Garden Room Workshop BUILD Episode 1 || Groundworks and Base Frame

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10 ай бұрын

And so the building work begins. In this first episode I start the build and get the ground prepared and the stud work of the floor joined up.
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@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

This build is only possible because of each and every one of you. Every view and every subscribe has led to this. Thank you

@abihill7355 10 ай бұрын

Wow, what a lot of work you've put in, and this is just step one. Well done, I'm super proud of you! What an achievement.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. and no, you can't have it.

@Vazik05 10 ай бұрын

Got my popcorn, I'm ready for this journey! Can't wait to see how you design this for your specific needs. It's like watching a new season of a show though, gotta wait for the next episode lol. Also, never stop showing the mistakes. It makes you human and lets us actually relate to you. These other channels stop doing it when they get big and we (fledgling builders that have no idea what they're doing) feel better knowing you're human too and can connect with you and the content way better.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Half of my content is mistakes. The amount I make I could never hope to hide them. I agree though, you can't always show perfect builds or viewers lose confidence to give it a shot. I will have to try and find some kind of cliff hanger for each episode to make people annoyed to wait a week lol

@Vazik05 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Lol I can live with one a week, although you're a bit mad doing so much work in such a short amount of time! The floor looks amazing to me though, you did awesome. I've a couple years at least before tackling anything remotely close to this. But I can guarantee you, I'll be referencing these videos when I do.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

The links to the channels that I used will be better too, you will see. All together it will make your journey pretty hurdle free I hope. I think that nay the time I am done it will be a 4 ish week build from the start. Lets see.

@Damon_Barber 10 ай бұрын

That’s a great starting point! Happy for you to be able to double your work space! As an American, it’s hard to fathom having to bring material through the house to get into the backyard. Maybe a few shots of this in a future video would help some of us western brothers and sisters understand your struggle. Looking forward to seeing you build your new workshop!🎉🎉

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

That is a good idea. Maybe in the close video.

@dougdavidson175 10 ай бұрын

Awesome start! Thanks for bringing us along on your journey. Take care & stay safe.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Doug. In truth, this journey is only possible because of all of you guys.,

@podman63 10 ай бұрын

Just discovered your channel & subscribe built my own shed workshop hopefully you'll get me better organized great video

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Excellent. Welcome aboard. I hope to keep myself organised in the process. Especially now I will have more space.

@gcarson19 10 ай бұрын

I admire your gumption. Looking forward to seeing it finished. I'm going to be building a small workshop in the future and can hopefully use some of your ideas. Thank you.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Wow, just Wow. I can't even say how much that has meant. New knee brace coming my way lol. But seriously, the fact that you watched the video is enough for me and then to have a nice comment too is over and above. But what you have done is staggering. Thank you

@waynehood1571 10 ай бұрын

I was lazy and bought a 16ft by 10ft looking good thou 👍👍👍👍

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Not lazy. I would have too if I could get it in without the need of a helecopter.

@glennirwin4710 10 ай бұрын

The really hard part is done. Got to give you alot of credit.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Gosh I hope so. Thank you so much.

@Dickie2702 10 ай бұрын

Please dear god for others looking to do similar let me save you a ton of money and effort. Forget all the paving and type 1 ballast. Simply use concrete formers, cardboard tubes, to create pilings on which you can then put down your joists. Dependent on size and frequencyofpilings you can then use 6x2's or 8x2's. I had similar access issues when building my 5x6mtr garden workshop. I didn't even bother with the tubes. Simply dug a hole used four strips of ply 200mmwide screwed together to form a square box section, I made four from scraps. Then dug holes and used the plybox as a former for my concrete piles, reusing them after the concrete was set. Used a water level to ensure the top of the piles were all consistent and built off that. Took me less than a day to dig the holes and then just the cost of the concrete for the pilings after that. This method of building allows you to get your base up off the ground and is the quickest qnd cheapest way to get started. I have loads of other tips that will get your building up quickly and without fuss and unnecessary expense.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Dickie. Thank you. I did consider that method but in the end felt that using the thicker timber on the frame and the raising would mean that I could not build and keep it under the 2500mm max height that I was allowed due to the planning restrictions. The issue I have is that the loan of the roof required minimum of 150mm thick rafters and with the usb on top and the floor that makes 200m. If I go for 6 x 2s I lose around d another 150mm not to mention the amount it would be raised, let's say 100mm at a guess. All this together means that I would have 2050mm head space at the highest point and 1950 at the lowest. This would have knock on effects like the door height being lower than my own height and so I went round and round and had to sacrifice on the base. in order too squeeze as much out of the height as I could.

@Dickie2702 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 I understand but to correct you using 6x2's would have cost you 50mm as you used 4x2's, just saying. You could also have made up that difference easily in the roof, simply use a skin top and bottom and create a torsion box. 3x2 would have been fine with OSB either side, fill the voids with some Celotex and you could have ended up 50mm to the good! Sadly I assume you have already finished the construction and are releasing the videos having completed each stage. I could have given you some more time and money saving ideas for other elements of your build. Anyway I'm sure you will get there and be happy in your new space. Great to see you insulate the floor, do similar with the roof, saves on heating in the winter and stops the place getting overly hot in the summer.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Fair point. And at the time of choosing I did not even know you could do a torsion box room. Wow. The build is not finished but sadly too far along to change anything now. Though, thank you for such informative input. It is appreciated. the benefit of a deeper roof is I plan to go all out and have celotex right under the roof and rock wool below with an air gap. You willl think a lot is overkill but I need to make sure it is as sound proof as possible.

