Every 2016+ Camaro SS Bolt-On Part Dyno Tested Back-to-Back! Intake, Headers, Manifold, etc.

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National Speed

National Speed

Жыл бұрын

What can we say, we love sharing real-world results! And in this video, we show you how much juice you get for the squeeze with each of our preferred common bolt-on parts for the LT1-powered 2016+ Chevrolet Camaro SS! Starting with a 100% stock baseline on the dyno, we install & tune each part back-to-back and compare the results. Follow along and see how each stacks up!
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@Blakehenry11
@Blakehenry11 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Answered all my questions.
@J.Wick.
@J.Wick. Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Invaluable information. Thanks for making this!
@paisano316
@paisano316 Жыл бұрын
427 rwhp completely stock baseline is really good. These cars typically baseline around 400 rwhp but the power can vary by car! I’m jealous!!
@kevindutter9068
@kevindutter9068 Жыл бұрын
I think it has to do with it being a stick car, less drivetrain loss
@michaelcalvert9743
@michaelcalvert9743 Жыл бұрын
​@@kevindutter9068 the manual typically dyno 400-405. The auto are around 375-380. 427 stock in this video would mean this car only had 6.15% drivetrain loss.
@jerzey22
@jerzey22 Жыл бұрын
@@kevindutter9068 nope it’s the dyno setting. STD is standard when they should be testing in SAE
@JussDraftfr
@JussDraftfr 8 ай бұрын
thats cap. its 400 whp for the 2016+ ss lmaoo @@michaelcalvert9743
@al151
@al151 2 ай бұрын
Guys. Cars read different on dynos, don’t hang up on the numbers but the delta gain. Here the dyno is using Standard Correction not SAE. So it is a 400 whp car on an accurate dyno. What sucks about it is you are paying $$$ for 36 whp gain. Not worth it. You need to add cam setup or go supercharger route.
@arj8358
@arj8358 10 ай бұрын
Got the same stuff done to my gto with the ls2
@seektruth8662
@seektruth8662 Жыл бұрын
Very pleased new subscriber here. Your video is thoughtful, informative and intelligent. No clickbait, yelling, bad acting, fake excitement or dumb jokes. A professional type of serious but not boring. My son just bought a 2018 Mustang GT and I hope you do a similar bolt-on comparison for that. Thanks.
@Game-The-System
@Game-The-System 6 ай бұрын
Did I see the stock strut brace on AFTER the new intake was installed?
@brianharris1566
@brianharris1566 Жыл бұрын
This made more power than the 5.0 and scatpack with the same mods. Hell yeah!
@mr.eastcoastgrow6132
@mr.eastcoastgrow6132 Жыл бұрын
My brother has a scat and my cousin has a 5.0. I have a Fifty edition Camaro and I'm faster than both. The scat can give me a run up in 100mph range but that's it. The mustangs actually a dog.
@Hauser03
@Hauser03 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.eastcoastgrow6132what year 5.0?
@ZZ-ed6wp
@ZZ-ed6wp Ай бұрын
No it doesn’t, the mach1 they dynoed put down 500hp to the tire with headers and e85
@02gtdbzfan
@02gtdbzfan 8 ай бұрын
Baseline on the SS is impressive but not entirely unexpected. I was a little surprised that the mods didn’t add more power. Watching the same mods occur on a 5.0 is very interesting. But they are certainly very different engines. What do the baselines on a Dodge look like?
@gurayoanriveraortiz5478
@gurayoanriveraortiz5478 2 ай бұрын
Curious! Ive seen other videos with lower baseline, installing same items ( cold air intake, intake manifold, long tube headers) making 500+ whp.
@Highlander1432
@Highlander1432 Ай бұрын
Yeah with E85 flex tune
@chasehamilton7797
@chasehamilton7797 Жыл бұрын
Might be a silly question, but did you guys do a tune after each mod before testing, or did you just bolt em on and go?
