depends, while the KC62 is much more expensive the SB1000 Pro can actually play louder because it is a larger subwoofer. What the KC62 will do is provide you with crazy amounts of extension out of a very small form factor and reasonable volumes. If you're looking to save some space, add some extension at reasonable volumes, and reduce the subs size then you will enjoy it but remember a big part of the cost for the KC62 is in the size. I still have my KC62 and continue to love it, it's a very special little sub :)

oh yeah, while the little KC62 can't get as loud as something like an SB1000 Pro it's still very shocking to hear & feel what comes out of this little box.

I’m more surprised by the fidelity in all honesty! Everything is getting smaller& stronger, hell AMG has a 2.0 engine putting out over 400hp 🤯

I think there are a few more companies than use app control but no I have not heard the paradigm. The SB3000 is a strong choice though.

Could be the $7000 price tag. I’d have a REL Carbon special for nearly half the price all day long 😻

Comparing the two is like asking how a 1989 toyota corolla compares to a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo S. The KC62 is superior in every way.

@@NemoPropaganda you mean I can drive a Porsche for $1,500?

@@fredericklevick7925 Yes, a base 911 with $12k down would run roughly $1500/month on lease :D

Between 8-9 o'clock :)

Sorry my dude I don't do vinyl :( What price are you shopping though?

Nemo Propaganda Reviews maybe around $800 for a pair. Would you recommend floor standing?

@@g-wiz2953 my advise is get the one you think looks better, personally i think bookshelf speakers look better :). At up to $800 I really like the Elac DBR62 which are $600, the good news is you should be able to listen to them at your local bestbuy/magnolia store so you can make sure they're to your taste :)

Nemo Propaganda Reviews hahaha, “the one that looks best”, cause the most important thing about speakers is the looks. But, fair enough though, you want a nice looking speaker. Also, maybe I guess everything is decent, especially at that price range. I’ll check the Elac speakers out. As far as looks, I was admiring the look of some of Monitor Audio’s bronze range speakers. Do you recommend any of those. Also what’s your thoughts about getting a subwoofer with the bookshelf’s to get a fuller range, or is that just unnecessary?

@@g-wiz2953 I reviewed the Monitor Audio Bronze 100, they're lovely speakers at $450 but at the full MSRP of $600 I think that's too expensive for them. Personally I like subwoofers but many people will not need a subwoofer with the Bronze 100. Yes to me looks is the most important part of the speaker. If it's ugly, I don't care how good it sounds... you asked me, I answered :).

I bought them used from a local seller.

i'd say if the full 30 sqm was a listening room that would be medium sized.

already did my bro kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8CSrdmS09uXpnU.html

@@NemoPropaganda thank you & keep up the great job! 😎👍🏻

I don't review discontinued products and the XTEQ 8 has been discontinued for awhile now :(

I liked the KC62 crossover almost all the way down, like maybe 5-7 clicks up from all the way down.

@@NemoPropaganda thank you

Do you think its normal that my Volume are Only 15% Up? If i make it louder the Base are muddy and roars.

@@Frumsl84 I have mine set to 7 clicks from zero, is yours about the same?

@@NemoPropaganda yes the Crossover are at 50 Hz after 7 clicks

music or theater system?

@@NemoPropaganda Music 85%, HT 15%

@@macmovieman1 I like the KC62 for a more music focused systempersonally but if you don't need a tiny sub you can save some cash and have way more performance out of something like a Rythmik F12SE.

@@NemoPropaganda awesome, I’ll go check it out

Not at all. Truth is it sounded great no matter where i put it :)

@@NemoPropaganda thanks bro, i have mine right between my KEF LS50 metas. Still waiting to get my Hegel H390 so a lot of tweaking left still. Using an old AVR at the moment. Just breaking in for the time being 😊

Hi Eugene, so the KC62 is really good, just to be clear it can blend high up better then a lot of other subs but subs like REL and Rythmik are the best at blending. Hope that helps clear things up.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the reply Nemo. I might have to pass on the KEF. Doing a little more research but there seems to be an issue with the KEF KC62 easily going into standby mode on low volume.

@@Eugene737 really? I didn't have that problem at all, maybe it's not so common?

@@NemoPropaganda yeah, I hope not. It’s probably the only option for me at this point or the f12se. I would consider rel again, specifically thr s510 but I had issues with the T5i vibrating my floors with the Down firing driver even when using a auralex subdude

@@Eugene737 omg if you can do the F12SE why not? It's way more capable than the KC62 and far more articulate.

