Beard blink twice if they have your family hostage!

is this a commercial? lol

There's an interesting juxtaposition going on here between "look how their stock price has risen, they must be doing something right", versus appealing to the emotional value of the hobby

10 minutes of history and 3 minutes of "you guys are too negative!"

I swear this looks like GW has Beards family hostage and he's reading their script with a gun pointed at him behind the camera. I was expecting him to start blinking morse code towards the end.

I think the most straightforward response is a series of questions: 1) Why does the new CoS Marshal cost $45? 2) How does this topic relate to the steady exodus of creatives from GW? 3) How is a company with record-high stocks also noted for having an informal ceiling on the pay of creatives and staff despite the length of service or quality of service these employees provide? 4) How are products like boarding actions presented as a new feature of the game, and then almost no discernable steps are made to incorporate them into upcoming products. 5) Why is the upcoming kill team release essentially recycled terrain and creatively limited posed models. Both are being charged according to their current pricing plan. 6) How do the executive compensation plans impact the ability or the willingness of the company to pay more competitive and fair wages to their employees. 7) Why are the new jump assault intercessors charged $60 for only 5? 8) Why does GW still charge full price to the current rulebook for 10th edition 40k when so many things in it have changed? 9) What is the relationship between GW and content producers that receive special access to products? How does this influence responses to company decisions and create a culture of false positivity? 10) Why is Fulgrim $270? Like we can trade stories back and forth about positive memories. I still have my first GW mini, a metal Chaplain from back in 2003. It was a tough part of my life, and mini-wargaming has been a relative mainstay for me, I can credit the hobby with helping me become a thoughtful, creative, and caring person. That said, it was the hobby that did for me. GW is either a company or a community, and there is significant and purposeful, confusion about this. GW won't take me out fishing, but they will continue fishing money out of my wallet for underdeveloped products, poor treatment of their employees, and providing further examples of how treating table top games as a live service isn't a viable business plan. Also, just so people know, all those late 8th and 9th edition books they released that messed up game flow, like the Ad-Mech books and Psychic Awakening, were prolly their attempt at Season Passes. This isn't a live service game.

Their business practices are very questionable some times. What struck me recently was the fact, that they kept selling chaos mutilators while beeing perfectly aware, that these would be gone with the shortly upcomming codex release.

FYI the actual video title doesn't start until 9:45 and doesn't explore the criticisms people have. This feels like a rather clickbaity video. "This video is not about Games Workshop" well maybe don't title it why does everyone hate Games Workshop then...

They killed the Astartes youtube series. They censored all video creators just trying to create free hype for their game. They scammed people for the App. I'm Australian and have lost both kidneys to pay for miniatures because they increase prices based on exchange rate but never adjust when the rate goes down, making them hilariously inflated. Every rules iteration has been worse. They still pump and dump with overpowered rules for new models to sell well and then adjust them down 4 months later with the cash in hand. They killed Warhammer Fantasy. They are symbolic of a company captured by marketers and MBA's in leadership that is committed to slashing and burning for every dollar. You guys are paid influencers for them, it's not the same relationship we have. Oh and they sold me an Astra Militarum rulebook for $80 AUD that expired 2 months later as the edition changed and it couldn't be used anymore.

The biggest issue for me is the price and the constant price hikes. It makes it hard to stay invested and even harder to bring friends into the hobby. The cost of entry alone is ridiculous

Blink twice if you're saying all this at gunpoint.

Criticise a compagny and calling out bad commercial practices should never be labelled as hate.

Video is just a small history recap of GamesWorkshop and has almost no content relating to video title. Title falls firmly into the category of clickbait after watching. Edit: Even after changing the title having “hate” in it make little sense.

Pricing practices, they don't credit their artists, overly litigious, treatment of fans, treatment of employees...

