i will never sleep again because of square cowboy Grosjean

Therapist: Don't worry. Your nightmares aren't real. My nightmare: 8:30

8:31 What the hell is that?!

What more important driver or car? Actually starting the season is more important

Mercedes: my drivers. ChainBear: our drivers.

Decent analysis but how often has team orders impacted the score of the second driver? Especially at Ferrari when in past years they have clearly had a No.1 and No.2 driver and the second driver will always have had to cede points to the lead driver....the teams swapping drivers will never, ever happen.

Even like this, you would have the impact of the circuit on the car. For example, it's not the same for a Ferrari to run in Monza than in Monaco, where in Monza would have a slight advantage because on their top speed, but in Monaco the car would underperform. So the "Communist F1" wouldn't work here either, although I never thought about it and it would be pretty funny to watch the drivers swapping teams every weekend.

8:30 my sleep paralysis demon now has a sleep paralysis demon, thanks

I would like to see the look on mercedes when the FIA says “this week you get Grosjean, hope your car is not to expensive to repeir”

"Bono, my tires are gone!" "You mean OUR tires"

7:30 Kvyat for champion 2020. The sorting algorithm knows already!

James: Valtteri, it's James. Valtteri would like to pass Valtteri: No, James, I will not let Valtteri pass me

Damn, that idea of rotating the drivers through the teams during the season sounds soo interesting, would love to see it.

What was that at 8:31

I'm just here for the reactions to 8:28

I’d love to see an analysis of fuels in F1. We talk a lot of car and engine, but can a fuel supplier make a difference in performance? Does a Mercedes engine perform differently in a different car using a different fuel supplier?

I would appreciate if you never make anything like 8:30 again

7:32 SHOCKING: Codemasters reveal how they made their driver cards!

I like to think think of it like this: The car sets the macro boundaries of what is achievable, but the driver min-maxes the capabilities of the car and squeeze the best performance out of it.

8:31 I saw it on your Twitter a while ago but that is absolutely cursed

Let's be real, the car is WAY more important. Just ask a professional driver, they'll tell you

Genuine fear my eyes flicked backed to the screen at 8:30

The Russel's drive with W11 confirms that driving a better car makes driving easier and faster to win the championship. Though the driver must be able to adapt to the car and drive it perfectly they can win the championship .

this video starts at 1:02, ends at 8:29 and re-begins at 8:38. You're welcome!

Verstappen fans: "Car!" Hamilton fans: "Driver!"

Car is more important but the driver gives that extra few percent

90% car 10% driver. Oh, and that laughing Grosjean scared the hell out of my dog.

Mercedes: Team cohesion Red Bull: Engine Ferrari: Regulations McLaren: Patience Force India: New names Alpha Tauri: Driver swaps Haas: Any cohesion at all Alfa Romeo: Fun Williams: Money

sometimes it almost feels like there isn't the word "both", on the internet.

I thought you'd bring up the second driver in the team, and I don't that's really balanced to bring that up to comparison since usually the "secondary driver" in the team is set up to not compete with the arguably better/dominant "primary driver"

Car is always more important in terms of competitiveness. You put Alonso, Hamilton, Senna, Schumacher, Vettel or Prost in the slowest cars of f1 historically (Arrows, Minardi, Spyker, Williams, etc etc) and they will NEVER compete for podiums let alone wins unless there are exceptional circumstances and changing conditions like heavy rain, safety cars, lots of DNFs and so forth. But when the car is already competitive and the margins are small between the cars of other teams, I'd say the driver makes a huge difference. It's the decision making, how to manage the tires, when and where to overtake, when to push, when not to push, when and how to defend, how to maximise the car in qualifying and overall improve the car with appropriate feedback given to the engineers. I'd say in general it's about 70% car, 30% driver.

Imagine the nightmare of being an F1 commentator on a season where drivers get shuffled around teams like that

8:31 Uhhhh...you OK, there?

Maybe it's because I'm drunk but I liked the 8:30 part lol

I think that the car has a greater impact for one simple reason: all F1 drivers are top class. There will never be an F1 driver losing 2 seconds from the teammate, while the pace of the worst cars is often that far away (or more) from the best ones.

8:05 Waiting for those budget limitations ✌️ 9:25 some years teams go months without making the perfect car setup for the driver, now try changing that every one to two weeks

"Rotate the drivers between cars" "There's the chances of botched pitstops" Russell in Sakhir 2020: ):

Ask Williams if they would rather have Hamilton or the Mercedes car. There is your answer.

I thoroughly enjoyed 8:30

I really love all of these recent chart filled vids. Keep it up!

8:30 imagine Romain Grosjean watching this video. That was mean...

Loving the new look Chain Bear intro! I wanted the answer to this question, and you have given me a video for it. Thank you! Keep it up man. Been following you since your tire videos in 2018 and I have never been disappointed.

