Narcissists do not reflect on their own behaviors. They will never apologize because they will never acknowledge their wrongs. For anything they did wrong they will blame others for causing them to make those mistakes.

What still surprises me is their lack of embarrassment when caught in a lie.

I learned that narcissistic accountability is yet another self-serving act and a precursor to more heartbreak. They want to pull us back down after getting our hopes up. Make use of an apology like it's a 10-day weather outlook and expect the saga to continue.

"Yeah, I treated you poorly for the first six months of our relationship, but you were really abusive towards me for the last five years of our relationship! I don't know why you won't talk to me anymore! I changed, but you're still terrible! 😭😭😭" - my ex before I finally changed my number, two years after my going no contact. His 'poor behavior' included verbal abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse, financial abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse and it lasted for literal years, not the six months that he thought it did. My 'abusive behavior' towards him was... *checks notes* trying to set boundaries and being unwilling to have sex with my literal rapist. Ah, yes. How cruel of me.

They're very predictable in their behavior and reactions that living with them is actually boringly unbearable once you figured them out.

My narc ex-friend *laughed* as she told me I can't blame her for not listening to me since I'm so boring. I can't believe I stayed friends with that b**ch for several more years!!! My rule now: reciprocity and empathy or get out! 🚫🧛‍♂🚫

When my narc dad apologized, it was often conditional. I 'might' have. 'Maybe' I didn't... then veer to "no one is perfect. We all make mistakes" and finish with "but you're not blameless either... (insert whatever lame behavior he could fault me for at the time). It took me a while to notice the pattern. It's insane how their minds work.

It's no mistake that my ex does this "apology" performance when a therapist, parenting coordinator, lawyer, or other person in a role of influence is present. In the past I did not respond, and then he would be given pats on the back for "admitting" to things while blame shifting. It was maddening. So, I've grown a set, as they say, and now I do calmly but firmly interject (even interrupt if needed) and respond with, "This isn't about what I did/didn't do, this is about what [ex's name] did/didn`t do and the choices he made." I do not address him directly. Instead, I pretend he is not even there and speak only to the other person present. I don't know if this is the best approach, but at a minimum I've stood up for myself and that makes me feel good.

My eldery Narc mother went berserk on my 50th birthday for no reason and I got a 3 day rage episode of verbal abuse. Afterwards, she said 'I'm sorry you got so upset'. When I replied, with relief, I'm glad you're apologizing because you literally went crazy, her reply was to go into a rage again and tell me, oh you don't understand, I wasn't apologizing for anything I said to you, I meant every word and would say it again, what I was sorry for was that you were so weak. So- trauma was compounded. Don't ever bother expecting them to be accountable to you.

When I would call out suspected narcissists, the arguments would usually devolve into a lot of "Well, what about when you did XYZ?!" but the cherry on top would be some variation of "I'm DEPRESSED!/I have so much going on!" to deflect from what they've done.

Oh boy....a parent sent me a gift card, that they stole (so it wasnt activated, of course) it was then my fault that I was upset to be left standing at a register with an armful of clothing I couldn't afford, with a gift card that was "dead". I called said parent while standing aside from the register, and was told off for "being stingy and accusing her of lying". Embarrassing and hurtful. I was a young adult who had newly moved 1400 miles away from home. I am grateful for the struggle in that initial move because I gained distance from the chaos.

It’s inevitably turned around on you. Always. Even if it’s not verbally. It can be followed by cold shoulder or the fake “moping around pout”

My narcissist copped to having treated me poorly during our marriage saying he wished he had ‘done better’. In this case I believe he was testing me for a Hoover rather than teeing up for an insult to me. In any case, it made me suspicious that he was behaving out of character.

One of the things the abuser in my life does, is to "cop to the bad behaviour," then he expects to be lauded as "the hero" for admitting their wrong.

Yep, when my ex was actually “accountable” the a rage episode was always the next thing coming.

My ex admitted that he treated me poorly and continued to do it over and over because he didn't think I would leave. After that, I was supposed to just forget all the abuse and take him back. He's very angry at me. He feels like he wasted his time.

This is what kept me trapped in my “tricky family” for years. I felt confused, hurt, like I couldn’t trust my own perception. And then when things blew up, I was antagonized so severely I was provoked into reactive abuse (I hate that term, to be honest - I’d rather call it self-defense). I’m so glad that I’m in a place where I can finally start to heal.

