That isn’t green hair algae. It’s a filamentous bacteria similar to cyanobacteria and should be treated the same way. You poisoned your tank when it died. Your test kits can’t detect biologically bound po4. You were feeding bacteria tons of nutrients with that many fish plus dosing aminos. Look into Fauna Marin BioBalls and Rebiotic. And stop dosing aminos!

Tank is in bounce back mode looking better every day. You guys know how I roll the good the bad and the ugly. Stay tuned the show much go on 💪🏾💯

Sorry for your losses, CJ. But props to you for sharing the bad news and not only the good. My 4 year old is always excited when he gets to add a new coral skeleton to his collection 😂😢💀💀

Failure is the teacher to success. Back to the drawing board 💪🏾🔥

Sorry about the SPS loss. That sucks. I corrected my hair algae by feeding the tank less, cutting back my light schedule, manual removal, and tangs.

I've used reef Flux multiple times on my fully loaded sps tank with no issues. I think it's a combination of tank age, multiple changes to close to each other and nutrients being too low. That's the only thing I can think of since it's only SPS that died.

So great to see new videos from you! How I missed these!

Sometimes we do too much in the hobby. I am sorry for your loss man. Hopefully now that it is under control you will be able to keep it at bay from now on.

Appreciate you sharing your experience - the good, that bad, the ugly, and everything in between.

Your water change system is sooo awesome.

When ever I get algae issues, I put in a foxface. Always sorts it out! Keep on doing what you do dude! Tank will bounce back!

CJ is back awesome

What’s up CJ just wanna say I know how u feel when it comes to losses it will get better bro keep ya head up , I had my fair share when I first started with sps as well my motto is “say no to chemicals” which overall led to my success as well as good random flow and parameters being stable with no sudden changes tank still looks good 👌🏼

Tough break CJ this hobby can be brutal. This is your best build best looking forward to you bouncing back! Recently tried Vibrant in my nano to try dealing with bubble algae. Was informed of the drama surrounding it prompting me to stop after two weeks. Bought some more astra snails and after a couple more weeks they have removed almost all hair algae now I plan to throw a emerald crab in for the bubble. For me going forward I don’t think I will be messing with quick fixes. All my experiences have shown natural slower ways work out much better.

Tough break CJ , the hobby has ups and downs but hang in there bro

Sorry for your losses CJ'S Aquariums

Seeding the tank with coralline algae after the cycle helps a lot with avoiding the ugly stage and a solid clean up crew 👌🏽 works for me every time 💯🫡

Sorry to hear about your losses. I have used fluconazole many times. Reef flux a few times and Blue Life flux rx a few times. Every time I used blue life flux rx I had coral issues up to coral deaths. I would like to assume that they are both the same product, but my personal experience makes me believe otherwise. Best of luck reefing.

The cause would be probably the extra feed of the LPS corals & food left mysis soft shells that build up enough phosphate in the detritus NOT the water parameters. Generally any kind of tank started off from dry rocks will have an ugly face thus when you added sps they will probably be gone. Anyways it is what it is, keep doing what you're doing when the tank is more stable go ahead add back some sps. Never give up and keep up the good work! We have all been there. 💪💪

Sorry for the loss. I would've done the slow manual/scrub, snail and h2o2 spot treatments on the algae. Do you not run a UV on the tank? It helps a lot.

I’ve used Flux RX and ReefFlux and never had an issue with SPS or any other coral really. In fact I use it as a go to when hair algae gets gnarly. I actually had great success with a sea hare too, but you have to be able to move them on once they’ve done their job. I’m not a master by any means, and I love your videos, but just feels like you put the pedal to the metal so fast. You’ve got some many bottles and additives and supplements. 🤯 Either way it sucks, I’ve definitely been there too. But I’m sure you’ll bounce back like you always do! And thank you for sharing, sharing your losses publicly is tough. 👍

It causes your Phosphate to spike in a short period of time. I've seen many tanks crash beacuse of this. You have to keep an eye out and watch phosphates.

