ATR 72-600 for MSFS tutorial by ATR instructor - Part 4: Descent, approach and landing

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Fly with Magnar

Fly with Magnar

11 ай бұрын

This video shows the procedures for descent, approach and landing in accordance with ATR Flight Crew Training Manual.
This video is based on version 1.0.23.
Chapters:
01:37: Approach preparations
08:37: Descent
13:13: Approach
19:09: Landing from 1000 ft
You may like the following videos and playlists:
- Part 1: • ATR 72-600 for MSFS tu...
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- Part 3: • ATR 72-600 for MSFS tu...
- ATR systems: www.youtube.com/@FlywithMagna...
- ATR procedures: www.youtube.com/@FlywithMagna...
My set up:
- CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
- Graphics card: Geforce RTX 3070
- Monitor: LG Ultragear 27GP850-B
- Honeycomb Alpha flight controls
- Honeycomb Bravo throttle quadrant
- Thrustmaster Flight Rudder Pedals (TFRP)

Пікірлер: 83
@MAXimizeyourcooking
@MAXimizeyourcooking 11 ай бұрын
A tutorial some day on conducting a Missed Approach would also be very helpful, Magnar. Thank you!
@cubingwithcarl4572
@cubingwithcarl4572 7 ай бұрын
*TImestamps for myself* *2:10** - Charts - **3:35* *3:40** - Approuch Preperations - **10:00* ILS Freq - 3:49 5:05 - 5:45 Center Heading NAV Select HDG Mode Activate ILS Radio Course Activate FM Mode NAV Mode *6:35** - FLTPLAN ALT Change - **7:15* *7:15** - Perf Page - **07:50* Wind Trans ALT QNH Approuch Speed *7:54** - Minimums - **08:35* *8:37** - Descent - **10:30* Descend 240 - Knots STD Speed (Release Power If Exceeding) Descend Checklist *10:55** - Below 10 000 FT - **11:20* Seat Belts ON Wing Lights ON Landning Lights ON Reduce Speed To 200 Knots - 12:10 QNH (7000 ft) - SET Select ILS Mode - 12:30 Approuch Checklist *13:13** - Approach - **16:00* LOC & GS - BLUE AutoSpeed ON LOC & GS - Green (ILS FOUND) - 15:38 *17:10 - Final & After ILS * *Cleared To Land* Flaps 15 (what speed) Gear Down PWR Management - TakeOFF Take & TakeOFF Lights ON Flaps 30 (what speed) Before Landing Checklist *19:40** - Landing - **21:20* AutoPilot OFF YD OFF
@adv.shebinkanjirappallil1733
@adv.shebinkanjirappallil1733 11 ай бұрын
Thank You. After this series can you please try to do video on Go-Around , steps to do for a diversion & also about quick turn around.
@subwar1
@subwar1 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Magnar, will the last part be out soon?
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 11 ай бұрын
I can't thank you enough, Captain Nordal!
@predatorec
@predatorec 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Magnar!!
@18skaterboy18
@18skaterboy18 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, sir! awesome stuff
@svenwd
@svenwd 11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this series, really great.
@johnmcgloughlin9403
@johnmcgloughlin9403 11 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video. Thank you very much
@ArrRoh
@ArrRoh 5 ай бұрын
Amazing video tutorial - thank you. One of the best series I’ve seen. You make flying the ATR a dream 🎉
@jcommtube
@jcommtube 11 ай бұрын
Another Superb tutorial !!! Thank you !
@yams900
@yams900 11 ай бұрын
Tack Magnar, kämpe gott !
@jetnoise6053
@jetnoise6053 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Captain! Very much apreciated ...
@HammieNL
@HammieNL 11 ай бұрын
This serie is gold! Learn from the best ❤
@aeysim
@aeysim 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Captain for this beautiful video.
@EddiZ-BZ
@EddiZ-BZ 11 ай бұрын
Great...thank you
@Rookie_One
@Rookie_One 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! BTW, hope you had fun during your vacations!
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
I did!
@georgiostsolis1339
@georgiostsolis1339 11 ай бұрын
Wow what a landing! Thank you Captain for this Video
@cutchemist42
@cutchemist42 8 ай бұрын
Your videos are amazing, and make me love the ATR!
