If Eugenia weren’t trying to persuade people, why does she use a filter?

"Back to getting our asses beat for free lip gloss" 🤣

Jordy gifting us a second channel like we aren’t all feral animals demanding more every episode lmao

Eugenia is absolutely obsessed with her looks. She completely LOVES the fact that she’s sickly skinny and you can see she wants to stay that way.

Eugenia loves to argue. She chooses what she does and does not respond to in chat. 20 people can ask 20 normal questions “what’s your favorite movie?” “What’s your favorite color?” “When did you graduate?” And all she chooses to answer is “no I’m not wearing a diaper.” “No guys I’m not sick” “no guys I’m not doing a mukbang right now” “eat a cheeseburger? Nah I don’t feel like a cheeseburger right now” “I flashed? No I didn’t look at my shorts” “gaslighter? No guys I’m not a gaslighter” She has been repeating herself every year, every month, every week, every day, every hour. For a decade now, the entirety of her content could’ve been compressed into one video, because she only ever answers the same. Exact. Questions. Every. Day. Her livestreams are on a continuous loop. “Hi I’m Eugenia I go live every day. No I don’t wear a diaper. No I’m not sick. Yes I eat it I didn’t eat I wouldn’t be alive. My hair is fake? No it’s not it’s real. My teeth are fake? No it’s real. Am I hungry? No not hungry right now. The slurping?Im not trying to slurp, I don’t think I’m slurping.” An hour goes by. Rinse. Repeat “hi guys I’m Eugenia I go live everyday. A mukbang? I’m not doing a mukbang right now… “

the way eugenia responds to people could be compared to a 6th grade mean girl, right down to her speech patterns and body language. trauma (not accusing anyone of anything here *cough* deb *cough*) does leave you emotionally stunted, but it’s extremely visible in the way eugenia interacts with others, especially her audience. dear god this woman needs extensive therapy

“I don’t know what gaslighting is”, spoken like a true gaslighter 😂😂😂😂

I have a 12 year old daughter and I talked to her about eating disorders and internet safety. I watch her like a hawk online. I trust NOBODY with my baby girl!

It’s sad to see her sit there inside her own head and believe that what she puts out there is beneficial to anyone but herself. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Parents should just let kids know they’re spying on kids’ media presence. And do it. Certain content, like Eugenia’s, need to be blocked by parents.

As a teenager I had visible anorexia. I was in the ICQ / MSN internet time and was on pro A. sites, watched EC. My parents didn't know I was chatting with people in their 30/40's, or what I read/watched online. They didn't say anything about my ED, until later in my late twenties they spoke about their concern about my ED back then in my teenage time and their fear of me dying from it. I really wished they told me this at that time, instead of doing nothing, saying nothing and pretend to see nothing. Staying quiet about it. I think it would have so much impact on me to turn the wheels. But yeah, back in the days there wasn't much of communication like that (mentally awareness and being open about it etc) so I agree on that Jordy about parenting.

Here faster than JS dishing out lip gloss and beatings. Love you Jordy ♥

Also Jordy just wanted to say I love the community corner and how you echo the chat and encourage people sharing their thoughts and stories. And you are willing to learn. I think the measure of a good content creator is how they foster their chat. It's easy to get defensive or ignore chat. It takes a bigger person to care for chat. I mean half the episode is about chat and your thoughts. It's nice.

As someone who's had an ED and been a victim of abuse, for me personally, the amount of gaslighting Eugenia does is equally disturbing to the ED behaviors. I don't think most people fully understand the impact gaslighting can leave even if the person receiving it is aware of what's happening. It's a disgusting tactic that contributed to my PTSD diagnosis just as much, if not more than, physical acts. I don't find it cute that she thinks so little of using that tactic to such a wide audience, many of whom are still mentally developing. I understand why she does it to downplay/brush things off, but I find it extremely irresponsible and disturbing.

