good old studio system. "we love your movie, just change everything about it"

I love how Hollywood hasn't listened to these directors and force changes and then they wonder why these movies suck and bomb.

Well at least we don't have to worry about Harvey ruining any more movies so that's a plus!

Every time I recommend this movie to people, I make it abundantly clear that they need to get the director's cut. Also, I'd say that getting to throw darts at Ben Affleck is the definition of a perfect Christmas. 😏

So I have a funny story about throwing darts at Ben Affleck. I worked at Blockbuster when Pearl Harbor came out. Reindeer Games had already come and gone and we were headed straight into peak Ben Affleck hate. When the poster for the movie arrived for promotion, me and a coworker thought Blockbuster wouldn’t care for Pearl Harbor since it didn’t do so well so we hung the poster up and took every sharp object in the building and tried to hit a specific marker on Ben’s hat. Everything on Ben Affleck’s face was mangled except for that little marker on the hat, Blockbuster was pissed, and me and the other coworker were never allowed to work together again. I still can’t believe we never hit that marker once.

Very underrated movie as far as the director's cut . Great retrospective review :-)

Keep these coming, please. The positivity, passion and genuine interest expressed for these movies are so apparent, they become contagious.

One of my friend's buddies, John, operates the reels for the Angelica in Plano when the Bourne Identity was released. It was one of the "select" theaters that was going to do an early release, with some of the cast and production team attending the release. Among them was Matt Damon. So John met Matt Damon before the screening, and Matt asked him if he got a chance to watch the film when he was testing the reels the previous night. Without blinking an eye, John told Matt Damon, "Yeah, it was all right. I mean, it was no Reindeer Games, but I guess it was good."

I remember the older video you did for Reindeer Games from years back before it got taken down, great job expanding on the film Cecil :)

Fun fact: Frankenheimer was originally set to direct “Exorcist: the beginning” (2004) but his declining health forced him to step down and he subsequently died.

Dude, this is awesome. I'm one of your $5 Patreon supporters and I never thought you would do Reindeer Games. I lived in Prince George at the time of the filming. We had one of the few prisons in North America at the time that was unoccupied (a new one had been built next door) and we used that to snag another film earlier, Double Jeopardy. So when you say Vancouver and British Columbia, remember that Vancouver IS in BC and the other shooting location in BC was Prince George. The scene at the diner was shot locally, as was the scenes with them in front of "Michigan Fine Foods", which was actually Save On. They selected us because of our snow, but we didn't have much of it that year. Frankenheimer cast several locals, including one of my friends, though later promoting him as a director's asisstant for the time in Prince George. That would eventually see me waved on set, where I got to meet Clarence Williams, Danny Trejo, and Ben Affleck. I also got to see John Frankenheimer, but was not introduced. They also employed a local Denny's and a Sandman hotel for several scenes. It was awesome. Our local film board scored another success not long after when we got Dreamcatcher. I never said these films were any good. :)

Alien 3 is another perfect example that the directors cut is better. I never understood the hate that film got until I realized people were referring to the theatrical cut, which I’ve never seen. It’s actually my favorite film in the franchise. The characters development is awesome.

Watched the director’s cut of Reindeer Games for this Christmas and found myself enjoying it for what it was

Christmas day and a video from Good Bad Flicks, my day is made!!! Happy Christmas to all.

I knew they cut out material, im off to see the directors cut

I bought the director's cut of the film on DVD while I was in Campbell almost a month ago. This will be my first time watching this film later tonight.

This is one of those reviews I actually feel grateful for. Thank you for making this.

Agreed, the directors cut is the only way to see this movie. It’s a favourite for many years of mine

I love this '' exploring'' series, I even watch for films I never heard of lol. Keep up the great work and happy new year.

Now I want to know more about that dr Moreau film

John Frankenheimer is probably my favorite director. "Ronin" and "The Train" are so damn great, and all his films are at least worth watching even if you don't like the genre, but I think every one of his films are good.

