Planetarium, the word Kat was looking for was Planetarium.

oh also! the line "do you love me? do you trust me?" is a callback to the end of Blade Runner when Deckard goes back to his apartment and finds Rachael!

I love watching Gaius’s face in all his scenes with head six. His eyes just say: “Oh no you’re so evil but you’re so attractive but you’re so evil but you’re so attractive”

My two favorite dads in all of fiction are William Adama and Benjamin Sisko. I didn’t have a relationship with my dad and they fill the ideal in my mind of dads that have many facets including flaws, but fully love and care for their children (even when they fight) and aren’t afraid to be openly affectionate and admit when they’re wrong

Love the Head Six reveal in this. She is NOT a Cylon chip. Gaius is NOT crazy. This episode completely blows both explanations out of the water, and establishes that NEITHER are true. Brilliantly acted too. And you're left wondering... what exactly is Head Six?!

interesting factoid for this episode considering you referenced Blade Runner: this is the first time they call cylons "skinjobs" in BSG (an homage/callback to Blade Runner) and that 4 barrel pistol the guy has that he gives to Sharon is the same 4 barrel pistol model from the beginning of Blade Runner when Leon shoots Holden! And of course EJO is in Blade Runner as Gaff :) :)

I loved Paula’s little delighted clap with “it’s just like a video game! 😃”

I'm sure it's been said before but this show was one of Tricia Helfer's first major acting roles. That just makes her performance in this episode even more incredible. Dripping with talent. ❤

In case you haven't cracked it by now: The map was the constellations of the astrological signs seen from earth. They have to triangulate the stars that are part of these constellations in a way that they line up exactly as seen from earth. This way they will find where earth is. Because whereever they are now those constellations will look completely different. Maybe they are even at one of the stars in them.

Just one thing, Helo is the closest thing to a perfect human being!

I love how the show has got you thinking that an episode with a hyper-tense double-cross assassination is “calm” 😂

"Maybe it wont be so bad..." Always anticipate the worst. That way you're either as prepared as you can be, or maybe even pleasantly relieved.

It's called: a Planetarium, Kat. 👍

If Adama cry's we all cry. So say we all😢

Time for Wednesday morning breakfast with Galifrey Gals Battlestar here in Aus 😀

22:03 It’s like a planetarium that shows you the constellations that match the 12 tribes as seen from here on Earth.

I was fully here for their little ode to Wash Dino play sess. Alan Tudyk would be proud of ya gals.

The writers messed up a little bit with the "and you ask why" bit here, because it's not referencing when he said that to the dead body, but when he asked why humans deserve to live during his speech at the end if the mini series. It's a very easy thing for the audience to mix up, and I have seen a bunch of reactors making the mistake.

I get the distrust for Roslin, but my take is that like Adama, she truly puts the good of the colonies first. She’s not selfish like Baltar or power hungry like Zarek. But Adama is a deeply honorable and forthright person. Roslin is not. She’s a politician. That means she’s willing to lie, cheat and steal if she thinks it’s best for humanity. Look at how the two of them react to her broken promise. To Adama, it almost broke their relationship and he had to rise above it and forgive her. To Roslin, she won’t even apologize because she believes it was for the best for humanity. Which is definitely can be a bit sketchy, but I believe her heart is in the right place.

Re all the speculation re The Tomb of Athena. Speculate away. We all sure did, until our speculators got sore.

So Clap We All!

This is one of my favorite episodes....Thank you ladies💚

The funny thing about prophecy is that it never seems to be what people think in advance.

The star chart scene was a cool and legit way to point the direction. The only constellation Apollo would recognize has to be in the direction of Earth, since that's the direction that the stars' relative position would change the least.

lmfao that intro 😂

This series dives into the mystical, just like the original series did. There were angels & miracles in the original. Gaius, as a symbolic human, is father of the first successful hybrid child. I'm convinced the cave showed a hologram.

It's a "Planetarium."

And that's the turning point of the series, the first time Commander Adama and President Roslin referred to each other as Laura and Bill. Trust regained and strengthened.

🔔 GGs @ 22:20 ➡ ALTERNATE EPISODE TITLE: 🔔 "ROSLIN GETS THE CLAP"

Tricia Helfer, *the* GOAT 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 she’s SUCH an amazing actress.

And next episode we get a new character! Yeet! I can't wait!

Tricia Helfer (Six) nails everything they throw at her. And they do throw so much at her (so much more than anyone else in the show). I can't imagine anyone else in the ensemble performing the role and selling it like she does.

The scene with the constellations is one of my favorites in the whole series. The original series had hints of the common elements with Earth but didn't have the time to follow through with it much. There were scenes at the Egyptian pyramids and the Viper pilot helmets were inspired by Egyptian headdress.

