Gotta respect this comment. If you disagree I have a lawyer and we’ll send you to the death. and you can’t escape with the SpeedForce this time. 😎

It's better than the gunshots from arrow season 1

Ik

@@digittoll7591 Nice, so I wasn't the only one to get it :)

I'd take better writing over better CGI every time

You know what's better? Flash: Let's talk in the hallway. Flash Villain:😀

STEVEN UNIVERSE

the flash sooo ass

Damn, never thought naruto would have a live action adaptation

:D “you don’t understand! I will take over this world!”

Maybe that was his intention, but he basically just talked about the fight scenes, including their setups and endings. Mostly just about how illogical they all are.

@@kingacrisius Because of the writing that goes into it. It wasnt just his intention, he did what he set out to do lol.

Not to mention, his videos also cover things like who lives/dies/gets saved or not, as a direct result of those fights, which also affects the plot and the impact of the emotional moments.

He started doing it in S4 vid

yeah I don't see how you can separate the two things. The fight scenes, how they are written and how they play out have a huge impact on the story. I don't know he thinks these two things are mutually exclusive things that don't impact each other.

Like he said in the video, the fight scenes only serve to push the plot. Ofc Barry would have ended some of the episodes in 5 mins, that fact is being acknowledged and he’s accepted that they won’t make sense. The vid clearly said that in the first 4 minutes.

@@imallsoupedup But if the entire conflict within the story is built upon narrative contrivances, that's bad writing.

@@calemr i completely agree with you, i think the flash is written poorly

They just couldn't do something entertaining (at least a lot of people think that it is) and that make sense at same time with a speedster, but honestly, I think it is possible, they just couldn't

This comment my thoughts exactly

Godspeed: Oh? Your approaching me Flash? Flash: I can’t beat the s*** out of you without running closer.

@@gmax98 Godspeed: then run as close as you like

They should’ve use whoever was in the Godspeed costume for episode 16 and the voice because let’s be honest the actor who’s playing him nothing against him but the dude is way too skinny for a costume and the voice is incredibly ridiculous like what the hell

@@ansutoure5583 ikr godspped,s voice is so bad he sounds like a power ranger villain lol

Ko

No it would make more sense

@@spiceboyog9083 True. Also I just noticed how everyone shoots lightning and then just sits and waits for everyone else

How dare you not appreciate the lightning shurikens, lightning whip, and lightning sword

@@firesnakex8 Don't forget about the lightning captain america shield/ salad bowl

It was star wars.

TBF, the speed force breaking has been a topic in the comics since around 2018. And given the foreshadowing of Savitar's prison, it seems it's sticking around as a concept.

@@johnandrews8312 The speed force breaking is completely different than the speed force dying.

@@maninthecamohat2735 Not really. The CW made the distinction in personifying the speed force as a living entity that can die. Meanwhile in the comics, the fear was burning out the speed force, which would have the same result of not being able to access speed.

season 2 and 3 are bearable dw

Bro comics are not the same as the tv show if the show doesn't explain the Speed Force in DC is a fundamental force of the universe that affects all momentum then it's not. Comic and TV Show universes aren't the same.

I understand why they wanted to try something new after 83249 speedster fights. But this... Imagine how cool it could have looked if that happened during a chase, where they threw lightning at each other and then... just caught it - followed by a Lightning saber fight in superspeed (slow-motion).

Francly im tired of Tom, still love him but its quite burned and Matt should come back

@@dansandoval9330 i agree. Tom’s rf is overused and matt’s performance is soooo much better

Actually I'm only watching because of Cavanaugh

If they keep "using" his cameos like this, it will get old at a point. A good actor can only do so much if the writing is shit.

