E30 M52 Short Gear Linkage Guide [M50 with Getrag g240] Z3 1.9 Shifter Upgrade + New Bushing | 050

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E30 M52 Short Gear Linkage Guide [M50 with Getrag g240] Z3 1.9 Shifter Upgrade + New Bushing | 050
In this BMW E30 build video I explore the options for shift linkages and gearlevers.
With this car being an M52 engine swap build, utilising the Getrag 240 gearbox found on n E30 318is, we're limited on our gearbox shifter linkage and selector rod options.
Here's what I used in this video:
BMW Gearlever Pivot Bushing: ebay.us/o5aHrI
The original shifter linkage that came on this 4-pot 316i E30 originally will not work, despite the fact it was originally equipped with a g240 Getrag gearbox, identical to the 318is one I'm using in case shape.
The reason for this is that it's too long. If you connect up the front of the linkage you will find that the gear lever will sit too far back in the transmission tunnel and won't poke though.
The 4-pot E30 engines are smaller than the 6-cylinder engines, and BMW mounted them slightly further forward in the engine bay, so the box isn't pushed quite as far back in the transmission tunnel as it would be mounted to a 6 cylinder engine.
The M20 6-cylinder engines are as far back as possible, almost touching the firewall to improve weight distribution. The M52 engine is mounted in the same position on it's Condor engine mounts.
So there are two options for shifter linkages in this application.
1. Use what you've got - It's commonly suggested that you can chop the original gear shifter linkage and stick it back together shorter. For the selector rod, this seems fairly straightforward as its made from steel. Once you know how much you need to shorten the linkage, you could shop this section out and weld it back together, using a vice to jig it ensuring its kept perfectly straight.
However, the shift linkage itself poses more of a problem because its made from cast aluminium. Unfortunately I am unable to tig weld aluminium. It's quite a specialist skill using specialist equipment.
Alternatively, there are suggestions of chopping it and connecting it back together with a steel bracket and some rivets. My reservation on this is that it's very unlikely to be as solid as it was as a single piece of aluminium, and I'm building this E30 as a drivers car, so spoiling the shift feel with a Frankenstein linkage seems like a very bad idea.
From my measurements, you'd need to shop 6cm out of the shift linkage and selector rod to get a perfect fit. However this might vary a bit on you build depending on the engine mounts you are using and how far back the engine sits.
2. Use an E30 320i shift linkage and selector rod. Interestingly, the manual 320i E30 also used a Getrag g240 gearbox, but of course paired with the 2 litre 6-cylinder M20 engine. In theory this should be an exact and perfect fit part for an E30 M52 swap using a g240 gear box as its shorter by 6cm from factory.
They are quite hard to come by now, I was lucky enough to pick one up on ebay. Unfortunately, because they are fairly rare it was quite expensive.
However, upon inspecting the sellers images, I noticed that the linkage came with a Z3 1.9L gearlever, which was another thing on my list of mods for this E30. I don't think the seller realised that it was an upgraded shift lever so made no mention of it. These are fairly expensive in their own right, it made the linkage much better value so I pulled the trigger on it.
This is the perfect opportunity to upgrade the shift lever to the Z3 1.9 item as changing the lever in situ is a real pain, or at least it was when I did it on my E46.
There are a few good OEM options for a an E30 gear lever upgrade. Many people use the more aggressive Z4 3.0 or Z3m gear levers which give a much shorter and more aggressive throw. However, the tradeoff for this is a notchy gear change.
The Z3 1.9 shifter on an E30 is said to be the optimal compromise, a shorter throw, but still a positive feeling shift, making the gearbox feel tighter.
When selecting an upgraded shifter for a BMW, its important to pay particular attention to the length below the pivot ball, this is the key factor in changing the ratio of how much the top of the lever needs to move to engage gears. Effectively changing the leverage and shortening the throw.
I showed how to switch the shifter bushing that the pivot ball sits in, I also showed the method of connecting the shifter linkage and selector rod to the gearbox and the E30 chassis. I opted to stick with the rubber bushing rather than poly, hopefully I wont regret this.
Now the shifter linkage is installed on the M52 E30 build, I'm pleased to report that I can shift gears, the 318is gearbox does in fact select all 5 gears + reverse. I can't wait to see how it feels on the road.
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@conor-breathnach
@conor-breathnach 6 ай бұрын
You are just perfectly enough ahead of my swap that you are solving problems I haven’t discovered yet 😂
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Hahaa! Hopefully I will save you a lot of trouble in figuring things out, and you can get your swap done in double quick time. 😁
@conor-breathnach
@conor-breathnach 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH I don’t know about double quick time, but you will definitely help keep it on track!