I can vouch for the fact eating disorders are competitive. You are competitive with yourself and others. When I was first referred to ED services I was rejected because I wasn’t “severe enough”. Guess what that did? It gave me a goal, and something to prove. I ended up in 2 different ED hospitals a couple of years later for a total of 13 months. These hospitals are toxic. You’ve got 9-18 mostly teenage to 20s girls in there and there’s not necessarily an explicit competitive thing going on but it’s there. What BMI did you get admitted at, were you on a medical ward before you went to the ED hospital, did you have to be in a wheelchair, how long does it take you to eat a meal or snack, how often did you need your physical obs done, did you need a feeding tube, how fast were you gaining weight, did you need a 1:1 support, how many months have you been inpatient for, how many times have you been in hospital etc etc The irony is that when I did hit the “you could die, you need a wheelchair, you need daily bloods and vitals, you can’t have an unsupervised shower etc etc” point, I wanted to hide it from the other patients. The most physically ill patients tended to be the least competitive at the end and we were mostly just annoyed and exhausted with it all. Putting ED patients all together is such a damaging experience, at least it was for me.

Relying on institutions to be socially responsible!!! Never happen! You’re right Jordy, it’s all about the Benjamins and that’s it!

I really feel like I’ve found my people with Jordy’s content. I am always wanting to talk about the deep philosophical discussions about our society without getting heated and defensive one way or another. This is truly a community of open, curious, and intelligent humans ❤

Side Note: After my video I made, She went live very late last night with Jeffree where they gifted each other 10’s of thousands of Dollars back and forth Trying to buy each other’s friendship 😹 The “Act” was off the Charts 🤦🏼‍♀️ pretty embarrassing to watch actually. Then The “Jeffree is so amazing” lasted over an hour as she ignored her Chat bc she only had eyes for Jeffree😹

I was thinking about the Power Puff Girls thing. Eugenia doesn't like Buttercup, because Buttercup is perceived as abrasive and tough. But, Bubbles is seen as sensitive, pure, and somewhat weak in comparison to the others. The other characters see Bubbles as someone who needs to be protected, nurtured, and soothed. And that is now Eugenia wants to be SEEN and interacted with. She wants people to want to protect her. She doesn't want things to be her fault--and the way she deflects makes it obvious that she doesn't like the idea of being held accountable or being at fault. She wants her audience to see her as UWU SMOLL BEAN and so she associates herself with Bubbles/likes Bubbles. This is also why she accuses people that are critical of her of being 'mean' or 'hating her.' She pushes the aggression and accusation of 'meanness' onto others in order to protect her desire to be faultless, pure, protectable, cute, and fragile. In terms tropes, she fits very well into the idea of wanting to be a 'white lotus.' She wants to be seen as very pure, helpless, and cute. But, her roots are deep in the mud.

I went on her live yesterday and just because I said “it’s not fair that Jeffree gifts her a lot of money when she’s about to lose a battle” she snaps and was like RETROROLLER DONT BE MEAN TO JEFFREE WHERE ARE THE MODS?? And I got muted for the rest of the chat 😐 She has an ARMY paying her to just sit there and block anyone who says anything she deems “mean” which is almost EVERYTHING.. it’s so messed up 😰

Eguina:I never ask anyone for money you guys Also eugina: *GIVE THE GALAXIES! SEND THE LIONS,FALCONS, LEPRECHAUNS!* Hypocrisy at the finest

She really is such a gaslighter. I wonder how much of what she says she believes..

Only 5 minutes in...and YES. There was so much that happened to me from 12 on up because of how my parents were. A blend of controlling, chaotic, checked out. They didn't take an honest interest in what I was doing or who I was talking to and I'm still trying to heal from all of it. My experience led me to trauma..various addictions (an addictive personality in general)...and ultimately an abusive marriage. We should protect children at all costs...because they can go decades picking up broken pieces💯

Ngl, it irritates me when people say Eugenia has thick skin. When people are commenting that she looks ill, is too small, etc. When i was active ED, comments like that from family/friends genuinely felt like a compliment to me, it made me feel like what I was doing was working. It would be the equivalent of telling a body builder they have thick skin because they react well to being told how they're too huge. Not to mention the comments she doesn't like, she argues with almost all of them. The daiper thing doesn't go with her kawaii adorable cute princess fantasy so she gets pissed at those. I think she is genuinely triggered by it. I don't see Eugenia as having thick skin at all, I think she is very fragile.

I am a hybrid worker. I drive an hour to work listening to Jordy , coffee, and a drive is always bliss !