I saw this type of advanced manipulation when my ex started going to therapy. Watch out y'all... if your narcissistic partner goes to therapy NOT because they want to acknowledge their narc tactics but just so they can "feel better" for themselves. Yea... they only because a million times smarter as abusers.

And what of the situation where the narcissists behavior has been so consistently neglectful etc. That finally, we snap and react in a manner that we are not proud of, which they then use to make us look like the 'bad guy'? It seems to me, in any relationship with a narcissist, accountability is expected to operate in only one direction.

My narc father always says ' I don't remember' when my brother and I tell him how we felt when we were kids and he was so abusive (physically, psychologically). Now, he's started digging out old photos and saying 'you don't look unhappy in this picture or this one, as if a snapshot which represents a second of time is somehow representative of a day, week, month, year, decade... Thank you again, Dr Romani, for the valuable perspective you bring to these crazy people, which helps me to not let their craziness infect my life anymore.

He calls me toxic when I call him out on his behavior bc it “starts an argument”

If you are contemplating marrying a man with adult children, make sure you get to know them. If one is a narcissist, you are doomed from the start. They will never ever let you have peace.

I think sometimes they just can't get out of admitting they did wrong so they keep score of your wrongs so they have something to knock you down with. Like my uncle trying to hold me accountable at 37 for calling someone a jackass when I was like 7 or 8 years old, which I don't even remember and possibly didn't happened. It also seems that them having to admit to something wrong means you being forever punished for calling them out or just catching them, even if you caught them by accident.

This method was something my ex husband was a pro at doing. There was no way whatsoever to criticize him even a little bit without him turning it on me and, yes, going for the jugular. So glad that's over with now. Thanks, Dr. Ramani!

A coworker on a work project owned up to lying and gaslighting me specifically then in all earnestness, told me it was my fault they did that because I wouldn't go along with their grandiose behavior nor buckle under to their multiple flying monkeys.

My father and I have the same name. I was on vacation and he sold the house I was living in pretending to be me. it was $800,000 and he still believes it was his right because he abandoned me as a 12 year old boy. He left me with a pedophile. He came back to save his reputation and forced me to say I was never abused. If I didn't agree he would take me to a room and beat me unconscious. He feels that the "raised" me so everything I own is his.

This has happened to me multiple times. It's a strategy they use to try to get out of apologizing to you. Sort of like the "you made me hit you" excuse which was often used on one of my friends who was once married to a foul tempered violent person

My mother once psychologically forced me to rewrite the birthday wishes I wrote for her on the card (I was 24yo)... then she "politely" said she didn't like the colour of the roses I bought her, that the gift shouldn't have been that bulky (15 cm chrystal item), and the money I gifted her (USD 1.5K) wasn't enough (that was all I had). Glad I completely closed that sick relationship after a year or so. Sad to realise she's the person I lived the most, until I saw the sick patterns get worse and worse

All I did was wear out the I'm sorry phrase for 30 year's with never receiving any apologies for anything or anyone.. I have learned not to be the I'm sorry weakling they all liked me to be.. Narcissist don't apologize. they feel nothing 👍💯

As a therapist (and survivor), I've heard all of these examples. Spot on! And as an evolution to these behaviors, "[T-ing up to get a win]" or the "curvy gaslight", a person might be convinced to get back in the relationship with excuses of "they must have grown", "they did their work". Because that "win" is coming to haunt you at just the right time, as in: "no, I made a mistake, but YOU are abusive", or now they are collecting "evidence" (receipts) that "see, I'm right - you are the sick one in the relationship", etc. Rest assured, it's coming. Once they show you who they are - move on and let them deal with their own stuff. Actually, run away.

They are "Yeah But You" arguers you did such in such. Adding layers to confuse you!

I've heard others say that I think I'm better than anyone else. Honestly they twist issues to serve themselves. I just heard the statement that I'm ungrateful. I'm not. I take everyday as precious.❤

There is also the variant where the narcissist admits and then says that you do it too (and therefore you are judgmental and a hypocrite) and in fact everyone does it

My ex-husband (extremely covert) said his year + affair was bc he couldn't talk to me, and he needed a friend...😂....I can laugh at it now (kinda), but he had no problem blaming me for his affair and allowing me to feel like crap for it....I'm now at the point where I finally realized others actions have nothing to so with me and are never my responsibility but this video totally hits home.