Some hate, many just point out the utter lack of respect for the customers, the loss of caring about there own hobby (this is as a company, not the many employees who still do care, within a money grabing environment), and the explotation of a dedicates fan base. They still produce some fine stuff, enough to generate enough passion that people dont just walk away, but will try and fight for the good of the hobby.

Thanks for the video, Joe. Management says that's exactly what they were looking for, and you did a great job diminishing the position of those who would oppose us. I particularly love how you mentioned something from 9th edition as an item you disliked, implying it has been fixed with 10th edition--perfection! You have earned your pay this day. Now, excuse me while I get back to deleting some old promises on social media and stealth editing advertisement articles. Note: I think I was supposed to email this? I'd hate for it to get lost in the mail like the plans for the Rogal Dorn tank's bottom, HAHAHA!! Seriously, though, if you don't hear from me again, tell my family I love them. Boss said if I missed up again, they'd lock me in the dungeon and pretend they never even heard of me just like they did with Cursed City...

As some have pointed out, I'm not sure what the goal of the video was. I, too, enjoy the hobby, but that doesn't mean I can't dislike some of the directions GW is heading. My grievances are 'all of the above' and then some. However, a recent annoyance of mine is that, in 40K 10th edition, it seems the rules writers didn't learn a thing from 9th edition and we started with some of the same issues with armies that we had previously. Also, on a personal note, it feels like most of the armies lost flavor and I don't really feel a difference playing one army to another. Hating on GW doesn't necessarily have to be for the sake of hate. I think a lot of fans want these things heard because we love the hobby so much, and we'd like for GW to listen.

interesting video. could have just been titled 'a brief history' instead of 'why does everyone hate' bc it didnt really discuss reasons to hate until very briefly at the end, and it wasnt much of an analysis but rather just a quick rattle. ultimately, i dont focus on the hate online and gloss over most of it. me and my play group love 40k for many of the same reasons as you. im sure in your position it seems like a big deal as you are in a position to see critical comments in your comments and people probably complain a lot to you in person since they see you as an insider. dont let it bring you down, keep up making good vids

"Running out of a time a little bit", you know there's no time limits on videos on youtube right? :D

They're a company not a friend and as such we as the consumers should be critical of them in order to make sure our needs are met. As an Aussie I think i have a right to hate the company for charging me double what they charge other countries for the same product

Years ago, I painted a Dark Angel army and they released Primaris and now the product line is slowly being replaced. After that, I painted an Armies of Nagash army that was a little bit of everything. They split my army into several factions (Nighthaunt, Vampires etc) and now the army is unplayable. Way back, I collected Warhammer fantasy and they killed the line. Now, it's coming back but they've changed the base size so classic players can't use their old collections. When I spend hundreds of hours on something, I want that collection to be good for a lifetime. This isn't Magic: The Gathering sets. This is a hobby that takes a lot of time and sweat. Tabletop Tactics wouldn't get this because they probably don't paint their own collections, they commission them out.

What an absolute disjointed mess of a critique. First of all, why is the vast majority of the video dedicated to the history of GW? You don’t really go anywhere with it except with an admission of nostalgia being a hell of a drug. If this was really a video on why people hate GW (and not just clickbait) the least you could have done is made a comprehensive list of the offenses GW has committed and not just what you have personally disliked, answering the question- “Why does everyone hate Games Workshop” Instead this just coming off as consume product, and just ignore all their faults proposition. Obviously I’m into Warhammer, that’s why I’m watching this, but to brush away the valid criticism and faults of the company because negativity, feels utterly naive.

Agree with other comments, it doesnt really address why people dont like GW. As an Aussie, there's no way I can continue supporting the game with the current ridiculous prices.

Don't ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product. Just embrace positivity, bro.

It's becoming very expensive, less consumer friendly, and it's been moving away from its roots and not encouraging creativity like it used to. This is how I feel at least.

Games Workshop has some serious nasty business practices. For instance the new 40App., they want us to pay 6.99 a month. And then you find out you still don’t have acces to your armies datasheets. That behind yet ANOTHER paywall. Forcing you to have to by the physical codex as-well..

