Of course they won't affect criminals. The whole idea of someone being a criminal is that they break the law. A lot of criminals have been using fully automatic machine guns for years and they are fully banned. They are not going to think "I better get rid of my Uzi now because its illegal" lol. Gun laws are a joke over here and it spoils the sport and hobby for good people. Its a shame really.

Twas ever thus!

It's not the criminals the establishment are scared of and shitting their shorts about. They are scared of good people sick of their evil. They are scared of a majority of population being able to fight and defend themselves. They lose control or their illusion of it. Status quo is unacceptable to them. Hence more laws.

That’s why they do it

That would require them to do actual work. You cant even get them to respond to or investigate burglaries. Legal firearm owners. They can just send us a letter.

@@JW-YT they do at last turn up to burglaries, I was at one recently where 3 shotguns and a .22 rifle were stolen. They found the safe keys somewhere in the property, they left the ammo safe wide open full of shells and .22 lr, coppers told the owners unlicensed son in law (owner out of country)to leave ammo safe open for forensic investigation in 2 days time 🤦.

More crime committed by knives have been for decades and increasing every year.

Closer to absolute tyranny - the goal of both marxists and globalists

It's simply about control, not safety or whatever else our politicians say.

Because we are the only people in this part of the world that can raise our heads and the people part of the establishment fear it.

Its by design

Strange it’s exactly the same thing happening here in Australia. A pattern?

Like it or not, that's the legal term: 'A lethal barrelled weapon of any description from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged'. Lethal being defined as a muzzle energy of 1 Joule.

Agree entirely this is the first I am hearing and the arrogance in this video is why the community is so fragmented. It 100% should of been the goverments priority to ensure they reach out to as many people as possible. You cannot respond to something you have no idea is happening.

@@xxSWxxNINJA I think you have answered the question with your last sentence! They don't want us to respond, if we did, they might be obliged to give a sh*t what we thought.

Same here didn't know about it either.

Dead right.. it was a deliberate move by gov. They dont want any guns out there..

Ditto....

Agree, Can you in GB spell SLAVE?

It is. Don't allow yourself to become complacent though brother, lest Sweden ends up in the same boat.

@@stancooper5436 Very true. It is a constant never ending struggle.

@ Indeed. The agenda is of course to take it all from you.

@@stancooper5436 of course

I am surprised. everyone at my club and other shooters I know knew about the consultation. I read about it in NRA journal, facebook shooting groups and watched youtube videos that mentioned it.. I dont know how many actually replied to the consultation. I did, but I think most didnt.

There not asking the publics public there just doing things like dictatorship

Very true.

I was about to rejoin BASC but I'm now wondering what they actually do for us?

I've not heard a thing about it till now, and I've got instructor certificate

Well when there is people who want to own military “styled” assault rifles, high powered rifles and handguns what do you expect? Who needs the assault stuff? It also makes us look bad. Why do you need a handgun? And who needs a high powered rifle that can go miles? It would be better to just make everything a single shot. Limited amounts. And a maximum caliber. (Maybe .243 or .303.) As if someone goes crazy they won’t do as much damage with access to only these guns.

Just goes to show how little you know about firearms, with your comments like that

@@stevehorner9004 How? Try me? You didn’t respond with much replies to my points, and your claiming I don’t know much? Surely you could reply and take apart my points?

