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@jackcharlie9322
@jackcharlie9322 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to address the music situation north , means a lot that you listen to us , love you bro
@johndemorris7388
@johndemorris7388 2 ай бұрын
Something I heard a while ago: Fathers keep sons out of prison and daughters off poles.
@richardrobb6937
@richardrobb6937 2 ай бұрын
Based
@NornQueenKya
@NornQueenKya 2 ай бұрын
One thing the internet really killed off was trading cards. What a time to be alive
@Daemonik
@Daemonik 2 ай бұрын
Re lore When "female custodes" was very first leaked, a few of us brainstormed on discord how it would be introduced - knowing that creatives had wanted it years ago and had plenty of time to thing about it, we figured they _must_ have lore coming to explain it. My own idea was that Big E had female Custodes back in Unification Wars era. The contingent was lost in a warp storm (or stasis field or something) way back when. Big E never created more and the method of their creation was lost. Suddenly their craft gets spat out, it's 10 years later for them, 12,000 for everyone else. They have to reassimilate into a new Imperium which is very different from that they left.how will they interact with the other Custodians, the Astartes - the *Ministorum* ? It _could_ have delivered some cool stories - similar to Primarchial returns, but with different perspectives. Those who want it could have it. Those who don't could ignore it We address their absence from lore to date. Sure, it's still shoehorned and awkward, but at least it's _something_ - we figured they must have learned from the Primaris debacle and be ready to do a better job, right? But we got "they've always been there lol" 🤮🤬
@B1-997
@B1-997 2 ай бұрын
literally anything other than "they were always there" would have been better.
@trajanthegreat2928
@trajanthegreat2928 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I would still have problems with that. The Emperor never bothered to make any more after losing that contingent? There's also the whole principle of the change - why does there need to be female Custodes or space marines? It's purely there for political reasons rather than improve the 40k universe.
@Daemonik
@Daemonik 2 ай бұрын
@@trajanthegreat2928 I agree 110% that the change was made to appease - whether Amazon or the Tumblr weirdos I know nor care not. My point was solely that _if_ it had been introduced with some thought and care, it _could_ have been used to enhance the "story", open up a whole new set of internal Imperial conflicts and perspectives, and so on. Yes there are holes such as "why didn't the emperor make more?" - but the above was a snapped off TLDR not a full synopsis worthy of ctrl+c, ctrl+v to a codex! Maybe he was just tinkering when he made them as an experiment and never planned more. Maybe women were harder to craft so after the first batch he didn't make more. Maybe he was busy and didn't get round to it due to dicking about with the webway. Maybe he thought "hey I've got enough for now, when i need some more I'll do that" but got Throned before he did. I dunno, I'm not a professional BL writer. But GW _have_ pro writers who wanted to do this years ago and have had plenty of time to put something together. If they had had a smidge of respect for the customer base, they could have easily come up with *something* better. But they chose not to because they considered it wasn't worth the effort to even try and give us a canon reason why this could happen. Even Votann got a more nuanced intro than this. And that's what really stings me - that they hold us in such casual disregard that they couldn't even be bothered to give us even a crap "in-lore" reason for this change, just blocked people who called it out as bullshit that "they've always been there".
@Jethric
@Jethric 2 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie I'd love to hear more Magic or yugioh nightmares, the latter in particular is a "hold my beer" for those who think that 40k leads to outrageous behaviour.
@roblindsay3422
@roblindsay3422 2 ай бұрын
I know a lot of FLGS (mine included) that outright ban Yugioh straight out of the gate due to the reprehensible behaviour of its player base
@stephenjdutton
@stephenjdutton 2 ай бұрын
I don't think that there is any way that GW can put female space marines into the lore without making fans angry while also provoking those demanding such a change to further hurl insults at those who don't want it. It is already bad enough dealing with people who think that the original Sisters of Battle figures from the adventurers range were marines or that 3rd party magazines from the 1980s can be considered official.
@NeloBladeOfRanni
@NeloBladeOfRanni 2 ай бұрын
Honestly the only way female space marines should exist IMO is in chaos space marines and that's only because of Bile + chaos isn't exactly able to be super picky
@greendalf123
@greendalf123 2 ай бұрын
@@NeloBladeOfRanni I mean they are , not sure what you mean. Chaos Space Marines visit entire worlds where billions or trillions of human slaves/chaos worshippers live, take the fiercest and strongest boys and attempt to turn them into Astartes. Same as loyalist marines.
@B1-997
@B1-997 2 ай бұрын
@@greendalf123 female chaos marines would be something slaneesh would do, more for shits and giggles and seeing if it does anything different.