My sister will cop to doing horrible things to me, then downplay my own feelings and emotions about it. Or in front of other people, she’ll not only downplay it, but turn it around and say that I need to stop bringing up the past. Telling me that I’m the childish one because I can’t let things go. Even when it just happened the last time I saw her. I limited how often I’d see her. To only around Thanksgiving. But after the last time, of her holding a puppy in her arms and punching it in the ribs for a whole minute. Can you imagine a puppy yelping for a whole minute. Then after yelling ( stop it, stop it, stop it ) holding my hands over my ears. She then lashes at me saying “ I’ll do whatever the h*ll I want to do, to my own f*cking dog. “ It was so traumatic that I never went back. But kept in contact once a month, out of hope that she’d become better in a few more months or years. After watching your videos, has opened my eyes and I have come to the sad realization that she is never going to change and I will never have that sisterly bond I’ve always wanted and never got. Thank you so very much for the work you do and the awareness you bring to the world. I greatly appreciate it and try to watch your videos every morning. Because it helps me to not fall back into hoping that my sister will change and become better and nicer with age.

Oh my god, I’m so glad you made this video. My boyfriend cops to his faults, and it almost made me think he wasn’t a narcissist. Whenever he would make a mistake he’d throw it back on me or say, “This isn’t a big deal, you’re just being a freak, you’re the only person who would act this way.” He would admit to it, but he always had a reason to not do it and therefore it was my problem. He actually made me think that I was asking for too much or that I was too uptight when I was asking for the most basic, simple things.

Good Lord, Dr. Ramani, you've got the narcissist DOWN PAT!

Wow, I’ve had an entire lifetime of this experience with my family, then friends. Forgive and forget broke me. When I deal with a coach or therapist trying to sell me forgiveness, I get so pissed. I’m still finding my way. Realizing my unconscious participation to this was really freeing. I can now see them, and avoid ever getting myself into these situations from the start, I get better at it every day.

Brilliant. Just when I start to think you couldn't explain things any better. I think this is a core issue with a lot of us here. They occasionally cop to their behavior and we inaccurately view it as a moment of clarity, cooperation, or healthy vulnerability, further allowing us to enable the abusive behavior. Thank you so much for showing us what to watch for.

My experience says if they admit something horrible it is either they did some secret thing even worse or are about to do something even worse to pay back for admitting they are mean, dishonest etc.and their shame and humiliation having had admitted the rot they did... Monsters!

When I confronted the situations, I was told “you’re just collateral damage. You’re in line of fire.” And I’ve never been back to visit my in-laws. Now they say “she won’t talk to us!” No, I told them I won’t be treated like this and walked away when it was clear nothing was changing. Simple.

My guy, as far as I know, did not lie about anything major; instead, he just wouldn’t take no for an answer, and so over the years I agreed to a number of things-major things, like a wedding officiant and a house purchase-that I didn’t really want to agree too. Shortly before we split up he acknowledged that he had coerced me in those instances. No apology; just owning that he had coerced me and that I never really had a chance to get what I wanted or to reach a compromise. Those admissions made it a lot easier for me to leave.

Your videos are so validating and give me hope.

Yes, this video explains a lot. It's like a hideous DARVO stew- your literally going around in circles with them. I'd receive an insincere non specific blanket apology for "their behavior" via txt (in regards to abuse towards our daughter and i written by his gf), with follow up accusations like "yeah but what about you- your not perfect either!, you've made mistakes too". Trying to drag me down to his level of behavior then accuse me of "stopping him from being a father", and " his needs are just as important as hers, if not more so- because he's the father"😂. When I said no, her needs are most important, the rage came then threats/triangulation. I can laugh now as can my daughter, after years of learning, but omg, these people are a sick combo.

My ex fiancé told me that he “absolves himself from any wrong doing” after I caught him cheating. His mother said I “must have driven him to cheat on me”. He said I need to take responsibility for my role in the situation.

Thank you for this video. My narc parents' flying monkey uses this as Proof that "They're apologizing. They're acknowledging. You're being ridiculous for not forgiving. Look how much pain you're causing them." And my parents' "apology/acknowledgement" was almost verbatim the line here from the video. All they did was say, repeatedly, "I can't believe we raised such an ungrateful monster. You disgust me. Shame on us." Flying Monkeys also live in a different reality.

I see you’ve met my exhusband… WORD FOR WORD on the cheating!!

My ex would try to make his confession/admission of something as now he shouldn't be held accountable to the behavior and is off the hook for bad behavior, even though the behavior is repeated over and over. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Dr. Ramani, I ❤️ when you are passionate on a topic and let the occasional colorful word slip. It seems very genuine and relatable. Thank you for all you do.