Yes, that was a vision shown to them. The place were you can see all the constellations from.

21:04 Definitely wasn’t expecting an Outer Wilds shoutout, but I’m here for it!

18:31 Wow I just realized what Sharon asked Helo is a quote from the movie Bladerunner. Harrison Ford’s character Deckard decides to run away with the replicant Rachel. He asks her the very same thing “Do you love me?” followed by “Do you trust me?” After that they ran off to try and live happily ever after.

I don't think that Sheron's "And you ask why?" wast reaction to Adama asking dead Boomer, because Sharon didn't knew about her being dead. Which means she didn't get latest update of her memories, she already was running from other Cylons with Helo and Starbuck. I belive it was pointed to miniserie when Adama had that improvised speech before attack, she have memories from that. But it was intentionally cutted to look like she knew that question he asked above dead Bommer's body. Also that cave scene and they apearing on Earth was I belive like some holographic projection. Which mean Earth was known to original Kobolian tribes and they were there before all the tribes leaved it - 12 to new planets an one to Earth. Which also means this projection was hundrets, maybe thousands years old.

Any return to Kobol continues to exact a cost in blood, even if you're joining people who are already there.

Interesting you mention Blade Runner as Adama (Edward James Olmos) was in Blade Runner

This is where Eddie Olmos was against the shipping of Adama and Roslin. "She's a religious fanatic. She's dangerous." This is also where we really start seeing the acting skills of Tricia Helfer and Grace Park. The difference between Sharon and Boomer are subtle but there. And Tricia enjoyed being basically herself for a bit in a ponytail and sweatpants. But did you notice the chair did turn around in the cell when Head Six turned it? Maybe she is something more than a delusion?

As others have said, this episode puts the show on a new trajectory! I also cannot stress enough that you must keep an open mind about the roles of religion and prophecy. This show goes in HARD!! Hahaha!!! I will say everything that happens is earned.

That comment about leading a crowd, he does that when addressing convention audiences as well (or he did a decade ago). Being a part of a "so say we all" chant led by the Commander himself is exhilarating!

I would actually recommend going ahead and watching episodes 10, 11, & 12 together. 10 ends on a cliffhanger (was originally a mid season break) and you get a little bit of closure for the triggering event(s) in 10 at the end of 12. You'll also learn why a certain character in that story arc is the way they are a little better after you watch the movie Razor, though its best left for later on.

Looking forward to watching ❤

Okay, regarding that little recital of the BSG opening titles at the beginning of the video... I almost fell out of my chair laughing. I don't think that's the way the writers heard it in their heads when they wrote the words, LOL! Still grinning as I type this.

Not sure but I think the end credits cartoons were an idea borrowed from Monty Python. Explanation for those not in the know; Before the movies they had a TV series on the BBC called Monty Python's Flying Circus in which they had some short cartoons that were bizarre, which were in between the skits such as the Dead Parrot.

Sharon only has memories of Boomer from up to the War, she accessed those memories to help her prepare for her mission with Helo...

Welcome to the Holodeck.

I love the exchange between Adama and Roslin here because I think it gives context to the previous episode. That moment after talking to Dee while he was standing in the corridor making a decision when Paula was talking about how he’s a good man. I think that was the moment when he forgave Roslin. When he decided to swallow his pride. To admit that he made a mistake regardless of whether Roslin ever admitted to hers. It was a great moment already, but with that context it’s even better.

There are tough emotional moments in life, and there are TOUGH emotional moments. Before you reach the end of this series, it is going to throw moments at you that are the real world equivalent of being hit by a car. Be strong. Press on.

Kat: Planetarium.

I think the many versions of the various Cylon models, but especially Six and Eight (Sharon), gives them a lot of interesting material to play with in terms of Nature vs Nurture. Plus, of course, the many versions of Head Six. It's still hard to believe that Tricia Helfer wasn't even originally an actor, because she handles everything so well. Oh, and I, too, am very much a sucker for an emotional reunion, especially when it's done as well as it was done here.

Another quality second housecat video!

Think we all knew that Kat was going to find the “Starbuck” version of Head6 attractive 😅

Tricia Helfer is so great in this. I think she was doing Starbuck in the Head 6 scene when she put the casual clothes on. It feels like Six was inspired by Seven of Nine... obviously beautiful, but also a great actress. Seven to this day is still a banger of a character.

Gauis, just as soon as he thinks he's out of Six's plan she pulls him back in.

Wait.... I just noticed Kat's Fish earing !!! - that's awesome 😃 Gals from the Dwarf ! Oh... I wonder if Mr flibble is enjoying BSG. his interest seems peaked....

