big request...Eckhartsladder fixes the battle of Exegol, he can replace the superweapons and the location but the principle must remain the same...Palpatine has an army of superweapons or a single superweapon and a citizens fleet gathered by Lando or Poe ends up stopping it

Do great with galactic versus video keep it up

Reven vs vader Separatists vs first order in all out war

One Xenomorph vs Princess Leia and Crew of the Tantive 4

UNSC vs Rebel Alliance in all out war.

Your not wrong.

@João Piza Youre'ren't*

@DU Lee você não está

So...(sigh).... Pros and Noobs?....

@@GenericProtagonist118 Can 16,000 Silvers beat 3,000 Grand Masters?

The Chad Republic vs The Virgin Misfits

The chad Admiral Yularen vs the virgin resistance admirals.

@@toby1061 admiral holdo has nothing on Yularen 😉

I am incredibly biased against pretty much *anything* from Disney Canon, so I prefer the clones.

The Chad Prequel Trilogy vs the Virgin Sequel Trilogy.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahanahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂

LMFAO

For the republic!

You mean literally almost millions of ships many of which had weapons?

@@charliem6467 did you watch the video? 16,000 ships at the VERY most and that’s already being considerate, only 300 of which could go 1v1 with a venator, that being the various Mon Cal cruisers such as the MC95. Vs 5000 Venators that held 420 fighters each, had pilots and crew that were literally bred for war, and on top of that a couple hundred newer ships such as the ISD and Victory class, and possibly a couple mandator class super star destroyers. Looking at galaxy fleet composition, only the bigger MC models and frigates were capable of carrying fighters, and most ships were just converted civilian freighters and older model ships not to be used in military action. Example: the Pelta class was present, despite already being outdated by the time of the clone wars and even in a 20 to 1 advantage against a Venator would not be able to win.

I definitely agree if they just deployed horses and men on the top of each venator they would win no problem

They could win with finn and his 'just a feeling', no ships required.

The resistance fleet has Rey. She'll just use 2 lightsabers and destroy them all!

In fact all the horses were force sensitive clones. They released them from Palpatine's underground stable. That's why tilting the ships wouldn't have worked.

@@OxxotrOxxotro them being force sensitive clones is now legends. In Canon each and every horse was a death star, with special force and spacetime warping glasses so that the entire galaxy can watch with naked eyes when they are fired.

??? Well not all of the resistance ships or ships in general would be that old per say tho it is a mishmash of ships from all over. The Republic ships by the time of the new trilogy would be 60 something years old in the timeline.

@@acendantoverlord5737 I think we are looking at each fleet when they had their debut in each movie, so technically the Republic would still have the advantage.

@@acendantoverlord5737 Technology advances slow in star wars, so I don't think there's much of a tech gap between the fleets

@@pixeltcat I definitely agree the Republic wins but it still doesn’t change the fact that from the resistance’s perspective their fighting 60 something year old ships and while “some” of the Resistance ships are “newer” and a little more advanced. Like Eckhart said MC90’s I think? Are probably a little superior to Venators and resistance star fighters also have shields while Republic Starfighters didn’t, to my knowledge tho I could be wrong? Their “Debut” doesn’t change the fact they are from two different time periods.

@@acendantoverlord5737 The Mon Cala ships are actually MC 95s, and Republic fighters did have shields, otherwise you make a valid point.

Lmfao. That is a dumb take.

Exactly lmfao

well unshielded, and no high ground, not to mention fancy super Lazer heavy guns don't shoot up, its kinda reasonable

But they have horses

@@charliem6467 how is that a dumb take it’s literally true there should have been no way he lost but no fucking Disney thought that’s palps should announce himself to everyone basically fucking himself

It is so sad to see “fans” treat such an amazing scene like this.

