Dzeeff says "Last weekend I got married, so that was pretty exciting" in the same voice he talks about new Ghost Rare's coming out

Dzeeff, the kind of guy that casually got married

In my opinion, the main problem was power creep. Not just in terms of pendulum monsters, but Yu-Gi-Oh has had a huge problem with power creep that has only gotten bigger over the decades. I think a lot of people were reaching their limit around the Zexal era and the addition of pendulums with the new summons and extra effects and gamespeed just threw them over the edge. I know I was starting to feel the creep way back in the 5Ds era.

Whenever someone makes the argument that pendulum summoning isn’t that broken of a mechanic I remember how in order to keep said mechanic in check, Konami had to unban some of the most broken cards in the game to keep the broken mechanic in check.

Guy just casually drops that he hasn't made videos because he got married Congrats man

“Last week I got married. So that was really exciting” never change Doug. Congratulations!

Man this was a nostalgia trip! Back when Pendulums were released I was convinced they were broken cuz my friend would always beat me and my Elemental hero deck, little did I know I was just trash at the game 😂

For me it was the effect it had on Spellcasters; we went form occasional Spellcaster support for Spellcasters in general or Dark magician to only support for pendulum Spellcasters or Dark Magician. It felt really shitty because if you had an older deck that isn't Dark magician or a pendulum Spellcasters deck you basically went without any new cards for a time until link monsters came and brought out more Spellcaster support.

"Last weekend I got married, so that was very exciting" Well, that's one way to put it. Congrats man!

BRO. Congrats on your marriage!!!

Pendulums weren't what made me quit the game initially, I quit before pendulums due to life getting too busy and getting into MTG. However, pendulums WERE the thing that kept me from ever trying the game again until master duel. They are EXTREMELY anti-newcomer. Like, yes, once you know how they work, they aren't actually all that complicated, but in a TCG, the more rules you have to learn from a rulebook that you cant figure out on the fly by playing the game, the worse of an experience for new players the game is. And with pendulums, you can take one look at a card and know you have no idea what it does and no amount of reading the card will change that. That is really, really bad for attracting people to the game. And I think the effect was just amplified for lapsed players. If you know the rules to yugioh but still cant figure out what a card does after reading it, you're going to feel like the game just got away from what it was. Not trying to be all yugioh boomer, I've been playing master duel and find the game enjoyable even if I can't play random normal monsters in defense mode and pass turn anymore. It's a different game, but still fun. I just think them introducing pendulums into the game was a big mistake for player retention and for bringing in new players. It's a really, really weird card type.

Man I seriously haven't played Yugioh in ~15 years, but I love watching your videos, I watch all of them. Hearing you casually got married makes me very happy lmao. Congratulations and best of luck mate!

Talks about yughio before their marriage, the grind is real.

Dzeeff: Makes an insightful video about why pendulums are hated. Everyone: HOLY SHIT HE GOT MARRIED. ... Jokes aside, congrats!

It’s gonna be sooooooooo fun trying to read those paragraphs in duel links when pendulums come out soon under that bs short timer.

As someone coming back in to the game for the first time in over ten years, pendulum was the only reason I even gave master duel a chance. It was fun to play, when I played my first few duels I just watched the other player spam out cards while the best I could manage was one or two. This archetype gave me a chance in a game that is nothing like it was the last time I played.

Holy fucking shit, congratulations on your marriage my man, wish you the best of luck in your married life.

"I hate Pendulums cause they summon a bunch of monsters every turn." "And how is that different from every other meta deck?"

"when in reality that is not really the case" show me a modern deck that doesn't have paragraph cards dawg 💀

I left yugioh when xyz’s were introduced and only saw pendulums through Facebook groups. Originally I didn’t like them because of all the text, but now I love the mechanic and odd-eyes is my favourite deck

My wedding gift to you is watching the ads all the way through. It ain't much, but it's honest work

How does he do that? Stay so casual about Everything. Even about his own marriage Truly a legend.

Yup, pretty much sums up my experience. Synchro summons were fun, like easier ritual monsters. Xyz was more difficult but the good effects were balanced with being limited by the overlays. Pendulums I understood the mechanic and it’s rulings, but it always felt like needlessly complicated pretending to be an exciting game mechanic. And yeah, when cards started getting an average of 3-4 effects each and getting covered in text I called quits. I want to have fun while playing, not study law…

The good news about Pendulum Summoning: It allows you to summon a lot of monsters and pull off cool combos. The bad news about Pendulum Summoning: The same as the good news.

