Elevate Your Zwift HUB Experience With The E-Flex Plus by InsideRide

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9 ай бұрын

This trainer season is all about movement and InsideRide aims to shake things up, quite literally, by adding movement to the Zwift Hub bike trainer. This E-Flex Plus by InsideRide is designed specifically for the Zwift HUB, and lets your bike tilt, rock, and respond to your input.
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@garrysansoucie 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review! I actually just ordered one last night so seeing your take on it, is very reassuring!

@garrysansoucie 9 ай бұрын

I should add, mine will be for the Kicker and not the Zwift Hub,

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Nice. Enjoy 👍👍

@willlehrfeld457 9 ай бұрын

Great review, thank you. Thanks for the shirt link as well, i thought it was pretty cool too.

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Happy you like the shirt and enjoyed the video 👍👍

@toddtannenbaum7092 9 ай бұрын

Nicely done review on an interesting product, sure is a lot more compact than my Saris MP 1 ! Thank you for all the time/effort you put into these videos.

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Glad you found this video interesting. Appreciate your support!

@ShawnIsBatman 9 ай бұрын

Another awesome review, thank you! I absolutely just found my next purchase before the indoor season here in the US is upon us! Like you, I have owned Inside Ride rollers for years and yes, they are absolutely amazing, however, they are rollers and don't really conform to all of the indoor riding scenarios. I switched to the Zwift hub several months ago, this will definitely be my next purchase!

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Awesome. Would love to hear your thoughts once you get yours. Enjoy 👍

@marklyons4366 7 ай бұрын

Got one of these for the Kickr Core and I love it so far. Really improves comfort and compliance.

@SmartBikeTrainers 7 ай бұрын

Awesome. Thanks for sharing 🙏🏼

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great review. The close feel between the E-Flex and motion rollers is a key detail I value. In the span between rigid trainers and motion rollers, I feel like the E-Flex Plus hits about 80% of that motion roller feel (and related benefits to comfort and riding involvement) without the associated risks you mention in extremely hard efforts (and recoveries). The adjustment range suits everyone from those wanting minimal lean action to the other end (like me) who want a very active motion seated and standing. That and the other benefits make this my favorite bike trainer motion option.

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience Chad with the E-Flex and appreciate your contribution here as well 🙏🏼

@sportstv2275 9 ай бұрын

Love ur shirt bro 😎

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

This is the shirt if you would like to get your own 😎 cottonbureau.com/p/KJQDDG/shirt/erg-on-cycling#/13275608/tee-men-standard-tee-vintage-navy-tri-blend-s

@BigMeanyVids 9 ай бұрын

Like it. Highly considering it but wish it was just $600 delivered as already a bit hard to justify for myself at that price.

@GoustiFruit 9 ай бұрын

I would be interested if the price was around maybe $300. That would also interest a lot of potential buyers. But at the current price, they probably can only sell to people with a lot of money in their pockets and don't know what to do with it.

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Yes I hear you on the price. It’s definitely a premium accessory and depends on the individual preferences and how much value it brings to their indoor setup.

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

With respect to price, this is right in line with the many other rocker plate options sold around the world that offer leaning & fore-aft motion. These are still small scale production in most cases, and there is a bit of a premium there. Some other less expensive options exist, but they often lack the same functions (lean only) or you can head down the DIY path for less money as long as you have tools and willingness to do the work.

@FTWinnick 8 ай бұрын

What tension setting do you have it set at at the 6:20 mark?

@gerbryf 9 ай бұрын

This looks brill and an improvement over the other options. Is it available in Europe/UK? Just a few thoughts... Cost is a problem, especially if you've invested in rocker plate already (I have a cheap one but it works great). Paying this much would hurt. Does it need to cost as much? Not sure about missing the 4th bolt. It obviously takes some weight at the front, is there a possibility of the front plate bending/twisting over time? It would look bad if you were to fit the original legs and they were misaligned! Thanks for the great video!

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

"Does it need to cost as much?" - As a person working in manufacturing with similar materials and process, I think the pure cost of materials and labor make sense with the pricing. Outside of that, there is more to pricing products that cost of goods and services. It's all part of the fun 'Econ' world with supply and demand as a large factor, but more at play. Regardless of the above, when you compare the price of this E-Flex Plus to other options, I see this as very reasonable and competitive. - Saris MP1 is $950 USD right now and it offers the same basic motions while totally lacking any adjustability. - Wahoo Kickr Move is $1600 USD which is a $300 premium over the $1300 Wahoo Kickr that lacks the fore-aft motion. - Tacx Neo Motion Plates are $300 USD ($200 on sale right now) for the same additional motion as the Kickr Move. - And if you price against other rocker plates from smaller makers, they are all around $600 USD or more for dual-motion. - All of those other options above lack any steering connection that's part of the E-Flex Plus. With that all in mind, I see the E-Flex Plus as not only fair, but a bargain since it offers more features and benefits than any of the options I have seen and tried.

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

"is there a possibility of the front plate bending/twisting over time?" - Not a concern IMO. The Hub frame is welded steel plate and tube. It is stronger than needed for the normal use case (design/safety factor) and I don't see the off-center load here being much of an issue.

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

"Is it available in Europe/UK?", - Sadly it's not easy or cheap from what I've heard. The Inside Ride shipping page gives some 3rd party options, but they seem to be cost prohibitive from the few people I've seen mention it.

@PureNRG2 9 ай бұрын

I like the smaller footprint compared to my full size fore-aft rocker plate. But I wouldn’t be able to use my Smart Sterzo with this setup.

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

Indeed, the low stack height and small size are big benefits that aren't always recognized when comparing this to other rocker plates.