I wish they added more ships from all eras of Star Wars for the Galaxy Fleet

@@hell2gophone true

@@hell2gophone they likely didn’t have the assets and they were pressed for time

@@charliem6467 I'm sorry hitting ctrl c isn't amazing or creative

Like how did Lando get a bunch of people to come but frickin Luke’s sister ( I know who she is I just forgot how to spell her name) not get a fleet in the last Jedi!?

Republic capital under attack* all reinforcements are contacted and take some time to get there. Exogol: hey so there's this sith fleet. *everyone has joined the battle* Me: that doesn't make sense or the logic is flawed

@@frog6375 The way Luke, Palpatine, Chewbacca Leia, Han and Ackbar were treated by the writers was almost criminal.

@@kyleabrezzi Lol. We got this POWERFUL fleet made up of cutting edge, world-ending Destroyers but... They can't go up.

Let's not forget the giant plot hole from last jedi where Leia calls for help and no one comes.

So you are literally whining about how Galaxy fleet has more ships?

@@a_balloon the galaxy fleet will win

The galaxy fleet will wiln all the way

@@Alverymartin.banshee Not really, since "it's just people" and half of them probably never served an army

@@Alverymartin.banshee everybody gangsta until plot armor don't work on good guys

Me too because I despise the sequel trilogy

same, also cause the republic is cooler

I kinda think it would be a draw/tie

im rooting for the republic because you are taking apart its roots which will kill it

@@battledroidcommander234 roger roger

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We don't have definite numbers for the Eternal Fleet. It should be noted though that the Star Forge Battle in KOTOR was also large according to secondary media, with more than 1000 ships on each side.

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Resistance Officer: "All Deserters will be sho- wait where's the guy who shoots deserters?" The guy who shoots deserters: "I'm not payed enough for this shit, dasvidanya!"

​@CT-2307 but that the thing fighters many many if count let say min 1k vent and again there *more thousands most likely more but let say 1k vent alone.. 484 planes which include example 34 arc 170 192 v wings and 192 light inter so let say min of 200 planes just alone that is 200k planes.... give or take... now add real amount fighters not ground ones space 420 planes not included Clone Z-95 Headhunter since not really amount but know alot.. so for now just put 420x1000 is 420k... planes... so image thousands lol yah 16k total ships vs all of them but yes ik there bigships which bit more avd but still vents could hold iy own with planes so in the end Coruscant just out beats the fleet just because pure fighters and vents which all train clones mind you and fully battle war ready.. now them vs 10k star destroyers i would even know but if put my money then they would win also let say 10k vents vss 10k star destoyers is 4.2m figters haha which its my be an x ray but those still meant fight ships like vents so yah my mind go on them also unless includes other fleet enteral empire then unfair both sides.. just pure mass and avd tech

Mon Cals are more tanky than firepower output. And Venators needed several 800m crusiers to be effectivly matched for firepower. Not to mention the Ventaor being a litteral carrier. Non designed for ship to ship. No you mean not optimised for ship to ship. They are allround cruisers in their role. They in legends at least has an absurdly good PD array.

@@OrDuneStudios if anything the one thing the venator was more for broad side fighting and seeing how the clone wars was basically inspired by ww1 frontal assault tactics I think the republic fleet would def had mighty balls of beskar to go face to face with no fear and tho idk if it’s canon but we did see it as a cutscene on the battle of kamino in battlefront 2 recent game the venator had a mini laser on the under belly of the ship ( palpaltine really like big microwave guns ) also In the battle seeing as how they had Finn going full Valhalla moment charging in with horse I’d the clones would also have the minds to board the enemy fleet like they did in the original cartoon adaptation of the clone wars as well also if u remember the battle scene of grievous leading his ships into a asteroid ring the clone ( anakins idea really) to use the at te walkers as gun platforms as well since those walkers have magnified feet and are air tight sealed so I would give to the clones to use everything they have aboard a single venator to fight to the last man FOR THE REPUBLIC!!

as i said in literally every reply venators are cargo carriers and clones are jango fett rip off

@@battledroidcommander234 They are mixture of battleship and a carrier/ ya they were cloned and train since birth to have kill in combat/ they were made to kill jedi

Ah EAW... *fun times,* if only you used more than one cpu core... I’m upgrading my cpu for you... UwU...jk for the uwu.