@Enyaba i say its better. tom’s rf only worked bcs he was playing two personas. after season 1, his rf wasnt really all that impactful to me atleast.

wow is this really a thing? I havent watched this season

I agree 100

@@przemor1150 pls don't for your own good just don't

@@przemor1150 if I were you I would just watch episodes 1,2,3 and 15,16,17,18

I'm just gonna add that the way that it was originally created in the Flash comics is Barry, by creating a paradox, he created it and it expands to all space and time so it could be there when Barry was supposed to obtain his powers. If instead of there love it was Barry sacrificing his speed to recreate the speed force (not an artificial one but the true speed force) and in doing so he found a way to regain it, it would be a better idea and tie into how without Barry there isn't a speed force just like how without the speed force there is no Flash

agreed bro but instead we got some light saber type shit in the last ep

@@36912conflict Should have ended at the season 3 finale. It was a good ending, the hero sacrificing himself to save the world.

@@phantompillows Yeah, that also would've been a good series finale if they didn't want to do Crisis.

The ballsy choice would've been to kill Barry in Crisis as originally projected, then have the rest of the shows lifetime be with Wally as main character. Kid Flash was wasted in this show, and this would've allowed the character to step up in a big way.

@@MstEli Honestly, that sounds a lot better to do than how the seasons actually progressed. Hell, I was hoping Wally would step up ever since he came back with a more spiritual connection to the Speed Connection.

Also whipping lasso of truth lightning was pretty awful, toss nora west-allen some more trash as if anyone actually ever wanted to see her again after how crap Season 5 was.

No they're really not

@@_Anakin_Skywalker Your right, it's more like the batwoman version of the batmobile.

no, every speedster is not faster than him. Bart is slower, Nora is slower, Thawne is slower, Iris is slower, Wally is slower, Jesse (was) slower (she's dead now, I guess). this reads like a comment from someone who hasn't watched the show since Season 2 and thinks in the intro you still hear "My name is Barry Allen"

@@sakaririchard8810 I think the complaint is not that Barry remains as the slowest speedster, but that every time a new speedster villain appears its always "guys, he's faster than me, I cant beat him". It doesnt matter that now he is faster than all the previous speedsters that appeared and got beaten. Also, there are plenty of other problems.

I mean how is he a villain if he’s not Competition the villain is suppose to make him faster

@@rickeysanders2106 uuuuh no, villain doesnt have to be more powerful to be a threat. Even the simple fact that a villain is willing to hurt innocent people and the one instigating the conflict are advantageous enough to be a threat while not having any superpowers at all. Add even a weaker speedster power with a few new techniques for Barry to figure out, and that would be more than enough to make the conflict entertaining. Add something more, like actual planning and superior intellect and it will only get better. If the antagonist is a non speedster then either let them have a power that can interfere with Barry's powers, make him ess effective or something like that. If the antagonist doesnt have any of that, they dont qualify as an antagonist and should be either taken down immediately, or maybe even offscreened. Why? Cause no matter what you do with them, they will either be annoying, boring, or worse - both. You can have such villains as comic relief characters, but not as serious antagonists that have actual screentime. Why the criteria are so strict? Cause Barry's superspeed breaks and exploits physics, while also providing him with multiple other bullshit advantages (bullshit reaction speed, healing factor, thought acceleration, etc.). Its a top tier power package, so by default the enemies HAVE to be top tier threats as well, not just some guy who can make a mini hurricane.

Yeah know except wally.... and bart.... and nora... and Jay.... and thawne

dude fr

I think the problem is they write the story and big plot points first and then insert the fights around them. So the writer's were like, "Barry's dad dies gets killed by Zoom in front of him" and then they work backwards from that, which causes fights to not make sense.

It's hard for me to understand how you can have scenes in a story, have characters blatantly forget their powers to fulfill the plot points they want, and still have proper stakes. I could totally understand if a fight scene is nonsensical but the outcome is the same (for example, you could say that the luke vs darth vader fight isnt well choreographed, but it's logical that vader wins). But in flash, whoever wins seems almost entirely arbitrary and based on the writer's whims. I'm trying to understand how to properly enjoy the show with this in mind, even in season 1 and 2.