Ronin is one of my favorite films of all time. The DVD commentary from Frankenheimer is like going to film school. It's worth a buy for talk about composition, lenses and lighting alone.

...after watching this episode I just had to see this movie (director's cut obviously) and I gotta say I really, really enjoyed it. Automatically added to my Christmas watchlist

Merry Christmas Cecil and thank you for this video💖

Merry Christmas Cecil! Hope you and your family have an amazing holiday🎄

Marry Christmas Cecil. Thank you for all the great commentary.

*I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT THE THUMBNAIL* I know I shouldn't because it's not even that funny but every time I see their facial expressions I crack up laughing

Always enjoy your Exploring series. Have a merry Christmas buddy and keep up the good work!

I love these videos! Keep 'em coming!

I remember watching this as a kid and loving it .. Merry Christmas GBF

A goodbadflicks upload? It's a christmas miracle!

I never knew about the director's cut! Thanks for letting us know, I thought poor Frankenheimer lost it

Robin was awesome, “what do you say to Santa’s little helpers? Thank you.”

Merry Christmas Cecil! Looking forward to your favorite movies list.

I love this movie and now knowing there is an even cut, I cannot wait to see it again.

Frankenheimer is lucky to do something he loves to do.

Merry Christmas Cecil!

Cool. I'll watch this tonight. Thanks, Cecil. Merry Xmas.

Merry Christmas, Cecil!!! Excellent example of a holiday action thriller. Also, my Christmas wishlist: can you do Exploring on another Affleck movie Paycheck?

now THIS is a nostalgia trip. I love this movie.

Cecil...thanks to you I spent like four hours listening to psychostick and now I have to go to work in two hours...my favorite song is mega man and dangerzone...but number one is Bruce Campbell

Happy holidays!

Never get tired of Ronin.. such good performances from all the cast.

Would love to see an exploring Mimic. That film always caught my attention and would love to see an in depth look at the behind the scenes of it.

I’ve always loved the directors cut of Reindeer games. It’s one of my all time favorite guilty pleasures. “And some pecan f%#’n pie!”

YAY!! we got it this year! I saw the theatrical cut on cable and thought it was interesting enough to watch it on dvd. Though I thought it was just badly cut for TV as most movies are. I saw that there was a director's cut and bought that instead. I LOVE this movie. Heist movies are my favorite types of movie and this is a very smart, well put together film.

MERRY CHRISTMAS GBF!!

Thank you I had no idea of a directors cut, ronin was great, also brought up his experience of his auto racing, now I'll look for directors cut of reindeer games

I need to see that director's cut! Such a star studded cast!

Always loved this movie, is uneasy, tongue in cheek, Affleck in what he does best: playing stupid, and its 14.822 twists!

I remember this was one of the last "Hot Box" movies I saw as a kid for free . I loved it at 14

Glad i caught this review. I passed on this movie back in the day but just saw the directors cut. It was fun.

Ronin is amazing. It really holds up, and it was the last movie were my friends and me sat around discussing for hours

*I just found your channel. This is a really good video*

Funny how KZfaq is so picky about which videos they deem ad-friendly. Yet I got a disgusting ad, showing someone having part of their (lung?) removed, due to excess smoking and or dipping. I've yet to see Reindeer Games, but now that I know it's a really good movie and that the director's cut is the superior one, I will definitely check it out.

WOW man this was incredible good stuff

"Affleck was the bomb in phantoms yo!"

pretty good Christmas gift man

Merry Christmas Cecil

You should do an exploring of the mist and the toxic avenger! Love the series btw!!👍👍👍

Great review

I tried watching this back in the day and couldn't get into it lol. This explains why, they should just let directors go thru with their visions of what the film was supposed to be.

I only knew the theatrical cut....now i'm going to check the director's cut. Thx for this video!