I play the game guys

As someone who’s played the EaW RaW (Republic at War) mod, I can safely say the way I win is just by dropping a super star destroyer on top of their heads and letting it soak the hits while a dozen assorted smaller SDs jump in and shoot everything that’s not them

I agree but counter argument: a group of nebulon B OP as fuck

Even with fewer ships, with enough discipline and communication the republic could win

The Amount Of Venators with this many star fighters. Sheesh!

venators are cargo carriers and clones are jango fett rip off

@@battledroidcommander234 Then why did the droid army lost?

plot armor

@@battledroidcommander234 roger roger

Always of course

@@davidordaz5251 I meant the Venator is more of a carrier than a battleship and having more Starfighters is better than big ships. Real world example WWII US aircraft carriers.

It's fun! I really missed eck's vs series. It's why I first subbed to him

@@paulsteinhauser434 you have a point having more starfighters gives you more of a advantage

@@moosiemoose1337 I don't have a problem with that. I forgot 7-9 and wrote my own story....that is actually a story.

There's not even one memorable though.

Well there was the pelta class

It was already in rebels

@Evan Scammell That's how CGI works

@Evan Scammell they were in a time crunch. also who tf cares

The "I am one with the Force, and the Force is with me" scene turned any sense of the battle's grit into cheese.

The only thing that was scarier than Vader was the dark troopers with their score

Rogue One was brilliant. I know The Mandalorian is supposed to be it’s own story but I hope we see a massive space battle that gets screen time, maybe at the end of Season 3 we could see a massive battle between Mandalorian’s and the Imperial Remnant above Mandalore. Would be amazing to see.

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Yeah, 5 venator-class star destroyers are well thought out and interestingly designed and hundreds of different ships, all unique in their own ways is a discount endgame finale.

@@Erolsaurus i think he refered the galaxy fleet as endgame discount finale

It's wild how formulaic that ending was. I'd be surprised if these are not written by some AI in some hidden backroom.

The Exegol fleet totally isn’t composed of ships designed for previous eras before hand or anything

@@Erolsaurus yeah well at least the venator was something new when it first went on screen and not hand me downs from actually good star wars

Hello there

@@davidvasquez08 GENERAL KENOBI!

@@kelvinli9491 Obi-wan Kenobi-wan

@@kelvinli9491 you are a bold one...

@@DecarsOFD Your move...

The only damage the freighter can do is throw its supplies at the venator

he was only counting republic warships, if he included sepi warships the fight would of been over twice as fast

Lord Nagant Yeah if he was counting Separatist ships alongside Republic ships, he’d have to include First a Order/Sith Eternal ships with the galaxy fleet to be fair

yes

@@SamSalsa411 So? They were unshielded imperial ones with large super lasers that they can't use yet. They would die in a storm of vulture droids.

@@wilberdebeer4696 you'd just see thousands of buzz droids sawing off the lasers

When the Cartoon has better Space Battles than the high Budget movies... Stargate also Had quite some nice Space Battles, I Always Loved how Dynamic they looked

Also what about the xyston Star destroyers!? They’d been hyping up palpatines fleet for the whole movie, and in the final battle, the star destroyers literally sit there, shoot, and have the ties do all the work while the galaxy fleet rips them apart.

Pretty much. Frankly, all the battles in the Sequels were really underwhelming to me. Particularly when you watch Rogue One's space battle and could see some of the overall tactics being used. The only sequel that you could was TLJ. But they were such DUMB tactics they hurt...