@shivasewnath6086
@shivasewnath6086 4 ай бұрын
Have the same prob and the driveshaft is to long
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 ай бұрын
@@shivasewnath6086 Check out my prop shaft video for more info on driveshafts. 👍
@karmatose
@karmatose 6 ай бұрын
For what it's worth, if doing this job under the car the best tool for getting that clip off is to use an angled pick. Something kind of in the shape of a U on the end. I made my own tool for this. Just slip it up under the clip, give it a wiggle and it pops right off. It took about 90% of the profanity out of this job.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Haha! Yeah those clips are a real pain, I remember doing a gear lever swap from the top side on my E46 with a pair of long pliers. To this day I don't know how I managed it, but in the end, I got it! Plenty of frustration along the way though. Doing it with no prop shaft or under trays in the way on the E30 was easy compared. I can visualise the custom tool you're describing, great idea! I might have to make one next time.
@CARJOURNEY
@CARJOURNEY 6 ай бұрын
Fellow E30 owner here. I've done an M50 swap on mine and also had to modify my selector rods. Drilling and riveting doesn't keep for long, and I welded it too but not sure if the rods I used was for the incorrect material - but I measured 21.5mm length from each centre point of the lower rod. I had shortened it to size, and squeezed some square steel tubing over the lower rod and welded it. zero issues since. The chassis mount shifters are hard to come by depending where you are in the world - super expensive to get in South Africa where I'm based, and z3 goodies are a challeng too
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Hi mate, thanks for sharing your experience with that. From my research, I found a few instances where people had issues reconnecting the shifter linkage after chopping to shorten. Sounds like you came up with a good technique using that box tube section. A chassis mount shifter sounds good. Let's see how I find the Z3 1.9 shifter before I look too closely into that. They are super expensive here too! 😅
@CARJOURNEY
@CARJOURNEY 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH to DIY my chassis mount shifter I drilled and tapped a thread into the upper selector road and drilled into the trans tunnel, and used a lock nut to secure. Dead solid now and shifts are great but the Z3 gear stick assembly with the longer pivot will work great with that
@polloloci21
@polloloci21 6 ай бұрын
Love your content. I’m doing a manual swap on my 325is. Would love to have a more modern engine but I have a 300tdi that takes up all of my time. 😂
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Cheers, glad you're enjoying it. The M20 is a cool engine in its own way though. Old school. Ahh - you're a Landrover man then. You must be very busy with that. 😂
@alexisnomad1
@alexisnomad1 6 ай бұрын
I am currently busy with this shifter upgrade for an E30 325iX. This job sucks with the transfercase in the way. I am almost jalous of how easy this job is on your car. Love your vids btw.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, you've got an extremely cool car in the 325iX, so it's worth the extra trouble. Hopefully, you have small hands so you can get the job done. 😂 Cheers!
@teopolitis
@teopolitis 6 ай бұрын
You deserve more recognition
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@Pro100Ickpa
@Pro100Ickpa 6 ай бұрын
I could barely stand watching to the end before writing that shifter was installed in the reverse position xD Also you may consider replacing plastic bushing on a shifter to a copper one if yours is a bit worn (which looks so)
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Hahaa! Yeah that took me too long to figure out, but I got there eventually.. 😄 That sounds interesting, which plastic bushing are you referring to? The one on the gearbox side?
@Pro100Ickpa
@Pro100Ickpa 5 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH Actually both should be checked =)
@thejonny5555
@thejonny5555 6 ай бұрын
So happy you spun the shifter round. Was screaming at the TV 😅 another good watch mate 👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Haha thanks man! Yeah, it seemed so obvious in hindsight, but at the time I was somewhat baffled by it's position. 😆 Sometimes you just need to take a step back and think for a minute.
@thejonny5555
@thejonny5555 6 ай бұрын
Keep it coming 👍
@JoshuaStacey782
@JoshuaStacey782 6 ай бұрын
I was about to comment the same thing, so glad you got it spun around in the end
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaStacey782 I got there in the end 🤣 Cheers!
@riadrichedame4356
@riadrichedame4356 5 ай бұрын
hello brother, good for you and too bad I don't understand much English but like cava😅, so what I understood well for fact extment like you it fires me getreg240 gearbox, fly M20 engine, M20 clutch disc, M20 starter too, Z3 1.9L gear lever Asque that's it, thank you in advance.❤
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
Haha who doesn't like sparkling wine? 😆 I'm not totally sure I understand your query, but let me clarify what I'm using here: - Getrag g240 from an E30 318is specifically (longer output shaft) - Lightened M20 flywheel and clutch kit - M20 starter motor - 320i manual shift linkage (it's shorter) - Z3 1.9 gear lever Hope that helps!