The way pendulums work is just so weird compared to all other mechanics. They exist in their own cocaine fever dream.

I can clearly hear Trif going ballistic in his room, thrashing his table.

I think a fairly big reason why people didn't (or still don't) pendulums, is how far removed they are from the rest of the game. Which ties in to how (un)intuitive they are, I guess. Synchros were... basically fusion monsters, with less restrictions, you could say. You have monsters on the board, and use those to make a bigger one by sending them to the grave.The main complaint about those, was their powerlevel. XYZ was sort of the next step, where the whole thing of keeping the materials on the card happened. That's still similar enough to, let's say, equipment cards. Yes, that's probably a stretch, but I'm trying to get behind how people went to lengths to "rationalize" the cards' behaviour. Pendulums... yeah. new zones *and* an existing zone being used differently *and* the cards don't really behave like pretty much any other card, in that they don't go to the grave when leaving the board? That feels like it's an entirely different game. Link Monsters still have that extra zones stuff, though I guess after pendulums people were easier to accept them. But they're still fairly intuitive by how the summoning works at least. Even their effects that apply to/from cards they point to (which I'd say is their main mechanic), those are entirely readable from the card itself, no need to grab a rulebook. Well, I guess the restriction on extra deck summons comes with them as well, but even that feels fairly tame after pendulums. All of them besides pendulums have something in common. They're in the extra deck like regular fusions, they are summoned from the extra deck like others, they go to the grave like others. If I didn't know about pendulums and someone I'm playing against puts them back to the extra deck, I'd very much ask what the heck he is doing. For a cheating attempt, that's a bit *too* blatant, else I'd asusme that. And while the materials of the XYZ cards staying (sorta) on the board would make me at least raise an eyebrow, it's easy to see from their effects that something like that is supposed to happen. I do wonder what my opinion would be, if Links came out before Pendulums. I do think I would've minded them more than I did this way, but nowhere as much as pendulums.

I've played these guys in Master Duel, and I must admit I love this extra deck mechanic, Syncrhos are still my favorite but this is a close second

I always hated how Pendulums don't go to the GY when destroyed, especially when they were first announced. There are so many ways to disrupt GYs but Pendulums felt immune in an unfair way

Hey, if she can accept your cards having their own room, then she's a keeper

I felt it could be broken at the time but I also hoped it would make some slower decks more playable - like Steelswarm. The mechanic that actually turned me off was link monsters - restrictions for summoning anything from the extra deck and that made link monsters mandatory for the majority of decks. It was too restrictive in my opinion - even Konami backed it (mostly) down later. Now I think it is kinda nice as it is usually less restrictive (links monsters usually don't have level requirementa for material, as an example).

People will complain that you can pendulum summon 5 level 6-7 monsters in the first turn, and then synchro-xyz-link summon 5 monsters with 4000 ATK on their first turn

Congratulations on getting married! It's gonna be a ride, but at the end of the day it's worth it. Been with my wife for almost 10 years now

"Pendulums caused the most backlash" Uhh....Anyone else remember when they first announced Links?

Dude!!! Congratulations! Here’s to many happy years ahead for you and yours! 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

I think my biggest problem as a returning casual who dropped out around the time when XYZ/Zexal was getting started, isn't understanding the new mechanics. Link Evolution does a good job walking people through the basics. It's that there's SO MANY cards and strategies and decks and card sets that it's overwhelming to even consider making my own deck from scratch. Unless I were to just unlock every card possible and go through them all one by one, looking for cards that go well with each other, I'd have to go on a long google dive of looking up specific sets of cards, their general abilities, and other cards that might go well with them. It feels like a lot of work just to get to the starting line. And while I'm fine using a deck that I found online for the story mode of LE, there's a lot more to learn when I'm thinking about dueling other actual people who have way more experience and knowledge than I do. Also, I hate Link Summoning. Even the tutorial it gives you is just special summoning like 20 different monsters in a row until you get to a vaguely powerful card that wins the game for you.

3:40 Abridged Pharaoh: So they built a Duel Academy because now you need a Ph.D to READ A CARD?! Yuya: I’m not even 20 yet, CHILL! XD

Xyz is my favorite inclusion because it didn't required special cards (like tuner monster or polymerization), was easy to use and reminded of how fusions were made in the start of the anime / manga (almost the mammoth arrow thing). Also, gave limited time effects to the monsters thanks to the material requirement. Was a indeed neat adition.