@JussDraftfr
@JussDraftfr 11 ай бұрын
its fbo. no need for a tune
@muskytuned
@muskytuned 11 ай бұрын
@@JussDraftfr :30 It was stated it was tuned at each stage. It's a big misconception that just bolting on parts gives you gains. All of these parts need a proper calibration. That rotofab intake changes the maf scaling and requires a tune. Same goes for the intake manifold and throttle body. The headers are a little more forgiving but definately need a tune to optimize the gains.
@JussDraftfr
@JussDraftfr 11 ай бұрын
@@muskytuned hmm, ok I stand corrected. You’re right
@staychiefinangelito5084
@staychiefinangelito5084 9 ай бұрын
10 hp each item don’t seem right
@ESPG
@ESPG Жыл бұрын
What kind of power do you think a nice aggressive cam bored 30 over and stroked. I know this is a terrible question, but I just bought a 2020 2ss. Any guesses would be great! Thanks
@BMEmarc
@BMEmarc Жыл бұрын
In my opinion probably 550+ rwhp
@Game-The-System
@Game-The-System 6 ай бұрын
​@@BMEmarcThat​ must be assuming all the other bolt-ons installed first, right?
@gmtrumanandrade6145
@gmtrumanandrade6145 Жыл бұрын
Hi, how much would it cost to bolt ons Camaro?
@sergebasque8460
@sergebasque8460 8 ай бұрын
Did you have to recalibrate the air-fuel and timing for these new parts, who are you tune from .Excellent gain.😊
@Highlander1432
@Highlander1432 Ай бұрын
Of course
@392blikks3
@392blikks3 Жыл бұрын
Would y’all tune a 2018 V6 3.6 liter Camaro Rs ? Or only V8s
@invertedpolarity6890
@invertedpolarity6890 3 ай бұрын
For a fraction of the price, you can install a modified LT2 intake and get 90% of the gains.
@Luisito3398
@Luisito3398 4 ай бұрын
Did you need to do a tune after all the bolt ons? I have the same car and I'm going to purchase the same
@blakececil4905
@blakececil4905 2 ай бұрын
Yeah after any modification you should tune otherwise you could be losing power
@vibhuiyer6984
@vibhuiyer6984 Жыл бұрын
How would you compare the msd to the c8 manifold
@mike88wt
@mike88wt 3 ай бұрын
If you stay bolt on get the lt2 ported. Msd can’t beat me and im stick. If you cam then go ahead and do msd
@behnamzamani5907
@behnamzamani5907 Жыл бұрын
Hi buddy I see a mopar in the back lol Iam a dodge guy but ready to eather get a challenger scat 2020 or 2021 or go Chevy ya I know Chevy a ton lighter not as much comfort but liability witch one would you get and would be for fun
@rdgsupafli
@rdgsupafli Жыл бұрын
If u want to more comfort and be gay like mopar because of rappers get the mama 4 door soccer car. If you want speed reliability and excellent handling and fun factor get a Camaro ss or zl1
@zoob4371
@zoob4371 Жыл бұрын
do these high flow catalytic converters pass emissions in new york?
@nicholasborrelli7544
@nicholasborrelli7544 Жыл бұрын
Just get a flex fuel sensor and tune and call it a day. That's 30whp right there easy for cheap
@pb24dagrk
@pb24dagrk Жыл бұрын
The 6rwhp gain was with the tune. Most gains are.
@hunterlilley1228
@hunterlilley1228 8 ай бұрын
Why no e85?
@ZZ-ed6wp
@ZZ-ed6wp Ай бұрын
So about 480 wheel with e85 FBO for a Camaro. Not bad
@CJ-vz5bl
@CJ-vz5bl Жыл бұрын
No e85?
@gbass7328
@gbass7328 8 ай бұрын
At no time is the engine tune shown as a gain. Was this motor not tuned for these pulls? How much did it add and when in this process?