Sharon absolutely does not remember shooting Adama. She only has Boomer's memories up to a certain point so that she could convince Helo that she was the same Boomer when they met on Caprica. Sharon didn't keep getting memory updates up to the point where Boomer died. They both had identical baseline biographical memories to start, but they are separate individuals with different missions, and Sharon is way "off mission" now. The "why" moment is not proof otherwise. It could just as easily refer to Adama's speech from the miniseries prior to the attack or a general assumption about humanity wondering why the Cylons hate them.

An outbreak of common sense this week , only an assassination attempt to spoil the reconciliation , which gave Sharon a chance to show her loyalties - perhaps . The temple was nicely done and Gaius now only has to worry he's just bonkers with no chip in his head . Great performances and I'm really enjoying the reactions gals .

omgggggg its tiiiiiime 💖💖💖

ps Kat, its a Planetarium !! :)

14:08 Aah, the Cylons and the Blubber-Bots... Heh, heh.

The changed names Caprica-Capricorn, Picon-Pisces is not so much a result of translation, but an example of how language changes over time. "Our" constellation names were the original names that evolved over time to what became the names of the Twelve Colonies. For example: Charleston, South Carolina was originally Charles Town. Over the years pronunciation of the city name changed and spelling changed to reflect that. At least, this appears to be the reasoning in the mythos of the show.

The next 5 are great...

I used to say "There are many knock offs"

There’s a bit with Head Six that gets revealed at some point and I can’t remember when but I can’t wait for you to get there (like a few other things that will blow you’re friggin minds)

Okay, regarding the Head Six mystery, let's think it through a little more, with no spoilers but based specifically on what we know at this point. Is Head Six being broadcast to Gaius by a chip in his brain? Nope, that possibility was ruled out in this episode. Is she just a figment of his imagination? Well, she knew about Sharon being pregnant before Gaius did, and told him, so that theory has been seriously undermined. Even Gaius himself says "Sharon being pregnant does suggest that you are rather more than a simple manifestation of my subconscious." Then we have the explanation Head Six herself provides in this episode. "I'm an angel of God sent here to protect you... to guide you, to love you." That actually opens the door to THREE possibilities. The first is that she is exactly what she says she is, an angel of God. The second is that she is some kind of non-human entity other than an angel of God, but passionately believes she is an angel of God. And the third is that she is some kind of non-human entity other than an angel of God, and knows it, and is therefore lying to Gaius about being an angel of God. One can only hope that as the series continues to unspool and more clues drop, it will become possible to further narrow down these possibilities. I'm not going to reveal whether it will or won't. But an important takeaway from this episode is that viewers should at least start thinking more broadly about what Head Six might be and the implications for the overall series plotline.

The missus and I spent a few years meme-ing the last line of the opening text when we saw things go sideways with us or others: "And they have a plan."

Ah, you ladies have just caught on to the connection between this show and Blade Runner. EJO played Gaff, and the term "skinjob" is lifted directly from that movie. ;)

Its weird looking back that the series really kicks offnfrom this point. Theres a strange lull near the end of S1 and the start of S2 that just turns into constant momentum from here onwards.

Sorry this show instills so much stress in you both It IS a roller coaster ride, but as much drama and suffering it can cause there will be genuine beauty that pushes through giving you the hope to continue as much as the characters push through towards their ultimate destination Just remember roller coasters descend into hair raising depths but always rise up again and eventually come to a stop and you’ll realize you survived and you’re safe 😊 Hope you both stick with it Good luck 👍

I hope you're watching Lower Decks right after these, just to get in a better state of mind 😵‍💫

Sharon doesn't remember shooting Adama because they're not the same person. There are the Cylon models but each individual Cylon only shares memories with another if the download them. Sharon has been separated from the other 8's. Wait till you find out what is really going on with imaginary 6, Balter and no spoilers.

Is it me or is Tricia Helfer (as Six in sweatpants) mimicking Sackhoff/Starbuck? also, I'm sure others have mentioned it, the Tomb of Athena must have been some holographic projection.

Kat, was Caprica Sharon referring to "why" in the morgue or to a different time that Commander Adama said why? Hmm, food for thought! Keep watching,...maybe you'll find out.

20:13 is giving me big Guy "Crewman #6" Fleegman vibes

9:26 Well we do find out there is no chip. But eventually we also discover that Baltar isn’t insane either. Head Six is something altogether different. Wait until you find out the final reveal of these angels. LOL

It was a hologram, Paula.

This reminds me of the struggles I went through when I started dating the cybernetic clone of my friends former girlfriend who shot my father figure. Hey what relationship doesn't take work.