3:47 when I first used a pendulum monster on duel links, I found it pretty easy to use, I said “oh that’s cool, so you can treat this card as a monster or as a spell depending on the situation you need it in”. Learning pendulum summoning did take some time tho

I started playing competitively in 2015 during PePe format. After about a month of playing, I won my first regionals with Odd-Eyes Magicians even beating some PePe decks. So I have a bit of a sentimental spot for pendulums and to this day they're my favourite type of deck

Ppl who complain about too much text on newer yu-gi-oh cards have never read venomnaga out loud.

I don’t hate pendulums :(

Synchros worse than Pendulum to me. Thats when I quit.

I’m late to the party because I’m new to your videos, but seriously, congratulations on your marriage! I wish you both all the best! 😁

Married yugitubers is the new meta. Cimo, Farfa, Sam, Triff y'all slackin!

Dammit now I want some Odd Eyes & DDD support.

Great Video, you excatly captured the feelings of the Players That had problems with pedulum when it first came out. But I feel like the title should be „Why everybody hated pendulum“ since you mainly Focus on when that timezone during its release, I don’t think it is still as hated as it was back then.

I definitely remember trying to splash Timegazer and Stargazer into my old Dragon deck and yeah it went terribly

Congratulations 🎉 🎉🎉 on your wedding. I use to find them completely confusing. Nowadays I find some really confusing like pendulum xyz monsters and some less confusing.

Pendulums today are just a shell of what they used to be. Back in the day when they had their own dedicated zones and also having a free soulcharge every turn was insane Edit: had to add the “also having” into my sentence bc some ppl misunderstood my message.

When pendulum first came out, I was more confused than upset. I got into the game when xyz monsters first appeared so its not like I had old school yugioh attachment as some of the veterans, but I understand where they were coming from. For me, I was still trying to master xyz summoning with my zexal deck, and by the time I made xyz my ace summon method, pendulums came out then boom, basically have to learn the game all over again. However, despite that, I can never say I was bored or irritated by pendulum cards. It was a new mechanic, and even when I was 12 at the time, I knew konomai did this to spice up the game, and good on them for doing so. I never really saw it as broken, as most decks at the time were still functional without them. Sure, it was kinda repetitive seeing TG magician and SG magician with odd-eyes every time, but that the flow of the game with new mechanics. Learning, for me at least, was made easier when I saw the anime, but of course, not all things translate to real dueling. To this day, while I am an XYZ master, I am still trying to master pendulum summoning as my second go-to. I have made this trickster-style performapal deck to help me out, but I wish I could go all out like we used to during rule 3. Mastering pendulum now was made even harder for me since links first came out, which is a summoning method I will never enjoy. In conclusion, my personal ranking of summoning styles mainly focuses on the more recent ones (except links), but I still found a way to enjoy each and every single one, no matter how much I prefer one over others. 1. XYZ 2.Pendulum 3.Synchro 4.Fusion 5.ritual 6.Links

I still have that rubber playmat from the starter deck! It's really nice for doing test hands at my computer since it is so compact haha

Wow you had that wedding set as a face down trap lol congrats Doug

I was about to remark the casual "I got married" thing, but apparently this comment section is already full of that kind of stuff. So, I will do the very same thing, but in Italian. Congratulazioni per il tuo matrimonio buon signore! Tanta felicità per te e tuo marito ❤️

As an old school duelist, looking at a textbook worth of text seems like absolute gaming hell. Especially when you’re playing a deck you’ve just made so you gotta read it to make sure you aren’t misremembering the ability, 5 minutes later you finish reading and play it, then your opponent has to read it. It just seems so disruptive to the flow of game

The mechanic was recently added to Duel Links, I have to admit, it's really easy to grasp and fun. Can't wait till Duel Links gets some viable Pendulums.

Here's a video suggestion: Why Everyone Loves Trif despite their hate to pendulum?

Everbody hates pendulums Me chilling with my arcV character decks loving pendulums

I didn’t mind synchros, XYZs, or link monsters they are quite fun and this is coming from someone who usually played either mainly fusion heavy decks or decks that used ritual monsters (I’m so excited for the new magikey monsters a combination of ritual, fusions, and synchros count me in). I didn’t like them when they were first introduced and quite frankly being able to summon five “monsters” on one turn was quite dumb and infuriating. I’m fine with them adding in new things, like link monsters to me is a really cool mechanic, I just did not enjoy seeing pendulum monsters. I am very excited about the new magikey cards

I just started playing Yu GI Oh few days ago and I fell in love with pendulum mechanic. It's omega fun.