@HeinrichHarpo
@HeinrichHarpo 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, sir! You're my ATR's reference. Thank you for all your videos. I only fly ATR since release. I love it. Happy landings!
@MARchannel05
@MARchannel05 11 ай бұрын
glad that you made this tutorial, it is well presented. thank you Captain Magnar!
@MrHurtighans
@MrHurtighans 11 ай бұрын
Tak for instruktion. Det var meget lærerigt.
@yamilvazquezpr
@yamilvazquezpr 11 ай бұрын
Thank u
@user-bt6we8qp1h
@user-bt6we8qp1h 11 ай бұрын
Спасибо Капитан!
@vaccaro1966
@vaccaro1966 11 ай бұрын
Welcome back maestro :) I hope you find some time to make some more videos on non precision approaches.
@user-yt7tk9kb3c
@user-yt7tk9kb3c 11 ай бұрын
Grazie.
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@arb6591
@arb6591 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@brunogt1982
@brunogt1982 20 күн бұрын
well done sir, thank you for very much for your time 👍
@AbdullaYoosufff
@AbdullaYoosufff 11 ай бұрын
hello capt! Was on your flight today from Male to Gan on 8Q-IAY 😄
@janplasota5168
@janplasota5168 5 ай бұрын
After ATR's update we have an aircraft fixed some bugs of previous version. Dear Magnar, would you be so kind as to complete your wonderful guide, especially the after landing procedures?
@Trip_on_the_Sky
@Trip_on_the_Sky 11 ай бұрын
Hi captain, Could you make more videos on the Atr with Microsoft Flight simulator? I really liked the first ones, it would be sad if they were the last ones
@JohnVanderbeck
@JohnVanderbeck 10 ай бұрын
I really struggle sometimes to get the airplane slowed down on final. I was coming into KBOS today and at flaps 2 and flight idle it was still going too fast to drop the gear and get flaps 3 out. Was perfectly on GS/LOC it just refused to slow down! I ended up dumping the last flaps and got yelled at by the FMC but it was the only way I could slow down.
@paulphibbs7162
@paulphibbs7162 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to assist the sim community with the ATR. One question I have is when is MCT used as a power setting? I thought it was used on approach in preparation for a go around.
@chris22capt
@chris22capt 11 ай бұрын
Single engine failure.
@graemeobrien1554
@graemeobrien1554 5 ай бұрын
@FlywithMagnar, I have really enjoyed your series, being a new fs pilot i have learned so much, still lots to learn every flight, please can you contine the series please with taxi to gate, turnaround process, shut down process, and go around process, just so i am ready for everything, Magnar is there any where I can get a flight crew manual please
@Zulu823
@Zulu823 6 ай бұрын
Thank you captain! One quick question, for the descent we take the throttle out of notch position?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 6 ай бұрын
Yes, we control the airspeed with engine power.
@Zulu823
@Zulu823 6 ай бұрын
@@FlywithMagnar thank you for the clarification!
@cass6590
@cass6590 9 ай бұрын
Many thanks for these great videos! I have made a checklist from them to help me learn the aircraft. I did notice in this one you had aircraft on TCAS, I normally fly with 'live players' and no other aircraft set (AI or Real time), but never see anyone on TCAS although they are there in the sim. Does TCAS only work with certain multiplayer settings?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 9 ай бұрын
By default, generic traffic is active in MSFS. But they do not trigger TCAS alerts, nor do they keep their distance. On one occasion, a jetliner flew straight through me when I was on final.
@cass6590
@cass6590 9 ай бұрын
@@FlywithMagnar Thanks for the reply, for me I don't even see their markers (little diamond) or altitude difference. Will have another try and see if it is something I may be doing. Blue skies!
@doris3653
@doris3653 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! Do you set ground idle during flare or it's still flight idle? And it looks for me it's really hard to reduce the speed when you are on final. Is that the same in real life or it's just simulator model pecularity?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
The aircraft has a lock that prevents the pilots from selecting ground idle in flight. The lock opens when the main wheels are on the ground. Therefore, minimum power in flight is flight idle. The recommended procedure is to maintain 170 kts on final and start configuration 8 NM from the runway.