@GeometryBuild 4 ай бұрын

Nice playlist! Thanks for giving me something interesting to watch! 😊

@startmaking1 4 ай бұрын

You are too kind. I do appreciate the support and can't wait to see what you do next. Thank you

@GeometryBuild 4 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Thank you! Working on it! Should be out at the end of the month.

@startmaking1 4 ай бұрын

Briliant.

@paulcooper9187 10 ай бұрын

Thats looks like bloody hard work, considering the logistics of getting stuff to and from the site. Enjoy, and I look forward to watching episode 3. ( for what ever reason watched 2 first 🙃 )

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Paul. It was, but in a wierd way, it made the work that followed feel a lot easier.

@adeh503 10 ай бұрын

😁 bloody hell Mark you won't know yourself when you move into all that space...Good work mate 👌

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Lol. You are absolutely right. Me being me I am already stressed about what tools I can justify and what I can afford and what I should get. Round and round in circles. Fun though.

@robertdknight 4 ай бұрын

New subscriber. I'm very happy for you and for the progress you've made on this video. Getting to this point is a milestone you should feel proud about. God bless

@startmaking1 4 ай бұрын

Looking back, this was the hardest stage of all. Very little satisfaction until the end and even then it served to show how far I needed to go. Fun to look back now.

@williammaxwell1919 10 ай бұрын

Nice start to your build. No pressure, but now waiting for the next video to drop.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Lol. No pressure. To be honest the next one is filmed, I just need to put the impact driver down long enough to edit it. should be fine right?

@paulbrant-hl2xo 10 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, Just watched your phase 1of your re build, I am a "proffesional" ground worker and have been so for the past 45 years, So when I say your should be very proud of your self, only a couple of Minor issues ( nothing ) i am going to watch the rest, take care and DONT over do it,if you can, get help, many regards: Paul B.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Paul. This is like winning the lottery to me. I genuinely have not built anything much bigger than a desk or a set of drawers and to hear from a pro that I am not completely messing up is music to my naive ears. And it is very much appreciated. Thank you

@paulbrant-hl2xo 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 That is a pleasure Mark, I will get round to seing the rest of the build, just one word of warning, look after and out for your self, you are building a proper unit, not a shed, take your time when on the roof.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

This is good advice. And poignant for round about this time.

@ibubezi7685 10 ай бұрын

With you 'from the beginning' - great progress, great build.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much.

@shaun30-3-mg9zs 10 ай бұрын

This is going to be a great build, good luck mate,let's begin ................😀😀👍👍👍

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Shaun. Step 2 video is also on the channel for the wall framing. It's coming along quite well at the moment. Phew.

@shaun30-3-mg9zs 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Have fun 😀😀

@paulparry4734 10 ай бұрын

Just found your page mark really enjoy watching what you do. I feel your pain doing the ground works. I did mine years ago in a very warm summer 8 tonne of soil out & 8 tonne back with 80 slabs laid. It nearly broke me. I also built a bloody good sized shed last year from scratch but then again that part I do for a living. Keep up the good work looking fwd to part 2.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Wow, that is a heck of a lot of soil and rubble and slabs. I did maybe a third of that full weight and my body is breaking down little by little. I have a new found respect for people that do this as a trade. It is really hard graft. Thank you so much for watching and commenting.

@theoriginalmonstermaker 10 ай бұрын

Looks great! And i don't mean to cause concern, as I'm sure it will be fine, but for other people's potential relevance to the info: I'm quite sure the long side of any floor ply should run parallel to floor joists. The way the ply is constructed, it has more flex across the short side. Having multiple joists running the entirety of that direction help resist the tendency of the floor to flex with it. Best of luck with ongoing construction!

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi. I read a little on this and thought that the usb should pan across as many joists as possible. I did the roof the same way, spoiler. Oh well, too late now.

@theoriginalmonstermaker 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 im actually pretty sure that on the roof, your rational was sound, as it's beneficial to tie together as many trusses as possible (at least I'm quite sure that's how it goes when framing; roofing across, flooring with)... I think it's only that the issue of walking on floor may feel "springy" as the ply may flex with weight applied. Common sense suggests, when you pick up a piece of ply and feel it flex in that long direction, that is only due to the extra 4ft of material, but even if you are to cut it into a 4x4 to patch something, you can still feel it preferentially move in that one direction.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

@@theoriginalmonstermaker That is a good point. I may also be able to fix it as I am planning a second floor with a thin layer of foam in between. If I do that layer the opposite way it should help.

@theoriginalmonstermaker 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 oh 100% that would. If the top sheet can't move, the bottom one can't (and I would think that now, with full coverage, it almost wouldn't matter which way the top ones go)... But certainly don't feel obliged to listen to me either lol. Your the one walking on it. If you can tell it won't matter! This is just common practice building houses, and potentially only bc things like tile may be going on top, and those near imperceptible differences can cause complications over time. In a workshop, all that matters is if you're content ; )

@SteveMonk1956 10 ай бұрын

I am really looking forward to this build, you have taken on a mammoth task but watching your previous videos I have every confidence that you will complete this workshop build to a very high standard. I take my hat off to you and I'm a little green with envy at what you are going to have when complete. Well done!

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Steve. Wow, thank you. It has proved to be a mammoth task and I am knackered but it is someone together nicely. Not sure I would do it again if I knew what was in store. lol

@Toots8888 10 ай бұрын

Great vid…lovely on screen presence. Thank you.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Oh, that's really kind, thank you.

@Scottbutcher7 10 ай бұрын

I'm dreaming of building a shed and getting a tool collection going. But I'm way too broke for that 🤣

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

The cist does seem to be snowballing right about now.