Your tank is Gonna bounce back stronger and better. Reef on!

dr tims waste away gel helped me alot

Hate to hear you lost some corals. Thanks for the video, I’m sure lots of people will find it helpful. I’ve used reef flux a few times with success killing algae and was lucky to not lose any corals. I always only dose half a dose tho, maybe that’s why. Tank is older too, over 10+ years

I have a 1200gal sps dominant system. I agree with a previous post, that this isn't hair algaes but instead the bacterial filament algae. Fluconazole is the right med for that. I use pharmaceutical Fluconazole. 4 500mg tablets which is a low dose. It will slowly kill off the algae over about 2 weeks. Key is to remove as much manually as possible. For hair and other normal algaes on rock the 3 best products I've found are reefbrite liverock enhance and liverock clean, along with britewell razor. Those are enzyme based products which not only devolve organic materials, algaes ect but are also food for coral.

Well that sucks! We all try and figure out what caused an issue but a majority of the time we are just guessing. My best guess is the Fluconazole started a chain reaction, with bottomed out nutrients, then a spike from the die off and being that the tank is so new, trying to find it's groove it was just too much for the SPS. As much as it sucked losing the SPS, the tank is still looking amazing.

A few months ago I was dealing with green hair algae pretty badly. I eventually turned my white spectrum down several % and it solved that problem for me. Now I need an answer for bubble algae that does not involve emerald crabs. I have a 45 gallon innovative marine.

Wow sucks that you had that crash. I had great success with Fluconazole in my tank against hair and bubble algae. It completely obliterated it both, with 0 coral issues. On a side note , i too im using the same skimmer and im suffering from low ph. Currently using a recirculating co2 scrubber, and it has helped. However im burning through media. Thinking of running a line outside, but im scared of possible pollutants. Are you using carbon filter of sorts on that line?.

Can’t fault you for trying something different on a new tank - maybe there were just too many different things all at the same time. On your IG live the other night, when you said the tank had been “fully stocked” before the algae started taking over, an alarm bell went off for me. I’ve had livestock in my tank for about 15 months now, and I’m still working on getting everything I planned. Maybe the basic principle of “patience” is what needs to guide you now. When you first started, with the JBJ45, you followed the rules that were known at the time, and you were hugely successful. Technology has changed, research has given us info about the importance of the biome, we can now use icp to learn what our systems lack and where we need to cut back, and we now can buy tailored trace elements to dose. What (imo) we can’t escape is that fast isn’t good in a reef tank and stability matters more than almost anything else. I’ve only started dosing traces within the last couple of months, after getting an icp done and identifying what was needed. I’m seeing crazy fast growth and now that I’ve figured out how to manage PO4, the sps I have are starting to get the right colours and everything is looking happier. But it’s taken a long time and I’ve been really careful. That’s how I’ve got my tank to where it is now but it doesn’t mean that’s what you need to do - I’m just thinking here, that the missing ingredient is patience. And hey - I think I know you well enough by now to wonder if you’ll be content with just watching the tank grow in. Lol, I suspect you’ll always want to do some kind of tinkering….and if it’s only one thing at a time it’ll be less likely to cause problems. I apologise for the loooong comment, but I watched this video last night, and I’ve been thinking carefully about what I wanted to say. You’re really talented and I (selfishly) want you to stay in the hobby so we all can enjoy what you share with us. I believe a successful tank is the best guarantee of that. 💪🏻

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Sorry you mistakenly diagnosed the issue in your tank. Brightwell’s 5x professional strength Neo nitro & Neo phos work great in elevating both and do a great job. I had the same issue with both my N03 & P04 bottoming out in my frag tank which resulted in me losing many frags. The Microbacter Clean is a great scavenger bacteria which should be dosed 24hrs after a WC and dosing the MB7 first. I know you’ll bounce back from this.

Crap happens. Temperature is hitting me hard, but I'm used to the adjustment. My daughter turns the a/c on if the tank temp is too low. GOOD GIRL 👧

Your problem is that you're using something you should not be using at the stage you are at. Your tank is not a year old yet, and you're still prone to the ugly phase. Dosing this in this early stage is steep backward. You're still going to have algae and blomes for a year or 2 until the tank fully matures. At this point, a clean-up crew and maintains is all that is needed at this point. Short cuts are only going to lead in crashes or loose. I been doing thus for 20 years and been down this road. Slow and steady is what is needed.

One thing for sure is it's not the Flucanasol. Best way of handling that hair algae would have been Mexican turbos. You are right about the nutrients being stripped due to the algae. The irritation and ultra low nutrients are absolute SPS killers. Also if the algae dies and if not removed it will spike nutrients and lower pH. Just my 2 cents and sorry for the setback but brighter days ahead.