Not even 5 minutes in and I'm laughing hysterically. So glad this wonderful sponsor took a chance on you, Jordy! It's only up from here! 🤣

It has become absolutely unbearable listening to Eugenia repeat herself over and over and over. She never addresses any real positivity, just people paying her or regurgitating her own opinions. If these comments really bother her, maybe she should do something other than continually reading and addressing them. If she ignored these people, they would probably stop. If they stopped, though, would she have nearly as many people commenting and viewing??? 👀 There comes a point where you have to grow up and recognize that you cannot control other people or their opinions. You can control yourself and your actions. If none of these accusations or comments are true.. just ignore them and do you? They trigger her because they address a reality she refuses to face. She wishes she could livestream all day with everyone calling her pretty and skinny.

Her voice really gets noticably higher when she lies or says her version of the truth or whatever she believes. Either way, its just sad man..

Do you know what... it's just occurred to me that if Eugenia was a 29 year old man there would be alarm bells everywhere and accusations of 'grooming' children. Obviously I'm not comparing Eugenia to a ***** but what she is doing could be seen as grooming in terms of the way she acts like a young teen and she is without doubt affecting and inspiring vulnerable young people .... 🤔

I do not think Eugenia could live on her own. She and Deb are the epitome of a codependent relationship. Can you imagine her paying bills or doing anything adults need to do? She may have the money, but her capabilities are hugely lacking. The sad thing is that when she gets older this is going to be far less profitable. And sadly, that's if she gets older.

In my experience, having a low weight wasn’t about being overall better than someone but more like “I may not be able to be as rich, pretty, smart, from a good family as you, but I CAN be skinny”. I’m an older Millennial and I still constantly tell myself how fat I am and that I need to lose weight. When my first boyfriend named some other girl as the skinniest girl he knew, I was so pissed off. Clearly I hadn’t done a good enough job at being skinny. It’s all that I felt like I had and still where I hold a lot of my value. And I know it started young. I remember being seven-ish years old and wondering why I had “fat armpits”. Eugenia is not a good influence for kids, and I absolutely agree that her image (clothes, background etc) is inviting to kids. It’s not good.

I found Eugenia when I was 14. Before her channel, I had never come across anyone with her....condition. I was honestly horrified/concerned when I first saw her. By 15, I had a rampant ED and was heavily involved in certain communities on IG. I'm not by any means saying Eugenia is the reason I developed an ED. I 100% contributed to my disorder. But I will say that she was definitely a door that opened my perspective to a world I knew nothing about prior to coming across her content.

Yes she is a gaslighter. I thought that the other day before you said it ....and everyday she reinforces it even more

Jordy bringing up the serious topics no one wants to discuss!!! My front thanks you for the welcome 😂. It's been feeling disregarded all this time.

I’ve known about Eugenia since I was about 14 and at the age 17 I developed a rampant Ed that has destroyed my life. I was already bullied and called fat growing up, even by my mom and seeing her thrive made me think in part that I could live a full life with an Ed. That is entirely false.Living through this is like living in a internal war zone it is horrific what happens not only to your mind but also your body. I will always struggle with this now . And I will say the internet is what encouraged me to continue and push. I was also involved in proana forums for years and I can tell you that they worship Eugenia.

Thank you for your videos and discussions! I’m 58. I suffered severely with an ED beginning at 15 years old. I was admitted to inpatient treatment at 18, right before I turned 19, and was inpatient for five months, outpatient for many more months, and continued therapy for many more years. Even 40ish years later, while overall my eating is normal physically and emotionally, when my life feels chaotic, like I have no control over thing in my life or feel hopeless, the pattern of the ED can sneak in easily…I don’t eat much one day, then over a few days I recognize I just ate “this much” one day and the next day I think, “Oh I could eat even less” and eating more feels like I’ve failed. And honestly, though I have reached a healthy place and have not had overwhelming active issues with an ED in 40 years, sometimes watching Eugenia and seeing her weight is a trigger for me…many years later, especially if I’m already struggling emotionally. I’ve watched Eugenia on and off for years, initially concerned for her and cared she was suffering; however, after seeing how many things she manipulates and controls the audience she has, I’m angry she has the platform while in the depths of an addiction, and an ED can be identified as an addiction. From my experience and knowledge, an ED is like an addiction which can always come back I stress or need to control something, like an alcoholic in recovery who takes one drink and it becomes a coping mechanism, though harmful. There are many purposes the ED can serve, a coping mechanism or a manipulation mechanism, and many reasons it is used as a coping mechanism. Eventually the ED takes control, but that does not mean the person with it has no control over what they do…and even often manipulates much, very much. I have many insights into Eugenia and recognize many things in her. I’m not an expert except through years of experiencing an ED and years of learning about it and therapy. I’m willing to share anything at any time that would be of help in understanding the disorder.