The first time I've ever downrated a video. To ask a auestion about why people dislike GW and then ignore the question simply isnt fair. Does GW have good points? Yes they do, but you dont go and ignore all the bad points. Interesting video Beard, well presented, edited and scored, however content severly lacking and biased.

Are we pretending that charging $60 for one mini isn't worthy of our contempt?

It's easy not to understand when GW sends you figures and codexes for free. Most of us don't like our armies to be made either obsolete or competitively redundant, especially when it is so obvious GW simply wants to force us to buy another army. GW could make a cynic out of Job. Similarly, this video makes me cynical of how deep you are in GWs pockets.

Were you paid to tell this story about how fantastic they are, and simply ignore why people hate the company today? you just talk about the company's goals and what they have done.

This was a weird video TTT. Seemed like a wrapped up love letter to the almighty GW. Look, I am not going to say they are a good company. They are just like any billion dollar corporation, and especially in the states, we understand that all to well. Greed and profit margins will always be key to please executives and shareholders. Do they make the best multi-part plastic miniatures on the market? Yes absolutely. Are they due for criticism about their brand, actions, and decisions made? ABSOLUTELY. I agree that we should enjoy the hobby, and try to focus on that as much as possible, but considering the size and span of Games Workshop and Warhammer as a whole, conversation's like this are going to continue and they should. I think that you guys especially should hold Games Workshop accountable considering your influence over the hobby online, and at events.

You glance over some serious issues and make it sound like it's no big deal.

Hyperbolic clickbait with a weird side order of nostalgia.

I think something to consider is that toxic positivity is a thing. Games Workshop is foremost a company dedicated to maximizing profits. If loyal hobbyists only dwealt on the positive and neglected to call GW out, what would happen? Most likely, GW taking advantage of their customers trust. A company will always try to maximize the ratio between profits and thier clients emotions. Its important to be mad, and to call out greedy decisions, or else why would GW change anything for the betterment of their customers?

This was a weird video and even a little bit after watching it, I am not quite certain what exactly was the argument it was trying to make. Or rather I perhaps I do, I just don't if it succeeded at it. While I completely agree that there is overt hostility over minor things often and people are far too stubborn in their views on what is the obviously 'right' choice, there was an odd implication here that if you like your hobby, just be happy about it and don't complain about. I mean, yes, there was that list of personal dislikes, but then it went on how awesome a company GW is and all that in the end. And again, I don't think that is their opinion, I've listened to their podcast discussions, but I also don't really know what the point here was aside from a love letter to Games Workshop for giving this gift to the world. Also connecting the increased stock prices as evidence of them doing something right is certainly a choice. I guess the issue is for me is that this is a complicated topic and I do think it would have benefitted from being a longer discussion about what makes expressed criticism reasonable and when do we veer into overt negativity. When trying to a short video like this where half of it is the history of Games Workshop which doesn't have really anything to do with the topic, it's just hard to really succeed in saying anything.

I decided to get up to speed with the new 10th edition Nid models. Went into GW site, put 3 neurolictors, a deathleaper and a biovore in the basket. Basket said 200 euros. This is 200 euros for five (5) infantry models. Not units, models. Happily closed the basket and never shopped. Ye, GW can go suck it.