I’m wondering why you switched from the Orpheks to the AI Blades. What did you dislike or reason for the change

If you are having issues with low/zero nutrients you should be staying away from stuff like microbacter 7 and clean. Those will decimate the nutrients in a newer tank. Its basically just another form of carbon dosing. You have way too many things exporting nutrients for such a new tank. I would get rid of the algae scrubber for now, stop dosing any kinds of bacteria or carbon, run the skimmer only half the day. Let the tank get a little dirty. Ive used Reefflux once, and i had a very similiar outcome with my sps. I believe the people who have success with reef flux have much more mature systems, making them more resiliant. New frags in a new tank i dont think handle reefflux very well.

what settings are your mp40's on to get the rocking back n forth motion?

I generally will not add sps in my tanks until it has gone through the "ugly" phase which for me has been about the 6 to 12 month phase. Also I have learned the hard way that adding aminos, coral food ect. is generally a bad idea unless your corals are growing fast and starting to get big and are starving for nutrients.

dr tims and fauna marine bacto blend is really good

I like your channel, here for an update. You FEED a lot for the number of fish. I’m watching and your fish started going after it, but just lip-bumping after a short period. I feed the heck out of mine too, but that feeding was really heavy, don’t you think? I feed 3x a day. I believe in feeding. I’m enjoying your updates, tank looks great, besides the Flucon. Last time I used it went 1/2 dose. Think my nems do not like it.

From my personal experience the crash of phosphate is what RTN your sps.

I had an algae issue like you experienced, 3 weeks of manually removing it & water changed & then week 4 I dose flux rx slightly under dosed rather than recommended amount (like I do on my recommended things- amino’s, coral food ect) & touch wood waited the 14 days & mine cleared up , did a massive water change as noticed a large phosphate spike (got it down too 0.09 from 0.18) 🙏🏼 guessing yours was nutrients from algae dying 🤷🏻‍♂️

I just ran reefluxrx. I didn't have any SPS dieoff but all my corals were super unhappy. Keep in mind my system is 160 gallons and I underdosed slightly out of caution

Over the last 7 years or so I used fluconazole a couple of time, different brand tho. I didn’t have any die off that I know of from it.

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that's hard to watch but keep your head up, we all been there

If you remove GHA too quickly you will get a phosphate spike. Even a small amount - those things are proflific absorbers, and when you remove spike. I would add in phospapte remover as you remove GHA, and do it slowly to avoid thag spike

Bro, this sucks! Dang! Was the tang not interested in the hair algae?

It’s hard to know exactly. When I tried flux. It started a nasty cycle of my system trying to rebalance…

I know you took a hit,but it could've been way worse. You got rid of that hair algae at expensive cost,however time to go foward. I would let her run and double up on my water changes 🤔 and feed lightly ,it will tighten up and shift into a more seasoned reef. A little less is sometimes better. Tank still looks great and fish.🐟💜

Wondering why didn’t you shut your lights off and let your pods and snails to the work.

I've never used reef Flux and tank age and rush to fill the tank is what I think caused the mini crash. Take things slow, especially when adding sps.

It happens, to better things to come 🫡🍻👊🏻

How much fluconazole did you dose per gallon? That algae doesn't look like hair algae.

Going through a similar thing now. No flucanazol yet nutrients close to 0 and Algea bloom. Losing all my newer sps and strangely enough any new fish that go in die. The legacy fish and coral seem fine. I’m just letting it ride and not buying anything else at this point

Ugh, @cjsaquariums this really sucks man. That sinking feeling and the pit in your stomach as you watch those gorgeous corals go overnight is never fun, but we all have losses, just gotta pick ourselves back up and do better 👍 So much was going on that it's probably impossible to pin down a single event as the cause, but stability is king. Changing lights, salt and adding amino's and chemicals all in 6 months is a lot of change for our glass boxes. Algae often consumes the nutrients in tank as well, so you can often get low or zero readings when in fact they would be super high but the algae is consuming them all - know what I mean? Anyway, be eazy. Keep doing what you do

You would notice bleaching with. O nutrients. But adding the Flux from what I've read is not nice to sps. Just slow up and let the tank mature a bit before reintroducing sps. Rushing with these animals is never a good tactic.

