Most Complicated TLR Ever? How to Unload and Load The Zeiss Ikon Ikoflex With 120 Film

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Episode 154. The Zeiss Ikon Ikoflex 1a is probably the most complicated film loading system I have seen. A tutorial on how to load this camera, the easy way.
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@rubenmartinezperez5341
@rubenmartinezperez5341 3 жыл бұрын
I've just bought this exact camera and I would like to thank you the time you invested in doing this video because it helped me a lot to understand the camera and to be able to load it all by myself. Please keep making these type of videos, you are awesome!
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Thanks :-)
@blessiowner
@blessiowner Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for creating this video. My mother got me an Ikoflex ia for my birthday since the camera and I entered the marketplace in the same year. I hadn't worked with film in decades, and even then it was point and shot. I was totally lost so your video was wonderfully informative.
@stevenpeters6909
@stevenpeters6909 4 жыл бұрын
Just purchased an Ikoflex 845 in immaculate condition, and knew there were some idiosyncrasies about its usage. Your video has helped me at least get past the loading stage. Thanks for the info, and happy shooting.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found this helpful. Cheers!
@gauravanand05
@gauravanand05 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I watched this before using my Zeiss Ikoflex for the first time!
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@randybennett6846
@randybennett6846 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent description of loading the Ikon TLR... I have two of these and I could have saved a couple of rolls of films if I had seen this a few years earlier. Really good job... always enjoy your vids! Again... very good
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for supporting this channel! Cheers.
@harrystevens3885
@harrystevens3885 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video Ben! this will help a lot of people with this type of camera so glad you eventually removed the flash gun assembly, as for self timers I have come across restores of old cameras that remove them from certain models because of the trouble they can cause.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Interesting tidbit about the self timers, learned something new. Cheers!
@tristanmurff6586
@tristanmurff6586 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, Thanks for the video! this was super helpful in working with the camera!!! Was beating myself up trying to figure it out
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear!
@johnmckenna8989
@johnmckenna8989 Жыл бұрын
Thank you....John (west coast, Can.)
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall Жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@andrewwilkin1923
@andrewwilkin1923 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, that was hard work, will stick with my Mamiya C330 :-). Golden rule for old cameras, never try the self timer!
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, I know right? Certainly the most complicated loading system I have seen. Oh, and yes, the film timer thing, I just pretend they don't exist :-)
@wonkylondon3204
@wonkylondon3204 3 жыл бұрын
What happens if you used the self timer?
@andrewwilkin1923
@andrewwilkin1923 3 жыл бұрын
@@wonkylondon3204 There is a risk that the self timer could jam up before it fires the shutter. That would leave you with a dead camera.
@richiereceipts3475
@richiereceipts3475 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video and very helpful
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@markusklein6309
@markusklein6309 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation! Very helpful.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome
@manzanoben
@manzanoben Жыл бұрын
Very useful video. Thanks!!! :)
@Agounet
@Agounet 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very helpful video.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 2 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. Glad this helped :-)
@MrRotflastc
@MrRotflastc 3 жыл бұрын
very clear! thank you for share it!
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@vcarra
@vcarra 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!! very well explained!!!
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Glad this helped. Cheers!
@franchoveler5297
@franchoveler5297 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this nice explanation !
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@Bokicazver
@Bokicazver 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@kovbasyukphoto
@kovbasyukphoto 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video!
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome 🙂
@alexrussell1778
@alexrussell1778 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these videos, it’s given me a much better understanding of this camera! I was having the same issue with the timer, however when I got that part unstuck, the shutter was still stuck closed. I don’t know if you’ve ever had that issue or if I’m better off taking it to get repaired.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. Your issue may require some repairs from a professional. All the best!
@simonkeslake2782
@simonkeslake2782 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Ben but like Andrew.. I'll stick to my Yashica 635!! Keep up the great work, really enjoy your videos.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, thanks :-)
@alfredbarten4901
@alfredbarten4901 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Thanks!!
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@danielknowles7131
@danielknowles7131 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my Ikoflex back from repairs and this helped lots! Also, how did attach a string to your lens cap? I can't see any way to do it with mine
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this camera with the lens attached that way. My camera has a loop on the side for the string to be attached. You can tie the string around the middle of the lens cap between the parts that covers the taking and viewing lenses, if your cap does not come with a loop for the string.