@greendalf123
@greendalf123 2 ай бұрын
@@B1-997 it’s not up to slaanesh
@Daemonik
@Daemonik 2 ай бұрын
@@B1-997 I guess Slaanesh could mutate a chaos marine (or other devotee) from appearing male to appearing female. But fabius etc using women for Astartes doesn't fly - the physical modifications are designed for males. A lot of them are hormonal, or depend on male biology. Just applying them to a female simply wouldn't work. A female could certainly be enhanced, but not with the specific Astartes process.
@House-Atreides
@House-Atreides 2 ай бұрын
I like the spirit of his female space marine alternate story concept. He correctly noted that new material is needed, not the destruction of existing content
@convertediron
@convertediron 2 ай бұрын
If there was any hobby at all that I truly wished I had my time and money back on, It would be MTG. I played for a solid year in my early 20s and just regret every cringe moment of it. Card packs and fat stacks aint worth all them ass cracks😂
@vorebiz
@vorebiz 2 ай бұрын
As an ex-YuGiOh/ex-MtG player I can confidently say that ANY trading card game when you're buying "starter decks", "structure decks" and "booster packs" is a mug's game. If you want to scratch this itch buy a couple of Deckbuilder board games and don't look back.
@darkfina3776
@darkfina3776 2 ай бұрын
Why not just make the lore that Amar Astarte was working a proto female space marine force in the Hersey and she died before it was viable, and Cawl found the remnants of the research and succeeded where she failed and they are their own legion as they share no specific primarch gene seed.
@tomcustis9272
@tomcustis9272 2 ай бұрын
You are a mentor brother, a lot of guys weren’t lucky enough to get the right guidance in their formative years. They need to hear things that seem like second nature to a lot of us.
@troublemaker9899
@troublemaker9899 2 ай бұрын
North, the saying you were looking for is " beware an old man in a profession where men die young"
@penpointred
@penpointred 2 ай бұрын
What a rollercoaster. Think u pretty much nailed the talk at the end. And yeah….i did feel for that at the end. Some people just need some proper guidance. Anyhoot..cheers yo 🍻
@DiavloPL
@DiavloPL 2 ай бұрын
It'd be less, but still the change is just not needed. its 40k setting not 2024 setting.
@hiddendragon6437
@hiddendragon6437 2 ай бұрын
That second story was absolutely hilarious. Especially with those little voices you gave the characters involved 😂
@greendalf123
@greendalf123 2 ай бұрын
Damn that last one was kinda sad.
@mkurb23
@mkurb23 2 ай бұрын
Hold on a min.... Didn't the French give the Argentinians missiles back in the day? Falklands or am I misremembering ?They are lurking around somewhere
@brassviking486
@brassviking486 2 ай бұрын
The exocets? I thought they just sold them but I could be remembering it wrong.
@colinpenfold9890
@colinpenfold9890 2 ай бұрын
They did.
@Giomancer
@Giomancer 2 ай бұрын
Malvinas, yes. The French sold the Argentines Exocet anti-ship missiles. One hit the Chinook transport, meaning the Brits had just one CH-47 for the war.. that thing did double, triple, quadruple duty.
@mkurb23
@mkurb23 2 ай бұрын
Pffft. French...sneaky feckers
@sargonixofur1234
@sargonixofur1234 2 ай бұрын
Female Space Marines - Slaanesh could do it and make interesting traitors. Or Dark Eldar could do it - snip snip!
@B1-997
@B1-997 2 ай бұрын
that way wouldnt break lore, but we all know that will never happen.
@marcmcintosh5995
@marcmcintosh5995 2 ай бұрын
A space marine chapter having to take just anyone to turn into space marines rather than taking "the cream of the crop" via testing the aspirirants...is probably doomed to die out anyway.
@nickbentz4793
@nickbentz4793 2 ай бұрын
Playing Devils Advocate here, a lone Dark Angel saved the entire Space Wolf Legion from the Alpha Legion in typical plot armor fashion in the heresy. Whole book about it
@GlennM53
@GlennM53 2 ай бұрын
"Keeping daughter off the pole." Like button is for dads who agree. (Yes, I liked my own comment)
@darkzentai7417
@darkzentai7417 2 ай бұрын
Games workshop have done lots of unpopular changes before the only thing that makes this one special is it didn’t come with a shiny new set of new models. Primaris is a good example lots of backlash and now nobody cares and actually everyone preferred the new models.
@sincenobodyasked3123
@sincenobodyasked3123 2 ай бұрын
The tea is called "Dragon Pearl" for the record
@dionisiosmarinos4285
@dionisiosmarinos4285 2 ай бұрын
It's sad that he had to get kicked out of the shop but at the same time it's not other peoples responsibility to change him and accept his BS
@TheMercian13
@TheMercian13 2 ай бұрын
18:35 As a father to two young girls, Steve is Based and 100% correct. I’ll know if I’ve succeeded as a father to them if they are not on OF or anything similar. Keep up the great content North.