At that kind of volume I would prefer the SVS for sure because you will have a more consistent experience with your bass and you can get two of them which will be tremendously louder than a single KC62. If I were you I'd grab 1 SVS Micro to start and see how you like it :).

@@NemoPropaganda thank you for the advice, I will some few days to think about it. And understand if an extra 600€ for 11hz is worth it😀 or not! I'll let you know about my decision! Thanks for you disponibility have a great day and thank for all your incredible contents!

@@anthonyp.3486 no problem dude, just keep in mind that super low extension the KC62 is capable of is only at lower volumes like 75db. At louder volumes like 85+db the Micro 3000 and KC62 will have similar extension.

aye!!!!!! there will much striking happening lol

Should be fine for music in a room that size. Theater is harder to judge however...

@@NemoPropaganda I did have the Rel HT1003 in that room for Home Theatre and felt it was loud enough (and quality was good, nice quick punchy bass) just wanted to try something with lower octaves before settling in. Usually max I get to with volume is 80db (measured at seating pos), after rhat it starts being too loud... Was checking in on PB-2000 Pro and am wondering if that one in this room is too much and definitely KC62 has way better WAF 😀. I can get B-Ware KC62 for the same price as PB-2000 Pro here. BTW I do have Dali Oberon 7's at the front whic could dig into 40-50hz range already (official is 37hz), and Oberon 3 in the Back which i think also go down to 45hz so im not necessarily looking for something to cover everything upnto 100-120hz just lets say 11-60hz

@@MilosHadziStevic I say be a good man and go for the KC62 first, I think it should be enough around 80dB and that way you will both be happy :D and in the small chance that's it's just not enough bass then you know for sure a large subwoofer is the only solution or a second KC62. The KF92 is supposed to be very good also though I have not heard that one yet, I hope to in the next few months.

Not sure, I've never heard it.

In my room they sounded the same either way but that could be room dependent.

I like both subs a lot, the REL will have better textures and transients while the KC62 will be more forceful in the lower frequencies (at lower volumes). Both subs are very good, that's a tough one honestly because I own both and I use both and I still can't decide. I think you will be happy either way.

@@NemoPropaganda I hope you do not mind if I ramble a bit here... This is my therapy session for the day... Nemo, I do not know you personally, I feel I can trust your thinking having been around the block a few times in my near 60 years on earth, most of those years behind the wheel of a semi, living out of a gym bag. It is nice to see there are still young men out here with a head on their shoulder, as that is getting to be rather rare out here. And I'm not kissing your ass. Alright... Are the KEF really $800 better? Or a subwoofer/speaker that will outlive the REL with its time tested design? I look at that too. Time to run off into the weeds here for a second, and then to my point... Remember, this is therapy... When I bought the KLH Model 5's I saw a simple time tested design, a pair of speakers that would last for years without issue if used properly and taken care of. Like those old Kenmore washing machines that Sears use to build, the ones that in many cases are still running somewhere in this country. I know you are a gear head, and so am I out of necessity, as there are few if any real mechanics out here anymore, lots of "techs", very few real mechanics. I own a semi, sitting in the sleeper right now typing away, and have discovered that It is cheaper to buy the tools, diagnostic equipment and software then to take it to a "mechanic", only to discover I have to go back and repair all of their screw ups. I'm going somewhere with this... The KEF make me a bit nervous with all of the modern wiz bang electronic tomfoolery going on inside the box. Just like our modern, and very unreliable wiz bang semi trucks. If something snaps inside the KEF, I see a $1500 paperweight. Where with the REL, a phone call will more than likely fix the matter, even fifteen years down the road if the parts are still available. Parts I more than likely could replace easily at the kitchen table if I am even still here. "No user servicable parts" is the first thing that comes to my mind with KEF. Are there any serviceable parts in the KEFs? After the three year warranty runs out, then what? I highly doubt they are as responsive as say SVS is to their customers. And I think that is a valid concern and should at least be on the radar when reviewing these subwoofers. I had one of the original scratching posts from SVS, and called them just a couple of years ago as it was having issues. Turns out it was a fuse, they even sent me out a few new ones at no charge. Will KEF do that, are there even any servicable fuses/parts in it? Can you even get the KEF apart, short of using a drilling hammer? You know where I am going... Well, that is my line of thinking anyway, and I think it is a valid line of reasoning. Nemo, thank you for your time, as I believe this therapy session went well, as it looks like I talked myself into purchasing a pair REL T7x's, which ultimately is all your fault. And I say that jokingly, and with respect, as I never really paid much attention to REL, you opened my eyes to their product line. Thanks again, and keep up the good work, as I believe you and Thomas are two of the best out here... As Thomas once so eloquently stated, "Watching YT videos can quickly drain your wallet". ;-)