@Farbroe
@Farbroe Жыл бұрын
I don’t have the “take up roll” you talk about at 06:40. Is it easy to find a new one?
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall Жыл бұрын
Yes, easy to find these in expired film or taking out the spool on a fresh roll in a dark room (wrap the film in foil if you want to shoot with it later by rolling it back on the spool)
@ghw7192
@ghw7192 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The Carl Zeiss Ikoflex is Teutonic over-engineerring at its fibest! Ihabe over a dozen TLR's from Rolei, Yashica, Meopta, Minolta and others ans the Ikoflex gers used the least because of its complexity.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Truth!
@stephanieleigh6111
@stephanieleigh6111 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there thank you for the amazing video! I just got one of these and I’m trying my hardest to get it loaded with film however once I get the counter to 12 it doesn’t spin freely… and I have to hit the shutter to get it to go to 1. Is this a user error or am I just out of luck?
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Try spinning it at every number as you advance from 1 through to 12. See if maybe the counter is somehow misaligned.
@sombersounds6757
@sombersounds6757 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Just got my hand on a camera like this. My issue is of course the self timer I think. I can't seem to adjust it, do you have any tips or things to look for?
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the self time mechanism on these cameras are a bit finicky. I would avoid using it as it would likely lead to the shutter lockup issue. Mine keeps freezing up my shutter so I just don't use it a all. I included a tip to unlock the shutter if the self-timer locks up on you. Good luck
@rufusvanrugburn
@rufusvanrugburn 3 жыл бұрын
You need to close the little window on the bottom after you load it.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@StianARasmussen
@StianARasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
How do you use a flash on this camera, or what type of flash do i need? :)
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
This camera has a "pin mount" on side. I used a flash handle which you can see at 00:46. One such compatible flash unit is this one: www.ebay.com/itm/Near-Mint-National-PE-381SG-Handle-Flash-Unit-for-film-Camera-SLR-from-Japan/233519158905?hash=item365ed39679:g:GN0AAOSwvbZeZPWy
@HawklordLI
@HawklordLI 3 жыл бұрын
Does the counter have to be on number 12, or just past number 12?
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Once you fire the shutter at the 12 position it should move freely.
@HawklordLI
@HawklordLI 3 жыл бұрын
@@retrotechmall Thanks, I've had this camera for years. I recently got it cleaned and adjusted and now I can finally use it!
@randallstewart1224
@randallstewart1224 11 ай бұрын
Between 7:40 and 10:00 he gives an elaborate demonstration of how to avoid a shutter release management issue. He treats this as something of a tip on using the camera. Surprise! This isn't a usage issue. It is "I do not keep my camera properly serviced." issue. What's happening is that after cocking the delayed timer lever on the shutter (and the shutter itself), he's triggering the exposure release and nothing much is happening. It looks like the self-timer is partially counting down, then stopping before exposure release. This is such a common problem with these old leaf shutters that the standing rule seems to be: Do not use the self-timer. What you do not do is what he does in the video. If you try to force the timer to reset or release by forcing the cocking lever, all you will accomplish is to break the f....,ing shutter mechanism. Get your damned camera cleaned! As to Ikoflex series of TLRs, they were produced by Zeiss as a "me too" response to the success of the Rolliflex. Their mechanical engineering is robust. Their lens, a Tessar, was competitive for the period they were produced, but a generation behind the later Rolleiflex models with Planars and Xenotars.. The feature set and controls of the Ikoflex were always less sophisticated than the Rolleiflex, which is why they were generally unsuccessful. I found mine a pain in the ass to use, and quickly resold it.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 11 ай бұрын
Maybe you should research this well-documented issue on this particular camera before making judgement and broad assertions. This camera is notrious for having this issue. You barely owned one, and yet you are here trying to pretend you are an expert. Have several seats. www.flickr.com/groups/364368@N21/discuss/72157631494763224/
@rufusvanrugburn
@rufusvanrugburn 3 жыл бұрын
My problem is i cant see thru the red window it is real dark cant see the numbers.
@retrotechmall
@retrotechmall 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that can be an issue, unfortunately
@vespa64m26
@vespa64m26 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. The red window has a sliding door to stop too much light getting in. It is easy to miss.
@titobeme
@titobeme Жыл бұрын
One thing, you didn’t close the little window in the bottom, great video though.
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