@ravenRedwake
@ravenRedwake 2 ай бұрын
You know, I would like a Triceraton themed army (triceratons were an extra dimensional enemy of the Teenage mutant ninja turtles, they were all bipedal triceratops guys)
@bootsdrew1145
@bootsdrew1145 2 ай бұрын
Thanks North.
@kodepop
@kodepop 2 ай бұрын
There's already Adeptus Sororitas, I don't understand the need to make more. Maybe what they could do is make different factions of Adeptus Sororitas for variety. I'm with you on extremism on both ends, the only thing that should be extreme is the metal I listen to.
@frederickflores8152
@frederickflores8152 2 ай бұрын
"Beware of an old man in a young man's game"
@freelancerblitz2579
@freelancerblitz2579 2 ай бұрын
I was discussing with a friend about if they were to make females Space marines and we basically came to the conclusion that they were fill them with so many argumentations and testosterone they would basically just become men unless they were naked differences would be barely noticeable Kinda like in real life
@averylittle5706
@averylittle5706 2 ай бұрын
5:15 what about Sisters of Battle … couldn’t they modify them since Cawl has literally no morals? Please bear with me as I’m a Star Wars guy mostly and no one really bothers with what stormtroopers are “packing” as they all wear the same plastoid armor🤷🏼‍♂️
@bonkstrum9555
@bonkstrum9555 2 ай бұрын
space marines are built from the ground in a very specifuc way that cuurently in lore only works on men. most sisters f battle would be to old as marine moddifing starts at about 10. although i could see cawl throwing some little kids into the lab to test female marines. imo i think female marines could be a thing but they would proubly start as chidren just like cuurent marines. soory for bad grammar. if youre new to 40k lore i reccomend adpetus redicuols fro lade back content and lutin for ddep dives
@jensablefur155
@jensablefur155 2 ай бұрын
Magic the Gathering and other trading card games are the only nerd hobby I'd gatekeep my kids out of. Sorry to anyone who likes them but I think that they're an absolute waste of money and my husband who used to play several tcg's when younger agrees with me.
@Havran228
@Havran228 2 ай бұрын
I shouldn't be surprise you know Wrangler.. I am tho, because almost nobody I know, knows him.. great dude. I would love to smoke a pipe with him at sunset
@DiavloPL
@DiavloPL 2 ай бұрын
Humanist - is the best of all nist's
@masterwilliam8704
@masterwilliam8704 2 ай бұрын
Well just had my 20th wedding anniversary at the beginning of the month. The key to a good marriage is if you are willing to give up anything for the other and they are willing to do the same, you will always have room to compromise. I feel women these day see a relationship as what can I get out of this with the least amount of reciprocating. I still believe most men would do anything for a women. There are bad apples and unfortunately most women go after them, mainly so they can complain about how shitty men are.
@Bobbymaccys
@Bobbymaccys Ай бұрын
North going off on Tate-a-boos, yes mate! ❤
@Twr0740
@Twr0740 2 ай бұрын
As far as female Custodes, just treat them like Schrödinger's Cat. Until the helmet comes off they are neither male or female. It will just be based off YOUR perspective. If you want only males in your army, congrats, you succeeded. Want all females? That's fine as well. Just don't push it onto your fellow players.
@derekthomasanderson9761
@derekthomasanderson9761 2 ай бұрын
I agree with the one submitter - ADD new ideas/things into the lore, do not modify old lore and slap the die hard friends in the face. Instead add the new female characters and create a unique back story why they exist and what happened to them, make it new and exciting, don't gaslight fans!!!!
@ravenRedwake
@ravenRedwake 2 ай бұрын
30:17 I love watching women’s volleyball and tennis. That’s the evil “male gaze” but I like a hot chick in a cute outfit.
@slavetotheparasites413
@slavetotheparasites413 2 ай бұрын
Do you reckon that the female custodes thing is potentially a primer to the upcoming TV series? Maybe they're getting the fan based used to changes such as this so they can Disney the fuck out of the TV series?
@ravenRedwake
@ravenRedwake 2 ай бұрын
5:44 🙁
@RazielLordOfSecrets
@RazielLordOfSecrets 2 ай бұрын
The female space marine story bit would break the lore even more, such as space marines tampering with their geneseed. Female space highly likely going to happen, how gw does it will probably half assed and make no sense. The last part, you kind of have to remind them. Men don't attack women physically or verbally. They should step up to the plate and be a real man (I know you don't like that phrase).