@@kylethedalek I don't know @Steve Horner's exact point & am not sure 'where you are coming from' based on your other comments around here, but I also disagree with you so I'll have a go at responding... I'm going to assume from your "they won't do as much damage" comment that you are supportive of a US Gun Control description of so called "Assault Weapons" (although you actually state "Assault Rifles" which is a well defined term for military select-fire small arms that are, all but, impossible to own in the UK & have been for a long time). The key problem is that "Assault Weapon" is a made up term that was deliberately designed to enable the control advocates to invoke an unjustified fear of firearms among those who didn't know better - I think its originator is recorded as having admitted as much. So an already vague & incorrect term has been further & widely misunderstood / misused but, in general, seems to be targeted at purely cosmetic features which in no way make such firearms more dangerous than their 'acceptable' equivalents. The typical characteristics do as little to turn make a firearm 'military grade' as just wearing camouflage does to turn a person into a soldier. So it might "make us look bad", but only because the lack of any proper foundation is not being called out - which is unfair & shouldn't be accepted. You question the requirement for "a high powered rifle that can go miles". Well, the power can be needed to humanely dispatch a hunting or other quarry - the function has very little to do with being able to "go miles". You later go on to suggest an 'upper limit' including .303... which can absolutely "go miles". I've never shot .243 but I'd bet it can too. Even .22 LR can travel a very great distance in certain circumstances. All of which only goes to show that one needs to be aware of 'backstops' whatever cartridge you legitimately use, but "short ranged" is not a useful control measure. You then say "single shot". Again, referring back to the "Assault Weapons" aspect, fully automatic firearms have long been banned in the UK; so only 'single shot' - firing one round for each operation of the trigger - firearms are able to be owned. And even a great many types of those eg non .22 rimfire semi-automatics have further been banned. Or did you mean 'absolutely' single shot, with every round having to be loaded by hand before firing? If so, there are good reasons why magazine fed firearms are necessary & that is entirely too restrictive for legitimate ownership... but if you believe that, there is very little I suspect I could readily say in a post on the internet to reverse that negative viewpoint! I'm afraid I really don't know what you meant by "limited amounts". Unfortunately there is too little understanding of firearms functionality & their lawful & appropriate uses. I am a big believer that ignorance around firearms needs to be countered much more effectively by the law abiding shooting community (all together - returning to a key point of this video!) because, at the moment, increases in laws & controls are being justified on the basis of improvements in public safety that they will actually have little impact upon.

What disciplines do you shoot for one, do you know how far a .22 Rimfire Bullet will travel, my point is as shooters we should all stand together wether you only like one type of shooting or not

same, when you buy an air pistol/rifle from a legitimate source you have to give your name and address and the serial number is also registered. this should then be on a central database and as such we should have been informed.

They wont listen anyway tick boxing before taking away moor rights.

🤣🤣🤣

its by design . waky waky

@@ivanbluetarski9071 Dear Ivan, I've been awake since Hungerford. Frank.

Obviously because HO doesn't want our opinions, instead they want opinions of the people who either have no clue how the current systems works or who want complete bans of all firearms. The future become evermore bleak ._.

@William Tell Are they though? A member of an organization I mean. Wheres the data?

I’m a member of two shooting organisations and I missed a notification to complete this survey. Very frustrating.

Good point, I was completely unaware of this consultation document

@@tanfosbery1153 I was also completely unaware of this,

@William Tell I’ve checked my emails and I do not have a request to complete the survey from either nra nor cpsa. I’m not moaning on social media, merely stating I didn’t receive the email.

You seem to be under the impression we can actually do something. We cant. We dont have rights in this country. Thats why I'm leaving.

@Josh Q good luck with that

@Josh Q then sadly you are living in a dream like I am. Our cultures and traditions were sacrificed a long time ago.

Criminals getting hold of ammo is easy all they need to do is find someone thats willing to buy it for them

@@therealfinn1839 you would still think if they are stealing a few shotguns and a .22 rifle they would at least take some of the ammo to go with it. No need to get someone to buy it for you then.

Its no problem for the Albanians gang members and cocaine traffickers

Soon you will walk on a line only and your butter knife will need a licence

@@redalias7931 Your absolutely right there fella We may aswell be living in North Korea under Kim Jong-un

You can be "law abiding and responsible" without being a member of BASC!!

@@nigelbase1196 Yes of course you can I agree 👍

Same here, in Scotland we already have airgun licences and "proper" storage, as they are referred to as firearms, and there is no distinction between single shot or magazine fed.

Yes, we need to match our murder rate with the USA asap.

God bless

there are plenty of americans who dont. your country is changing too

I am an American here too. Born in China where guns are banned.

Same here. What happened

@@MrCliveford People stopped taking personal responsibility for their lives. Gave it up for flat screen TV's and empty promises.

that's exactly my thoughts... WTF has happened here!!!!

Don't bother private ownership by non landowners/farmers or pest control will be gone in 10 years

They always go for the lowest-hanging fruit. Like reducing a speed limit from 40mph to 30mph because some idiot drove at 95.

Such a common phrase. Its not easy to buy a gun on the street ffs. Criminals wont take the chance of you being undercover. It's only easy for other criminals in the known circle to buy a firearm.

@@MattF12765Exactly. I often wonder where the “It's so easy to buy illegal guns and ammunition” crowd get their information from.

