seriously - because it is a fascist situation here too

They’re going to do with him as they did to usman qadir. Waste him the first chance he doesn’t perform

Yeah the kid needs to go to UAE and save his career. PCB sucks.

​@@Sarah_0112 what career does he have in the UAE?

@@H_F2023He can play the leagues as a local so better pay and better opportunities.

Same man. I never thought I'd feel this way about PCT. But I've had enough of this shitshow now

We all think that. Yet somehow when a series or event starts, we are glued to our screens. Its comical

I have been saying the exact thing to my cousin

Qasam se

Resonates with most of us 90s kids especially. We've seen horrible times in our cricket but it seems to be on a slippery slope with no hopes of recovery. What's most depressing is, as much as I absolutely abhor what's happening, I'll still tune in to watch these nincompoops get their backsides handed to them. Fazool ka nasha hai, fazool ka.

Aur yeh log cricinfo mein likhte hain, sigh! Aise hyperboles hi sar kharap karta hain mera.

Agreed. Babar isn't even in top 3 which would be some combination of Miandad, saeed and inzi for me. Babar hasnt played as many match winning knocks as any of them.

Just go & check stats of past batters in sena & then you’ll know 😂😂😂😂 Babar’s avg is 25 only in aus test It’s 67 in eng 39 in sa 47 in nz Get ur stats right first lmao

@@bi6235 there is also hanif muhammad, zaheer, yousuf, younus. is he close to them most definitely but he is not the greatest by any stretch.

@@junaidzaib3597 he has played 2 matches in england so the true average we will know after he has had a proper tour. but his away average is 35 while playing majority of his away test in sri lanka and westindies. away averages of miandad 45, Inzimam 45, younis 48, yousuf 45 only zaheer has comparable numbers he still has a higher average of 36. you cant compare the ODI record of players of the past with the current lot because of the two new balls, small boundaries and massive scores because if you do then you would have to concede that Bavuma is a better batter than smith or van der dusen is a better batter than Kallis and I am sure you will not agree to both these statements so why does it hold true for Babar?

Wouldn't be implausible given how small the people running the show are.

IK literally handpicked Babar. This explanation makes no sense

@@AyeshaRabab The rest of the players have strategically distanced themselves from anything to do with IK. Like keeping silent + unfollowing him on social media etc. In contrast Shaheen was heaping praise on him as recently as last month. There is literally no cricketing reason to remove Shaheen after one series.

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Already called dibs on it :D

Let's be honest. Mohsin is not Shahbaz's man. He's pindi boyz' paltu.

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​@@BattaFast thats a cute name. Is he a British Shorthair?

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If you pay attention to his commentary his world view is still what it was in the 90s so I don't think traveling the world has opened his eyes to new things.

​@@BattaFast so nothing then, because that would mean stating facts rather than basing your argument on subjective viewing of his commentary which some might find good, others not.

Idk if you are Rambo in disguise, but the comment I made was on his commentary. I have stated facts in my reply to you which you love to ignore or deny.

@@BattaFast Channeling a cricket match gone wild, your "facts" swing like Afridi in a T20 - bold but missing the mark. You position them as meticulously as Misbah plans an innings, yet they're as elusive as a good ball for Umar Akmal. Imagining I'm Ramiz Raja, you pitch googlies of misinformation, but even the third umpire can't spot your facts. In this banter, if your points were runs, we'd still be waiting to score.

what helps in this era is that these players have their own access to social media to get narratives out, and play outside the national team to truly express themselves, but yes it comes at a huge cost to the national side.

@BattaFast Agreed but I think player stress is an increasingly ignored part of cricket (qualitative factors have taken a dip in attention ever since cricket became datafied, an over correction imo). Unhappy/stressed players perform poorer. Worried ke stress of bad dressing room on young and still maturing players will mean poor performances.

100%

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Side se chote kardo upar ke rakhdo side main blade lagado 😅

and yet your comment is here..............