When Trif sees this title he is gonna destroy his house

playing against Qliphort for the first time and seeing the guy summon 5 high ATK monsters with just one card in their hand was something else

As a returning old school Yu-Gi-Oh player seeing a lot of the new mechanics did freak me out but now all I can think is wow this is just as exciting as when I first started to learn Yu-Gi-Oh

As someone who only learned of Pendulums last year, after being out of collecting and playing for a good decade, I was intrigued by them. I find them a fairly nifty mechanic, and definitely can facilitate all sorts of extra deck plays. My main complaints are that it took me forever to figure out how they properly work, and that it’s very hard to remember all the details of their effects due to how long the texts can be. They can definitely be confusing and frustrating, but then again I know people who thought the same of Synchros and Links. Also, congrats on the wedding.

Trif is gonna be mad when he sees this

As a casual player, my favorite extra deck mechanic is xyz summon. But it feels sad that they are actively killing a mechanic that was once strong. There are still cards that can handle pedulum summoning plus the master rule restriction, it pretty much killed the mechanic.

I'm a returning player, for the second time and I tried to return about the time of master rule 4 and was completely confused. Ended up quitting the second time. Now that I'm back with master rule 5 I still refuse to play pendulum cards. I'm just happy that much of the restrictions on extra deck monsters have been lifted.

I think part of the initial idea that you would throw time gazer and star gazer into any deck is at least partially due to how they were used in the anime, especially how in like episode 4 what’s his face just steals star gazer and time gazer and puts them into his deck (also the battle Royale segment of the tournament arc, where they just give generic pendulums to random decks). This is in contrast to how fusion synchro and xyz were pretty much used the same way in both the anime and actual game (although much slower and with worse monsters in the anime)

"Why Everyone Hates Marria... I mean Pendulum. By the way I got married".

Everybody BUT: that one guy at every other local and Trif

Hey man, may be two months ago but congratulations on getting married! Not a competitive TCG player, but my wife and I play occasionally, as do I and a few of my old friends who used to duel on the school yard “back in the day.” In all seriousness, 90% of that interest stays fresh because of the nostalgia we get from your channel. Hope you and your spouse also find some “old school” fun in this game you’ve kept fresh for many years!

Congratz on the marriage! (A few months late, but still) Kinda sad that this vid made me realize a lot of people don't like my favorite summon/monster typing. But it's very insightful on the reasons why

Looks at title: but I love pendulums Looks at comments: congratulations on your marriage

Me, a Metalfoes player: I don't hate Pendulums.

I've played Yu-Gi-Oh since 2006. Through fusions/rituals, synchros, XYZs, and even didn't mind adding a link monster to my frightfur fusion deck I've been enjoying and building over time. And even after all that, I still don't know how to play pendulums.

With some hindsight and master duel to mess around I admit that pendulums and links are more balanced and also more simple than I ever gave them credit for. While I personally haven't messed around with pendulums, dueling someone in ranked still felt reasonably okay. Links making me need to care about columns is a bit hard to get used to but even in the low tier jank trash I run I can usually fit 1 or 2 links in my extra deck and while not used consistently, they are pretty okay when I find an opportunity to bring one out.

"Pendulums are unbalanced!" Links: Allow me to introduce myself Leaving the game faster and more predictable than you have ever seen before and the victory being decided by whoever has to win on rock paper scissors.

My opinion has completely changed on the pendulum mechanic. I used to hate it like everyone else did, but it somehow became my preferred type of deck. Anyways, congrats on getting married.

Pendulums had me sweating when I started back, I hadn’t officially played since Fusions

i remember when this first released and we all started running scrap pendulum and oh boy was it madness XD

I finally decided to learn a pendulum deck and ngl it's not as bad as I thought it was. The way they're set up now is perfect

Ayyyyyye, that boy hitched!! Congrats 🍾

I personally always liked pendulums, and I never really hated a new mechanic in yugioh, until link monsters came...😒 Eventhough pendulums and links are the only ones restricted to linked zones now, the damage has been done since master rule 4. Link monsters are more OP than pendulums ever were and there's no going back now, because they needed to make the link monsters so generic... There are actually some exceptions where I like link summoning like in @ignisters, sky striker or world legacy archetype. But yeah links were the first extra deck mechanic, that actually triggered me...