@Ruosong Gao they wanted to do a new ship model for the xyston but they ran out of time to develop a new custom model which takes quite a bit of time to complete

@@bencoomer2000 I'm pretty sure eck did a video on it but (a comparison) but both the republic and empire also made dumb tactical decisions. It's not just a sequel trilogy thing. But it also kinda shows that no matter how powerful a faction is, you always have incompetent leaders who dont always make good decisions. And although I kinda agree that the sequel trilogy didn't have overwhelming space battles. Compared to the ot and pt, the sq was able to do better graphics and cgi which was a plus compared to the more limited trilogies

Well how does that work? The republic would have lost almost every battle depicted in the clone wars show if it wasn’t for anakin and the jedi. So take them out of the equation. And the republic is really exposed

finally i found someone who thinks republic would lose

@@charliem6467 > the republic is really exposed what does that mean?

@@comradekenobi6908 they are at a serious disadvantage and lack serious strat.

@@charliem6467 Stop trying to defend the Resistance would clearly lose Jedi or no Jedi.

Yea he apparently completely forgot that

630k most of which carried missiles and anti ship munitions. No flak defence is going to stoo that.

Clones pilots playing the immigrant song while having a field day fighting civilians , man

venator is cargo carrier and clones are jango fett rip off

did you forget that the resistance probably has hundreds of anti-starfighter ships and their mon calamari cruisers would frick the venator star destroyers anyway

Ok

No, the republic would fall. The republic has like, 1 Imperator or something. If they had a Mandator or any Star Dreadnoughts, then they would've shown it in Revenge of the Sith, but they DIDN'T. Therefore the Mandator is in another part of the galaxy altogether or just doesn't exist. The first order had a Mandator IV, the Resistance killed it. They didn't even have full support of all ships in the galaxy then! Plus the Resistance has a lot of MC cruisers and the support of some of the best pilots in the galaxy. They have the millenium falcon, a ship that has been proven to survive Imperial-IIs, so a much weaker ship like the Venator wouldn't suffice. The Resistance have B wings that can destroy star destroyers. Also, some resistance ships (e.g Corellian Corvette) are designed for anti-fighter combat. 5,000 ships? The resistance have like 1 billion at least, lol.

@@Erolsaurus dude that’s just plot armor if the millennium falcon actually took a couple turbo laser hits it would be done and imperial II’s don’t have anti fighter and small ship weapons anyway, also we don’t see nearly all the shi that were at coruscating in the movie there were allot of ships there that we only saw a little bit of, so just cuz they didn’t show a victory or tector it doesn’t mean those ships weren’t there, we only saw a very small snippet of the battle. did u not hear eck talk about how they don’t show everything on screen and how the republic most likely had a few victory’s, tectors, and imperators. And the ventators also have 100s of advanced fighters and bombers which would prob shred through any of there ships, and around 400 fighters being held in a single venator uno, and seriously you don’t actually think there was ‘1 billion’ ships at all, like seriously there was approximately 16000 ships and most of them civilian ships from a gud portion of the galaxy. And the few hundred or so mc ships of varying quality and model were only a small amount of the mostly barely armed civilian ships, and with the thousands of venators, 100s of frigates, heavy and light cruisers, and a handful of victory’s, tectors and imperators, and not to mention the thousands upon thousands of republic fighters with all of them coordinating together and using tactics, strategy while all being under a command structure aswell would be much more organized than a around 16000 mostly barely armed civilian ships and the few hundred or so mc ships mostly all uncoordinated and just shooting the enemy randomly, I think the republic would win, and yes the exegol fleet would definitely dew a big chunk of damage but not enough before they get shredded.

@@Erolsaurus dude did u read his comment at all? The republic has a bit over a million fighters which can shred the entire exegol fleet I don’t think a ca-90 could have any chance of surfing the swarm of y wings and heavily shielded fighters and interceptors, also no offense but o think u should seriously learn about republic ships

>The capital of the galaxy would be guaranteed to possess Star Dreadnoughts. We don't see any. >The Exegol Fleet would only have fighter complements on a fraction of their ships Not all of their starfighters need to be carried in, miniturisation of hyperdrive technology made hyperspace-capable snubfighters way more common by the time of the Battle Of Exegol.

