i don't even care about Eugenia, I just wanna listen to Jordy while cooking lol

I was anorexic and had the same issues as eugenia. When people showed concern i felt like they were bullying me. I only wanted to be around people who didnt mention my weight. It wasnt until i recovered that i realized all those people cared about me and wanted the best for me. Eugenias brain has most definitely shrunk from malnutrition. Its like everyday her vocabulary gets smaller and shes regressing big time

The chemistry of this panel with Shauna etc, is like a group of people who get stuck in an elevator together

Can we talk about the fact that Eugenia is constantly being infantilized?

It's fascinating and honestly so refreshing to see a tiktok live with normal ass people attempting to have a normal conversation

Can someone explain to me WHY people "give her money"...I knew this, but I am perplexed. Is it to get her to mention THEIR names? I don't see the attraction. Does Jeffree S have people paying him? A multimillionaire? How utterly superficial and toxic. That isn't socializing...

Not gonna lie I’m kind of invested in Shawna 😂 “He’s 5’12.” “All three of my twins have the same birthday.” Like these are GEMS.

I was alarmed when I saw how she acted in the gardening video when she got a bit of dirt on her knee. A three year old would have handled it better. I think it’s all an act to be helpless & child-like. Very so disturbing & creepy.

I think a big issue as well is how infantilized Eugenia is. I often forget she’s almost 30 because of the way she dresses and talks, and Deb hasn’t helped at all in helping her become an adult. That’s why blame is placed on Deb because although Eugenia is technically an adult, she doesn’t have the maturity to make healthy choices for herself.

Eugenia is a classic example of someone surrounding themselves with “yes men”. If you don’t agree with her every word, you’re out.

My selective dyslexia made me read this title as, "Embalming Eugenia Cooney".

33:56 I’ve noticed 2 things about this whole “deodorant” conversation. First, I forget her name but the woman who is talking to Eugenia about the deodorant, is speaking to her, the same way I used to talk to my sons friends (when he was a teenager) if they seemed uncomfortable, or to kind of just make them feel included in the conversation if they were shy. The 2nd thing is, Eugenia has NO IDEA how to speak like a normal person. She just doesn’t have any people skills. She reacted the same way to this woman’s deodorant getting thrown away as she would’ve if the woman said someone died! Really! Go back and look! The way she says “OMG IM SO SORRY” was a RIDICULOUS way to respond to someone telling you their deodorant got thrown in the garbage. It just shows the effects of her never leaving the house and actually talking to people in real life. It’s really sad.

No deodorant and a son who’s 5’12”!! Poor Shawna 🤣😂🤣

Her hair has become very thin. She used to have such shiny, beautiful hair. Watching her old videos, especially after she went to rehab, I believe Eugenia is a beautiful soul and a sweet girl who is in denial. I hope something gives and she gets help and works on herself for her life and future....but I think that would require her to leave all social media behind, and I don't see her willing to do that.

She met this woman 2 minutes ago and tells her she doesn't deserve the negativity and hate. Girl you don't know her, maybe she does deserve it. 😂

Why do we have to feel awkward by acting like she’s not at death’s door? I want to ask her if she’s getting a glimpse at the light or a tunnel yet?

Why do she demand positive vibes only but didn't tell Jeffrey this, when he threaten someone life at the store if they show up and confront Eugenia?!

Eugenias dentist is in Massachusetts and she (and/or Deb) refuse to see any other dentist. Apparently they've known the Dr forever 🙄 (people speculate he ignores the ED & treats her regardless of safety concerns) so they refuse to find a new dentist & literally make the trip every time there's an appointment. Ridiculous! Not sure this is why they're going to Massachusetts *this* time, but just an FYI.... Throwing it out as another possibility. 😊