@deangriffiths8107 10 ай бұрын

Nice work, I’m a short time away from finishing building my shed and the ground work was definitely back breaking and taking forever. I was really surprised how quick it came together building the floor, walls and roof only to slow down again with things like building and hanging the door. Looking forward to the rest of the build.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Dean. Thank you. I know exactly what you mean. The walls were surprisingly satisfying. Think we are on a very similar journey here. I would not do the ground work again. Not in that heat earthier. Thank you for watching . Hope you are finished and can get stuck into using yours soon.

@jimrosson6702 10 ай бұрын

Wow absolutely amazing hats off to you for doing that all by yourself and having to carry all the stuff through your house can’t wait to see it finished. So happy for you 👏👏👏

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Jim. It's a mission for sure but I need it to keep up with the channel growth. Very happy right now, even if I am really knackered.

@BunnyKins1970 10 ай бұрын

Great job so far! Re. the reflected heat issue - it's also a very good idea to wear sunglasses as well, you can easily get snowblind from that amount of reflected sun. 💚🐇🐴💚

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

You are spot on. I found this issue with OSB and ply too, Very dazzling. As someone who used to live in a ski resort you would think that I would have been ahead of this. Thank you for caring enough to reach out.

@Vazik05 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Listen, as a fellow wearer of glasses, the best thing I've ever bought for myself is the transition lenses for my glasses. They shade nice and dark soon as you go outside and it's very sensitive in the sense that they adjust based on the amount of UV light. So you won't have issues with them being too dark indoors unless you have a ton of direct sunlight coming into the building. It's just easier having it all in one pair instead of multiples, and from my experience, work amazingly.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

I have been contemplating this. Especially as I have just covered ny new sunglasses in glue. long story.

@Vazik05 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 For some reason I'd be ok hearing that story lol. But yeah, I love mine, I switched a couple years ago and you couldn't pay me to go back.

@stewartg2101 10 ай бұрын

Great vid as always. That is a very nice sized footprint for the new workshop. I think it will be a pleasure for you to work and record in there once it is finished. Can't wait for the next instalment and thanks for sharing. Take care and see you soon. Stewart.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Stewart. Very much appreciated. When I stood on the base I knew that it would be large enough, before then I could not picture it. Happy Mark.

@owenclery2552 10 ай бұрын

Looking forward to the next stage! Great video!!

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Owen

@bhartissimo 10 ай бұрын

You've gotten through quite a lot of work in this video! It may be just a little off the ground, but I think your new workshop is coming along very well! Congratulations!

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

It was mission. Thank you. The walls are far more rewarding though. 2 metres more height and so much less lugging.

@davidarnott9740 10 ай бұрын

Great work - looking forward to seeing how the build progressing. How exciting to double the size of the shop! Enjoy and take care! David

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi David. I am a little giddy with what I will do with the space, if the build goes well of course. It's a big step up and one that I really do need. Thank you for coming along for the journey. It is appreciated.

@richardrollins184 10 ай бұрын

great to see you are get a new shop

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Exciting, if not a little tiring.

@garyblake3130 10 ай бұрын

Very good start, looking forward to the next instalment.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Gary. Much appreciated.

@chicobabyification 10 ай бұрын

Been buzzing for the shop build, watched badgers one and was very impressed so excited to see how yours comes along 👍🏻 a final cost would make a great video aswell for us lesser woodworkers dreaming of doing something similar 😏😊

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hey. Me too. I have been excited to show it. this will be the most dull of the videos for woodworkers . I will definitely do a close video with all costs and costs for cheaper options. you would not believe it but I tool initial inspiration from Badgers build. I had to go a little bigger though so decided to throw more timber at it. Belt and braces and all that.

@chicobabyification 10 ай бұрын

Excellent mate 👍🏻 looking forward to the rest of the videos, love a project build series haha keep up the good work mate 👍🏻 ps. I agree badgers looked tight when he got all his stuff in, so making it bigger is definitely a good idea ❤️

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, He did a good job though and brought it in for around £1500 I believe. that is impressive. I think he must be fairly tall as the ceiling is close to his bobble hat. But it is better than a tent by a long shot.

@dak9860 10 ай бұрын

Awesome looking forward to this build..🎉

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. Cant wait to show you all.

@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын

Mark, great job. The noggins, for spacing is a good and often missed idea and, as you did, they can be re-used as screw points, for sheet goods as well as fire stops, in the walls. I also see, you kept your Port-a-Potty handy during your work. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 😁✌🖖 P.S.: For power, if your local regulations allow, you could use "direct burial cable", instead of needing to use plastic conduit.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi. Great spot on the potty lol. It's already in its place on each part of the build. I ended up going for extra noggins on the walls as it gave me some more confidence in the build. Probably not needed but I'm happy. As for power, the electrician I spoke to suggested that with my garden laid our how it was, cable buried would be a pain. Luckily I have a low wall behind a flower bed that I could run a cable along that would be much easier, and I can hide it really well., Not sure I want to do any more digging.

@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1: If you are going to run an exposed power line, it would be best to use plastic conduit, to protect the wiring, from UV and general weather. 😁✌🖖

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant , thank you.

@mattgoodstadt2372 10 ай бұрын

Well done Mark. Rather you than me! But you're young and fit! Looking forward to the next stage.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Matt. Not long to wait. Tomorrow is the wall framing. A little over engineered

@mattgoodstadt2372 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 my new workshop was supposed to be up by now, but it won't be until November! Aaargh!