yes, jordy. Your takes are spot on. My childhood was not perfect. Nobody's is. My parents were the strict authoritarian boomer type. I was not allowed to do most things, and I think this impacted my development a lot. HOWEVER, one part of my childhood I never expected to be entirely grateful for was my lack of social media/internet access. All of the devices I did have were time limited and full of parental controls, especially when I was really young. My parents had a vested interest in protecting me from the internet. At the time, I was super annoyed and felt left out from all my peers. I now recognize how toxic social media can be, especially for children who have no discernment. I want to be a teacher so i've been working with kids in an elementary school. The amount of parents nowadays who just throw an ipad at their children to shut them up is having a hugely negative impact on their education and social skills. I understand that parenting is increasingly stressful, especially nowadays when it's pretty much impossible to live on one income. Parents feel overwhelmed, and I get that. But, people really need to wake up and understand that many of these major issues we face in society are caused by issues in parenting. Do you pay attention to your child? How do you treat them? Do you spend time with them? Can THEY trust YOU? Are they happy? I understand, Jordy. My parents provided for me but it seemed like as long as I had a roof over my head, a bed, and food, everything else didn't matter and I should be grateful. No consideration for my experiences or mental health. Hopefully we can start to work together, it takes a village. People are so divided and alone right now. But until we can be attentive and loving parents consistently, these problems will continue to arise often.

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Jordy rolling his eyes with his stone face while doing the clapping hands 😂 that says it all right there

Me being 39 and still obsessed with The Little Mermaid and needing makeup tutorials 😅

_"Aren't we all just enablers when you think about it guyssss?"_ Also she likes to say that she's not begging because "no-one has to give anything" but the same is true for someone pan handling on the streets, no-one has to give them anything but they're still begging.

When you are undoubtedly thinner than 99.9% of the American population, how can Eugenia sit there and be annoyed when people think something is unusual or extreme?? Suppose she had more freckles than 99.9% of the population. Or suppose that she was taller than 99.9% of the population. Obviously, people are going to notice. You can't just pretend that it looks average.

In total fairness, a lot of people think someone looks tired without make-up. Like, its a thing. If they always wear make-up, which smooths out imperfections, and you see them without it, they look tired. So she is kind of responding like a normal person there, even if her body is approaching total collapse, which ISN'T normal

My take on why eugenia gets SO triggered by the diaper thing: When you have an ED (typically anorexia, bulimia or abulimia) as you are depriving from food most of the time your vowel movements weakens as your sphincter for the lack of food. So when you eat something or are in recovery, there is a super high chance you either piss or poop in your pants. So everyone I know that suffered an ED has a poop/piss story haha and believe me is not nice and it can still happen after recovery so is really annoying as you can not go out in peace, specially among friends. Luckily, when I got this happened to me they were just some episodes of peeing myself a bit (as I did not eat at all I did not got to poop myself) and is awfull because you can't control it, so I think eugenia has probably this happened to her, and is the same reason she refuses to drink water constantly. I know this, cause I stoped drinking water that often when that episodes had happened to me. Also a doctor explained to me that the intestins after loosing movement can shut down for good and I was really scared and started my recovery, but I had Anorexia for like 2 years by then and I am not sure how much can be in Eugenia's case! As a side note she says she eats, a lot of anorexics say this and is partially true, as often times we eat something at morning in order to don't pass out, because you wake up with zero sugar on your blood. So in my case I ate a cookie at morning with my mom watching me and afterwards when no one was looking, I took the plate to the bathroom and throw the rest of the meals on the WC and just left the dirty plates at the kitchen each day pretending I did eat. My parents believed I ate until they saw me totally on my bones 2 years later. Anorexics are very disciplined and controlling people, never forget that, Eugenia knows a lot more that she pretends to....

I think Jeffree Star has emboldened her to respond to negative comments with sass and sarcasm.

She has to go to the hair salon to get her hair washed? If she can’t wash it herself, then that’s either some rich people stuff or her ED is affecting her daily activities.

Ironically, if Eugenia had had more parental supervision and less internet as a child, she'd probably be a wholly different and decent person. But who knows.