Yup

star wars makes no sense, also you're not funny

@@Erolsaurus Idk man, don’t think he was trynna be funny,

@@craacksteeve1640 Everyone know that haters are pretentious babies.

@@TheRezro And the Sequels defenders (the few that are) even more because they know they're wrong but can't admit it.

A Venator has a fighter compliment of 420 fighters and bombers. I'm not sure how many of each type. Here is a comment from Ted-71tallica: "I know the Republic wins, you only glossed over the star fighters which would actually be one of the deciding factors. I am going to go with a conservative 1500 Venator SDs there, and just count their fighter complement only not including the fighters of the reinforcement fleet ships of different classes. The Venators have a complement of 420 star fighters of various types. I'm not going to break down the raw numbers by type, but in total with just the 1500 Venators you have 630,000 star fighters. Say you only send out 10% of those as an attack force you still have 63,000 star fighters and those alone would wreak any of the smaller ships of the Galaxy fleet, then the fighters and capitol ships just mop up what's left . That is the one thing they never showed properly about the Venators , their fighter complement is deadly . Even in the 3 ship battle groups you see in Clone Wars that is 1260 star fighters."

Hello there

General... Send the separatist leaders to the mustafar system.

@@sheevpalpatine8136 It will be done my lord

wdym "weak" its the galaxy's equivalent of USA

Highly trained military with robust command and control methods Meanwhile with the G fleet: Lerrrrrrooooyoy Mmmmm Jenkins

@@OrDuneStudios the clones to would imploy using the walkers as gun platforms like they did in the cartoon adaptations so i would say the clones boarding the galaxy fleet but like a speed run on steroids

I think it depends on the circumstances. If you combine the basic scenarios of Exegol and Coruscant together (Resistance has surprise attack from above while Republic is defending a planet in-atmosphere/low orbit and both sides get very close very quickly), then most of the Republic's advantages go out the window. Training and discipline can't do you a whole lot of good if you're being shot at from 12 different directions and don't have cover. What the Republic would need to win this is space and time - the ability to break the Resistance fleet into chunks and deal with them one at a time, the ability to rest and resupply, the ability to use terrain (asteroids and the like) to their advantage, the ability to use their fighters at long distance to weaken the enemy, the ability to degrade the Resistance's morale over time until parts of it abandon the fight. In the Exegol/Coruscant scenario, they have none of that - unless the Resistance's morale breaks, the battle comes down to which side is able to score more hits, and that's probably the side with a 3-to-1 or better numbers advantage. (Especially since the Venator is not a substantially better ship than the Resistance's heavier ships - if they could barely scratch it this would be a cakewalk, but the Galaxy Fleet is full of ships that are at least as good as a CIS Munificent frigate.) Think of it this way: A team of well-trained soldiers with guns can definitely take on a zombie horde if they have space, time, cover, high ground and room to move around. But if they soldiers start off in the same room as the zombies and have no way to escape, they are essentially doomed -- they physically cannot score kills fast enough to defeat the enemy before they take significant casualties themselves and lose most of their fighting ability.

So I guess you just dont like the Star destroyer in General huh, since its basically the same ship from the OT with a big gun at the bottom

@@michaelramon2411 well your forgetting the millions of star fighters the republic has. No matter how superior your fighter is, your gonna get beat by like a 20 to 1 star fighter duel

How exactly did he get what looked like half of the ships in the core in what I will assume is a few days?

@@OutspokenSeeker lol they had like two days. You probably couldn't gather people from two space stations in that time

@@OutspokenSeeker the only problem is that all of episode 9 is meant to take place within 16 hours and lando getting all the ships within only a few hours, which is a bit unrealistic

@@warrengouldthorpe5091 right? Imagine having to convince all those people who weren’t exactly enthusiastic about fighting the first order to try and hand together in an unorganised pack to attack the biggest collection of manned and armed imperial destroyers seen in decades. It’s an impossible feat.