I find it even more awfully amazing, when they cop to doing something that overrode the court - and the court doesn’t even care! Judge will sit there and watch a half hour of tears, smearing, blame shifting - and won’t even allow you to hardly respond! Goes to show how much that, too, is a narcissistic playground. Because a JUDGE can be quite easily manipulated - regardless of evidence! Regardless of copping to something. Regardless of being caught doing something.

I went on a vacation with a former friend who's a malignant narcissist [I didn't know at the time]. He went crazy with deregulated behavior, narcissistic rages, etc..., he admitted to how terrible he was treating me, but said, that he was angry with me for making him feel terrible, even though I did nothing to make him feel terrible. He hated feeling that way and it was my fault!!

I have a covert neighbor that came over one day grinning from ear to ear, he was so proud of himself for his evil behavior. He thought there was going to be a fight and he would get attention from me. I broke one of the cardinal rules (never call out a narcissist) I said "I know what you are". He looked at me puzzled and asked"what?". I turned and started walking back into the house and said "good bye narcissist". I have not acknowledged his existence since then. He did go to every neighbor here and tell them that I was a narcissist. I have thick skin so it didn't hurt me that I was called a narcissist, and it got that word out in the open to warn others here. He still tries from time to time to get flying monkeys in. But I just ignore them as well and when they are unsuccessful he shows his true personality.

Thanks Dr.Ramani , Some narcissists are intelligent and skilled in their manipulations.

My vulnerable narc tends to fess up to mistakes and will then use her admition to demand rule changes and then i have to sit and argue the rule changes. And if i dont want to talk about it i become someone who isnt being reasonable.

He even admitted that he is a natcissist, arrogant, that he analyzes sbd studies people's personalities and regulates his attitude and behaviour, accordingly. He said all that himself! What happened after that? He became even worse and more sadistic towards me ! Finally! I left him for real! I rejected his hooverings! Thank you Dr. Ramani . I woke up !!! I became me, again !

This is the emotional equivalent of a sucker-punch.

It will affect them most in the end. Narcissism is self-destructive. And research has shown bullies are 10-25 times more likely than their own victims to develop a psychiatric condition.

Another thing these "things" like to do is try to make you out to be similar to them, only to make themselves sound better than you at all turns.

After this manipulation tactic happening for so many years, I stopped reacting to anything he said. I froze when he had rages and walked away without reacting to his devaluing comments. It was his way of creating the dramatic final discard, telling me he was in love with another woman. He got such pleasure from dumping that "surprise" on me but I was so exhausted I didn't give him the desired reaction. He was stunned and tried to shock me more by giving me intimate details of his betrayal and the affair. I was numb. Somehow, I found a lawyer and quickly got things in motion to divorce him. I was gone in 10 days with very few words and showed no emotion.... at the time. The healing part has taken 3 me years of No Contact, blocking all communication and still working on it. I will never be the same sweet person I was during that nightmare marriage.

They certainly go for the jugular, don't they?! I have said on many occasions that they use a steam roller to knock over an ant hill.

Until I saw these videos, I didn't actually know it was a pattern of narc people... my mom did it to me until I ran away, and soon after met my husband who gaslighted me for whole 20 years togetger

Sounds like my fmr-husband's responses. And one of the kids started doing it which is when I realised how damaging and dangerous to the kids 😢 That kiddo is displaying behaviours symptomatic of BPD and I can't do anything about it. They're an autonomous adult. Whenever my fmr-husband starts to be polite I have to actively remember "he's up to something" and ask myself "what is he up to?". He's only pleasant when he requires me to do something that he at least needs to pretend he asked for my cooperation. He does what he wants anyway, even when it means breaking the Law. If he could figure out a way to falsifying my signature damned straight he would.

Thank you! Oh my gosh yes! This is so common. And thank you for highlighting that it isn't just in the big things it's in the little things to the subversiveness of this kind of gaslighting along with several other types is mind boggling and crazy making because it's not as overt as some of the other versions

"Yes, I did this horrible thing and you NEED to forgive me NOW so everything will go back to normal" "Oh and NEVER bring it up gain or thing about it EVER!"

Funny, after all the sneaky evil stuff they do, they present themselves as the victim.

You crack me up Doc , you don’t seem like you’re from California, the words and phrases you use seem to resonate with (us) southerners 😅😅😅, I love that ❤❤❤❤

LOL, what happened to me recently was that I was not even gas-lit by the narc, it was her minions! And when I heard the bull, I almost laughed! I walked away hurt, confused but I realized that it still wasn't me, and it was so bad for the narc, of course she had to have her minions to "protect" her, AGAIN! LOL...ALWAYS 😅😊😅 screw that stupid *****! I can smile, she has no personality or life.