@saberxsamusyangbang5661
@saberxsamusyangbang5661 2 ай бұрын
never heard of tate until a few months ago and yeah i cant stand him i dont hate him because in all honestly hes a nobody he a scammer predator.he by the time he reaches 40 will be a full fledge nobody,its sad because i see why young men follow these people there are way too many weak father figures
@bigcat99100
@bigcat99100 2 ай бұрын
Very few " woman haters" actually approach women in my experience .
@SkyeFox713
@SkyeFox713 2 ай бұрын
I think the only way for female SM is one of the missing primarks to come back as a female. Would still cause an uproar, and those that are for femSM would be aloud to hurle insults while knowing there wont be conciquences for them.
@B1-997
@B1-997 2 ай бұрын
wouldnt it also invalidate a few hombrew chapters that hint at using geneseed from one or both of the missing primarchs?
@hellcat64
@hellcat64 2 ай бұрын
for the female custodies. i would have wrote it that fabius bile figured out how to make natural born marines. and a mechanicus unit along with grey knights or inquisition found his lab. cawl gets word, he steals the body of a female marine. takes it to earth as hes being hunted by the mechanicus and gilliman. goes to earth where custodian gene seed is the most purest and sturdy out of all them. and using a gene seed and his lab. he was able to make a female custodian. which the custodians would praise and the rest of those who know would be more angry
@greendalf123
@greendalf123 2 ай бұрын
I dont think thats how Custodians are made.
@Daemonik
@Daemonik 2 ай бұрын
Only issue really being that Custodians don't use gene seed, that's just an Astartes thing. The Custodes are genetically handcrafted from the very core, individually. Gene seed was an attempt to "industrialise" the creation of transhumans. You could adapt the core concept though to make it work as well as anything else though. I posted elsewhere in this thread my own pet theory I had when the leak first occurred 👍
@jegglz3845
@jegglz3845 2 ай бұрын
Just do not add Female space marines, you directly already wrote quite a bit of lore saying this was not possible. Custodes i am totally fine with since they are hand crafted and a totally different process. If you do not and say you will not, the worst you lose is what maybe 10 people total? this minority has to be insanely small to worry about such a useless topic that has already been getting kicked around for a long time and rejected for just as long.
@destyrian
@destyrian 2 ай бұрын
First story, nope. As you said it's overly obvious what they are doing if they make female space marines. My question is why would you want female space marines? What's the obsession? You have sisters of battle which are awesome and incredibly similar anyway in terms of wargear and behaviour. It's because someone said no women allowed. That's all. They turn it into feminist nonsense. When you say no men allowed, no one cares however. No one is asking for a Brother of Battle. Don't give into these people. Don't compromise with them. They are here to push an agenda not to get involved in the game. Gatekeep the shit out of it when it comes to them.
@darkroom0716
@darkroom0716 26 күн бұрын
I really think no quarter should be given by adding these levels of political correctness to the lore. For one, I go to Warhammer to get away from the endless DEI and culture war BS. For two, the Imperium by design isn't supposed to be a place where different sexes, races and beliefs are equal. Its tyrannical to what used to he a degree of parody.
@mayofrench5170
@mayofrench5170 2 ай бұрын
Instead of breaking the lore with female space marines GW should expand the Sisters of Battle. The Imperial faith takes many forms that reflect the cultures of the planets they are on. It stands to reason that this could be reflected in the equipment and fighting styles of the Sororitas from these planets. As an example, a heavily Norse or Celtic inspired culture would produce Sisters with a very different aesthetic. Unfortunately this would probably not satisfy the activists who want female space marines. The activists want the poster boys faction to reflect their political motivations. I think pandering to this small activist minority will harm 40K. I seriously doubt sales would improve. If anything sales would probably drop due to hobbyists on the other side of the argument leaving the hobby. Personally I think people should build and paint their minis how they want. It is a big galaxy with plenty of room for unique chapters with divergent lore. I don't want politics in my Friendly Local Game Store and I absolutely don't want it at my gaming table. On X I often see nicely painted female space marine models. Many of them cross my boundaries when they are painted in pride colors. To me it is sad that truly gifted painters are so saddled with their politics that they have to make these painting choices. I think it is really shitty that I would likely be labelled a transphobe or bigot of some sort for not wanting female space marines. Again inserting real life politics into the hobby. Sad that a loud and militant few can throw so much division and hate onto my hobby.
@user-RC85
@user-RC85 27 күн бұрын
I'm get increasingly frustrated with your videos, not the content which is awesome, or your opinions which largely aligns with my own. No. My frustration is coming from having to leave your videos to go to Google to see what T.F. some of the things you're saying are, red pill guy, incel etc. Man I hate getting old and left behind in pop culture 😂 P.s. yes I googled , I know what they are now. 😂
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