@@warrengouldthorpe5091 maybe Lando convince everyone to join the battle and overthrow Palpatine since he brought oppression since the clone wars ended and Empire rise to power

Agree

me too

Yes I agree, but for the republic

I want a star wars game where you sneak into a scrap yard and hijack a to be destroyed lukrehulk battleship and upgrade the ship as a mobile base for your fighters and larger ships

Resurgent wins :/

@CSO Class Supercarrier Halo The Fall Of Reach i agree, if we are working off of the numbers given (1000 turbolasers or whatever + kyber crystal tech)

@CSO Class Supercarrier Halo The Fall Of Reach I agree

Thrawn easily. The Shadow Collective had like two Gozantis at most. Thrawn had a fleet of Star Destroyers.

It’s not even a contest. Thrawn being insanely smart plus the size of the fleet it would be a slaughter

how about mauls shadow collective vs jabba the huts empire

@@griffindenomme706 actually yeah that would be better

Thrawn, maybe. He clearly outclassed or completed with the best of the Republic Generals, but then there are Jedi generals The republic would have a bigger fleet with more fighters and better disciplined soldiers, but lesser technology (to a degree) The Imperial fighters were utter , but the star destroyers and even corvettes can fight better than venators.

This is where the fun begins.

then its an even fight all ships fire at will, burn their mongrel hinds

Spaarti clones and hidden KDY contacts. It's heavily explored in the books.

It might have been forgivable if there was actually a fight between the 2 groups. But there was nothing. Just some star destroyers being star destroyed and a big lightning storm. Huge waste of time and CG

I think the galaxy would’ve not forget him tho seeing as many grew old would have the fear to push them but these are the goddamn clones bruh FOR THE MF REPUBLIC

The galaxy fleet would retreat once enough of there ships get destroyed

This is why I feel like around 4 million clones would have not been enough, that would mean around 2/3 of the entire clone army would have been crewing ships at fighters at corusant

They had the signal from Luke's x-wing

@@davidkippy101 The Resistances CR90 corvette following the map seemed barely fit but somehow thousands of ships of similar or drastically bigger size have absolutely no issue even though the came all at once

@@masonkiefer1222 they have enough firepower to destroy the red space tumor

The Covenant will wipe those heretics from the face of the Galaxy!

I'm not sure that's a compliment to Star Wars. The thing you most like about itis that it's like something good? Harsh.

@@cioplasmmajic8327 dude that was an AWESOME scene in ME3. 😎

@@cioplasmmajic8327 and sure ep 9 was flawed but it wasn’t 100 % bad.

@@cioplasmmajic8327 I still prefer Lucas’s script though

@@Steel-101hmmmmmm Lucas's script.... Only thing I didn't like about it was Darth Talon being Darth Mauls's apprentice.....

Yeah I'm sure hundreds of capital ships including Mon Calamari ships, Nebulon Bs and Corellian Corvettes would fail against 5 venator-class star destroyers that are optimised for anti-starfighter weaponry.

@@Erolsaurus you mean more than 1000 venator star destroyer out of prob 1000 other starships controlled by the best officers of the repubkic with a full war of experience and future imperial officer as well as maybe a millions of fighters and boarding ships since these have huge carrying capacity. Also not forget the clones that work there raised from birth to be warriors. Against A bunch of people that use slow ass bombers...

@@jumperwilli7770 Let's not forget that one is just a crowd of people with just a few ships actually designed for war and no coordination or strategy that could help them againts a full war navy with some of the greatest soldiers specifically created and trained for a galaxy wide conflict and having a wide variety of strategies designed by their best tacticians, not counting the jedi generals that are also fighting that can attack the great ships from inside