Exactly. I didn’t really understand his point when he said “ I don’t care about fight scenes, only the story” when both are the same thing as fight scenes tell a story as well. Overall it’s just a poor excuse fir bad writing honestly

The whole point of speed is being able to surprise your enemies, move before your enemy can react. That's not the case in this show. Barry always has a 5 minute talk with some random meta with normal human reaction time and he still somehow loses. Like if he took a meta power dampening cuff, put it on the meta and then started talking i would understand but nooooo. Not to mention he makes the most stupid decisions despite him being able to think in flash time which by the way can make seconds into hours for barry at minimum. Heck, in comics, barry and wally can count in attosecond time frames which means a second to a human is equivalent to 31 billion years for barry and wally. They still somehow get destroyed because of poor writing

Well they keep on outdoing themselves on how bad this shitty show can get

Honesty season 7 wasn t that bad💀 Season 5 may forever be the worst one

@@therealpat_ srry but season 7 was and is that bad

@@therealpat_ nah season 5 atleast had fighting and interesting moments even though Nora was a little annoying along with the villain being lame. But this season removed two of the best characters of the show as regulars, the villains were given no substance, the whole season was talking, and the best episode of the season (the speed thinking one) went literally no where.

@@alius9392 season 6 and 7 are equally as bad, season 5 was when all the chracters started turning stupid and always letting the villains escape. Even Supergirl characters are smarter than them

Godspeed is one of the only anti-hero speedsters. Sounds awesome doesn’t it Yea it woulda been nice

The only thing they kept was his name and his costume, and his costume was his best part (coincidence, I THINK NOT)

@@legolad7477 He was basically Savitar in a spandex suit instead of a robot one.

Give Jason Todd the Speed Force and you can picture Godspeed... Although this is quite surface level, since even Godspeed himself said he doesn't want to be seen as the "baddie" of the group.

@@Xehanort10 And more Stereotypical too, because at least Savitar wasn't just doing evil stuff for the sake of being Evil

You thought that your first reply to your comment was gonna be something related but IT WAS I DIO

@@col-guy719 Ah, DIO my nemesis, wanna go out for a drink, maybe get a steak?

no but there are other consistent things in this series like iris who never stops talking, all wells are always doomed, Run barry, run and getting hit by things that are a lot slower then a flash

it also doesn't help when they reveal reverse flash to be so much weaker than the Flash that it basically looks like he's moving in slow motion. if godspeed is much faster than flash and Flash is much faster than Reverse Flash than shouldn't reverse flash have gotten his ass beat in that fight? why did it look like they were all comparable to each other when they clearly aren't

@@evenhartwick4422 yeah i thought of that too, i wasn't really necessary and looks like they tried to find a reason to bring him back. I was fine with the fact that reverse flash can't die bc he is an time paradoxon and that he will never be gone forever why not going with that.

I mean, The Flash as a media installment is over 80 years old , so there is a lot of source material and now and than a capable writer made some good storylines and characters for the comic. Hence "the good ideas" the CW Flash show tries to adapt but fails horribly at translating a comic book to an enjoyable TV show. The showwriters are bad, the channel they publish it for probably commands silly stuff yet has little money to spare for higher quality superhero effect stuff and let's be honest, with the execption of very few actors/actresses, the show struggles to get good people.

Why was Thon even there if Barry is SO much faster than him? What could he possibly contribute? It's like Superman calling Batman for help kicking down a door. Sure he's strong in his own right, but what the hell can Batman contribute in comparison?

Also, doesn’t Thawne get faster anytime Barry gets faster because of the negative speedforce shit?

@@alabamii in the comics yes. But in the show it's been stated like twice that barry is so much faster than thawne and the older speedsters now. Theres no mention of thawne getting fast right along side barry in the show, only the comics

@@Lordship1021 why do you think that Barry let Thawne go in season 7?

@@wamas1234 I know barry is way faster rn, but my point is that thawne was able to keep pace with barry and godspeed and the fact that barry brought in thawne bc he needed help with godspeed

@@Lordship1021 no I understand what you're saying. I'm just laughing at the writers decision to make Barry let Thawne go in such an unlikely way considering who he is and what he can do *cough* *cough* start of season 8.

Season 5 was not so bad, but I agree

@@_Anakin_Skywalker mid at best to be honest

wasnt the forces story in the comics already bad?