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

How annoying. to be honest though, I dont see the electrics bing done in mine until at least September which will drive me nuts because I can't start on the interior. Oh well. I hope yours comes together as soon as possible .

@mattgoodstadt2372 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 fingers crossed.

@ianpearse4480 10 ай бұрын

Nice. Looking forward to watching the project.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Ian. Not too long until the next one. Maybe a week.

@YTubeSDD 10 ай бұрын

Awesome, great work.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@jonrost5574 10 ай бұрын

This was brilliant. Thank you so much for sharing this process with us.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Oh wow, thank you, you are more than welcome. Thank you for choosing to watch.

@robertmaggi6979 10 ай бұрын

Mate im so exited for you congrats and well done on step one ill be watching with anticipation through out the build be safe brother and take it slow the pebble has dropped and the ripples have started im so happy for you u deserve it my friend ;)

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Robert. Thank you so much. It certainly feels that way. Let's hope the next steps go as well.

@cqpadovani 10 ай бұрын

Wow really good video!!!

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

that is very kind, Thank you

@ashmano7o7 10 ай бұрын

thank the lord for the impact driver :)

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Amen. It has paid itself back time and again on this one. I will do a screw count at the end. I know at this stage that I could have bought myself a nailer. Oh well.

@_Toffee_Hammer_ 10 ай бұрын

Just recently discovered this channel and I've been making my way through your videos. Really liking what your doing Mark, thanks for providing the educational entertainment. I'm a little sad to see the shed go, but excited to see what happens next. I didn't know whether to post on an old video, but I have a couple of tips you might like. The first one is to do with shed foundation (so is a little late, but all the same). You don't necessarily need the MOT in the bottom. A channel called "Proper DIY" has done a video demonstrating this called "How to Save Time & Money by using a little known Civil Engineering technique in the garden". (I don't think KZfaq will let me post links). That video, and the channel is worth a look. Also, to get your drill level without a drill press you can glue a level bubble on your drill. Just clamp your longest bit into a vice (while level), attach your drill and glue on the bubble. Works really well. Thanks again Mark.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Oh, brilliinat, thank you., I recently started watching that channel. I will take another look. I am also love the bubble level idea, really easy and smart. PS I still read all of the comments on videos so dont be afraid to comment. Thank you for taking a look around the channel, much appreciated.

@K.P.Alexander 10 ай бұрын

Great work so far, and don't sell yourself short. The foundation is the hardest (and most back breaking) part, in my opinion. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the build.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

It was so tiring. I was a little naive. Thank you. The rest is coming soon.

@chrisruss4979 10 ай бұрын

Great video and well done thus far. It must be a very exciting project for you, especially at the stage of finishing the floor and seeing its size. Brings back some memories for me. Can't wait to see the final result.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

standing on the floor for the first time was a real boost for sure.

@peterwilson5212 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant video. I really enjoy watching your videos. I would like to start woodworking and watchinh you gives me the confidence to give it a go. Your videos are the most enjoyable and accessible for a beginner just trying to learn. Thank you

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you and please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions. I'm no expert but there are a fair amount if helpful people around the channel now.

@johntheoldmod 10 ай бұрын

Only discovered your channel a couple of weeks ago but really like your style and honesty. I subbed straight away, I am so pleased to see you making your own workshop rather than buying one and wish I had done the same, I needed a workshop in a hurry when I first moved to my current home over 10 years ago and rushed out the first week and ordered a 20 x 10 workshop from Skinners, and due to age and health issues I am not able to do heavy work so got builders in for the concrete base which cost just over £1000, the workshop was a slither under £4000 and the builder said he could have built me one in block for that. The cladding they use in these bought sheds is unseasoned rubbish and shrunk so badly that it opened up on so many joins that it leaked through the sides and in order to get it weatherproof I ended up cladding the whole thing in metal sheeting, also the supplied roof felt is poor quality and I had it replaced with torch on. I have stopped adding up what all this has cost but I am telling you so that you may learn from my mistakes and to offer some advice if it's not too late, I don't know what you plan to clad in but I recommend some form of vapor barrier on the frame unless you absolutely know that you can guarantee your cladding won't leak because if you end up with rusty tools and other stuff ruined by water ingress later on you will regret it, also don't skimp on roofing, prevention is so much better than cure. I hope your build goes well and from what I have seen on your channel so far I am sure it will. stay safe.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Sorry for the initial reply. Went on to the wrong comment. I can't believe the issues that you had with your workshop. That would break my heart. £5k total is not a cheap purchase. I am shocked that they would not come out and fix it or refund part of the cost. I am glad to read your recommendations as I have gone for a vapour barrier and an expensive roof option. Not an easy one but belt and braces. You have out my mind at ease but I am so sorry that yours was such a nightmare.

@karhu100 10 ай бұрын

Aaargh was so looking forward to part 2 then part 3 blah blah blah part 52 etc… Looks good and on solid ground. Can’t wait for the next instalment…good luck

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Lol. There will be a fair amount of instalments. I promise though that I wont drag it out too long. Maybe 6 parts. Let's see what crops up along the way. \My favourite will be the one about how I can fill it.