Anosognosia, also called "lack of insight," is a symptom of severe mental illness experienced by some that impairs a person’s ability to understand and perceive his or her illness. It is the single largest reason why people with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder refuse medications or do not seek treatment. Without awareness of the illness, refusing treatment appears rational, no matter how clear the need for treatment might be to others. Approximately 50% of individuals with schizophrenia and 40% with bipolar disorder have symptoms of anosognosia. Long recognized in stroke, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological conditions, studies of anosognosia in psychiatric disorders is producing a growing body of evidence of anatomical damage in the part of the brain involved with self-reflection. When taking medications, insight improves in some patients.

As a parent you can’t always be there to monitor, in some circumstances. I’m a working single parent and I’m firm on screen time, I’ve had the conversations with my daughter - but she’s 12 and acts like a typical 12 year old. So when shes in the care of others while I’m working, there’s been situations where she gives into peer pressure to play games I’ve consistently said no to. Then I’ve had the adult in charge then say “it’s fine”. And these are close family, friends, or professionals 🤦🏽‍♀️ She has a disability so they think they’re giving her a treat, and she doesn’t have that capacity to process the mixed signals from ‘trusted’ adults. It’s frustrating, there’s been times it has been harmful (bullying), but there’s only so many options you have when you need to put food on the table 🖤

Yay a morning with Jordy! 🎉❤ happy holidays family! Edit- in regards to being a parent; responsibility always falls on you however, that being said raising a child is a community effort and I would like to think that companies would have all children’s best interest in mind. ( I know better but as a community we should be better) However, at the end of the day it is the parent who is responsible. IMO ❤

"Gifters are enablers" "Of what? 😜😜😜" She just LOVES the gaslighting and trolling 🙄

It's probably just better to teach your kid to critically think for themself, to be curious, be confident, and not to be an idiot. That way they'll never be affected by the Eugenias of the world.

Yay! Morning coffee with Jordy!

It must be a sign that it may be a good day, when you got me to chuckle already at the very beginning. Welcome front. Lol. Thanks another day I needed a laugh Edit: you're doing it again Your advertisement for yourself LMAO 🤣 "Have you ever wanted more Jordy? Well... Now you can!" 🤣

My theory about the Deb/Eugenia relationship is this: Deb was an ultra severe helicopter mom when Eugenia was a kid, the kind who never let Eugenia hang out with friends without her being present. Like Eugenia couldn't go to sleepovers or go to the mall unless Deb was there with her, so Eugenia became extremely isolated. I think that as Eugenia became a teenager and started to grow a little more independent, Deb got more and more upset that she couldn't see what Eugenia was doing at school. Thats possibly the reason Eugenia was switched to homeschooling. I really get the vibe that Deb absolutely NEEDED to know what her kids were doing every second of every day, so Eugenia being at school would have been a problem for Deb. I do think bullying may have been a tool used to convince Eugenia to switch to homeschooling, but wasn't the ultimate cause. I also don't think it's because Deb was afraid of CPS getting called either, I've seen pictures of Eugenia when she was in Highschool and yes, she was very thin, but I knew a lot of girls who looked similar naturally at that age (maybe not exactly that thin, but close anyway.) Then, Eugenia made a video about moving to the California house. Originally, she said that house was supposed to be for her and her brother to move in to without their parents. It seems like Deb accompanied them to California and just never went back. I think as Eugenia spent time online meeting people going into her 20's, she wanted to exercise her freedom as an adult to hang out with her friends without Deb. I really think at that time, Eugenia didn't want her mom to be present. Then, when the Jaclyn (spelling?) event happened, either Eugenia completely retreated into her moms "safety" after Deb likely did an "I told you so" speech. I know it was Jaclyn's intention to do good for Eugenia and get her help, but I think ultimately it mortified Eugenia to the point where she will never go anywhere without Deb ever again. Think about it like this; a scared and abused dog is hiding behind a dumpster, but you sit there and spend a lot of time coaxing it out, give it food, and pet it a little. The dog starts feeling more confident, and is coming up to you freely, maybe even wagging it's tail a little. But then, you snatch the dog quickly and aggressively by the neck, and throw it into a cage. You did this for the dog's own good, because you care and want to get it to the vet's office. But because you snatched the dog like that, it's never going to trust you or another human again. I'm not calling Eugenia a dog, I'm just trying to use that as a very basic comparison of what I think is going on here. The way Eugenia is reminds me a LOT of a girl I tried to be friends with in highschool, who also had an extremely overprotective helicopter mom. She wasn't allowed to leave her classroom at the end of the day until her mom walked in to escort her (This is a freshman I'm talking about.) She was on cross country, but could only go out running in our neighborhood as long as a parent was following her in a car. She DEFINITELY was not allowed to come to my birthday party unless her mom could come with her. That girl did eventually get to go out and have experiences after she was 18 (after massive amounts of fighting for that right,) but she was extremely stunted mentally and had absolutely zero life experiences. She had no real friends, never had a boyfriend, couldn't cook or do laundry. I am reminded of her constantly when I observe Eugenia. Anyway, just wanted to share my opinion about it 💁🏻‍♀️