Sorry to see this . This may sound crazy but Do you suspect that the reef wasn’t fully cycled? Only reason I suspect that is because the hair algae blossomed so quickly. I don’t imagine that happening after all the dosing and podding? Once sorry about the losses. Minor setback for major get back 💪🏿

Sorry this happened bro. Every time I use something like this the side affects are worst then what I’m treating. My latest tank I just ride it out.

Sucks that you lost your critters. Are you monitoring pH, CJ? I'd expect the decaying algae to have negatively impacted pH such that the SPS would suffer. I've had great success with Reef Flux (for bryopsis) and the Reef Flux/ChemiClean combo (for cyanobacteria), but one needs to be ready for the drop in pH and potentially the resulting alk spike because the corals are pissed. An alk spike alone shouldn't be enough to hurt healthy SPS, but add to that the increased spread (similar to what happened when Mok-Yi switched to out lensed bars for Blades), reduced spectrum, suppressed pH, and algae guts in the water, I'm sure the tank wasn't a fun place to live. Half to quarter dose may have been effective, and something others should consider when using Flux. Instructions don't care about corals. The instructions are only relevant to the target organism.

I honestly just think it was too much too fast, even the water changes this early in the game aren’t healthy IMO. It was definitely a combination of a lot of things, a “fully cycled” tank isn’t the full answer, I even think running the algae scrubber this early in the game is too much, that kind of stuff shouldn’t come online til months and months down the road (just my .02) Love the videos and the stoke! Keep it up.

I dont see a nem guard,you could loose a lot more then only corals.I lost corals and fish😬

If you've got hair algae your nutrients definitely haven't bottomed out. They can bottom out when it's grown out, but then you'd see it start to recede again.

That sucks man. I have never used Reef Flux myself. You will come back with bigger and better SPS. just sucks that you lost all that money. Reefin ain't easy all the time. We all accept the challenge when we decided to set up tanks though!.

SPS will not handle rapid changes very well. They have to have a mature “stable” environment. The quick fix is not good when keeping SPS. I didn’t forget about getting with you but I’m Kinda glad that I haven’t yet.

Way to much going on to soon buddy

No matter what, all tanks will go through an asshole stage. Ive always waited till the tank finds its balance before loading it up with coral etc. My tanks just over 2 years and I'm just adding sps, but we all do things differently

I wouldn't put sps in any tank that's not a year old

Reef flux..always use have dose ..and leave in the system for 14 days..turn skimmer off..for first 3 days ...just an fyi...cheers

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I think if you had waited too long, the algie would have smothered and killed all everything anyways

Too much fish, too much coral, all at once. There is no safe way to expedite the process of creating a reef tank. You will suffer losses and continue to do so until you let things settle and mature. I don’t see how this hobby can be fun if you jam your tank instantly and have nothing to build on. It’s like getting a television, you just buy it and turn it on, that’s it. You aren’t treating this like a project. A reef is not something you can just buy. I hate to say it but this tank will be a systemic coral and fish killing machine for quite a while until you put the credit card down.

I would say go back to reefing 101. 1 thing at a time. Having algae and testing at 0 doesn’t mean it’s true. Keep it simple water changes uv if you want. Test your water before you mix your salt

i really think ur nutrients probably got too close to 0. I have used reef fllux multiples timse without ill effect and most the reviews online are good.

You wanna keep your money in the tank, buy softies. Also, as always slow it down, too many fish and life in that very young tank. Maturity takes years.

You know better than to be putting chemicals in the tank. There is no reef flux in the ocean

You took the time to set up your tank but you rushed, forced the maturity of your tank and jacked it all up. Like chill out CJ and let nature take its part. You’re a smart guy… stop over analyzing everything and chill bro

The problem is you have much money for paying in wrong toys. Keep it simple. -Test ca alk mg no3 po4 by your hand use cheap test such as salifert. - dose ca mg alk and keep them stable. Dose no3 po4 amino acid with very little. - Feeding fish and coral much, dont care about no3 po4 in this phase. -Water change every week. - dont change light or spectrum when you already set up them for at least 3 month. - algea: your hand and tang fish is best weapon. - ich on fish: just keep feeding them much with frozen or fresh food and dont use any medicine, they can dead, buy new one.