@@arkamkage7718 it is, but the concept is cool and the potential for the series is huge, atleast until it wasnt

And call Mom

Its so unfortunate because i actually enjoyed the Godspeed story in the comics but they completely butchered his character in the tv show and made him into some random dude who wants speed (basically a discount Zoom) with cheesy ass lines

@@Seritulus what’s the comic series that has Godspeed called?

Based

Apparently Tom Cavanaugh is a DILF now

@@sabrel4975 always has been

I read that in Veronica Lodge's voice.

*meta daddy

You pointed out a good channel to me - and MauLer which I hadn't watched up until that point. Also another fellow Kenobi basher (which is how I got into your channel in first place) so I'd say it's better it was included than not--even if it was a bit of a rough inclusion.

Yeah I was gonna say that in the comments but then I saw your apology lol. Good video!

Yeah that felt really bizarre so I'm glad you addressed this

Still disliking you and going right back over to him. Don't care if you're "friends", *we* aren't friends. What an elitist, backhanded, snide remark, too, calling out someone's content that's better than yours with baseless remarks. And then you say "whoopsy doopsy, I'm so sorry, we're fwends now" and that makes it better? How petty can you get?

@@vampireguy24 👍🏻

Daredevil is miles better than flash but not better than arrow yeah I said it

​@@nolimitsayy Deathstroke was great

@@nolimitsayy I think I have just witnessed the dumbest take in the history of mankind.

@@KS-db3we Naw, naw he's on to something. S1 and S2, better then Mr "Killing is bad" daredevil. The Punisher's the best superhero show because he kills people throughout the whole thing. Daredevil overall is better then Arrow, but if we're just looking at when the shows were at their peak, nothing can beat Arrow.

@@nolimitsayy Daredevil is far better than Arrow. It stayed the superhero show it was supposed to be unlike Arrow which ended up all about Oliver and Felicity's out of nowhere relationship.

This is a certified bruh moment

Because being a murderous psychopath is obviously better than saying mean words on the internet, _duh._

@@opinionatortv6457 especially when that was Ralph's character in season 4

Stopped watching after that. Then again, it’s not like the show has been worth watching anyway.

@@roshambo4137 because killer frost is a real person and her victims are real people too, duh /s

Well Barry literally erased the original Caitlin and Cisco from the existence by creating Flashpoint, which is considered universal mass genocide, very fucked up right? The timeline we're seeing now is completely altered, it's not the original one that we've seen from S1 and S2, and that makes me feel really uncomfortable, no wonder why this show is beyond repair, they ruined everything.....

@@Spidey-oi5sn let’s also remember back in season fucking 1 when he went back in time a day and that was never addressed again.

@Toilet lol

@@Spidey-oi5sn It’d be funny if at the end of the show we find out all of these shit villains and horrible storylines are a result of flashpoint.

@@b3byb4t that would be the best excuse

That season is better than 3 imo. Maybe I just think that because he was the first non speedster villain. DeVoe was also quite strong.

And people also shit on shows for not giving side characters enough screentime. It should be more of in the middle, and Barry should be astronomically smarter then he is now. First few episodes, Barry was investigating a crime as a forensic scientist, and his syneastaia was evident, he could physically see the train tracks. He can also speedread a book of 1000 words in secends, WITH comprehension. Like, wtf? Then you have pretentious "scientists" who are somehow much smarter then the guy.

Don't worry one more season!

Eobard Thawn Barry never gets smarter

@@eobardthawn6903 agreed

@@scribbr5730 I hope it's only one more. And that maybe they can do it right.

frrrrr. I love frost but her storyline was so shit especially when thy tried to set her up with chillblaine who should've been a weekly meta villain at most. Her and Cait should've stayed as one whole

@@antm4291 Yeah, when I heard there was a breakout at Iron Heights, I thought about all the villains they could've brought back. Instead, they brought back the worst in the series. Whyyyyyy?