@emm_arr 10 ай бұрын

You're busy. Hope this is going well. I'll be worth the effort. I ground out the mortar between slabs in my back yard because it was cracking. Just stuff between slabs - not under them. Several years later and I haven't recemented them. Why? Because removing the mortar means than any seeds that fall down the cracks never grow well enough for me to weed them out. Really. It also seems to allow good drainage to recharge soil water levels for the plants I do want. Please keep us posted on that - because I am so sure I am onto weed-free slabs here that I've told lots of people.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Slowing down now as I wait on a few things to arrive, thankfully. Gives me time to edit and work on a few extra videos in between. Good point with the mortar. Im really hoping that as most most of the slabs are under the shed that no seeds will blow there. I could be wrong and then ...well, that is future marks issue. However I do plan to slab a small row around the building eventually and will try your way. Thank you

@NitoTerrania 10 ай бұрын

Awww yeah, finally started. Hopefully it will be smooth sailing from here. The foundation muat be the least familiar job for a woodworker. And hopefully the audio will be more balanced in the next video (thia one seems to favor my left ear)

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

You read my mind. Just this morning I said that everything that does not involve enough wood are the areas I enjoy the very least. As for the sound, I am experimenting with the Rode wireless and realise now that I edit with just the left ear bud in so have no concept of where the sound is. Also I am using the wrong mic type for voice over. Somewhere along the way it has messed up the sound. Dont know if the sound is wrong all the way across the talking or just the voice over. I suspect maybe just the voice over. Will have to investigate. thank you for watching but more so for bringing ways for me to improve the quality .

@IanintheShed 10 ай бұрын

Great start! Looking forward to seeing how the build progresses. Thinking of a new shed myself, so will most likely be stealing some ideas!

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. I will pop links to the channels I got inspiration from in the next video as there are some that have been vital. and so detailed.

@IanintheShed 10 ай бұрын

@startmaking1 thank you, that would be a great help! 👍

@AnomalousDataPoint 10 ай бұрын

Hi, enjoyed that. Especially as I'm presently also building a garden office aka posh shed. I've got a side gate but access is not ideal, I went for piles and metal rods as shown on the Oakwood garden rooms channel (great tips there) . There was the cost of the metal hardware but it did mean way less excavation waste and then a hand mixable amount of concrete.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

I spent the longest time back and forth on that decision. I think we are probably building fairly similar buildings. I saw oakwood when I was worried that I would maybe need to do a reinforced beam as I had a large span on the roof. Luckily didn't need out as that was beyond me . Good luck with your build, we can compare notes at the end.

@anthonygriffin3147 10 ай бұрын

Belting video rkid I'm all exited to see wots next I've all redy built my shed still needs finishing tho half a job Harry me lol

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Anthony .I am the same. The videos are the thing that make me complete stuff or I probably wouldn't. Thank you for watching as always.

@brucewelty7684 10 ай бұрын

A late thought for the heat. cover the silver with a tarp(canvas thingie)

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

A good idea that I should have done. Still, I have a tan. Well, had, it only lasts 5 mins.

@johntaylor2489 10 ай бұрын

Nicely done. I toyed with building but in the end I bought. I laid my own base, 16x12 so 6xosb. The workshop is, from memory 20mm t and g. £3400 delivered and installed. Yours looks a similar size ish so will be interesting to see what the final price is. Enjoy the process and we'll done for congratulating yourself on each stage done. Nothing is ever as easy as a you tube video makes it look.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, That Is an Interesting comparison. Yes, absolutely the same size. I am budgeting one figure and may have already slightly gone over it. But I plan to do a cost breakdown as well as areas I could have saved. I use my local timber merchant for instance who have been nothing short of brilliant but I am sure they are pricier and somewhere else. I hope tay I dont make it look too easy as it hasn't been so far. Quite painful in fact lol

@michaelwillson6847 10 ай бұрын

M8 bravo it's coming together. U may only be 125 off the ground but that's massive progress already just from the fact of all the moving you've had to do of stuff. A see some scrap builds to use up the excess! Looks great can't wait for next one. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Great minds think alike. I. certainly dont want to carry all of the old shed out.

@michaelwillson6847 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 well sounds like a scrap wood build. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

my favourite kind.

@michaelwillson6847 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 deffo. And we've all got plenty of it. 😅

@alexandermartin2068 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely take care of yourself in the heat I want to see this shop finished not you I've been organizing my shop frequent breaks , water and determination don't worry you're doing just fine

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Alexander. Fortunately the next week after this was a fair amount cooler. Only one day this week was that heat again. I realised after this floor was done that I needed to slow down a touch and take better breaks. Thank you

@peterjohneggleton2011 10 ай бұрын

Great start mate, looking forward to seeing the rest of the build. I have filled out an area ready to build,but gotta wait at least a year for the ground to settle.( I filled with 80 lorry loads of stone). It will give me 9m x 7m ready to concrete next spring. Can I post a picture here? When is the next step video coming out? What about doing a live video showing us How its going? All the best Peter.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Peter. That is quite a plot. It is annoying that we can't have pictures posted here. I would love to see the size as it is twice the size of mine. A live stream would be awesome but until the shed is built I can't get internet in the bottom garden, major pain. PLus I like to be mysterious about it. Let's just say that there have been days I have worried about it working but I am now happy with where I have got to. Next video next Saturday so long as I can edit in time.

@ScarletEyeMoon 10 ай бұрын

Wow fantastic job, are you going to recycle any of the wood of the old shed?

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Great question. I do have a plan for some of it. Think I need a plywood board shed, just one that is the same size as a board, really thin, if that makes sense. May even film it, we will see.