@@michaelwright1602 Ah yes, SG1, so amazing! So KEF actually has awesome customer service so there is no worry there but I hear your concerns. I remember people saying the same things 15 years ago when cars started to become loaded with tech. The KC62 is one of the more technologically advanced subwoofers and there are a lot of pro's to that but also some cons as you have pointed out. I think anytime we push tech that far we will always find ourselves here where some people have some concerns and I think that's okay. My guess is the KC62 was really a proof of concept and that KEF will maybe start to use a passive version of this subwoofer driver in their uber high end Blade speaker, it's just a guess though :). Half way reading your comment I thought I'd mention REL but looks like you beat me to it and ended up with a great product that is more suited to your style and that's a great way to make a buying decision. I did the same thing for DAC's. I hated all the complex features and menus so many of them had so I bought the simple Denafrips Ares2. I don't need no stinking options lol, just make it sound good! Anywho I hope you enjoy the rest of your day and drive safe my man!

He said he was downsizing so he got a smaller pair of subs but then decided not to downsize, sounded like he had a big room so he ended up going with a JL Audio Fathom. He was an 80% theater kind of guy and was probably worried the active DSP would ruin the fun at reference levels in his larger room.

hall yeah brother!

@@NemoPropaganda LOL! Me and the grandkids used to sit for hours binge watching SG1, I bought the entire DVD collection... Fun times.

I never heard cornwalls but a user in my discord has them paired with dual JL E112 and is very happy.

I'm a music only customer so my needs are a bit different. If I was a mixed system customer then yes! The Micro having the different user profiles is a huge convenience for mixed system users. I filmed a 3 way video of t5x, micro, and kc62 where I talk about that, if you wat to email me I'll send you the link. It's like my back up video that will go live one day when I'm too busy to film lol.

@@NemoPropaganda would be cool to see that video, how do i email you? KZfaq won't let me put my email address on here

@@hclandscapes you might have to be on a computer but it's listed in my about section.

it's listed in the instruction manual, but you really should just be using line level. No reason to use high-level unless you don't have pre-out or subwoofer output.

@@NemoPropaganda I see, I should use low level input then. I thought you are using high level inputs. How about for subwoofer placement, should each sub I place it as close as possible to the front speakers? Because if the sub located quite far from the fronts, how to adjust the time delay?

@@1psxpat I recommend putting the sub where you want and see how it sounds :). Since they are so small I just mine on top of the speaker 😂 and it actually sounds really good like that lol.

@@NemoPropaganda I have a questions, for KEF KC62 , setting for LPF and HPF crossover is separates, right. Should the LPF crossover setting and HPF crossover the same? For example if I set LPF crossover at 60Hz, then I should set my HPF crossover also at 60Hz? Thanks.

@@1psxpat I say this with respect my friend but these kinds of questions are tech-support and you really should be reaching out to KEF or the distributor you're buying from. Make them earn their money from you. I'm just a youtuber, I do this for free and for fun but I don't know all the ins and outs of every product. I'm mostly familiar with common use scenarios and that's about it. I'm sorry but I do not have the answer for this.

Hello, KC62 is a great subwoofer, it will have a lot more extension than a pair of T5X but the pair of T5X will have a little better sound quality. I think both are very good options. I am not familiar with ATC speakers though. Get the KC62 if you value extension more, get the pair of T5X if you value bass fidelity more.

@@NemoPropaganda much appreciated for quick response, I have 4 to 5 inches short space to accommodate 2 t5x , hence have a movie setup with Dali Oberon 5 + nad t758v3 avr and Dali e12f sub in same room.. unable to make space two of t5x , to me sound quality does matter , dnt need spl much and music come first. Keeping that in mind If I go with one t7x, I was just watching your review on it, will it be better than the kc62 sq prospective.