@AJDares
@AJDares 6 ай бұрын
Great video been watching this hole e30 playlist hoping that it’ll be the same as me putting my m52b28 in the e36 1994
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, really glad you're enjoying a watch through this E30 build. There are tons of similarities between E30 and E36, not least the engine in this case. So I suspect it will come in handy for you. 👍
@075north
@075north 6 ай бұрын
Amazing timing again! Just yesterday I was scouring the internet trying to find the length of the 320i selector rod to no avail, then here you come today with the exact measurement. Unreal. Have you considered a dual shear selector rod as an upgrade over stock? A DSSR and a new gear selector joint seem to be the biggest upgrades to ensure a tight shifter feel. It appears that the 215mm DSSR for the E30 M3 would work perfectly
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Awesome Johnathan, I knew that measurement would be valuable for people as I'd tried to look it up myself previously and concluded with uncertainty. 😆 Really hope it helps you out! Ahh that's very interesting, I actually didn't know about these DSSRs. I will do some reading into that, it could be a sweet mod to add into the mix down the line. A positive shift feel is a fine thing. Cheers
@MrRockinRein
@MrRockinRein 6 ай бұрын
Great video mate! I was just wondering, why not go for a chassis mounted shifter? In my experience there always will be movement/play with this shifting mechanism.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Cheers! That's a good question, I bet they transform the shift and feel great. I'm not saying I won't change my mind and go for one eventually, but I'm trying to keep this car super simple and OEM+, avoiding any too serious type stuff like a fancy shifter. We will see though, I do change my mind.
@SaulidSnake
@SaulidSnake 6 ай бұрын
Another great video 👌🏻.Quick question where did your dashboard cover from?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it! I actually picked the dash mat up second-hand on FB marketplace for like £60 - it's branded "Shevron". Not to everyone's taste, but I like it, and it hides my cracks for now too. 🤭
@SaulidSnake
@SaulidSnake 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH Ooh thanks, yeh i need to cover my dash cracks up too.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
@@SaulidSnake They're almost all cracked now, even in the UK where the climate is mild. I had a cracked dash in my 318is years ago, added a grey dash mat to match the interior and never worried about it again. I thought it was very cool too, so had to have another for this car. 😁
@johnmason1693
@johnmason1693 5 ай бұрын
Good job Lad......I swapped my 1991 325i auto trans for a manual Getrag 260 five speed from a 1988 325 ETA....do you know what's the difference between the 240 and 260 gearbox.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 5 ай бұрын
Cheers! I think they are quite different, the bellhousing bolt pattern is rotated a few degrees to suit the M20, the ratios are different and some say they are a bit more robust for 6-cyl torque. But then again people seem to rate the 240 fairly well for robustness and it would have done the job fine on an M20. I think there are more details on gearboxes on E30zone wiki if that helps. 😄
@muska0213
@muska0213 6 ай бұрын
Should the z3 short shifter turn 180° then connect to the select rod? The shifter looks leaning forward a lot.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
You're right, if you watch right to the end, I did eventually figure that out and switch it. 😂
@muska0213
@muska0213 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH You got me! I didn't watch to the end🤪🤪🤪. I'm going to watch again.LOL
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
@@muska0213Haha gottcha! 😆
@speedtrapchannel7326
@speedtrapchannel7326 2 ай бұрын
where did you buy the end shifter bushing please 🙏🏻
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 ай бұрын
The black one which is furthest from the gearbox? I reused my original one as it seemed in such great condition. I just painted it black 😃
@speedtrapchannel7326
@speedtrapchannel7326 2 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH ok i found one with a bit of searching 😅 mine was automatique swaping to manual now .. anyway thanks for your time
@mcjjordan
@mcjjordan 6 ай бұрын
I found the hole in the selector shaft in gearbox gets worn and allows side to side movement
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Interesting, I don't remember noticing any slop in mine to speak of but I will bear that in mind if I need to go back and diagnose any slack.
@mcjjordan
@mcjjordan 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH yes its really annoying as i know it will need drilling out & a new pin but cant do that in situ. Also the selector seals are known to leak
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
@@mcjjordan Yeah I definitely should have changed that seal in hindsight. Hope I don't live to regret that! 😅
@selespeed3
@selespeed3 6 ай бұрын
My vibration damper is missing. Is it really necessary?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
Do you mean the rubber guibo between the gearbox and the prop? I don't think you could run without it because I'm not sure the gearbox output shaft flange and the prop shaft flange will mate up properly. I'm not 100% though as I've never tried. I'm figuring out the prop shaft options in detail next so stay tuned for that, sounds like it could be very useful for you.
@selespeed3
@selespeed3 6 ай бұрын
@@SPANNERRASH it is the item you held in your hand at 21:02 in the video. I have been running my car without it for manyu years and seems ok. It is missing or mechanic didn't install back on last time.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
​@@selespeed3 Aha! Yeah I believe you're fine to run without that. A lot of people remove them including me now! I'm not sure all cars got them originally, only some. I thought only 4-cylinder cars to help smooth them out, but I've seen them on 6-pots too. If someone has more detailed knowledge about these hopefully they will comment. :)
@selespeed3
@selespeed3 6 ай бұрын
yes it's fine all along until i go under the car to check and compare that with ETK to confirm it is not there. It goes a little faster without it I think! 🙂@@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 ай бұрын
@@selespeed3 Ideal then, thanks. And yes it should remove some dead weight from the transmission.
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