Boys boys boys boys boys... WHY have you made this video? Is it a serious attempt to understand why so many consumers hate games workshop, or an attempt to distract from and diminish the feeling in the community? In other words: is this a genuine conversation, or gaslighting? See, one of the first issues is obviously Tabletop Tactics has an NDA with GW... so everything you say comes from the position of having your bread buttered and you know the price from straying off script. Pointing at Games Workshops vast profits, because computer games have certainly massively boosted their earnings on top of the covid bonus creating hobbyists, is not the win you think it is. If the company is doing so well, why is it delivering so poorly? Why is it no damn assault marines for Horus Heresy after an entire year, but we get a replacement for what we already had, bolter marines, and a demon primarch useless to anyone without an emperors children army, and this is supposed to be customer service? There are countless examples, but I think the selling useless cardboard with 10th edition was a real low point, as was the state of the game on release, and I find myself asking the question: WHO ACTUALLY WANTED 10th EDITION IN THE FIRST PLACE? Gw has big problems. There rules are beyond a mess, they are a joke, their games system is too convuluted to be playtestable by their own admission and horrifically dull to watch on you-tube. For years they have coasted on the minis and seen the rules as just something that gives people an excuse to buy models. But they are being out competed now and 3D printing is coming on so fast it will surely be massively more popular by the end of the decade. Games Workshop would not be the first company to wither on the vine of its own success, I point to Atari just before the bust because suddenly the consumers wouldnt put up with being ripped off and fobbed off anymore: massive profits? Potentially a massive bubble, but if GW did go pop, SO WHAT? Their rules will circulate online and the market place is full of models to play them with: Thats surely GW's biggest fear: its captive audience coming to realise, they just dont need them anymore.... Maybe they should show some humility, and some respect, and start delivering high quality good value products again, like they used to, in the "golden age" you boys spent 80% of this video waxxing lyrical about... some of us really WERE there, if you grasped that, you would understand even more thoroughly why GW has pissed so many gamers off... it let us DOWN...

Hate is a silly word to use for criticism.

Confusing video.. Doesn't list most problem with GW, and the solution he offers is "stay positive" - Also, the first 9 min. is just a recap of the history of GW. Seems super clickbaity title to me.

Is this not obvious? Apathy is for things you don't care about. I care about Warhammer, so I have emotional reactions, positive and negative, to what Games Workshop does with it. As their customer, you absolutely should be telling them when they make decisions you disagree with because, as you pointed out, they do listen to that feedback (sometimes)

Do you have 10 hours to read? Because I have a LOT of reasons.

People hate Games Workshop because they are not a good company. They make good models, but they are not a good company. They inflate prices far beyond reasonable metrics, they are tone deaf to the issues surrounding their game, they are heavy-handed in any of their IP management decisions and time and time again they blunder their way through releases. In regards to the prices.. the stockists make about 40 to 50 points on a model kit when they sell it at GW site prices. So a $90 model costs around $50 to get into the store; and GW is still making a profit off of that model when sold to stockists, so that means that to make and ship the model the actual worth of the kit should be around $20 to $25. When sold on the website, they bypass the stockists and make pure profit and charge the buyer for shipping (unless they purchase enough to waive it). Their saving grace has been the Warhammer name and that there no centralized location to get "not-warhammer" STLs to print at home.

Good….Good…. Just as planned. Kind regards, Games Workshop shareholder.

Wow, a guy who is nostalgic for Warhammer and owes his lively hood from being in the good graces of GW is overly positive, who would've guessed. I love their IPs but Games Workshop clearly has zero respect for their fanbase, they increase the prices of plastic yearly, remove units from the game, take down fan made content of their IP from websites such as KZfaq and just have a general sense of not caring for their customers and doing whatever it takes to increase profits above all else, and you brush off all criticsm despite it being perfectly valid. This video has put a bad taste in my mouth, and judging from most over comments I am not alone in this, I won't be watching anymore of your content going forward.

For a hobby that thrives on the social aspect (as you usually need other people to play with) ... they been constantly making their products more inaccessible both in price and availability to other players (which in turn double dips on the price since scalpers have a holiday with GW products). It's true they put out the best minis out there (been playing since the late 80's) and the most successful game company , but they have an unsustainable growth model ... how many price hikes can we take? I love to introduce new people to the hobby , but the prices are pretty unforgiving.

Shouldn't sponsored content be clearly marked as such?