@jareou 9 ай бұрын

Oh brother. Now have to decide between kickr move or this. What's your opinion on the 2.

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

With the Move, you are getting a KICKR which is a superior trainer than the HUB in many ways. So if you are between the two, I would go with the kickr.

@RobertLendvai 9 ай бұрын

Winter is coming so I jumped on the Kickr for an hour last night. Reminded me how miserable indoor training is vs riding outside. 👋🏼

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Lucky for me, I live in an area where indoor riding is 14 months out of the year :)

@stacymatthews3022 8 ай бұрын

I have my zwift hub set up in my basement which has a low ceiling. Can you tell me about how much this raises the height of the bike?

@SmartBikeTrainers 8 ай бұрын

Based on my own measurements, currently the hub legs put the HUB about 4 centimeters of the ground. The InsideRide sits about 7.5cm. Hope that helps.

@stacymatthews3022 8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ksprt 6 ай бұрын

Also compatible with Zwift Hub One ?

@SmartBikeTrainers 6 ай бұрын

Yes it is compatible with the HUB One

@alejandro.a.m 9 ай бұрын

Is the E flex Plus a new accessory in the market or it was already available to buy for months ??

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

It wasn’t released today if that’s what you are asking. It has been selling on their website for a few months.

@alejandro.a.m 9 ай бұрын

@@SmartBikeTrainers ahh ok I didn’t know this accessory; I see that is also available for the WAHOO CORE, right ?? The good point is that it needs less space than a platform/ rocker plate . Is this one of the best advantages of the E flex in comparison to a rocker plate ??

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

@@alejandro.a.mYes, minimal space and height from the E-Flex Plus is a huge benefit that I appreciate compared to a typical rocker plate. But as covered in the video, the connection between leaning action being connected to the handlebars also sets this apart from all other rocker plates. This is a step closer to what we experience when riding outside and feels more natural to me compared to even the best rocker plate with no steering connection. Additionally, since this replaces the front wheel & tire too it makes the whole setup maintenance free from a tire pressure standpoint compared to most setups. And if you ever have to move the setup, the small size and separate sections are far lighter and easier to handle than a larger rocker plate. This is just a superior design to the many other motion solutions I have tried and it's why I have used an E-Flex for going into my 3rd training season now.

@alejandro.a.m 9 ай бұрын

@@Chader9 it’s not available in Europe right now ???

@jonof8070 9 ай бұрын

So i cant use my kickr climb with it?

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

No you won’t be able to use the Climb with the kickr version of e-flex.

@mahonah 9 ай бұрын

Does this fit the JetBlack Volt V2?

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

You would think they should but I don’t have a Volt 2 to test it with. I will have to get back to you on this one.

@gerbryf 9 ай бұрын

Isn't the Volt v2 essentially the same as the Zwift Hub? I'm sure it should work, but get confirmation before handing over the cash!

@jareou 9 ай бұрын

Any word on the warranty?

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

Per the Inside Ride support page, they appear to offer a 5 year warranty.

@ravenilcorvo3218 4 ай бұрын

Is it available in Europe?

@SmartBikeTrainers 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately no

@ravenilcorvo3218 4 ай бұрын

@@SmartBikeTrainers will it be in one or two years?

@donwinston 9 ай бұрын

I have the Kickr version of this. Ehh. ☹

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Just learned that InsideRide offers a conversion kit to fit the Kickr, the Core or the Zwift Hub for $40 if you decide to switch trainers.

@ZwiftInsider 9 ай бұрын

In saddle motion feels great on these. But out of the saddle... I'm not sold. Even in this video, your out of the saddle motion doesn't look natural to me - the bike tilted the opposite way it should be with your pedal stroke. My take: say e-flex beats a rocker plate when seated... but rocker plates are better out of the saddle.

@SmartBikeTrainers 9 ай бұрын

Right, out of the saddle will take some getting used to and training. The subtle movements motion platforms offer is what make them beneficial for extended riding time.

@peoplepower1272 9 ай бұрын

pretty sure rocker plates are worse for standup riding. Seen so many videos where the rocking is out of step with the rider.

@HobbyHoarder 9 ай бұрын

Shame about the price, half would be more acceptable. It doesn't even look like it's worth that much since it's mostly just metal.

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

Like I said in another reply, this is priced similarly to the other rocker plates that offer the same motion directions. There are lower priced options, but most of those offer just lean only without fore-aft.

@ksc8673 9 ай бұрын

Interesting the KICKR E-Flex was $399 in 2019 - see link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLaXh7OanNPYo2w.html

@kimwarner6050 9 ай бұрын

I find riding inside miserable. My muscles really hurt, and it feels like I have to put out alot more power. Last time I i rode alp de zwift, haven't been on the trainer since. Its a torture machine that special type of people love

@Chader9 9 ай бұрын

No guarantee, but the difference between a typical rigid trainer and one with motion added (like this E-Flex) can help alleviate muscular fatigue as well as the more common saddle discomfort. There is nothing natural about locking a bike in position like most trainers do. Giving at least some freedom of motion helps by making the ride inside at least a step closer to the movement we get outside. That said, there are some very low cost & easy DIY hacks a person can try to see if more motion is a benefit for them. Thicker trainer mats up to stacks of foam sheets under the trainer feet are quick and easy tricks to try. There are further steps in the DIY direction if those prove promising or you can jump to a built or purchased solution too. Motion is not necessary or beneficial for every rider, but I'd say that over half of the people I've seen try motion solutions end up liking them from the improved indoor ride experience.

@jareou 9 ай бұрын

Every year, since 2020, when I transition for outdoor to indoor on my wahoo kickr I get a hip pointer or upper thigh injury. I then have to wait a week to recover to get back on, sucks.