And who will give him that assurance? A guy who might get replaced before the tournament? Then what happens to Usman? Our issue with his selection isn't his batting skills but that it risks his own future.

@@BattaFast I know it's difficult to imagine but Pakistan is of course a better team. Imad , amir , Harris rauf are given contracts all over the world because they represent a major cricketing nation. The earning ceiling for a Pakistani player is way above a UAE player. So although it is a gamble on his part it's not as big of a gamble that you think. It will open way more leagues for him even if he plays a few games for Pakistan

@@Sohaib19874 earning ceiling for a regularly playing Pakistan player is definitely high, but for Usman to become one is not happening anytime soon - he was of course eligible for Pakistan for many years before he switched. In contrast, playing as a local in the highly lucrative ILT20 would have also given him some exposure but also a definitely 100% secure future.

@@BattaFast his financial future is secure because multan will not let him go anytime soon. you are also forgetting that he is filling the problematic number 4 position so I guess he will get a good run. he will also play the India Pakistan game. if he does well in that the sky would be the limit for him, don't think he will get league contracts based on his performances with UAE against Nepal or hong kong. he never played domestic cricket in Pakistan so he was never technically eligible. he was not played by his regions but now being the best batter in PSL things are different for him. he should not settle for the mediocrity of gulf.

Why is he playing India Pakistan? He hasn’t even made it to final fifteen you are adding him to final eleven

Why don't you enlighten us with your opinion about him?

I'm no expert, mate, hence requested the two gurus to talk about it and tell us. Everything doesn't have to be tongue in cheek 🤦🏽‍♂️.

@@aaraiz You made a rather bold execution by saying that Ramiz's tenure has been the worst of the ages so thought that you had an opinion on that? Anyway, these 2 are far from being any gurus. Pundits? sure, but not gurus.

I didn't make any assumptions, please read my comment again. Guru, pandit - semantics, dude.

will do so if it comes up ever, but have addressed this in a comment above

ruining a whole home test season, upending rather than editing an entire domestic structure to go back to a broken model, launching a financially disastrous new league while picking a fight with the existing lucrative league, claiming an untold financial incentive for a win over India which was never offered... baqi sab choro, completely nuking the domestic system and launching an ill-thought, terribly structured league when the main cash cow was having internal disputes is top-tier stupidity. for all of Zaka's brain farts, he also wasn't creating structural changes that threatened the stability of the board.

@@BattaFast how did he ruin home test season (you want PCT to compete with top tier test nations with depleted resources, be my guest)? what broken are we talking about (24 teams domestic structure is dilutes the quality and nobody cheers for Ghani Glass, or PTV)? launching a new league isn't disastrous in the long run (you can have multiple leagues in the country, nothing new), safeguarding PCB's interests isn't picking a fight, that's literally the job, untold financial incentive was stupid, I will give you that. how did he nuke domestic system(can't wrap my head around this one)? there are always disputes in leagues as everybody wants their piece of the pie to be bigger(this is why negotiations happen). Employing families and friends is the worst one can do for a corporate which brings about structural changes that creates instability in the board, which is what we are seeing right now.

He had all pitches changed despite opposition from players. Pak cricket had a great record at home so that was definitely not needed. You want to fight bog three then at least listen to your players. Secondly how do you do competing leagues in the same sport by the same board? If the PJL was to work it could be as teams of existing franchises. Trying and failing to make new ones was a disaster. And the PSL is the main revenue earner for the board, so pissing off all the franchises paying you is far from safeguarding the boards interests. Just because the board has had terrible chairmen since doesn’t magically make Rambo better or free of sin.