Once he said that he knows he hurt me. And then went right back to his usual behavior. I stopped contact and feel a lot better. My brother from hell.

This is exactly what my now ex since September put me through for two and a half years. By the time it was over I felt like I was just as bad as him. Thank the good Lord in heaven for this great thing called logic that is helping me to heal because it helps me to see that I didn't do anything he accused me of. Witnesses saw some of what was happening and concluded that he was abusive. This covert form of gaslighting really makes you feel that if you just manage to jump through that next circus ring hoop to keep them happy that maybe everything could actually work between the two of you. We are all taught that all problems in a relationship are 50/50 and that if you don't accept your share then you are the sick one. With this in mind you don't even stop to think if what they have accused you of is remotely logical or makes sense. I wish more therapists were aware of this kind of covert gaslighting.

Ex-narc would always feign an apology with a “sorry I was cranky :(“, and she’d never be able to actually acknowledge anything specific she’d ever done. Which gave her room to just repeat it over and over… Eventually during the discard she told me outright to just kill myself and she never could acknowledge that she said that. Edit: wanted to add that she did always blame her behavior on anything else. She admitted to being completely aware that she treated her previous partner like shit, but blamed it on alcohol and “that’s why she didn’t drink anymore,” though she treated me like shit without the alcohol so 🤷🏻‍♂️. There was just always an excuse for her behavior, but I realized that when it’s. 24/7 ordeal then the excuses just don’t hold up.

Stay calm and just avoid them,it's the safest option.Stay firm and show your emotional and intellectual maturity.

Narc accountability. . " that never happened."

Thank you so much Dr Ramani. Blessings and peace to everyone 🙏

“Cop to the bad behavior” and he was a cop!! I’d be interested if there’s a correlation with narcissists and what careers they choose

I would hear "it's all my fault, i do EVERYTHING wrong" just about every day, now i just try to grey rock all day every day.

The standard response from my covert narc is always a casual…“ my bad”

When they are forced to admit being wrong, you will definitely be punished for calling them out effectively.

Dr Ramani! You nailed it.. my ex did exactly that..somehow things always take a turn that it was your fault and they then are able to say .. look at you..omg.. this is wild..

Thank You Dr. Ramani. You help me tremendously. God Bless You

Yes!, this definetly happend to me and I was always weirded because how strange it was that they did so. I have told this story many times in these type of channel because of how it stood to me and how of a turning point it was, basically I couldn't bare anymore the behaviour of my ex friends so I left since it was too much and it got me to get sick and a few hours later the admin of the group contacted me and asked what was going on. He forced me to talk about it even if I was still in not the greatest mood and wanted to take a breath so I started to tell him some things, at first things went relatively ok and even got to the point of saying that he was sorry about how I felt at the moment (you know how it is, they say it instead of saying they are sorry for causing so) and then happend what the video describes. At first he started to acknowledge some things as stated and I even got to relax a little bit, to then soon after having the mood completly turned up and having him attacking me, blaming me for things etc... and as things went on they got way worse even to the point of demanding me to shut up, come back and forget things and to say that he could write a book filled with shit about me. Worst thing is that for a brief moment I thought things could be solved and they would finally listen but it turned up to be the completly opposite and there was nothing that could stop him, even just defending myself offended him to then act as if I was the one who flipped his shit. I could ho on but it would make this comment longer than it already is, In the end there is nothing you can do

Got my book! Your book, “Should I stay” changed my life for the better… even though I couldn’t get away at that time. God Bless you Dr R.. cannot wait to get it!

It's sickening! They get away with murder, and at the expense of anyone who comes in their lives

So sad that they can't turn this around. Life could be so much better. We can always leave. They take themselves with them everywhere they go. This will prevent them from being truly happy. It is hard to understand. Logic would dictate that it is sooooo much more effort to lie and gaslight rather than just do a little reflecting, make a change and never have to deal with the issue again and BE HAPPY. Sigh. Dreams.