@Highlander1432
@Highlander1432 Ай бұрын
Lol Tune is required for all these mods or you'll get an Xmas tree of lights on your dash and car won't run well
@Highlander1432
@Highlander1432 Ай бұрын
We've entered the times of labor and tuning costing twice what the parts do. What are these laborers going to do when a machine can do all the work at 1/50th the cost ?
@LMBC6Brian
@LMBC6Brian 2 ай бұрын
This stage three package is what, $1000? I don’t see much more value than that power wise.
@deanthonyhicks69
@deanthonyhicks69 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much e85 would add. I'm thinking around 20 hp.
@al151
@al151 Жыл бұрын
Most likely. But you can get a flex tune and dial in for both pump gas and e85.
@guerrero12009
@guerrero12009 Жыл бұрын
For me it gave me 30 more HP just on e85
@pb24dagrk
@pb24dagrk Жыл бұрын
I gained 35rwhp over my 91 octane baseline
@TheJMan1K
@TheJMan1K Жыл бұрын
@@pb24dagrkwhat parts? And was anything else added when you went to E?
@pb24dagrk
@pb24dagrk Жыл бұрын
@@TheJMan1K e85 was my first mod :)
@miketym2642
@miketym2642 Жыл бұрын
Was this tuned after each modification?
@Lucas22748
@Lucas22748 Жыл бұрын
I 100% bet it was. Otherwise it would run like shit
@JussDraftfr
@JussDraftfr 11 ай бұрын
@@Lucas22748 doubt it, mine dont and others dont get a tune for fbo
@Zilla17707
@Zilla17707 10 ай бұрын
Yeah u can bolt on all of these mods on a stock camaro without a tube and you won’t see more than 5 if any hp gain plus your car would run like crap. They 100 percent tuned the car after installing the mods
@gtrance3567
@gtrance3567 13 күн бұрын
Probably needed a tune right?
@davidciesielski8251
@davidciesielski8251 Жыл бұрын
It is really hard to beat gm.
@zl1_antt468
@zl1_antt468 Жыл бұрын
Part number for the spark plugs ?
@NationalSpeedInc
@NationalSpeedInc Жыл бұрын
NGK LTR6IX-11.
@zl1_antt468
@zl1_antt468 Жыл бұрын
@@NationalSpeedInc thank you !
@ellisdaniels1796
@ellisdaniels1796 Жыл бұрын
Would I need spark plugs for fbo
@PrismIsAPuck
@PrismIsAPuck Жыл бұрын
@@ellisdaniels1796 no
@08turboSS
@08turboSS 5 ай бұрын
The downside is having to waste 4k on AFM delete kit if you got a A8/10 trans.
@anastassiosgotoglou
@anastassiosgotoglou Жыл бұрын
Is this rwhp or Engine hp.
@JussDraftfr
@JussDraftfr 11 ай бұрын
its on a dyno, u can see the wheel spins bro lol its whp
@panero718
@panero718 6 ай бұрын
I’m starting to regret the LT1 platform. You need to spend a lot to get peanuts for gains damn man . I’m trying to hit 650 HP to the wheel
@gdevonfarley
@gdevonfarley 3 ай бұрын
Flex fuel kit
@Fluke2SS
@Fluke2SS Жыл бұрын
Funny how some people test rotofabs with rwhp gain, while others see no gain at all vs a stock intake. Can't help but wonder who is right and who is wrong?
@Clutch_Kick187
@Clutch_Kick187 Жыл бұрын
Close the hood and there is no gain.. You don't drive down the road with your hood up..
@super8mate
@super8mate Жыл бұрын
@@Clutch_Kick187 yeah, it’s for noise and looks. CAI gains alone are barely measurable.
@jerzey22
@jerzey22 Жыл бұрын
@@Clutch_Kick187 correct!! No one tests CAI correctly they all do this hood open crap to sell parts
@mmf9765
@mmf9765 Жыл бұрын
Dang it’s a factory freak lol
@al151
@al151 Жыл бұрын
Every dyno reads different. If you put another stock and it puts less power and torque on the same day running same gas then you can say that.