“Welcome front” 😂, Jordy, never change

I was a 10 year old in chatrooms pretending to be a 15 year old (Idk, kid logic?), chatting with creeps unsupervised every day after school 🙃 Now that I think about it, that was wild. Especially now I'm thinking about having kids of my own.

My back feels a little ignored right now, but my front feels seen.

My ed was in a way for me to take control of my “social status.” I grew up stocky and awkward with acne and braces, was the girl that got asked to the dances as a “joke.” That kind of immature crap. Then when I started losing weight and obsessing over my appearance the attitudes towards me changed. I felt like i fit in better. When I got really sick people showed care and concern that I didn’t receive in my entire life. I think one of the hardest parts of recovery from eds is the social crap around it and fearing you’ll go back to being “inferior” again when you recover. But that is part of the illness. Sometimes the illusion of control can be an addiction in and of itself. Sad what these kids go through now with social media amplifying it more

YES DEB WATCHES EUGENIA'S STREAMS FOR SURE! And that's why she texts her when she sees or notices something she does online

I mean.... I've admitted to gaslighting someone AFTER the fact. It was a part of me holding myself accountable for my toxic behaviors

She definitely has a huge influence on her younger viewers

I just want to start by saying I really love this channel and content and I appreciate the entertainment of it. I am a mom of two teenagers. I am not sure how many people appreciate how hard it is to constantly monitor everything. The kids are exposed to these days. I grew up in the 80s and 90s when the internet was just starting and so I got to see the evolution of the internet in how easy it is now to access pretty much anything on the internet for kids. No matter how hard you try to protect them, they will always find a way. When I was a kid I found a way to start smoking cigarettes in my early teens and my parents were very very strict. So no matter what kids find a way especially if they know their parents don't want them to see it. In my opinion I feel is though having an open line of communication with your kids and talking to them about the things that they might be exposed to in an age. Appropriate way is the best way to help them to understand what they are seeing and what they are supposed to. You can't stop a kid from doing everything that you don't want them to do but you can at please try to help them to understand what they're seeing. I tried to put every parental guard I could on my child's computers or tablets but somehow they found a way around it. Having easier ways to restrict that content would definitely be beneficial.

She truly believes there’s nothing wrong with her, see doesn’t look in the mirror and see what u see. So any question about her looking sick and tired she truly takes it as it’s not her weight

Surprise! She did go live later than usual last night. Because Jeffree told her to and then sent her huge gifts. She bragged about the Pegasus gift all night. Chat complained that she was ignoring them, so she went to sub only. It was.... super fun.

One issue that i cannot dismiss, is how OLD Eugenia looks (especially when appearing in her genuine "skin"). There is such a thing as chronologically age, and then there is physiological age; since she has not been kind to herself physically, her physiological age has increased.

Deb is watching EVERYTHING. She is a manipulative, coercive, frightening. Not for the reasons we think. I think she is a control freak.

Its so strange how she seems so connected with her 15 yr old self. I remember the music, cutesy items, scene kid hairstyle. She is stuck in 2007. I do believe based on how she described her childhood Deb is probably just an extreme enabler. Jonas brother concerts were more important than school. I think she has never had responsibilities put on her and is socially stunted from that . The eating Disorder in my opinion is another thing she can do without any pushback. criticism =Bullying for her is also very telling to how she thinks. I do believe Deb is worried about her health but in her way of dealing with it is to watch her closely in fear of losing her. Just my 2 cents

Kids will find a way to access the internet whether it's on a friends device or their own. Even the best involved parents can't monitor their kids 24/7. Unrealistic.