@martinmcmeekin3210 10 ай бұрын

One tool I would highly recommend is a good sunhat. 🌞👨‍🌾

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely. My cap does not cut it long term. Luckily the weather turned for a while

@LpDesignBuid 10 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, I enjoyed your video. I live in Australia. It is interesting to see the different building methods employed. My experience is with concrete slabs or in ground posts. Your beginning has ended with a solid insulated floor that will provide a good start for your coming shed. Well done, looking forward to future videos. Thanks for sharing.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thats a really kind comment, thank you. In truth, I done know what I am doing and saw a few different methods and this was the most attainable, or at least I hope so. Lets see,

@leedennisjohnharris8910 10 ай бұрын

Massive tip for you use buckets 5 full sand 1 full cement quicker make it a bit wetter trust me in that

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Brilliiant. Thank you for the tip. Much appreciated.

@innerechomusicltd6340 5 ай бұрын

Hey, what an inspiring and informative project! Well done, it really looks great and professional. Perhaps I've missed some bits you spoke about applying for planning permission. As I'm about to embark on a similar project in my new house in London, I was under the impression that so long as height is under 4m, I'm good without applying. What's the size of your new workshop and why did it not fall under permitted development? Thanks a lot, Shlomi

@startmaking1 5 ай бұрын

Hi . popped you an email. I hope I have covered all of the questions.

@baddog4347 10 ай бұрын

Great video 👍 Sure looks difficult not having good access 😮

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

It is a real pain. But it also makes for a really secluded feel to the garden, so swing and roundabouts I guess. Crap for building a workshop though.

@timothyoutman7427 10 ай бұрын

Looking great. No need to hit the gym for the rest of the year 😆

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

You are so close to the truth. In the last 3 weeks I have lost almost a full stone and I have had to eat twice the calories as usual. once I am done, I will need to reign the diet back in or I could be in trouble.

@JohnlynHD 10 ай бұрын

Great job. I have one to build. It to has access difficulties. I’m going to use ground screws. Less work for an oap.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Less work= Happy . I know I over did my base hugely. Lack of confidence is the most to blame.

@YesiPleb 10 ай бұрын

Great video. I was looking at making a shed in my back garden at our new place (garden is massive) and instead of building a base, was thinking of doing it like decking where it's on posts buried in the ground. Sealing the wood under the shed properly to make sure it lasts as long as possible as I know decking doesn't seem to last that long.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

That sounds like a good idea. Not that I am any kind of expert here. But if you have the space and the time to build, then why not.

@YesiPleb 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 I've been trying to research this for a shed and can't seem to find much information out there. Usually that's for a reason although I have found one or two videos. I've also been researching fencing as it uses a very similar method - posts placed into the ground and sealing the bottom of the posts properly (ie. bitumen) and providing drainage in the holes (stones at the bottom under the posts) seems to be the way forward. I'm sure the air gap under the shed would provide the ventilation needed to dry it all out and keep the bottom of the shed dry.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

I have to say that I looked into a similar method and was worried that the shed above ground would outlive the posts under it. I was then tempted to try concrete pillars under the soil with a frame of timber sitting on top to save dropping more cement than needed. This method gave me more confidence than timber under the soil but as I always say, Im definitely not an expert.

@daihaad 10 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, awesome channel mate love your honesty 👍🏻 I do have to ask though, why did you need planning permission? I didn’t think it was needed for garden ‘sheds’ under 2.5m in height? Hope your knee gets better soon & take care of yourself mate 👍🏻

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi. And thank you very much. You are right, in a normal location the 2.5m limit does not require planning, as far as I know. But I, sadly live in a listed , old building and so, annoyingly I had to apply. In truth I was tempted to not bother but as it was granted I can look back and feel happy I did. The knee is just not used to the extra weight of carrying and kneeling etc. Hopefully going forwards I can take it a little easier. The biggest issue I had was bags of everything getting left on the pavement outside to be brought through so I could not stop until each batch was done. That bit is done thank fully. Kind of you to comment like that though. Thank you

@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1: I watched intently but gave no thought, to your knees (I'm just not like that). But, now I think about, you really should get yourself some, good, worker's knee pads. You will be glad you did. There are many available. Try on each one, kneel down, and make sure it is right, for you. Be careful, some will slip during use. You don't want to end up with three pair and use only one (as I did). 😁✌🖖

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

I know. Kicking myself . Especially as I knelt in partially cured glue yesterday and now have very little hair on my right leg. Tough day.

@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1: Ouch! 😰🤬 😁✌🖖

@burnstockwoodworking 10 ай бұрын

Beautiful backyard! Looking forward to watching this build and I'll be building alongside you...except I'm contracting it out so mine won't be as entertaining or informative

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you bud. Hang on, am I reading this right, we are both upscaling simultaneously. That is awesome.

@Birkguitars 10 ай бұрын

I am watching this in a break from building my wife's shed. Giving myself a pat on the back for getting the ground level. Small wins. Once the shed is up I can start moving the gardening stuff out of what will be my workshop. Big win on the horizon. One point I couldn't quite pick up from the video is the size of the new space as I wasn't sure what size the OSB boards are. How big is it in comparison with the old one?

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

You should give yourself a good old pat on the back. It is not easy and really useful moving forwards,. Ooo you have a real carrot dangling . That will help when you are building the rest. Honestly I think that the ground work is one of the hardest parts. Well done.

@jamesmcc5147 10 ай бұрын

Well done, Mark. That's a lot of hard work for one person, especially in the recent hot weather. Looks good so far. I know from personal experience that laying concrete flags is not easy at all. I take it the new workshop will have an electrical supply, on it's own circuit?

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you James. I dont want to see another slab as long as I ... Oh hang on, I need to lay some more around the workshop, crap. Yes it will have its own circuit, all going well. I intend to try and follow a natural progression, as if I was a woodworker just upscaling as and when. he can afford it and justify it.