@Sneaky5.sl0w.
@Sneaky5.sl0w. Жыл бұрын
Happy dyno
@jerzey22
@jerzey22 Жыл бұрын
Nope no such thing in this day and age. They tested in STD not SAE
@jerzey22
@jerzey22 Жыл бұрын
Cool now test it with the hood closed and set the dyno in SAE 😂
@TorqueMachine
@TorqueMachine Жыл бұрын
They lost all credibility when I saw that. They even had a fan blowing air towards it...
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 9 ай бұрын
Any dyno with hood open adds,12-18 hp and does NOT reflect actual driving, but rather, in a parking lot meet or gathering, sitting there.
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 9 ай бұрын
Never trust ANY speed shop when they use STD and open hood. If you do, deduct 15-20hp.
@jameswhitesell3076
@jameswhitesell3076 9 ай бұрын
​@@TorqueMachineyou have to to simulate moving
@yummyhershey5902
@yummyhershey5902 8 ай бұрын
@@jameswhitesell3076he's talking about blowing air into an open hood. No one drives with an open hood, however I'm not sure how much hp that's really worth in this case
@kevincoulimbe3974
@kevincoulimbe3974 8 ай бұрын
All at work and all that money for 54 horsepower more not sure if all that money was worth it 5700 hund to get 54 horsepower more
@08turboSS
@08turboSS 2 ай бұрын
Close that hood first. People do not cruise around with the hood wide open to cool their engines so dont dyno it that way.
@michaelpopp6340
@michaelpopp6340 5 ай бұрын
Too much money for less than 10% gains. I'd say either get a little happy gas or a blower instead.
@invertedpolarity6890
@invertedpolarity6890 3 ай бұрын
WTF! RTV on an MLS exhaust manifold gasket?! That is just plain stupid.
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 10 ай бұрын
They didnt close the hood. Thats cheating by keeping engine cool.
@Game-The-System
@Game-The-System 6 ай бұрын
My educated guess is that this is a trade-off. While there might be some added cooling effect from the hood being open (especially with the fans blowing), you also likely lose some of the compressive effect of the air being forced into the engine bay (and the intake).
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 10 ай бұрын
427 rwhp??? Not on a trock car, no way. These have been around 380 to 405.
@DullerCrab
@DullerCrab 10 ай бұрын
Every dyno result I’ve seen bone stock reads around 425+ rwhp, it’s no lie
@jameswhitesell3076
@jameswhitesell3076 9 ай бұрын
Every dyno is different, and there are different correction settings
@walt669
@walt669 Жыл бұрын
I have something to say…… MOPAR baby let’s go Mopar or no car. 10 days and counting
@poopinator22
@poopinator22 11 ай бұрын
Mustang makes 3HP less with a smaller motor!
@hunnterful1
@hunnterful1 10 ай бұрын
Mustangs are twice the size of this LT1
@hunnterful1
@hunnterful1 10 ай бұрын
Mustangs have 32 valves 😂
@poopinator22
@poopinator22 10 ай бұрын
@@hunnterful1 WOOOOOW someone clearly doesn't know jack shit about engines SMH
@DullerCrab
@DullerCrab 10 ай бұрын
@@poopinator22The 5.0L Coyote in the Mustang makes similar power with a smaller displacement, but has 32 valves and 4 camshafts to make up that difference (the LT1 only has 16 valves and 1 camshaft). It’s not rocket science or anything, they make their power in their own ways, larger displacement vs a more complicated engine. I could argue that the Z06 Corvette that makes 670hp out of a 5.5L engine is so much better than 5.0L Coyote, but that’s just a dumb argument
@Game-The-System
@Game-The-System 6 ай бұрын
Another drawback of all those valves and cams on the upper engine that is often overlooked is where the weight is located. All other things being even, I'll gladly take a slightly larger engine with a lower weight distribution than one where a large portion of the weight is located higher. Handling matters.
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