@@vanidas5719 exactly, could’ve had em on the loose and Barry and to capture em again only this time they’re more experienced and mad sicne barry has locked em up for a while but nope let’s bring the most cringe and sexuslized character of all time but it’s the flash ran by Eric Wallace, idk why I even had expectations

@@antm4291 Or they could've realized that Eric Wallace was the real villain, and banded together to take him down. The possibilities are endless.

@@vanidas5719 super agreed also go watch superman and lois instade I know flash was good ones but saddly I don't even think they can get close to that level now for me the dialogue is just so bad

Haha nice

@@Gundam_JAY what’s more better season 4 Arrow or season 7 flash

@@justinpereira4179 definitely season 7 flash. Flash never got ad a bad as arrow imo

Bruh-

@@jyrahoj152 well the gut isn't wrong

If you hate season 7 of The Flash: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbKHosaqvLWzc3k.html

Barry might as well be going "Irredeemably evil criminal with no guilt for their actions whatsoever don't do this" then speeds off thinking just saying that will reform them right away.

Exactly, they need to learn in order to defeat the villains --- you have to kill them at times. not all villains can be redeemed by stupid prep talks about "this isn't you, you're better than this".

Like seriously, fuck the pep talks

Yeah like THEY DEFEATED THE MAIN VILLAIN OF S6 BY CONVINCING HER TO FUCKING STOP I SWEAR TO GOT I CANT

exactly someone finally said it. We aren't expecting action scenes on par with volume 1 of RWBY. All we are asking for is the plot to not hindge on the flash forgetting that he has super powers.

man, just resurrect Savitar and have him kill all the villain, he wouldn't have trouble doing that, maybe he's not as fast as the current Barry but who care, not like Barry was using speed to fight anyway.

i'm still fucking salty they "redeemed" so many villains this season but Savitar, the emotionally broken Barry who lost everything, had to be killed off

The fact you think he should kill every villian ONLY is hilarious. He should also kill Cisco, Caitlin, Frost, Chester, Ralph, Iris, Barry, Godspeed, Thawne, Eva Mcculloh, SpeedForce Nora, Deon, Allegra, Timeless Wells, Fuerza, Psych, Cecile, Kristin Kramer and literally EVERYONE ELSE IN CENTRAL CITY (excluding Joe West he's a champ and he should live.)

@@ryannightcore6737 you know Thawne could do the same right, he should be as fast as Savitar at this point, probably because he's not that hearthless and willing to kill innocent people except the flash and everyone he love, oh wait... the flash love the whole city. nevermind, I still don't get why villians like Thawne don't just kill radom civilian in the city, like he's a speedster, he could kill them all within a night and the flash is to blame since he give him a body and let him run away while he HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH speed to capture him in Star Labs, oh wait he was busy set up a wedding out of nowhere.

@@ZentoBrinebg One for Symphogear.

Fr they felt unnecessary and irrelevant to ne

The mask made Psych look like Ivan Ooze from Power Rangers.

Fuerza made me so upset because I LOVED her. I LOVED her. She wanted to arm wrestle superman. She wanted to save her country. This version is barely even a shadow.

Amen

Not only that, they also Butchered the Still Force. Still Force isn't a Time Manipulation Force, it was simply a Force that was the opposite of Speed Force, being that it slows Everything Else down instead of Speeding Yourself up. The Force Wars wasn't even about Family, it was about Barry trying to learn more about the different Force while Losing his Speed and protecting every New Force Users from Black Flash. I hope one day, these Characters get a Proper personality and introduction.

Yes

No

Maybe idk

I think so

so we got 5 out of 7 now

Cisco had the greatest defence. Plot armour.

The dude took a hit literally everybody takes almost every episode and died

He was polka dot man in suicide squad, they always kill off characters whos actors are in other movies

Cisco is too powerful than Abrakadabra.

@@comixproviderftw_02 Both were humans tho.

SAME

🍓 Aproves this

Spoken like a true god of Logic.