Sounds like the difference between the theatrical, and director's cut (VHS and Laserdisc) versions of The Lawnmower Man. Director cut changes the movie for the much better!

I haven't seen the movie in probably 15 years...but i remember liking it enough. but now that I know all of this, I will definitely be tracking down the DC version.

Merry Christmas Cecil.

The Director's Cut is available to rent on Amazon video right now.

I really enjoy the Director's Cut, and watch it every year around Christmas

Hey GBF! Thanks for another amazing video again :) just asking ¿Will we ever see a "exploring" video about "Ravenous" the 1998 terror movie?

I completely forgot the most of this film , I always thought the lead was incredibly stupidly written, but I remember the twist ending, so in that front it was effective.

I swear ever single time I hear the outtro I think ITS A CAT INSIDE OF A CAT lol

reduce the run time and inject forced humor. Sounds like a recent Affleck movie.

I think the only reason I watched this was the 'Directors Cut' label and the Frankenheimer name. I remember enjoying it.

Aside from DAREDEVIL (2003), this is probably Ben's most underrated movie.

I bought the director's cut because of you and it is alot different. It reminds me of batman v superman dawn of justice ultimate edition. You miss out on alot of story and I'm about to revisit reindeer games director's cut because of this video. Love your channel.

Scream 3 also suffered because of Miramax. Re-writes (weirdly enough by Ehren Krueger), shooting delays, etc. it's too bad that producers and studios ruin what they put out by altering what the artist intended. Also Merry Christmas!

Yes, y'all go and watch that Lost Soul documentary. Just watched it last week and it is amazingly interesting and entertaining!

John Frankenheimer was a pretty good director. Its a shame that his last theatrical released film was a bust and the producers ruined his vision. One of my favorite movies by Frankenheimer is a 1989 action thriller called, "Dead Bang" about an LA deputy sheriff who uncovers a plot involving a neo nazi movement and arms trafficking. I think it's an underrated gem, with an engaging plot and personally recommend it.

Test Audiences and Harveystein just what a production doesn't need. EVER.

Came for Reindeer Games, got a little Ronin, one of my all time favorite action movies. Very nice.

Merry Christmas good bad flicks whatever ur real name is

Exploring Slither please!! Great, underrated movie!

I really like this movie. I didn't know it was so heavily edited.

Just started reading "universal Harvester". the book mentions this film in the first five pages.

The trailers made it sound like its was gonna be a comedy.

A lot of this movie was filmed in my hometown of Prince George, BC

You turned me onto the directors cut of daredevil which honestly saves the movie. So ill hunt this down.

i love this film i sadly had to pawn my copy so i hope to get it again one day

I would love to hear about a movie where the studio requests they dumb it down, and the director says ok and re-submits the exact same movie a couple months later and it gets approved.

this movie is everything that is badf with the 90s

I just watched this movie again tonight LOL, and I really like it :)

would you do tremors since there is a 6 Part comming and 2015 we got part 5 i love those movies and micheal gross is kinda awesome

I just got done watching it again for the 20th time. It brings me back to my childhood in a weird way. I still have the directors cut in dvd and think the movie is decent a solid 6 out of 10

I had NO idea there was a Director's Cut out there. Now I gotta check it out.

One of my favorite movies

top notch again, I thoroughly enjoyed reindeer games the directors cut especially, a cool Christmas action flick. i loved the doc about Stanley's Dr Moreau, such studio hypocrisy and interference, plus the always entertaining Kilmer 'worst to work with' stories! BATMAN FOREVER.. FOREVER

afleck was the bomb in phantoms - jay n silent bob

Please do a video on Dead Man. It’s one of my favorite movies, and hardly anyone talks about it

I LOVE Ronin. It's easily one of the best, most believable spy thrillers. I am absolutely going to check out the Directors Cut of this.

I just found it strange that John Frankenheimer would spend 2 hours proving that he is definitively *not* Brian De Palma.