Why does everyone hate Games Workshop? Well, there's the insistence of putting everything they can behind a paywall. The inconsistent rules and game balance. The price creep for plastic miniatures, and the ever increasing barrier to entry. Their brutal and aggressive litigation practices. Their opposition to third-party parts, despite this supposedly being a "creative" hobby. Their refusal to credit their artists and creative staff properly. Their insidious use of FOMO, especially with their website "promotions" which don't really offer any discounts. Speaking of their website, the recent changes are awful. And that's just for starters.

I feel the same way about them as I do about Bethesda.

People hate it because they are passionate about it and feel betrayed. There are actual evil corporations, governments, NGOs, etc but the visceral hatred isn't there because they didn't ever evoke positive feelings. Investment makes people feel like they have some ownership.

Very weird and dismissive video. I understand what you mean when you criticize social media's overuse of hate-as-content but no one wants Games Workshop to be 'perfect' when they're asking them to credit their artists, reduce their exorbitant prices or stop exploiting their dedicated fanbase. If anything this video is far more guilty of the 'hate-as-content' trend since you didn't barely spoke about the topic at hand, instead favoring to run through Games Workshops' history for 10 of the 13 minutes. I understand you love the hobby and don't like seeing so many people being overly critical of it but saying stuff like 'it was as so much worse 2 decades ago so why not ignore the bad and focus on the good' is really, really missing the point of criticism in the first place.

How much are they paying you?

It’s more of a love/hate relationship. Love their minis and games. Hate their exorbitant prices and the way they sell their products. Kinda hate the way they prioritise new people over long term loyal customers.

Damn TT, how's it come to this 💲💲💲

I'm surprised that I have yet to see a comment addressing my issue. My problem is that since the middle of 9th edition, there has been a steady increase in monopose kits replacing the old modular ones. The CSM possessed being one of them. I love the new models, they're very gorgeous and highly detailed. But running a squad of 10 brings up a pattern of copy/paste repetition (with minimal arm/head swaps sometimes) that really bugs me. I didn't mind this with cultists because the large mobs of infantry gave the squads enough bodies to split up the duplicates and create the illusion of model diversity. It's a really hard thing to ignore with bigger models like space marines. Not to mention that GW is charging more for less modular models that leave you off with less spare bits to store away for later projects/kitbashes.

I am more than half way through the video and there is nothing about why people hate GW, change the title or change the video

i hate them for the rules paywall at the moment

For me it's that EVERY publication they release including novels, rulebooks etc... ALL have either spelling mistakes, rules mistakes, grammatical errors etc... You'd think a company this large would have dedicated proof readers. Also, for me they do seem to be more interested in tournament play for 40k.

This is probably the worst kind of video you could have done on the matter. You could have named the video "a quick history of GW" there is more information on why people hate GW in the comments than on the video. This serves no purpose whatsoever. Kinda dissapointed. But oh well my opinion means jack.

I have no clue what the idea behind this was. Are you trying to remind us to enjoy our own hobby? Is this an underhanded attempt to quell and invalidate people's feelings towards GW? I just can't tell, but it reeks of survivorship bias. A lot of fans were left behind for many reasons. Those who don't enjoy the current edition run out of people to play older ones with, their hobby dies out for them. Those who can't afford the two price hikes per year can't afford new miniatures, so their collection stagnates and the hobby gets stale. Those who don't like the new models have their old ones rotated out of the lore and rules, forcefully pushed out of what they loved. Those who don't want to fund a shitty and disrepctful company like GW don't want to hand over for it anymore, so they have to leave too. Just because you guys still enjoy your hobby and have the ability to continue, doesn't mean everyone else can too. There's a lot who can't return for any number of reasons, they lost their reason to socialise, they lost their peace with it, they lost their passion for it, and it wasn't their choice. It's not nice, and it leaves a really sour taste in the mouth when someone in a respected position in the community such as yourselves come out with a video that seems to imply you're shushing this all away because you're enjoying it - so everyone else must be too. You can be happy about the hobby all you like, but many people have every right not to be, I really hope this isn't your take and that I misunderstood this strange, strange video.