So the tomb/planstarium showed earths perspective of the constellations. If they find a planet with the sky showing those constellations, they've found earth

13:37 I dont think Sharon "remembers" shooting Adama because at that point Sharon was already on her Helo mission. When she tells Helo "I remember all of it" she means up to the point where Boomer left Helo on Caprica because thats the information she needed for her mission. She would have accessed Boomer's past, but since then theres been no way for her to have accessed Boomer's present and certainly not her future. As she told Roslin last episode, she's "not plugged in" Like... If she doesnt "remember" Boomer dying, why is it assumed that she would "remember" the events leading up to her dying?

I'm not going to let out spoilers here, but in a few weeks time, you're going to change your minds forever about a particular character. There's also another character you'll start warming up to.

Paula mentioned a TTRPG live play that she's involved it, but failed to adequately plug it. Can anybody tell me what it is or where to find it? Also, sick Outer Wilds reference - it really did feel like that.

A planetarium

I genuinely thought the SA mentioned was The Farm ep or another ep, so I looked it up and when I saw a picture of a specific character I got angry. That is going to be rough.

6:01👂Darmok

Tricia Helfer is an amazing actress. If you want to see her do some more great work check her out as the mother of the devil in Lucifer.

Hiya fracking gals 👋🏻 Great show & reactions as always 😺😀👍🏻👍🏻 🚀🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖 See you gals next week….”So say we all” 🫡 🇬🇧🤝🏻🇺🇸

Regarding the difficult-to-watch scene in upcoming Season 2 Episode 10: Yes you may want to give yourself a break after seeing it. But I also suspect that when the episode ends you will want very much to move on immediately to Episode 11 and possibly Episode 12 after that. So whatever your intentions may be, I suggest you not put yourself in a situation where you won't even have the option of watching them back-to-back.

Outer Wilds?! Don't get me wrong, I love your ongoing reactions to this fantastic show, but I heard Paula mention The Outer Wilds and I have to know more, please.

I am so curious how you're going to react to certain reveals down the road lol

One thing you will start to notice by now in Battlestar Galactica is the mother/father pairs. There is the obvious one being Sharon and Helo who are the parents of a child who is literally the future of two species. The next one is Adama and Roslin and they are the symbolic parents of the human fleet for one controls the military and the other controls the government. Finally there is Six and Gaius, they are the spiritual parents because their actions, by the waxing and waning of their love, are clearly ushering in a new future for both humans and Cylons- had Gaius not given the defence codes to Six and had Six not given them to the Cylons, then the Cylons surprise attack would have failed meaning Sharon and Helo would not have encountered each other, and their child would not have happened. Thus the child is the consequences of their, Gaius' and Six's, actions and they are its symbolic parents. In later seasons you may discover one final mother/father pair- though that one has MAJOR spoilers so I shall keep my frakking mouth shut.

I think the show does a great disservice to the viewers in not clearly defining upfront how certain cylons have the memories of other cylons given the show is trying really hard to establish that each cylon is an individual with his or her own memories and identity. There are partial hints given throughout the show, and an episode in a later season does explain some of it via a similar situation. But, I've watched the show many times through, and I still have questions re: Sharon having Boomer's memories, particularly memories that seem recent.

"This is not episodic." Well................................................ By the Gods I wish that were true. It's mostly true. But thanks to behind the scenes arm twisting by the suits at the Sci-Fi Channel it's not. There are 6 (?) episodic stories in the rest of BSG because the Network demanded them. One of them is excellent. One is passable. But the other four are cringe worthy. I won't say where they pop up but you will know it - and feel it - when you get to them. The network was of the mind there needed to be 'jumping on' points for new viewers. In their minds viewers could watch a one and done story, see it resolved at the end of the episode and appreciate it without the need to catch up on a boat load of lore and back story. Unfortunately the conflict set up in a one and done paled in comparison to the beautifully woven conflicts that have been set up so far. It would be great if you could just skip them. But even in the clunkers there are seminal moments important to the over all story that can't be skipped. With luck you won't hate them. On the other hand, this is one of THE brilliant episodes in all of BSG. And the episode that made me fall completely in love with the show. The tomb scene slapped me in the face. Punched me in the gut. Left me laying on the floor smiling in sheer bliss for all the mystery and wonder that was set up in this episode. One of the to 10 episodes of BSG! With many more to come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -Did I mention how much I love watching you two watch this show??

Don't know if they actually went to earth in a physical sense. But they were shown a view of the night sky from earth. Kobol isn't earth.

You're at the 5:15 mark going forward.

You have to do the original Battlestar Galatica :)

7:45 I don't know what it says about me, but how is Six hotter in sweats and ponytail than naked?

Finally got to see Trisha real hair. During season 1 makeup over proccessed her hair to the point it was falling out. Season 2 they switched to a wig.

So!! Did anyone make the banana split cake from last episode's comments section? Raise your hands! 😏