@budguy21
@budguy21 17 күн бұрын
you dont use ground idle if you're not on the ground
@nineteenzerothree9867
@nineteenzerothree9867 11 ай бұрын
The videos are brilliant! my only problem is that each time I select the altitude just before TOD, the TOD marker moves itself all the way up along path very way away. Thoughts?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
There are still some snags in the FMS presentation. The TOD marker should only disappear when you have started descending. When you select the new altitude, there will be a second white circle marking TOD from that altitude.
@etsfan1863
@etsfan1863 5 ай бұрын
You can wait until you get past the TOD and then start the descent
@jcsk8
@jcsk8 11 ай бұрын
Why mine is still on 1.0.20 version? That´s a beta version?
@randygodwin8160
@randygodwin8160 11 ай бұрын
I am on the same version as you. When I checked the content manager, the ATR shows to be up to date. How did he get his version?
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 11 ай бұрын
Could you explain why the glideslope diamond goes up once you get to about 100 feet? I've noticed that and thought it was an error.
@budguy21
@budguy21 17 күн бұрын
msfs has a lot of problems with inaccurate glideslopes
@yams900
@yams900 6 ай бұрын
Kämpe gott !
@NFarin
@NFarin 9 ай бұрын
What speed do you usually turn final? You can get away with 200 on an ils and 180 max on an rnp on Boeings. I wonder what the procedure on the ATR is. Also is there a procedure where you maintain a higher approach speed to blend in with traffic like maintaining vref + x till x ft/nm?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 9 ай бұрын
We have no problem blending in with other traffic. We can maintain 240 kt until 13 NM from the threshold, and 170 kt until 8 NM. This is on a 3 degree constant descent and are conservative values. If we have a jet ahead of us, ATC will often tell us to slow down earlier.
@chaoyen-wei7954
@chaoyen-wei7954 11 ай бұрын
I feel like the Asobo ATR has too much power when approaching. It has to be in idle all the time to reduce the speed or , is that real in the real ATR? By the way, thank you for the fantastic tutorial!😀
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
Asobo replicates the power pretty well. We can fly at 240 kt until 13 NM from the runway, select flight idle and be fully established well before 1000 ft. Normal torque is around 22% when we are established on final.
@user-bt6we8qp1h
@user-bt6we8qp1h 11 ай бұрын
​@@FlywithMagnarATR-42 TQ final?
@safwan2408
@safwan2408 11 ай бұрын
At 11:18 ...the curved track is showing that whenever aircraft maintain speed 240kts at that particular track will be having overturn...due to high speed turn...(or check speed on FMS on that track)... if we reduce the speed to 170kts on that track the curved will no longer showing that , it will become nicely round turn...i think...i have experienced this once in real flying...just sharing...or maybe i was wrong...
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
In that case, the curved track will be dotted. This arrival procedure is a bit tricky, as you are supposed to overfly the waypoint before the curved track.
@dx4
@dx4 4 ай бұрын
When you are descending you decided that you are going to do so with a 1500 f/min. Is that the standard descent rate? Since the aircraft can adjust VS to match 240 knots speed, is it ok if we idle the engine and let it descent that way or is that too fast?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 4 ай бұрын
Standard descent is 1500 ft/min with a speed of 240 kt. This gives a 3 degrees gradient, which is standard among airliners. It is easy to calculate the top of descent: Multiply your altitude above the airport in thousands of feet with 3, and you get the distance in Nautical Miles. Example: You are cruising at 18,000 feet above the airport. 18 x 3 = 54 NM. Idle power is useful to get rid of excessive energy, as the propeller produces a lot of drag at high speeds. But it is a waste of energy during normal operations.
@orothus1079
@orothus1079 10 ай бұрын
Hello Magnar. I have this question, or in fact a problem. What I wouldn't do in the ATR 72-600 I can't reduce the cabin temperature. I watched one of your videos on your channel about in the ATR A/C but unfortunately it doesn't work (although I'm probably doing something wrong) and I don't know how to deal with the temperature which sometimes reaches 42 degrees celcius :(
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 10 ай бұрын
The air conditioning system needs maintenance to work properly. For example, if the temperature sensor in the cabin is clogged by dust, the system will not work properly. Here are some ways to reduce the heat in the cabin: 1) During turnaround, close the window shades in the cabin. This prevents the sunlight from heating the interior. 2) In hotel mode, select high flow and move the power lever forward to the stop. This increases airflow in the packs. 3) Switch off the recirculation fans, as they mix cool air from the pack with hot air from the cabin. Hope this helps.