so apart from the price gouging of the community with 20% price rises year on year where plastic and resin are literally pence per litre (i know as i work in a plastic molding company). The dodgy currency conversion system to rip off the Aussies and Yanks, cant write a rule book to save their lives and try £40 for it. The company is swell, heck at this rate we can say Creative Assembly are swell as well. You cant tell me the models that are 20+ years old should be £30-£50 now. I remember when the land raider 'current one for 40k' came out was £25, how the hell is it £55 now, the mold for that thing was paid off years ago. How are warp spiders from 2nd edition £30 now, no way in hell even with inflation. Shall we also say how awfully pay the staff are, to a point they dont advertise the pay

issues with the game itself aside, i think its easy for UK presenters to somewhat gloss over the price because they arent subjected to the same price gouging as other regions. the united states is games workshops largest market, comprising approximately 43% of their total market according to the 2022 data. the united states minimum wage is just over 40% lower than the UKs when converted to british pounds. games workshop products however are 20-30% more expensive even when converted in currency. the new lioness of the parch kit in the UK is 90 pounds. in the US it is $150. $150 converted to pounds is 123 british pounds, so you can see how these prices are grossly inflated in their largest market which also has significantly lower average wages.

I mean no offence by this but this genuinely came across as "Here is the history of GW, see they're not so bad after all because I made some friends, here are a few things I hate grrrr, besides there are much bigger things to hate in the world that you can focus on instead. Hating on GW is just a meme you guys now lets have a group hug. with our friends at GW." You could have quite easily dropped the hate section and stretched it out into an interesting history of GW instead of leading with the click bait title.

TT is suckling at the GW teet, as such this video is baseless pondering ending with a message of “GW is fine and you should cut them some slack”.

One of the positives is that there are other, better, companies to buy games and minis from now.

I watch for battle reports, not a positive PR push. Sponsored content is starting to show. Also anywhere outside the UK has to perform sacrifices to heathen gods for models to come back in stock or prices to stay reasonable.

The business practices are so overtly predatory that I buy less than I would normally be inclined. The art direction of the models and creativity of the lore are what overcome these problems, and that is what hobbyists love. We don’t think about the dubious business nature while building and painting, we think about it while looking at the price of a codex.

I think they have gone from a small friendly company when l started back in the late 90s to a huge company which doesn't really care for it's players, just seeing them as cash cows. I remember going to Games days with a load of books, meeting Andy Chambers, Gav Thorpe, Graham Mc Neil, Sandy Mitchell, Nick Kyme, Steve Lyons, Ben Counter, James Swallow and the God that is Dan Abnett. A quick chat and then an autograph in said book and l was happy. Meeting the Forget World team and getting them to sign the new opus. The much missed Alan Bligh. Chatting with Warwick Kinrade. Games Workshop have lost the human touch. They still make the best models out there but it's not just about that. Now l know after COVID things have changed and you can no longer play at your local store. I used to love late night Thursdays, not just playing but the friendships that were built. No l don't hate Games Workshop, hate would be too strong a word but l think they could try harder to reassociate themselves with their fanbase. I still love the lore though.

Title seems misleading just a history and doesn't speak to any controversies at all. :(

I always remember the "Warhammer is for everyone, but..." post from a few years ago. No, there can be no "but" either it's for everyone or it's not, and that includes people who you may not like or agree with. Oh, and killing independent fan animations, the price gouging, the treatment of fans and employees. I liked the old lore, but I haven't given GW a penny since the early 2000's and that's unlikely to change.