jordy, jus letting you know that these ‘morning’ uploads are perfect for the Americans but even more perfect for us Australians as it’s right on 12 (at night) here on a Friday for us!! so we often get to see your new content first thing first as a lot of us are heading to bed which for me, is beyond perfection. Regardless of where I am in the world, I know it’ll end up hitting at juuust the right time.. so I thank you for that (especially living in Australia rn, we usually have to wait an extra day jus to consume the best content bc it will be like 5am our time when it gets uploaded). I’m currently 1 week post op from a very complicated & painful surgery so having these videos onboard during my recovery has also been extremely helpful for me in particular. thanks again gorl!! ❤

once anorexia takes hold, the person's capacity can become impaired. Eugenia may lack the capacity to make her own decisions. Debs is too entrenched in this situation to make decisions for Euenia and she also has a young person with disabilities to look after and consider.. Eugenia really needs an independent mental health advocate who can help with best-interest decisions - this is ideally how it works in the UK

MY GOD, Eugenia takes every opportunity to make everything about her!! "Oh I'm sorry your chat is being rude because of mEeeEEEE" goddamn

I think there was plenty chemistry between that group of 4. They were all very nice and actually trying to talk to Eugenia FOR ONCE. And it’s good for her to meet all kinds of people to get over her social anxiety

This woman is just sending her kids to bed while she's on TikTok instead of putting them to bed? Parenting award right there...

I'd like someone to come into her life and get eugenia doing the things that make her happy (not streaming) like drawing and sketching, or finding a new hobby, just things that force her brain into stimulation, and I feel like that could help get her brain in a more receptive state, enriching her mind and soul I think is the key, keeping herself in such a shallow and superficial hobby like the internet isn't feeding the right monster, I truly feel like the start would be guiding her away from validation and into more creative expression like art where validation isn't needed, where it's purely just a peice of someone's spirit. I dunno maybe I'm just a hippie or something lol (def not)

I'm living for Shauna's chaotic self 😂😂

Eugenia looked so out of place in these particlar battles. She looked like an awkward child in the corner who doesn't know how to talk to adults.

Karen Carpenter was a singer/drummer that died in 1983, at the age of 32 due to congestive heart failure, related to Anorexia. 💔

Your videos are helping me stay sober as much as I’m able to I swear. I’ve been batteling alcohol addiction for 10+ years and I’m finally in a program getting help after being in deep denial and around a bunch of enablers for years. Just listening to you talking is calming me and distracts me from my thoughts. To see her so far down in her own addiction is also sad ofc, but she has to want help to change. No one could ever help me, I had to be the one that wanted help. One day in September found myself actually wanting to just drink until I died, because then I at least could die happy. The next day I woke up in fear and panic and told my friend to please take me to the doctor, because I didn’t have it in me to go there by myself. I even tried to convince her to turn around when we were on our way there 5 hours later.. I’m not 100% sober yet, but in october I only had half the amount of beers comparing to the month before. Small steps 😅

I was born in 1971 and The Carpenters were popular in the 70s. I believe Karen died in the early 80s, though. Fun fact - everyone knows Karen for her angelic voice, but she is really considered one of tbe best drummers to ever live!

EC is an adult, but in my opinion her maturity is stunted to a point that she is perpetually 15. She acts very childlike, she seems very helpless in a lot of ways that deb has encouraged. She doesn't drive, she lives with her mother, she doesn't pay rent or have adult responsibility. In my eyes, she is a vulnerable person and shes being exploited by her mother because of all the fans and haaters making their lifestyle possible.

I think I am accidentally forming a parasocial relationship with Jordy because I look forward to these daily vids like a phone call with my bestie.

Karen Carpenter was in recovery when she passed. After a certain point, unfortunately, the damage cannot be reversed :(

EC is really twitchy in the past few videos- she must be in so much pain

I wonder if shes even allowed to be home alone. Like if Deb has to go somewhere, she does too. The same way as we all begrudgingly had to go shopping with our parents

Jordys laugh is everything 😂❤

Eugenia is dying. This is a medical scientific fact, she's in the same state that the people released from concentration camps were at the end of WW2. I'm a dietitian and I've seen people like her and at this stage of disease at this age, there's rarely turning back and premature death is inevitable unless a miracle happens and they accept treatment. If she carries on like this she only has a few years left and possibly much less, that's what we know from statistics of people suffering from AN at this disease stage. Maybe Jeffree has thought about that, I sure hope so.