Great graph work! So easy to understand

The new intro/outro with the music is so good - even though it's the same music as last year, the different volume levels and the logo at the beginning are awesome

The car. Look at Russell’s performance after he filled in for Lewis in the penultimate race of 2020. Compare it to his performance for Williams. 🤣

7:35 NO-ONE is better than the Torpedo.

Love your approach to rotate drivers through teams 👍

Perhaps a less wacky idea would be to have one or two extra races during a weekend, where the drivers are put in F2 Cars at random, and the winners get a prize money. They used to do a similar challenge with touring cars back in the day, so we got to see a Lauda v Senna in a merc 190 I think. That sort of stuff would be awesome

8:40 Absolutely. LOVE IT

Little correction at 2:00 Mika won the championship in 1999 :)

Wow... So much work put in these videos. Nice job!!!

The biggest factor that the second driver comparison misses is the fact that one of any two team-mates will be on a superior strategy to the other due to the constrictions of pitting. Often teams will choose a number one and number two driver, and put the number one guy on the favoured strategy. This is especially the case at Mercedes rn during the second half of seasons.

I really like your work keep it up! Your Idea is quite creative, but there are 2 major problems that make it even more complex. 1) the fastest driver, which they all believe to be, won't want the slowest car on the fastest circuit... 2) This season prooved us, that numbers of races ain't fixed or garanteed... What then?

“Ordered at random to sidestep controversy” WELL, which Randomisation Algorithm did you use?!?!

OH MAN ...WHY I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS IS BECAUSE YOU EXPLAIN IN IT VERY VERY CLEARLY....THANK YOU VERY MUCH

You should make video about how the tv camera direction has changed over the years. The cars these days look so much 'slower' on screen compared to the old days

What also needs to be considered is that each car handles the way of the drivers liking and their driving style. While some things can be balanced out with setup, there are general things youll never get out of the car without reconstructing the suspension, aero and everything else. Just look at Gasly last season. He is not a bad driver but just couldnt properly work with the redbull thus getting bad results. So while you were right with everything you said in your video, you should add that its not driver + car its the "symphony" of both combiend that set the pace. Other than that: great video and i like the idea of swapping teams and drivers around but it wouldnt really work out because certain cars got certain strenghts and weaknesses and therefore are more or less ideal for certain tracks.

You know when Max Verstappen made a theory about the Mercedes W11 for being too dominant and George Russell drove it for Sakhir GP 2020? Yup, I'm with Max - he does have a solid point after all.

I really like your idea at the end about changing F1! I’d love to see how drivers stack up against each other and how the teams do

i love the rotating driver idea. thanks for exploring it in some detail

4:23 How do you get negative percentage of someone's points in 1972?

80% car 20% driver

I really like these videos and I look forward to each new one that comes out. Thank you.

I think that layout would be good for maybe a partner or junior series; I don't imagine a scenario where a championship-winning level driver would be that happy to shuffle around teams though.

Car, because without it drivers would just be walking

Guys what are we talking about, just look the 2020s rankings of Bottas vs Russell. 200+ vs 3, and in Sakhir gp he proved that he is way better than Bottas by overtaking him almost twice in a car completely strange for him. I am even wondering why would someone keep a Drivers championship it is completely worthless.

Car is almost always most important, but as you demonstrate the actual relative weighting can vary depending on the performance spread. With contemporary F1 there is probably a 1.5s spread between the best and worst drivers and at least a 3s spread between the best and worst car.

In an era where all drivers on the grid have a raw pace within a few tenths, the most important value of a driver is their consistency and composure.

This is much like W Series. They change car & engineer each and every round

There's also the extra difficulty seeing that the best drivers and the best cars aren't independent of each other. What I mean is that the top teams with the most money can spend more money on their car and the drivers. So you can't just easily decoupled. Which is the point of this entire video, but I thought let's use the comment section to write a comment.

Your idea at the end is intriguing, although I doubt it could be done between the confusion it would cause (since drivers would end up all over the place by design) and difficulties in implementing the changes seamlessly (because it would take drivers some time to get used to a new car, since they can't possibly drive all 10 cars in pre-season testing)

I salute your extensive research and mathematical solution/equations just to relay a reseanable and statistically accurate readings!

Maybe having a series in general

this film reminds me of: "Gentlemen, a short view back to the past" and yes, although Max would be very upset, the Formula All actually sounds do-able at least this year and Grosjean adds a little music chair effect to the fans, tho the teams would go insane with this😂

I love how right before you introduced the goodness scale, I was like "I mean the performance spread has different magnitudes"

The championship suggestion you gave at the end is really nice. Maybe F1 can consider something like this for one season!

8:41 Lenin approves!