@ianmurray3820 9 ай бұрын

This is ‘ de-Ja-vu ‘ for me.! I stood myne on pads and legs to give enough hieght for my terrier to mooch around underneath and so avoid anything taking up residence under there.!!. I also did myne in the summer and ended up using factor 50 to combat the intense sunlight reflected up from the king span..🥵🥵🥵

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the kings span. That was a terrible day. I was really not well at the end of that. Banging headache.

@nyshockartist 10 ай бұрын

Honestly dying to know now if you have plans to repurpose any of the wood salvaged from the old shed for future projects? Loving your channel :D Keep up the inspiring work

@Vazik05 10 ай бұрын

Having watched all his videos, I can almost guarantee he'll be reusing it, he doesn't throw away useful things. Assuming it's not all rotted out, I know that was an issue he was having with the roof in particular. I can't wait to see what he does next.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

You are definitely in tune with my thinking. I dont want to carry it all out, some is unusable but I do have a couple of plans for a fair amount of it. I'll let you know.

@luctoulouse 10 ай бұрын

Looks great. May I ask you why you don't elevate your base a bit more to let air going through? Cheers from Canada.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi. You know what, I think I would put it down to fear and lack of experience. In truth at the time I dint realise just how rigid the base would be and was scared rot raise it up. I was worried that it would flex and not be level. Silly really. I went over and over the options and this is where I ended up. It is definitely not perfect and I hope that the rubber pads and the gaps between the slabs (most as big as an inch) will allow the air to flow under the base. Truth, I dont know. Hope it works, dont fancy having to lift a building to increase the height. Worst case, I guess I could make holed through the timbers, though I dont know if that is smart lol

@luctoulouse 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 For a shed or garage, if the floor is made of wood, you need a gap from the ground to let air flown. In Canada for sure, with the snow. It is not too late to do it, some option are available like concrete pad. ANy way, I love your project, I am sure I will learn as well. Cheers.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

luckily snow is not a huge issue but I will see if there is anything needed once I have finished as I am too far along now to redo the base. The weight may not push it into the ground all the way, I will see.

@StrawbyteWorkshop 10 ай бұрын

I'm curious to understand what aspects of this workshop build fell outside permitted development rules for a garden building? Is it height, area? Great video by the way.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi ,. And thank you. Nothing in any other garden. I live in a listed building and that was/is the issue with planning.

@StrawbyteWorkshop 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 I understand I live literally 50yds outside a section 5 notice area where permitted development rules have been withdrawn. My summerhouse and send went up fine, my neighbour had hell getting permission granted. I'm looking forward to seeing the next vid.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

What a pain. I feel their pain. Tomorrow is the wall build video. Hope yiu enjoy.

@StrawbyteWorkshop 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 I’ll look forward to that.

@nikosgeorgakis6759 4 ай бұрын

excellent! What are the dimmensions of the workshop?

@startmaking1 4 ай бұрын

Thank you Nikos. Approx 4.8m by 3.6m external

@TheKidFromYTown 10 ай бұрын

The work is coming along nicely. You're doing an awesome job.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, that's really kind. hope it continues. the work that is,

@billffromnh 10 ай бұрын

The first video is as good as your second. Your work doesn't look like a novice carpenter's. I grew up in a house my dad built. He started by first cutting the trees down & hauling them out of the woods with his horse team. Then he had a friend with a mill saw them into lumber. The house was never perfect, but 75+ years later, it's still standing.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Wow. Thank you Bill. I bet that was inspiring watching your dad do all of that work. So impressive.

@samrix5793 10 ай бұрын

Hi, I like your channel and seen quite a few videos now, how come you need planning for the shed?

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. Planning was needed because our house is listed. Need it for any changes within the boundary

@philkirkham1000 8 ай бұрын

Hi, love the channel. Especially as i have probably half the size to work in as your original shed! Can i ask, what was the reason you needed planning permission? Maybe a stupid question but thought if the shed os not more than 50% of outside space you dont need it. Thats what i thought/HOPING!

@startmaking1 8 ай бұрын

Hi Phil. NOt a stupid question at all. I needed planning as our house is listed and so any changes in the garden also need planning. It's a pain but done now. And thank you for the compliment.

@philkirkham1000 8 ай бұрын

Thank you sir and long may it continue.

@oddjobbill 10 ай бұрын

. morning Mark im on my wood working mistake journey lol😂 How thick was the insolation compared to the wood. Thanks bill

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Bill. for the floor, the insulation was 50mm in a depth of 95mm. for the walls I plan to do around 75mm Rockwool on a depth of 95mm and the roof will be 150mm depth with 50mm foil lined insulation on the highest point, then an air gap, then 75mm Rockwool. I hope that this makes sense. I will show it all. PS dont fear mistakes, we all make them and they are the best way to learn in my opinion

@MrReece2 9 ай бұрын

The 2x4 for the sheds base so the floor are they original treated from the timber merchant or not. ??

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

They are treated yes.

@mozaman9005 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic work hope by the end of this I get enough confidence to think about starting mine 😀 Quick question noticed you didn't use any weed matting? Something not required?

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

That is a good question. Im no expert here but my theory is that with the patio slabs, the mortar under them and the rubble, there should not be too much chance of weeds. I think if I laid the joists on soil I would have used one. Good luck when you are ready to go.

@mozaman9005 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 thanks for the reply much appreciated! Very much looking forward to the rest!!

@paulbrant-hl2xo 10 ай бұрын

when do you think you will be doing your phase 2 on your unit

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

The next video is out Saturday. then I hope to keep up the weekly updates. The interior may miss the weekly bit but by then I hope to have another video instead, let's see.