If it's so easy, I wouldn't mind you giving me a few tips and tricks. I'd love to have a gun.

UK Gun community got burned pretty bad by bad actors in the past (Hungerford, Dunblane) So I can't say it's not understandable.

Yea the gun community over this side of the world is very shut off. People don't like to identify themselves publicly as gun owners. American gun owners have done so much damage to the sport.

@@briankelly8297 Then the sport is likely to wither and die. The licensing system is designed to be difficult and if members of the shooting community don’t act welcoming to newcomers, they’ll just not bother.

@@Smatnm Good I am sick of being threatened by firearms in the UK. Only a select few are allowed to be armed. And criminals of course.

@@nospoon4799 How often have you been "threatened by firearms in the UK" - except perhaps by criminals (who do not care about the laws anyway)?

Says it all! done on purpose!

Thanks Roy

Shooting body’s need to get their acts together,be more cohesive,don’t hold your breath.

That I blame on the organisations and their ridiculously low effect to raise awareness.

Thanks!

There was plenty of people bitching and moaning about it, so I'm not sure why they are now claiming no one told them. But we do love a good moan in this country don't we.

​@William Tell but its a catch 22 isn't. I too filled out the consultation and answering the questions felt like signing your own death warrant. with questions being something like "do you agree with the proposed new rules? yes or no they don't go far enough. you can't win.

Glad it was helpful!

What area are you in ?

@@nickcoppard5335 we live in Carlisle I’ve inquired at the two clubs I know of one would be spot on but they meet late at night, and the other club said they’re not looking for new members at the moment !

@@markaldersey2663 shame , I am in Sussex, sorry

Criminals are dead set against more restrictions, the less guns we have the less they have to try and steal.

Of course if people didn't know about it then that's not their fault, which is why I also blame the organisations. BASC has 150,000 members, yet we get 2,300 responses, why was more not done to encourage their membership to compete it. Same goes for the NRA, Countryside Alliance ect

@@EnglishShooting Once the legislation is drafted there will be opportunity to lobby as groups, and also individually of individual MPs. The same people who claim now they would have responded to a consultation had they known about it will have a chance to talk to their own MPs; they wont do it, and will moan afterwards. Guarantee.

How would anyone know about it, if the Ukraine war wasn't plastered over the news you wouldn't know their was a war

Dozens of changes in legislation happen every month just waiting to catch you out when you unknowingly fall foul of them

ask how many drivers on the road know the new legislation about bikes and pedestrians, i bet not even 50% will ! and that was plastered all over the tv for weeks

In law ignorance is no defence, you will get done for breaking a law even if you were unaware... Same principle applies

I agree. Every shooter I know, knew about the consultation. NRA journal, FB shooting groups, rifle magazines. Was in all of them. If shooters choose not to be informed and kept up to date then its their own fault.

Not sure that is actually case, brocock ban was well publicised.

I have what I presume was a 40mm dummy or practice round, it was one of two, joined together to make a table leg!!, and looked like a commercially available product, imagine having a warehouse full of them and someone wanted to make a point.

@@CrusaderSports250 Nice! And this is the thing I know people who have businesses (not big ones.) who makes little shooting accessories for you keyrings and such. Some gun smiths make them as a gift for using them and so on.

Black powder used to (presumably still does) require a separate explosives licence which stipulated the maximum amount you could hold.

HME is 50 cal basically, it will affect target shooters that use 50 BMG

@@aaront2131 fair enough. We don't hunt anything near here with 50bmg

A 308 shooting 3100 fps with a 168gn bullet is inside hme

@@rosst6688 I think though that they set the limit higher when discussing HME in this context. much higher than 300wm let alone 308. As was said its basically just 50 bmg which gets affected

How?

@@kylethedalek How what exactly?

@@MajorJimPlays How is it nuts?

@@kylethedalek Allowing people to buy firearms and ammunition without a firearms certificate? Res ipsa loquitur!

@@MajorJimPlays Yes? So freedom is now obsolete? I didn’t hear anyone getting firearms this way and hurting people? Yet there is shootings every week in cities with gangs, did they get an FAC?

I'm a member of the NGO ( National Gamekeepers Organization ) and find them to be very good and proactive in the protection of shooting rights

Hi Paul, knew this thirty years ago. Jobs for the boys. Regards.