At this point I'm rooting for Thawne to ruin Barry's life. In the comics Thawne's hatred of Barry is irrational, insane and petty and shown to be such. But through bad writing they've made show Thawne completely justified in hating show Barry. At least when Thawne does evil things they're portrayed as and shown to be evil and unjustified. And Thawne's changing time is shown to be wrong with him admitting that him changing time is selfish and only for his benefit. Whereas Barry has gone from the hero who protected the innocent he was in Season 1 and 2 to a selfish horny prick who only cares about saving Iris. And despite Barry's time changes being just as selfish as Thawne's he was portrayed as heroic and selfless for going back to save his mother when he wasn't.

I so want that to happen

SAMEE Except I thought it was just a discount version of it

Thing is: Superman and Lois is essentially being done by HBO and CW just claiming it as their own. Stargirl's Showrunner is the creator of Stargirl.

^

@@baligong3592 Yup I think that's part of the reasoning why both shows succeed but then again Titans sucks so who knows.

Creator of star girl wouldn’t let the show be trash

Superman and Lois and Stargirl are two masterpieces

Everytime i see it i wanna laugh

The potential the show could’ve had if they actually killed off Iris in season 3. This could’ve made things so interesting. Seeing Barry deal with it and trying to avoid turning into how he was in the alternate future where he abandons everyone could’ve been really interesting. Maybe when he fought crime he would’ve been more aggressive and no longer tries to talk down criminals

Which season was it?

@@decadewgame9802 season 3 .

Yessss HR could've genuinely saved this show.

agree with everithing but I dont think it will change because a. it's too late b. the writing and plot makes no sense c. the writers are just scared to make a drastic change

The new writers should have modeled the newer material off of what the old writers did. I mean seriously, why would you so drastically change the way you make a show if it’s clear that the entire audience loves it how it already is? The flash used to be a show full of cinematic action sequences, incredible music, intense drama and a moving and emotional story with high stakes involved. Now the show is just so bland, the choices the characters make just make zero sense and Barry feels like a side character in his own show. Even practical things such as the camera angles and the lighting just feel off and don’t give the flash that feeling that it used to have.

&WavvyDavis Same here, I agree

6 was alright, and actually good for the first half. 4,5 and 7 however...

@@herbiewares8770 yeah..

Thawne would've loved to kill Barry

@@kevmasengale6903 Back then, I was thinking that they weren’t gonna be able to stop savitar even if they teamed up. Savitar would’ve killed iris and became a god, and then reverse flash would’ve been like “I know how to stop this from happening... by killing you as a child.” And then they would’ve travelled back in time to the point where his mother died. Would’ve came full circle if they did that. Since they wasted that opportunity we get it so much later in season 7 where it doesn’t make sense at all in the context of things.

Wasn’t he already erased from the timeline by Black Flash before the Season 3 Finale?

@@ryannightcore6737 I meant he would go to the future to get the reverse flash to help him.

@@Z-A-C that would be fucking amazing

OH MY GOD YES

haha funny, 5 panels of barry doing shitty dances funny

No lmao. Not even that

I like the actor because he just hams it up. It’s like he knew that this was stupid so he might as well have fun with it.

Same just saw them today

@Raijin I stopped watching the show around Season 5 because Cicada getting away 108293 times made me pissed tf off and I couldn’t take it anymore so I quit. Sometimes I tap in to see what’s the show like and gosh damn seeing Cecil with powers and Barry (THE FLASH AND A FORENSIC SCIENTIST) still relying on a WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE in SEASON 7!!!!! To tell him how to run fast. And thawne lost his charm and Barry and his dynamic was flushed down the drain when Barry said “I feel sorry for you thawne because you can’t love.” WHO IS WRITING ALL THIS LOVE AND COMPASSION SHIT. No thanks I’ll watch Arrow.

@Raijin I grew up watching flash and obsessing over it. The irony is the guy who hates the flash the most obsessed over him as much as I did and I ended up hating him. I remember watching arrow for the first time and not liking it but I was a kid so i preferred the goofy and wackiness of the flash. But as I got older I started to like arrow way more and like all the seasons of the arrow even the worst one Season 4 but the flash died for me when cicada got away for the millionth time.