I'm just confused as to like...... what do people get out of giving Eugenia money? like she doesn't create content or ANYTHING at all really - except sitting on her sofa in some clothes saying some makeup is "so cool" or "so amazing" (the only descriptive words she knows I feel like). like she doesn't even tell stories or anything worthwhile

Agree 100% on the need for parents to teach student digital literacy and responsibility. I was a teacher and one of the reasons I had to leave the profession was the rampant addiction to social media, decreased attention span, and learning false information from short form content. (I've got my problems with social media use as well...I grew up during the Wild West internet of the late 90s and I saw things that I shouldn't have.)

For elementary age children, I don't think they should be on tiktok. However, as a mom of 2 TEENS, those kids will be able to find and watch whatever they want. They all have their phones out in school now, so if they aren't watching it at home, someone will show them at school. Both of my kids have said Eugenia has popped up on their fyp randomly. This is why it's important to have open and honest relationships with your kids so they feel less inclined to hide things from you.

Why is EC always wearing a hoodie or a t shirt with NO BOTTOMS? Always fishnets but no bottoms. 😳

Y'all.... I've struggled with ED (ana) for my entire life... thought I had it under control and then Eugenia happened.... at the lowest weight I've ever been at. 😔 I didn't think she'd have an effect on me but here we are. I'm 40, if she can do this to me she's definitely hurting kids.

So I'm a 90s kid and I was on the internet back when it really was the wild west. Chat boards were completely unhinged and I was seeing things that I really shouldn't have at 11-12 years old. I think of it similar to movies and ratings. Things like age restrictions, or viewer discretion advised. In my opinion, that should be a thing for EC content too. Thanks for having this conversation with us. It's really important. I also want to say I totally get you when you talk about how you are now repulsed by the idea of talking to a child on the internet like that. I can't tell you how many inappropriate conversations I had during my teenage years with adults online. I think it absolutely played a role in priming me to be okay with situations that are definitely not okay. I met a man in his 30s when I was 17 and we ended up dating, and we married when I was 19. It was emotionally abusive start to finish, though I didn't realize it at the time. I was with him until I was 29 when I finally got the courage to leave. He's all I'd ever known as an adult. As I approached the age that he was when I first met him, I began to see more and more how strange and wrong the whole situation was. I could not even fathom seeing, really, anyone under the age of 25 at this point in a romantic way. It's absolutely repulsive to me. I feel sick to my stomach that I was ever even in that situation to begin with.

I am 42, so well out of having the stressors of peers at school. I watch you and I read the comments and every video is packed with an intelligent break down of what we are seeing. What I’ve been doing is restricting a lot lately under the guise of “fasting” when it’s really just not eating. I do not want to look like EC, but if I can just cut down a little, I’d like to be 15 or 20 lbs lighter. As much as I don’t want to say it, I am influenced by Eugenia big time. The craziest thing is that I agree with all that we discuss about her. The reason I’m saying it is that if someone like me - at this age & who honestly knows better, can be influenced by her, I couldn’t imagine being a child seeing her and not being influenced at some level. She’s “popular” and making a ton of money for doing absolutely nothing and all she has to do is starve. 😔

Hi Jordy! Loved your 2nd channel promo. I recognized those Sarris chocolate-covered pretzels! LOL Also, I'm a parent to 7 and ten-year old girls. I'm not a helicopter parent, but neither of my kids have phones even though they do have tablets. The tablets they use have excellent parental controls, they will stop after a preset time, and my kids dont have access to any apps that I don't approve of. They still do normal kid activities outside of electronics. I also communicate with them about everything.

Jordy, I absolutely LOVE your energy!!! Going to pop over and follow OLMJ now then I’ll be right back! 😂❤

Eugenia did go live last night. I happened upon her stream before i went to bed. Essentially it was her and Esme nonstop promoting Jeffree's new collection. The whole battle felt like an ad, in the way Jeffree even gifted(paid) them with his level 50 Pegasus animation that sent both Eugenia and Esme reeling. They screenrecorded the moment because it was the best gift in the world, according to Eugenia.

Jordy's second channel is worth it. You'll see strangers hammering on his car window asking if he's cold, every time a car parking besides him even tho a deserted parking lot, and him getting a bag of chocolate cookies although he asked for an apple.

Eugenia HEAVILY plays to a younger audience because who else would watch this?? No cursing (until recently), the stuffed animals, playing with make-up, cute clothing, younger “voice.” It sucks and is so unfair. And they see the “bullies” in chat and kids probably feel like a “savior” to Eugenia and get the positive affirmation from Eugenia with acknowledgement and compliments of “sweet” and “amazing.”