@orothus1079
@orothus1079 10 ай бұрын
@@FlywithMagnar Thank you Magnar for your help :D It works!!! I used option three of the above and managed to maintain the optimum temperature throughout the flight :)
@cerpogaming6746
@cerpogaming6746 10 ай бұрын
msfs installed version is still 1.0.20 ? how do you get this 1.0.23 ? ( is it a beta version ? )
@tk64681
@tk64681 5 ай бұрын
Where’s part 5? I’d like to know the proper procedure to shutdown the ATR.
@C-Swede
@C-Swede 11 ай бұрын
Do you typically do idle decent in the ATR?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
No, there's too much drag from the propellers at idle power. (Idle power acts as a speed brake ) When descending on a 3 degrees profile at 240 kt, we use 40% torque.
@C-Swede
@C-Swede 11 ай бұрын
@@FlywithMagnar Mange takk Magnar! You are an excellent educator!
@borntofly2655
@borntofly2655 3 ай бұрын
I didn't understand why you inserted the DA(360) for the approach but then I see that on the PD it is seen as MDA which on paper is 550, I don't understand English well and the translator on youtube translates worse than what I understand .... :).if you have the desire and time you can try to write a few lines to make me understand better ?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 3 ай бұрын
The "DH/MDA" selector should have been labeled "RADIO/BARO". When you use "DH", minima is defined with the radio altimeter. We only use this for ILS Cat 2 approach. When you use "MDA", minima is defined with the barometric altimeter. We use this for all other approaches, including ILS Cat 1. In ohther words, MDA on an approach chart is not the same as the "MDA" setting in the aircraft. This video explains this better: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arp_iNeTydjcmKM.html
@PriceBySize
@PriceBySize 10 ай бұрын
I heard an airplane company are looking to make prices by wheight of passangers can you explain , can you explain why they are doing this? I am just curious and i think you are the person who knows to explain this
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 10 ай бұрын
All airline companies have limitations when it comes to baggage weight. The reason is that aircraft have limited capacity when it comes to volume and weight of the baggage compartments. If you load too much payload, you have to reduce the fuel load, which means the aircraft's range is decreased. Also, a heavy aircraft must cruise at lower altitudes where the fuel burn is higher, again decreasing the range. When it comes to the passengers, most airline companies use standard weights. Those weights are increasing steadily because the general population is getting heavier. You can blame it on a poor diet and lack of physical exercise. Again, this reduces the range of the aircraft. Therefore, some "creative" people have come up with the idea that the passengers should be charged in accordance with their weight. This is, in my opinion, not the right thing to do. While many people would have benefits of losing weight, there are people who are obese because of their genes or a disease that is out of their control. Charging more from them is discrimination.
@user-bt6we8qp1h
@user-bt6we8qp1h 11 ай бұрын
ATR-42 TQ final?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
Around 22%
@user-bt6we8qp1h
@user-bt6we8qp1h 11 ай бұрын
@@FlywithMagnar Благодарю Вас
@user-jo6bn5zw6s
@user-jo6bn5zw6s 11 ай бұрын
Good afternoon, Magnar! I want to ask a question that has been of interest to me for a long time and I would like to ask the opinion of an experienced ATR-72 pilot. A plane crash that occurred on Sunday, January 15, 2023 near Pokhara Airport in Nepal. Airliner ATR 72-500 crashed while landing. What do you think was the pilot's error in this case?
@FlywithMagnar
@FlywithMagnar 11 ай бұрын
When the preliminary report was released, I made this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ra-cgpCFp6rdkas.html
@user-jo6bn5zw6s
@user-jo6bn5zw6s 11 ай бұрын
@@FlywithMagnar In general, it also seemed to me that everything happened under very strange circumstances. An experienced pilot, and allowed to commit such gross violations in piloting.
@jeeper1
@jeeper1 5 ай бұрын
Captain Nordel, how close to the real aircraft would you say this this?, taking in the consideration there is not feeling of pitch, yaw and feedback in the yoke.
@farcydebop7982
@farcydebop7982 11 ай бұрын
Such a shame the developers are now busy working on FS2024, when FS2020 is still plagued with bugged and undeveloped features.
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