I’m sorry but watching a normal man do all this incredible shit gets old af on the cross over with the Nazis I watched this man stop a construction building from falling using only arrows man get tf outta here but rs the flash is more real then the arrow with all of flash cgi shit is tragic

@@g3orgge788 season 7 is the worst season of the flash ever

and it wasn't even a good lightsaber fight, it was essentially a kindergarten stick fight

I honestly thought it was too good of a stick fight because I don’t think any of them have experience but it looks like they are pros

Unlimited power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@ZentoBrinebg lmao

Season 7 is the worst season of the flash ever

i genuinely feel sorry for the actors, might just be me but they seemed to put so much more into their performances in seasons 1 - 3(maybe 4), now they just seem miserable

@@ZentoBrinebg yeah problay because of how bad the show has gotten

@@ZentoBrinebg especially Cisco

Eddie Thawne didn't just kill himself to erase Eobard from existence but because he saw the show's future.

I used to be like you. Trust me, it's not worth it.

@@Xasew I know, it’s probably cuz of my OCD lol

Dude same man

@@Phantom-Agent-X ify on that

@@tonybablony2041 what’s "ify"

I hope there is no season 8

@@anthonysantana2000 I do, to see if they could make it even worse than S7..

@@anthonysantana2000 Dude, there is going to be a season 8.

They probably slowed down so Thawne could keep up 😂

That would have been such a xool way to try and deal with him attempt to overwhelm him forcing him to create multiple clones until he is slow enough for Barry to fight

Made me made?

You’re a made man in the mafia?

@@12coolbro yeah

The guy who plays him said he wanted to wrap up his story, that is why he moved to Star City and joined ARGUS

@@taarabishop8137 who, cisco?

Even her charm can’t save it

@@harrambou9468 Hopefully he talks about the bad acting as well

yeah, they should've not split caitlin and frost

I love how Killer Frost had a "The World isn't Black and White" moment in S5 and when it was Chillblaine's Turn to have that moment she was like "Nah, you're either good or evil"

esparanza's death was the worst

NO ONES GONNA FIGHT BECAUSE ITS TRUE LOL

*Pulls out gun from behind* Always has been

Tbf, Teen Drama Show is what CW has ALWAYS aimed for... The question is: whether or not it's a good teen drama show

I disagree It’s a TERRIBLE teen drama

It always was, but now it's a preteen drama.

So they are the power rangers now?

I agree completely with this comment. That mentality carried me as far as the beginning of season 6. The problem is, the show STILL keeps getting worse and worse, and even I, who likes bad shows or movies, couldn't take it anymore.

I mean, you can do it mid-battle, cause Spider-Man is a Character who had used "Talk no Jutsu" and it never felt stupid, it always made sense within the story and enhanced the Battle. An Example would be in Marvel's Spider-Man in the final battle against Doctor Octopus. Another example can also be done where The Main Character gets defeated, and because the motivation of the villain is an ideological motive, the MC talks to them to give them their perspective on the Matter.

Baligong Spider-Man's instances of trying to talk down his villains are miles better than the Flash's Talk No Jutsu because 1. Most of the villains he tries to talk down are those that are close to him on a personal level. Doctor Octopus from Marvel's Spider Man was his mentor, idol, and father figure. Eddie Brock from Spectacular Spider-Man was his oldest friend and practically his older brother, etc. 2. He knows when to stop talking and fight. In Marvel's Spider Man, it was when Doctor Octopus revealed he knew his identity the whole time and thus fully knew he was hurting his beloved pupil who he saw as a son. In The Spectacular Spider-Man, it was when Eddie became Venom and Peter, having experienced the symbiote's corruptive influence before, understandably sympathized and tried to save Eddie despite the latter actively putting Gwen's life in danger at the time. But he gave up on trying to talk him down when Eddie established that he was in control and had always secretly resented Peter for having a better life despite similar past circumstances and focused all his effort on saving Gwen.

Same here! Cool pfp btw dude

Same. S2 takes it by a small margin (I liked multiverse and zoom) IMO.

You both are already brave for lasting that long, I only lasted until half of season 6