This is the apology pattern with my narc after an argument. Keeping minimal contact throughout 5 minutes: it's sad you could turn this into this. I was joking and you ruined everything. 1 week: it was a silly misunderstanding. Let's talk 1 month: you took things the wrong way. I didn't mean it like you said. 3 months: it's disappointing we aren't talking. 6 months: you're right. I was a bad friend. I admit to everything. I guess I don't see how i come off. 1 year: pretends nothing every happened. 1.5 years: you're crazy and obsessed with me and just keep on making up reasons to be mad at me. Saved myself the makeup and pretend friendship stage. He went right back to letting his mask slip before we even made up. Lol

Thank you so much for this!! I recently had this happen where a friend who had been treating me terribly and denying it when I confronted her. Out of the blue months later, after seeing me have a really fun weekend with other friends, she owned up to it all. That made me feel like there was hope for the friendship, that she was the open honest person I hoped she was. but it was shortly followed by her saying that she behaved terribly because I was both dangerous and in danger, that there was a badness in me, and her acting as she did was necessary. It took me about 10 days to un-confuse myself on that one. thank you so much for calling out this pattern!

Now i understanding why i went from therapist to therapist for most of my married life in an attempt to hold on to some semblance of reality & hold on to my sanity as it is so easy to go under from the varied gaslighting one experiences while living with them Its videos like this that fills my heart & soul with so much gratitude for being divorced & finished with all that BS Thank you DrRamini for the daily reminders I appreciate your videos so very much

Definitely on point and I call them lil bully pups💙especially when family enables the behavior 💙

There's a faith-based version of making you "the bad one." An admission is not actually talking responsibility. It can be demanding a free pass, and it can use religious belief as a manipulative tool. "Yes, I did the thing. Here's my excuse, ...and you HAVE TO forgive me, because I 'fessed up, and since I did admit it, if you're a good person and a good Christian, you'll forgive me (which includes not holding me accountable for my bad behavior)."

I get this all the time. It's mind-boggling, like what just happened?? It's almost like an art form for them, they do it so skillfully and perfectly. It's sick and demented and so painful to be caught off guard with...

I think if it's that rare occasion where they do cop to their behavior, ... It's merely their Bait n Hoover technique, or .. their maneuver to discard or reverse discard.

Bottom line for SURVIVAL.... ALWAYS TRUST YOUR GUT... Does this FEEL LOVING?.... if the answer is "no".....trust it... It ISN"T. .. And it really doesn't MATTER.. if you unravel it, etc etc.... Just FEELING THAT IT'S WRONG.. is...............................enough reality for you.

A narcissist who perceives that they are in trouble will quickly say whatever they think you want to hear. "I'm sorry. I won't do it again." Then it turns into: "It was YOUR fault I did it. You MADE me do it. I am a GOOD person."

This is sooooooo true I’m crying!!! Gaslighting collaborating with word salad!!! The worst ever!!!!!!

"The Swoop"... Day 1: Narc: By the way, yes, I'm admitting to an action that I know is a complete betrayal of the relationship. I have always known the act is a betrayal. By the way, I have knowingly continued to engage in this betrayal from the beginning of the relationship and all through these years, and took it underground behind your back. [Tears, Tears, Tears and hanging head in hands] Day 2: Narc: You know what? You know how I apologized yesterday? Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. And you know what else? I'm going to be continuing in my actions of betrayal because EVERYONE does it, EVERYONE does it, I'm only human. And so I'm relieved because I'm not sorry for being human." Day 3: Narc: You know, I've admitted to what YOU VIEW as betrayal, but it's not really a betraying action since EVERYBODY does it. I know I apologized, but I really resent having to apologize for just being human. It's YOUR PROBLEM, to deal with now, and if you don't like what I'm doing, because really it's NO BIG DEAL, and I like to do it, it makes me feel good. In fact now that we've talked about it, I'm going to keep doing it! And if you don't like it, that's YOUR PROBLEM. Like it, Lump it, or Leave."

They have a double standard.. they would never stand for the stuff they dish out.. and they rewrite history whenever it suits them! Praise God for Dr R and her wisdom. #sograteful

I got "I've heard you... same thing for months... im just not doing it or giving you what you want" note, this was a few weeks before discard

Remember when Jimmy swaggart said (the (in a tearful voice, probably crocodile tears), 'I have Sinned!"

Omg! He was spouting off while you were uploading this video!

She's starting therapy this week, I finally have financial transparency after 7 years, she sees the danger to our kids egos now. all that and I'm terrified still.

Towards the end of our relationship they said "one of my biggest failures in life is having been so mean to you". I asked what they were going to do about it (kindly, silly me). "I'm going to start thinking more about myself." Mind-boggling. And how would thinking even more about themselves be possible?