7:26 Ah yes Kvyat is the best driver of them all. Lmao I understand your point of placing them randomly, great video anyways. Cheers.

Great concept, would be interesting if they did a mini race series like this so you could still have "proper" F1, and then a 2nd one running like this.

Love that rotating drive idea, it would make a fair competition and I think most fan would like to see.

9:30 You didn't think your idea to the end: It wouldn't be fair as there are tracks where it is hardly possible to overtake and on the other side there are tracks where you can overtake easier. Starting at the end of the field in Monza due to a penalty would be less bad than in Monaco or Hungary. Besides every car has its individual strengths and weaknesses. How do you want to find out the strengths and weaknesses of every team before and during a season and guarantee that it will be fair in average for every driver? Besides teams try to develop cars fitted to a driver's' drive style. Your idea wouldn't work.

The video starts at 1:03

Your videos are very amazing and I am learning a lot from you sir..Could you please upload a video based on how F1 constructors points are given to each team?

The problem with the model you proposed is that it takes time for a driver to really know a car down to every detail and it may lower the entertainment value if the races are more sloppy

Theyre both as eqully important as seen with allonso and the mclaren honda Great driver + poor car = bad results

Looking at the difference in performance between Hamilton and Verstappen and their teammates you can clearly say that the driver is important, even considering that Bottas' races are regularly sacrificed. I do however feel that Formula 1 is a constructors championship. This is what makes F1 better and more fun than other racing classes. The difference in cars due to budget, yes, but ultimately it is innovation, engineering and management that makes cars able to win races. Just look at recent examples like the Toyota and Honda F1 teams. Ferrari has been known to not win championships while investing incredible amounts of money and having excellent drivers and engineers. Adding to this I am all for a budget cap but firmly against homologated parts unless teams are still free to design their own parts and not use the FIA regulated parts if they so choose. Now for the drivers circulating between all the teams: I love the idea but I see a lot of problems with this. Aside from the fact that none of the teams will agree with your idea. Maybe you could rotate everyone once in the first 10 races and then let them finish the season at their own respective teams. That way you have the drivers championship first and then the constructors. I can not figure out a way to make that work any other way. This set up would have to include a relegation/promotion between the junior classes. Let's say the bottom 6 or so relegate out of F1 and new drivers would be promoted in from F2 and other feeder championships. But what about WEC, IndyCar, Formula E and other top class championships? Can their drivers join F1? Will they be able to just offer the top drivers a big check and lure them out of F1? Should they get create a similar rotating model? To implement this you would have to change all championships in all classes. Making it extremely complicated and difficult to find a way into f1. Or worse, if you prefer endurance there is almost no way of getting there since it is a top tier championship but not the highest. It turned into a bit of a long read but I'd love to hear your thoughts on all of it. Keep making great videos like this!

Your content is getting better and better. Keep it up :D

Great video, love the content, love the channel, *hate* the idea of a drivers' round-robin!

Whenever there's a wealth of reliable data to draw from, Chain Bear always delivers a quality analysis. On the other hand when there's not - such as this video, it seems his videos often disappoint. This subject is more about reading between the lines than simply crunching the numbers and perhaps that's not his strong suit. Despite the fact that there much to be explored in this subject, this video seems a bit shallow. I've watched for 11 minutes and learned... basically nothing. Perhaps a different approach is required for these sorts of topics in the future.

8:32 please... NEVER do that again! thanks

Love the spread concept!

Your analysis is just supreme!

Put Hamilton in a Williams. Heres your answer

Magical and very funny video. On top of that informative, eye-opening and ... ahg thats enough praise for a 11 minute clip. Cheers!

Great video as always! One factor which should be noted though is that drivers and constructors often work in harmony - like constructors designing a car to suit a driver's style or vice versa. Vettel and Webber were quite evenly matched at the start of 2012 (and Vettel was initially unhappy with the direction of the car's development) but when the Red Bull's behaviour and Vettel's style converged, the German was the much quicker driver. One issue I have with a driver-rotation championship is that drivers and constructors will need to become more "general purpose" than specialized for one another. The overall excitement may still be worth it, but I would prefer some way to leave the current setup and just make it more of a level playing field for constructors.

That suggestion at the end was great!!!!!!!!

I think this is be best answer to what I have always considered to be a nonsensical question. I do see the effectiveness of the "Performance Spread" idea in tackling this tricky issue.

A great follow up to this video would be to take the suggestion made at the end of the video and compare it to what W Series has done. While they are a spec series, they do rotate their engineers and mechanics around the drivers to keep things fair since that series is was built to focus on the skill of the drivers.

The only thing that comes to mind when you chart the best car and driver vs their teammates not finishing right be hind them in points is, the #1 driver will typically get the best race strategy or pit option, as well as better parts on their car. That’s why other teams can finish closer to the champ than his team mate

Music gives me chills everytime