I was getting back into casual Yugioh a year or so before links got revealed after not really playing since I was younger, and I always really liked pendulums. I think they’re such a cool way to special summon, the fact they were basically a spell and a monster card depending on how you use it was interesting, and it was just so cool to do. I do understand why other casuals didn’t like them, it is kinda overwhelming at first, it made no sense to me when I was got back into it, and it did kinda signal the start of the massive amount of card text to be more common, which can also be a bit much. All in all, I thought they were cool. Also congratulations on your marriage!

"Got married. Really fun. 10/10 would recommend"

I loved pendulums at the start and I still do to this day. I love how they make the main deck choices really matter - they're not just an engine to facilitate extra deck monsters. But also I'm torn between wanting more pendulum subthemes in other decks like what Lunalights and SHS got, and understanding that pendulums take a lot of mental effort to grok and it might not be worth it for only two cards.

I recently tried to get back into yugioh... and I played back when it first came out. And The moment I opened the starter deck I bought. I looked at it and, sure the art was cool... but I never played with it. Because I came back in after all the generations were there... I was overwhelmed and never tried again... the stuff looks overly complicated from a time when I played. Maybe that's my age, but I just don't have the patience to learn the meta of it all... I have recently been listening to lore theories of Yugioh and that has been insane to experience. I knew Yugioh as a cool show about a cool card game based on something called the Shadow Games. And now I learn there is time travel, powering cities with summoning, plane shifting, big baddies being fragmented, and all that has been fascinating to listen to in my free time. Who knew a show about a card game can get so crazy. Anyway, cheers.

I find it funny how back in 2014 the mere thought of the possibility to special summon 5 monsters in turn was considered game breaking, but today we have cards like nibiru, that are counters to excessive summoning. I know the game was much different back then but I just find it funny

Just got back into the game after a 10+ years absence and I can say that Xyz and Pendulums are my favourite new mechanics!

It was pretty frustrating when your opponent pendulum summons the first time. You realize you're in trouble, try everything you can to blow his monsters and scales just for him to end up with a full board of monsters each turn cz his entire deck is pendulum monsters and easily resummoned each turn. "Performapals" "majescepters"

I only ever played a little bit of casual yu gi oh with borrowed decks for fun and only up to synchro summoning made sense at the time but now I play duel links and they recently added pendulum summoning to it and it makes perfect sense. Things are a bit different with the smaller field and character skills but I at least was able to understand something super foreign in a short timespan with the help of how changes are displayed automatically like atk/def boosts and when effects can be used. Link monsters still mystify me to this day tho

Congratulations on the marriage. May time wizard bless you with eternal love

Dzeef, pick a god and pray. This is not about me. This is about the Trif Gaming fanbase. Run.

I’ve always enjoyed pendulum monsters and I was able to learn it pretty easily by watching the anime it’s super fun to use

You hit the nail on the head, Dzeef, those first two reasons are more or less why I stopped playing when Pendulums were released. Just couldn't be arsed. Unfortunately, the long card text problem still exists even outside Pendulums. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Honestly, the more mechanics the game has introduced, the less fun I've found it. I didn't mind synchos as much, since they were kind of intuitive, held on through xyz despite not being the biggest fan of it, but Pendulum was really the point where the game just stopped being fun. It marked the point at which every deck was either an OTK or FTK deck, and the latter being the much more common variant. It was the point where, if you didn't play one of those two types, you had next to no chance at winning; I don't find either type fun to play, and I don't find losing literally every game I play fun either. Maybe that's changed since I last picked up a yugioh deck, I really don't know, but I doubt it. I miss the games where there was a back and forth and things weren't over until your life points hit zero, as opposed to someone summoning half their deck on their first turn and steamrolling over you because they drew their 'I win' card before you and the only hope you have of winning next round is shuffling better so you can get the insta-win hand first.

Pendulum user: I pendulum summon! Opponent: *hates pendulums* Oh for crying out loud! Not pendulums!

Congratz dude and dudette :D

Pendulums was my quit moment way back in the day. I feel like I jumped ship at a decent time, but I do still miss playing TCGs. One day I might return to one of them

I used Nirvana High Paladin in my Majespecter/sychro deck. It really ramped up the OTK potential and extended plays with Wavering Eyes.