I am tired of decades of price rises and 10th edition's rules previews and the treatment of the Adeptus Mechanicus army have left me cold but I've rotated to painting up my Blood Bowl teams instead of 40k. That aside, I'm getting bored of all the "That's it! Another tactical rock! I'm going to pirate all my armies with a 3d printer!" nonsense that I've heard so often these days. I think there has been quite a few mis-steps in recent years but It just feels like these is too much negativity around GW these days. If people don't want to deal with GW anymore that's fine but I guess it's the fact that people have to make so much noise about it. It's like a metaphor of people that have had a bad experience at a retail store and instead of going to shop elsewhere they spend the rest of time outside the offending shop bemoaning how much they dislike said shop instead.

Impressive how yall made a 15min video about a topic completely seperwte from the title. Keep to tabletop lads

I love you guys, but this was a pretty gutless way to drive clicks for a short history of GW.

Games Workshop doesn't have customers, Games Workshop has hostages.

Was this video sponsored by Games Workshop?

It's always interesting reading why people leave GW over the years, as it's usually the exact same reason people were leaving 20+ years ago. Not much has changed I guess.

Look at the prices for the new Cities of Sigmar models, the hate is understandable.

My problem with Gw is there greed and unprofessionalism as a self proclaimed luxury brand. The greed is unreal $5 price hikes each year regardless off inflation, not cool

Either I don't really get the point of this video, or there is none 😐. Sure, it was nice to hear about the history of the company a bit, but that history was left completely unconnected to the question in the title? Is the conclusion that we shouldn't criticise the company because it has a long history 🤷‍♂️? And that it's nice being nice because it feels nice?

No one mentioned the exponential price hikes?

What did I just watch?

What's behind the hate? The constant and repeated f*cking over of their fans. There: i just saved everyone 13:07. Clickbait crap...

I usually don't do comments but anyway: I'm sorry, but I can't take anyone seriously who claims to be critical of GW while also having a somewhat partnership with them. Your "hate"-takes are the most non-critical critics I could imagine you can give without stepping on GW's toes. I don't blame you for that. After all, you want to be on GW's good side. You can't go out and say that their price politics are horrendous. Their rules change faster as they can print the books. They cut off any artists and creators on KZfaq. They invented a way through sub-systems like warcry to produce miniatures without bothering about the rules for the main games. (they give them bad rules afterwards) Anyway, GW is going the same route like Magic the Gathering and Blizzard(World of Warcraft): Milk the customers as much as possible with minimum effort and apologise afterwards with a "We heard you community...". Don't get me wrong, I really love Warhammer and I'm in the hobby half my life but this hobby is nothing without the community and it's time to give the community something back. Like free rules, free armybuilder and support for artists and content creators on KZfaq.

Could‘ve had a bit more detail. I don’t hate GW by any stretch, they are very frustrating at times though and you should definitely shine some more light on both sides

Guys, if youre reliant on GW patronage dont make these kinds of videos. Your fans see exactly what youre doing and wont respond well to it, and youre not answering the question you posited anyway. I say avoid the vitriol and do what you guys do best, curating one of the best communities anywhere.

They put passionate and talented fandom projects behind a paywall. Set Astartes II free...!

This is the first video that you have produced that leaves me... meh... i think you may be too deep in your bubble to realise gw is kicking people out of the hobby. Prices go up but WAY WORSE than that is that they make armies you spend hooours building and painting obsolete. They followed the meta and forgot this is a hobby not an e-sport.

Prices , inconsistency , quality of models, price…

I think the title of this video should have been a history of Games Workshop, instead of why all the hate. It really didn't go into the many scandals or troubles the company has had over its lifetime. It's fine to just say ignore the hate but I think it's another to brush its troubles under the rug in a video that is supposedly about that history. Again I don't mind the stay positive and have fun message but this felt disenjenus.

This was a miss TT. Love you guys but i think this hasnt hit the mark of the title at all im afraid :(

I think most people aren't just haters for the sake of it, they love the creative side of Games Workshop and a lot of the designers, artists, lore and other stuff that goes into it, they just hate the corporate side and some of the stupid decisions they make. Admittedly some of the things he lists in this video that he hates are similar to what I think too. But I think objective negativity serves a purpose, because while there's the Commissar Gamzas of the world just being salty for clicks, most people just want their hobby to be better and enough backlash keeps companies like GW in line and (hopefully) gives us improvements.