I was anorexic in my early 20s. Eugenia was not around back then and for that I am grateful. Part of the reason I was able to pull myself out of it was because I was tired of being alone. I had pulled myself away from everyone and everything to hide my secret. I think if Eugenia had been around I would have felt like there was someone I could relate to and not have been alone in my own world. I may not have come out of it when I did.

She used to just skip over the comments she didn’t like. Now, she looks for confrontation. She has become a real smart mouth. I used to give her the benefit of the doubt, but she has become obnoxious, especially over the last few months.

Hey Jordy & friends- here is my parent input- I connected my KZfaq 2 my phone & tablet- I can easily see how long my son uses the iPad & what exactly he's watching. Even when I'm not home, I'm looking through what he's watching. If anything bad- I call or txt to tell him to switch it! Lol 😂 as a parent we do need to be on top of these things. Kids do not know better. The blame is never on the child. Ever.

Welcome front. Jordy, you are so weird and I mean that as the highest form of praise. I, too, dabble in the art of weirdness. I more than dabble, I full body plunge.

From my past relationship and some toxic friendships Her subtle gaslighting and mocking really f##ks with my head that’s why I just watch your videos so I don’t let it get to me. I went years being gaslit bad to the point where I lost myself and thought everything in my head was a lie I felt completely insane. After getting away from that I’ve grown and healed but still struggle time to time and listening to her gaslight her whole audience is just infuriating to me. She knows what she’s saying she reads those “hate” comments on purpose to rile everyone up and then gaslight and act like she has no idea..

Just in time for my morning break at work 🤭🤭🤭 I love me some Jordy

Jordy, I work overnights and I appreciate you keeping me company when things are slow and for keeping me awake when I'm exhausted! Keep doing you!

You are a delight. Never stop being you. It has to be said.

Everyone in my life: “We want you to recover!” Me: “Recover from what? My addiction to Jordy videos? Well guys I don’t feel like I need to recover from anything, I’m fine and everything like that.”

The morning uploads really keep me moving at work. I love listening to you as I cook and clean

Eugenia's 2nd to none at ragebaiting the audience. I have to rememberthat consciously whenever I feel the frustration building. It's all intentional and calculated to annoy people cos she knows that gets people talking so increases exposure. ALot of this is business.

Jordy laughs like he ate a retired hedge fund manager And I’m not saying that in a demeaning way because that’s really impressive, he earned that laugh if that’s the case it’s giving landed gentry

Just starting watching this episode and I have to say, Jordy, you are hilarious! That sponsored video was everything. Thank you for keeping me sane through darker days.

as a parent, I don’t think that monitoring your child screen time. Every time they use a device is the solution. Times are so hard right now and with both parents working it should absolutely be on the companies to not expose our children to these things. No parent can monitor their child on online activity 24 seven.

Jordy, for not being a parent, you nailed it! We walk a fine line every day in every regard, even on little things like mealtime. But especially on exposure and social media. I am not looking forward to the teenage years with the way society is now. I remember when my mom found out about my Vampire Freaks account. It used to be a Facebook for gothic people. Now it's a clothing site. Anyway, I was grounded and off the internet for what might have been a year or more. My mom took it too far and told my principal to not allow me to do schoolwork on the internet in the library at school after this incident. It was so embarrassing, and having to cite books only for projects was a headache.

It isn’t Eugenia, tik tok or anyone else’s job to raise someone’s kids. It’s solely the parents job. Kids shouldn’t be online unsupervised. Let alone at all, quite frankly

I was in my teens when dial up internet started being available in most homes. Omg, I saw disturbing things. I’ll never forget seeing that beheading video (that I wasn’t searching for, there was no social media, everything was just all mixed up.). No adults knew what was going on either. As far as social, they need to make up their minds. Either we censor things, or we don’t. It’s the picking and choosing based on what narrative they want to push is what bothers me.

I ended up talking to an older man online when I was a teen. It got weird and creepy really fast. I stopped talking to him.

Yeah, I can think of many things that didn't seem weird at the time, but now set off every alarm I have. For instance my friend's 30 year old brother buying a bunch of us 15 year old girls alcohol....thought he was just a super cool guy at the time. Looking back (Jordy voice)...that was odd...that was odd. More than odd.