"She didnt say the script for Michael Jackson"..lmao im dying..that comment made me think of when jordy goes hehe everytime mj is in a video with Eugenia 😂😂😂😂

I don’t understand this form of live streaming with 3 other people yet Eugenia is the only one kind of trailing off to the side having her own coversation! It’s so hard to pay attention because everyone is talking at the same time. Wtf. Thanks jordy for making this way more watchable.

Shauna that’s not trick or treating, that’s being lazy. Just buy your own. Idk I thought it’s supposed to be about dressing up, being with friends, running from house to house, maybe getting up to harmless mischief

Karen Carpenter had the voice of an angel. My parents listened to her when I was growing up. I was born in '80. Not sure why I am invested in this situation with Eugenia, other than - compassion. I have an ED myself, and I genuinely wish for this young lady to get the help she desperately needs.

If you haven’t already, you need to read Jennette McCurdy’s memoir. Not only is it so well written and such a good read, it’s SO relevant to this topic. (Jenette also is the voice of the Audio book and does such a good job if you don’t have time to sit and read). She talks about her experience growing up with a mom who enabled her ED, pushed her to stay in the acting scene when she didn’t want to anymore, etc. I think if Deb wasn’t in the picture, I have no doubt in my mind Eugenia would recover. When Jenette’s mom died, that’s when she hit rock bottom, but that was also what needed to happen for Jenette to recover. Seriously though, please give it a read. It’s SO insightful to hear such a similar struggle through the eyes of the person who has the condition.

Jordy’s morning uploads are my favorite! The best way to start the morning!! Thank you Jordy. I just relapsed again to cancer so these are really helping me cope 🫶🏼

You’re wonderfully intelligent.

I’m down for some more Shauna content tbh 😂

😂 “I was born in ‘96, I think Karen Carpenter was sometime in the 80’s” I love you Jordy! The way you say things, you’re so funny!! Karen Carpenter did pass away in 1983, but people knew of her way before then. Karen started dieting while still in high school. Under doctors' advice, she began the Stillman diet, eating just lean foods and drinking eight glasses of water a day, and avoiding fatty foods. This reduced her weight to 120 pounds until 1973, when the Carpenters' career peaked. Later that year, she saw a photo of herself at a concert and thought she looked "heavy". She hired a personal trainer who told her to change her diet, which caused her to build muscle, making her seem heavier rather than slimmer. Karen fired the trainer, and began her own weight loss schedule by counting calories. She soon lost about 20 pounds and hoped to lose more. Her eating habits saw her getting food off her plate by offering it to others. By 1975, her weight was just about 84 lbs. Some fans had noticed and wrote to ask what may be wrong. She refused to publicly say she was in ill, and in 1981 she said she was just "pooped". Richard (her brother)later said he and his parents didn't know how to help her. She told Richard that she needed help with her anorexia. She chose to be treated in New York City by psychotherapist Steven Levenkron. In the 1980s, Karen also started using thyroid replacement medication, which increased her metabolism, and laxatives, which made food pass quickly. Her condition continued to get worse, and she lost even more weight. In September 1982, she was taken to Lenox Hill Hospital in New York, where she was placed on an intravenous drip. The procedure was a success, and she started gaining weight, but this put a strain on her heart. She managed to keep a stable weight for the rest of her life after this point. On January 11, 1983, Karen made her final public appearance at a gathering of past Grammy Award winners. She looked frail, but according to friend Dionne Warwick, she appeared outgoing, telling everyone: "Look at me! I've got an ass!" On February 1, 1983, Karen saw her brother for the last time, discussing plans for a new Carpenters album. On February 4, she collapsed in her bedroom at her parents' home. Paramedics said her heart was beating once every 10 seconds, and she died at Downey Community Hospital at 9.51am. An autopsy ruled out drugs or a medication overdose, describing her death as "emetine cardiotoxicity due to or as a consequence of anorexia nervosa". She had a blood sugar level of 1,110 milligrams per decilitre, more than ten times the average. The coroner said that Carpenter's heart failure was caused by repeated use of ipecac syrup, an over-the-counter emetic used to induce vomiting. Just in case anyone wanted to know about her. ❤

Why is watching Jordy so addictive?!