Just have a look on 10th BETA edition. The game is not finished and must be patched hardly for months. The last codices from 9th Edition lasted only some weeks. 45€ for one book with rules for 3 months? really? Changing the colours or scale is also not consumer friendly. So the Primaris range and killing the old range. Though they saw it coming after Indomitus and went a step back with Terminators and Scouts. Same for the Aeldari.

I kinda feel like TT are slowly becoming The Nerd Crew of the hobby.

Hard to enjoy the hobby when the company responsible for supplying the rules by which 99% of people play the game invalidates tons of models with new editions, that you also have to pay for via codexes and rule books. Not to mention they are models that have love put into them, only to be forced into replacing them with sterile, overpriced new kits because you cannot actually use that loadout, or the scale of the model changed, or the model itself simply no longer exists in the rule books. I think the fact that even after watching this video the majority of comments are negative of GW show that it's far more than people being pessimistic, GW is not the same company anymore.

Why are so many KZfaqrs making videos defending GW?

I really hate to type this out and I know I'm going to come off super toxic and generic KZfaq comment but I really prefer the old tabletop tactics. Your production quality has went through the roof but the overall enjoyment and genuine feel has plummeted. You've shaved all enjoyment out of watching you guys play the game just because it cuts down on the runtime. I miss the two and a half 3 hour games where the first 20 to 30 minutes was everybody sitting around going over their list and just ripping each other. As far as the video goes I'm not even going to watch it but based on the comments here it's almost more of the same kind of dribble with you guys have been putting out for the past year where you are defending a billion dollar corporation I get it, I'd sell out too because I know that y'all need money just like anyone else and you all have families and careers and stuff and while I'm happy to see you guys reach another level I don't like the outcome. Just full corpo generic YTers now

Honestly, not a fan of this video. Maybe if had been a purely history video i wouldnt have minded, but being so blantantly click bait has soured me a little towards TTT. I love you guys and what you do, please dont stoop to such tactics and if you are going to advertise that you are going to cover something please cover it more thoroughly. This was quite disappointing.

GW kills my entire space marine army (firstborn) in order to force me to buy primaris.... So yeah, i have a very good reason to hate GW 😉

My opinion is that it would have been good to see at least a mention or more discussion of things that I've seen that genuinely contribute to the dislike some folks have for some of GW's decisions/business practices. Like many people, I find myself truly enjoying the hobby and admiring the work of GW's creative teams, but disliking many of GW's customer-hostile business approaches and policies. I've seen people point to a lot of factors that contribute collectively to the "everyone hates GW" impression, including: The bungled cancellation of Warhammer Fantasy and the initial lackluster launch of Age of Sigmar; the increasing expense of fielding many AoS and 40K armies on a point per GW retail $ basis; instituting paywalls over basic army index information; the general exorbitant cost of GW's products; abandoning expensive and popular boxed games (i.e., try to find the expansion sets for Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress, for example); introducing excessive amounts of new product for some factions (Space Marines) while starving others (AdMech, White Scars, Drukhari, etc.); not crediting or promoting their creatives; poorly written, unbalanced, and inadequately play-tested army indexes and unit datasheets for several factions, etc.; how they handled fan-created content (i.e., removing Astartes from KZfaq and putting the creator's planned future content on the back burner, etc.); launching Warhammer+ with a very thin library and slowly dribbling out meager amounts of content, etc. I'm sure I'm missing some, but those are a few of the issues I've seen folks mention about GW.

I've just got back into 40K and I can't believe GW doesn't credit their artists anymore. That is a huuuuge red flag.

Most of the 'hate' at GW is directed at prices, and paying big bucks for rules which are very poorly tested, resulting in books which are obsolete on release. This video is a little tone deaf considering TTT get sent most products for free from GW.