@@monotoshmitra I like both a lot, if you prefer sound quality more then go for the T7X. It has better fidelity overall.

@@NemoPropaganda 🙂 many thanks 🍺🍺

That's an ultra slim compact theater speaker, I'm not surprised they can't play too loud. Your not using them in a music only system are you? They're meant to be wall mounted next to your TV.

@@NemoPropaganda hey thanks for replying yes they are wall mounted they sound awesome but voices can be hard to understand

@@NemoPropaganda what sound mode do you usually run your receiver in ? Thanks

@@sheltonswimmer4142 I don't have a receiver, i run a pure line stage pre/power amp setup. I don't even have tone controls :)

@@sheltonswimmer4142 are you using a third one for a center channel? That should help but generally thin speakers like that will be better than TV speakers but lack the bass needed for good vocals, that's just my guess though :( I'm not really into theater as my whole system is for music only.

ahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 Kitty BUTT!!!! I'm glad someone noticed, this is why I don't edit videos, forget about making a high polished video I want funny crap on the screen, I literally laughed for 10 minutes straight while inserting them lol.

This is a good question for KEF or the dealer you would buy from, let them earn their money lol

Need 2 receivers but it’s on KEFs website for wireless connection

Thanks I’ll check out their site.

I think perhaps you don't realize how big the PB16 is bro, this is like asking how a tank compares to a motorcycle :). PB16 is almost 200 lbs!!!!!!!!

@@NemoPropaganda LOL, Dual KC62 is even more expensive than single PB16 Ultra

@@vnasution6344 yes because of the size, think about it like this. If you want a powerful laptop it will be like $2000 or more but that same power in a full size PC will be only around $1000, because the laptop is smaller it's more expensive to make it. So small subwoofers like the KC62 only makes sense if you cannot fit a larger subwoofer, otherwise for sure you will have better value with something larger.

mmm sadly there is no airplay support. So the Devialet phantom is rather amazing, I've only heard them in pairs and it was something like $4000 for the pair. They are stunningly good for what they are!! A pair of those had more bass than 1 of these subwoofers but pair for pair, god my memory is a bit hazy but I wanna say the Phantoms I heard still played way louder.

I'm curious to try it :)

This was my first run through, thorougly enjoyed it, now I'm going to rewatch Atlantis.

@@NemoPropaganda If it's not too late you can find a watch guide that tells how to watch the SG-1 and Atlantis episodes in order such that you see where the stories crossover or overlap in time. This begins around season 8. I have the guide in the same folder as the series and I refer to it when I'm doing a rewatch. Whichever way you want is cool, though.

@@Bob-Fields I saw that but It looked like too much work honestly. I actually just finished SG1 yesterday and I'm watching the Continuum Movie right now and then it's on to Atlantis where I get see the lovely Dr. Weir :D. It's been about a decade since I watched Atlantis so I think it will be a new experience again, kind of like when I rewatched Star Trek Enterprise. BTW if you're into space stuff Star Trek Discovery is literally the best show I've seen in years.

@@NemoPropaganda Very much into Star Trek. Discovery is very good but I confess I am a DS9 fan. Babylon 5 was fantastic when it aired. The story holds up today, though the production values on it are dated.

@@Bob-Fields oh man, I loved DS9! Watched it 3 times lol, have you seen the recent documentary? I just watched it tonight, it was a lovely trip down memory lane kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r66Zq7pqtbLXcZc.html

It should be an outstanding performer as long as you don't want bass at very high volumes. This sub can dig crazy deep & low but it's physical size limits it's maximum SPL. If you are a normal person you should be super happy with it.

Thank you

can you tell me the time stamp where i said that so I can review it? I'm 99% sure I was referring to my own systems connectivity options but I'll double check it if you can list the time stamp for me.

@@NemoPropaganda kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLWZrdphy9aql4k.html

@@NemoPropaganda 14:26

@@jonahwaltonmusic oh okay, I remember now. Yeah the manual shows dual's for stereo use to be connected in stereo. That doesn't mean you can't do dual mono. I just ran into a lot of cancellation issues when running dual mono. That certainly could be a room specific issue for me, I'm not sure. I also was not using the subwoofers high-pass function. Truth is you can setup them up however you prefer but I personally found for a music only system hey sounded best in dual stereo but again that could be a room issue for me.

@@NemoPropaganda I think I am going to go for the REL T/9x ;)

quality in what regard?