Hey Jordy; in the UK the weather is something we love to talk about 🤣🤣

"700 pound person who can't get out of bed and they'll have a boyfriend or girlfriend.. like what I am doing wrong?" Me fr like where have I gone wrong😭😭

I can’t believe she showed her kids to these people

It’s freezing outside guys-so I wore no pants & fishnets, duh!

Being forced to talk to ppl like this is my worst nightmare lol. Its just so awkward & random.

There was an eye-opening show on British tv - supersize vs superskinny. Where really big person would swap diet with a super skinny. Lots of times though much more attention was around how bad the larger in the group does and not skinny people living of off the cigaretts and coffee

Jordy, making the last hour of my shift bearable 😊 the hero we all need 😂

happy Friday everyone!!!!❤

I think the study of Karen Carpenter would be VERY interesting, especially considering the family dynamic for one. Karen has a brother Richard, who apparently (from what I've seen and read) the mother favoured because of HIS musical talent. LOTS to unpack to that story I would say and an interesting comparison. Crossing fingers that you will take a dive into this Jordy. LOVE your work !

I have been loving these morning vids. All curled up in bed watching before I have to get ready for work

Shauna is hilarious!! Also loved the way she semi shut down eugenia every time she tried to apologise about something random

My mom played a big role in my recovery. If it wasn’t for her I wouldn’t be recovered, not only because she paid and got me into therapy and the rehabilitation center but by her support.

I was friend with someone who was anorexic in my teenage years, and it was a very delicate subject. Once she explained to me : « I know I’m not fat, I don’t see myself as fat when I look in the mirror. I would want to gain weight. I don’t think it’s beautiful being that skinny. But it’s not about that. It’s about control. Food is the only thing in my life that I can control right now. » Jordy I don’t think it’s fair when you say that someone who « allows this to happen » isn’t a real friend. I was her friend and was worried for her, but it’s very complicated talking to a person who has ED, especially when refuse to communicate. I encouraged her to take care of herself, and I knew she was making efforts to eat, but I can’t control her actions, you know. I don’t think I was being a bad friend…

I'm over Ewwgena but I am here for the tea..you kill it Jordy

You're so right jordy. A true friend doesn’t let you destroy yourself or your life

Jordy, you remind me of my old boss and friend. I love listening to you speak, and I love how you correct yourself when you learn something new.

There was actually a period of time in her life where the brother and her were in California and Deb would fly back and forth from there to Connecticut and leave Eugenia there. Also if you go back to the beginning of her channel she has at least 20 videos collaborating with other people, like in person. Things used to be very different.

Aw Jordy, you're going to meet the right person when it's time ❤

I love your channel. I really appreciate how you’re able to cover some pretty serious content with humor, and always with respect.

Why is she NEVER visibly angry, I think it would be good for her to let that sh*t out. I heard Deb say ”if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”. Like the worst advice ever, at least if you take it literally. Nobody is nice and cheerful and positive all of the time.

I suffer from BPD borderline personality disorder and I have also been ana and mia. Eds, fear of rejection, early childhood trauma, child abuse sexually, a sense of not knowing who you really are , scared of getting close to people, so you sabotage anything you love or care about before they see you, that person you hate in the mirror. There are other things on the list. This could be a topic we could discuss? People with BPD wear a mask to the world , nas to control the pain you can feel that controlling something-like food makes you feel you have power of what you can or cant eat. I will be honest, i have taken my night meds and am officially a zombie, please excuse my rambling. Mental illness? ❤️⭐️🙏

I think when some of these TikTok people are telling her to be positive and ignore the haters and stuff like that, they might be saying it because they see how sick she is, and maybe they think if they’re really nice and positive to her and say how beautiful she is, ect., it’ll put her in a better place emotionally and she’ll be more likely to feel better about herself and confident and get help, if that makes sense. And by saying she’s beautiful they’re trying to say she doesn’t need to lose any more weight. And they don’t realize they’re enabling and probably doing more harm than good.