​@@BattaFast "Listen to your players," you say. By all means, let's have Babar Azam and company draft memos in between perfecting cover drives and toe-crushing yorkers. Next, we'll have the groundsmen advising on foreign policy and the tea lady on sports science. No, my friend, fighting the Big Three isn't the job of the players, who are busy ensuring the cricket ball is the only thing getting smashed around the park. Oh, diving into the cricket economy, are we? Let’s spin this like a Yasir Shah leg-break on a fifth-day pitch. Competing leagues in the same sport? Why, it’s like having biryani and pulao on the same menu - variety is the spice of life, my friend! The notion that the one can’t have two leagues is like saying Shahid Afridi can't decide between batting and bowling - preposterous! And as for the PJL, calling its inception a disaster is like dismissing a rookie player for getting out on a duck in his debut match. Every great innings starts with a single run, and innovation isn’t without its trial and error. Remember, even the greats like Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis had to start somewhere, and not every ball they bowled was a yorker. The PSL franchises aren't so much handing over their lunch money to the PCB; they're investing in a lottery ticket where the jackpot is cricketing fervor and brand visibility. The PCB, like a master chef in a bustling kitchen, is simply providing the ingredients, the recipe, and even the stove. The franchises? They're cooking up the feast, but let's not forget who owns the restaurant. Lastly, about our beloved 'Rambo' - critiquing chairmen is a national sport in itself, isn’t it? So, here’s to the PCB, managing more leagues than a single WhatsApp group chat where Osman is the only adult, and doing so with the grace of a reverse sweep under pressure.

man I appreciate your condescension, but please stick to things you know about. Calling the PJL a rookie is ignoring the fact that it would cannibalise PSL revenues, and that it never found franchise owners. Afridi batting or bowling is a function of the sport, as is Wasim and Waqar bowling together. Having two cricket leagues with different owners and broadcast deals and sponsors is splitting the pie, its a zero sum game. Describing them as two dishes on the same menu is a clear misunderstanding of what the economics of the leagues are. secondly, players play on pitches and are consulted on how they want them to play. pata nahi kahan se apni Dr Nauman English laa rahay hain yeh dikhanay ke liye ke aap ko baraa pata hai, but this is standard p[ractice in the sport. Home captains have great say in types of pitches, as do coaches. Chairmen aren't supposed to weigh in on this, this is basic shit. i guess rambo aap ke rishtaydaar hain yaa aap ke paas bahut time. hai ke bina kisi samjh ke aglo ke saath muu maari ker rahay hain.

i love the analogy, but it isn't quite the same at all. league careers in football and cricket are vastly different, with cricket leagues offering much shorter duration and thus money. secondly, footballers have a WC every four years to think of, but its more of an either/or situation in cricket with international vs league play. leagues in this sense offer more security to fringe players who won't be likely to win central contracts or have one for too long. thirdly, as shown in multiple standoffs with the board in recent years, the PCB is happy to be completely adhoc and petty in giving out NOCs, trying to make players look bad for choosing even leagues they have NOCs for. literally no pakistani player is free to be available for the national side AND play lots of leagues, because central contracts limit that.

1) making players join a camp at the end of 9 months of absolutely gruelling travel, domestic and international schedules, in the middle of Ramzan, is the joke. have enough access to data from teams/analysts to confirm that most of these players can easily do such runs, but probably were wary of it during rozas and wanted to avoid injuries, which happen from over-exertion. 2) maybe the problem is that cricketers don't *need* to be athletes as you define them. azam khan is a guy who can smash most international attacks for six, which is what franchises in multiple leagues pay him to do. what exactly does running 2km add to this repertoire? if you start grading sharks for their ability to fly, then you will conclude that they aren't very impressive also.

@@BattaFast wow. So looking forward to the day we have all players with the fitness of Azam Khan, we'll be unstoppable then I guess... 🙏🏼🙏🏼😭

@@razash8526 Azam Khan is exception as he's keeping the wickets. imagine 11 players in the outfield, not to mention the 250 lb Afridi coming over the wicket followed by 200 lb Naseem Shah. That'd be something.

bhai point miss kerne ki insistence kyun hai?

Shaheen Afridi was tracked covering over 20km in a white ball match, same for Shadab. These guys are very fit, but trying to make examples of them during Ramzan to please the chairman is not the way to go about it