Thrilling conversations "My couch squeaks, wanna hear?"

Those of you guys putting the responsibility on Eugenia as an adult, “she has the ability to change her life if she wants to,” I offer you this perspective. We already know that Deb was neglectful. In her “draw my life” video she described being strapped into a car seat for hours, I think overnight too. She became emotionally attached to it and named it Bucket. Her mother must have destroyed her mentally/emotionally. Eugenia NEVER stood a chance. How could she have the capacity to think life like a normal person if her mother robbed her of the chance? This situation is a lot more complicated than any of us could imagine. Eugenia is for sure mentally stunted.. add her ED on top of that and she’s literally a shell. And that’s evident. I mean take a look at her skewed perspective of what genuine friends are. It’s sad. She’s unaware of what the life she is missing even looks like

I think driving your kids for trick or treating really depends where you live. We drove our kids around, because most houses are 1-5 km away from each other. Plus it being -10 C. I'm all for walking if the houses are close enough together.

Karen Carpenter, one of the most beautiful voices to ever sing a song. Lost at 32 to Anorexia 😢 Tragic loss and the first time I had ever heard of anorexia.😢 💔

Jordy, youve become part of my daily commute to work lol your videos help my anxiety and it always helps me start my work day in the right frame of mind! ❤❤❤.and i feel like everytime we dont see her online its bc something is going on behind the scenes, as js says lol, involving the courts or something

notice how eugina doesn’t even engage conversation with them unless it’s something regarding the “hate” comments, (well there could be genuinely mean comments but idk what the comments are the lives are like) like i would forget eugina is even there at times unless it’s about positivity then she’s acknowledable

This evil laugh you have is PRICELESS! 🤣 Love it!!! Don't mess with Shauna people...😂 😂 😂

Lol, I’m laughing at you busting Shawnas chops…I love you Jordy, you make everyone immediately feel like a good friend ❤️

EC is nothing like Karen Carpenter. Karen was an amazing person with wonderful talent. It was a great loss when she passed.

Thanks for the upload jordy its helping me get through work

Jordy crackin' up over Shauna is sending me 🤣

Just getting my Jordy fix this Sunday morning. Thank you Jordy.

Her friends are no more responsible for her condition than you are responsible for the condition of any of your alcoholic friends. It is not their responsibility to fix her nor would it be within their abilities. I would imagine in order to "fix" Eugenia you would have to commit crimes which is not something a friend would do. The same way I can't lock up my alcoholic friends and force them to get sober is the same way that anyone in her life is powerless to stop her. She is the only one who can change.

I HAVE to just say, I was in this livestream with all the people at 43:00 and I could not stop laughing. Eugenia’s entire chat but one person were crying for her to leave this panel of folks bc chat couldn’t hear her and they just wanted to talk with her. But instead she made us all suffer for nearly an hour with these folks while Eugenia stared at the screen 😅it was so brutal. When the panel finally ended, she complained that chat was being too bossy 🙄 it was pretty ridiculous

Good morning Jordy! Thank you for entertaining me on this fine friday at work.

I was a drug addict for many years. I destroyed everyone around me. I knew exactly what I was doing but didn’t care because drugs were more important. I was making the choice every single day to use drugs, and I could blame it on 1 million different things but at the end of the day it was my responsibility and my choice to do what I was doing. Eugenia knows exactly what she’s doing. She doesn’t just know what she’s doing, she flaunts it. She makes the choice everyday to give into her addiction. I don’t feel a single ounce of sympathy for her.She isn’t a young woman. She isn’t a child. Her brain is fully developed. I I honestly believe her eating disorder started because even though she looks like a skeleton, she has a very round face.

There are some really interesting interviews with Karen when she was battling her illness- very much in denial like Eugenia

Jordy could you cover the rich lux, Jesse and Lily Eugenia situation?

You hit the nail on the head, Jordy! Enabling is when we're doing things for another person that they could and should be doing on their own. As a result, enablers make the person comfortable in their situation (whether addiction or ED, etc). Enabling is usually done with good intentions but it doesn't produce good behaviors.

Eugenia does have a bedroom with a standard bed that she showed briefly on one of her videos. But I want to say she mentioned she stores a bunch of stuff in there now. She does shop a lot, I can imagine her actual bedroom is overflowing with stuff. She needs to purge and donate and stop sleeping on the couch.

Happy Friday! Loving these (almost) daily uploads! Don’t forget to rest! Thank you for all you do! ❤

I feel like Deb is just resigned to the inevitable at this point. We don't know what she's done trying to get Eugenia better. We don't know the yelling, screaming, crying, bribing, begging, etc that's been done over the years. We also don't know how abusive Eugenia herself may have been or may be to her mother. The way Eugenia handles people in her chat who are concerned is overtly dismissive, and subtly mean. Now turn the camera off and I can easily see her going insane towards her mother. Eugenia could very well be the abusive one and Deb has just been beaten down. The few things I've seen of Deb in these videos just reminds me of an abused wife of an alcoholic. They just try to keep the peace - say and do whatever it takes to try not to get beaten that day. In Deb's case, knowing that if her daughter gets angry or upset because Deb says any little thing wrong - it could cause Eugenia to have a heart attack - makes the need to be submissive that much more intense. Of couse, I'm just speculating - but thought I'd do it from Deb's side for a change. I don't know if there's an equivalent to Al-Anon for family of anorexics - but Deb should be going to it. If there's not, then Al-Anon can serve that purpose.

OMG I WAS DYING LAUGHING AT 5’12” DECEASED HAHA

"Im dead shawna just said her son is 5, 12'" Oh man that made my day 😅

Shauna seems more preoccupied with tiktok than her kid saying goodnight. Go tuck your damn kid in, don't tell her goodnight like a roommate lmao

The Trick or Treating with parents driving up and down the street is so dangerous. Those people would annoy the crap out of me when I took my little sister out. They're not paying attention to the road on a night where kids are hopped up on candy and dopamine and make more poor choices than usual. 😩 If you're not going to put in the steps, don't do it. Go do trunk or treating or something else. Watching Eugenia's face when the kids came on the screen, I don't know if I'm reading into it, but I see a little sadness and confusion. Shawna is sassy, but you can tell she loves her kids. This is the most "normal" group of people I've seen her with and Eugenia is completely silent unless asked a question or when they talk about negative comments. She would benefit being surrounded by everyday people rather than J* kind of people, imo.

“Well hun. I don’t know if there’s much to break down” 🔥 🤣 Jordy you’re hilarious

Recently found you. Love it. I laugh out loud and that’s not easy to make me do 😂😂😂😂

I'm so glad Jordy caught the 5 12 son I was 💀😂😂😂. Also it took us longer to have the kids get in and out of the car at every house for trick or treating then it did to walk and Jordy's right it's not trick or treating but I didn't want to walk in the rain 🌧️

I don't think it's because she doesn't have a choice. Let me rephrase.. she might not have a choice if Deb or someone is making her go to MA, but I don't think she wants to come off to her audience as being forced to do something by real adults. I think she's trying to make it appear as if she is the real adult and she's got to go do real adult business like a normal person. I think that she really got a taste of what it feels like to live a little in Wyoming and it made her feel important as if she was an actual part of society. Saying "gotta go to MA for a few days" is just Eugenia being intentionally vague to her audience to cause/inspire intrigue and create a fake sense of her being an important part of society. Like she's a traveling business woman with lots of important normal societal things to do. See guys, I don't just sit in my room all day, I'm a grown woman and I travel and I have best friends. I'm a woman on the go! (If you know Luxeria, you know the reference lol)

Im from Connecticut, alot of bigger ED treatment centers are in MASS.

I literally was thinking to myself “Shauna would be a great person to make videos about” then you said it yourself! I’d watch those so fast lol. Thanks for the entertaining dissection as always!