@themeat5053 10 ай бұрын

Mark, great to see your progress. Hey, just a quick question: did you drop the concrete for the first slab straight onto soil? If so, won't it break up during seasonal changes. One wise ass comment. If you had the cement mixer, why didn't you just put down stone dust, then mix the requisite amount of concrete, use some reinforcement (e.g. re-bar) a bit of mortar and lay the paver? BTW, how long did you let the pavers set before you started laying lumber and saw horses on top of it? Did you grout between the pavers (stone, dust, or mortar?) It's very easy for me to make these observations from here not knowing the whole story. My back hurts watching you lay those stones. It's good to be young. The wider rim joist is wise. I love how you're doing so far. Thanks for wearing the jersey.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hey. It looks like soil but it was hard core very compacted from years of walking over it since the old shed was build however many years ago. the soil was just. a very fine sprinkling. Should be fine. As for the mixer bit, I had no idea that was even a possibility really. Figured to produce my own slab from that would be too hard and would go off before I could get it finished. Probably wrong though. The pavers were set for around 2 weeks before laying timber frame down. I did rush the ones under the shed once I relaid them. They had around 3 days to set but nothing like the thickness of mortar underneath as they were already pretty well set, just needed levelling. I thought about grouting but in truth, I was worried it would be more likely to pool if I made an error and there was a slope into the centre. I ended up making fairly large gaps between the slabs but ensuring the mortar met lower down between them. Figured it would help with air flow under the shed. I was making it up as I went along though in truth. My back still hurts. The ones under the existing shed were 10mm thicker and some were a third longer. That hurt. I certainly dont feel young right about now but it will be worth it. The rim joists were nearly not included. I just happened to stumble on another channel in a moment of desperation and the penny dropped that I didn't have enough support. I had already ordered rafters that were way too thin for the span of the roof so bullets were dodged for sure. I love that red shirt , doing know why.

@themeat5053 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 First off, the red shirt should be your gimmick. We ruggers will stick together. You're doing a great job. Obviously, in a 15 minute video, it looks like everything is happening all at once. I'm glad you're brighter than most and allow things to come together. You are going to be absolutely happy with your new shed and to realize you did it yourself. I remember when, years ago, my wife wanted a chicken coop. It's now like a chicken condominium as we have expanded it and enlarged it beyond our original plans. I did every lick of it myself, learned things (both to do and not to do) and was astounded at how well I did for the first thing I'd built alone. The years have passed quickly and I can no longer build structures by myself, so I stick to what I can do. I enjoy watching you do so well. Keep it up.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

IT really is my gimmick isn't it. That and cheque shirts in the winter, though that really is a woodworkers staple. Hard to really show anything in 15 mins. But then it is harder to get people to watch longer, me included. I love the sound of the condominium. I can just imagine it growing over time. If I didn't have to worry about planning and space I can guarantee this project would do the same over time. I have to say, age aside, I believe this is the one and only rime I do anything this big. Unless I come into a windfall and move to a ranch somewhere.

@themeat5053 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 I hope you have a windfall; but a stay as small as you can for as long as you can. About a dozen years ago we moved onto 16 acres; though it's nice to have the room, it is tough to keep up with the maintenance and sheer volume of work that size piece of property demands.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Now you say that I agree. That is a lot of acres. I would be happy with 2, so a ranch would be a little crowded in that space lol.

@Kreacher1974 Ай бұрын

I want to build a shop in my back yard, what is a good size to have? Thinking about building work bench along the wall instead of in the middle of the floor to conserve space

@startmaking1 Ай бұрын

To be honest that is a tricky one. I had to stick within certain sizes for planning to be accepted. so mine is 4.8m by 3.6m. or 16 ft by 12 ft. I also chose this so I could make the base from 6 OSB sheets. But if you have absolute freedom of choice I would suggest mapping out the floor space and deciding what machines or benches you want and what is vital for now and what is vital for when you grow. That should give you a good idea. For instance mine is a little too big for the tools I have but once I get a band saw and some decent dust collection. maybe another bench along one wall, it will be pretty full. Plus I have another smaller shed to store wood in.

@Kreacher1974 Ай бұрын

@startmaking1 I would love to just build something to cover my entire back yard so I can have a work shed and a storage shed for the stuff I have in a storage unit. I will have to go back there and map out a section of about 12ft by 16ft. Thanks for the info. Keep the wonderful videos and great wisdom coming.

@a9ball1 10 ай бұрын

What are the final dimensions for the shop when you are done?

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

well...There are planned dimensions and then real ones. I planned to build 16ft by 12 ft. But with my skills there is a certain margin for error let's say.

@pietjepuk9575 10 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, i don't know if you are planning to put electrics in you're new shop? Better thinking forward were to dig the trench for the cable 😉😉👍👍

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

That I a good point. I am definitely running electrics but plan to do it above ground with an armoured cable to save more digging. Can hide it really easily fortunately.

@gordonlumer2879 10 ай бұрын

Well done but can’t understand why you would lay a patio under a shed, I just lay geo tech fabric and dense concrete pads then DPC on pads only no need to line whole floor joists provided you keep 150 mm above ground and keep ventilated space. This is the standard for houses let alone sheds.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. In truth, I have no experience or clue as to what is best once you can't lay a concrete pad. For a long time I wanted to drop cylinders of concrete down underground and build the frame on top but was nervous. Laying the patio was a nightmare but I felt like I knew I could achieve it. People mention about air flow and water etc but I think there is enough gap with the pads and the spaces between the slabs, time will tell. As far as your method, of course I would say, an expert would always know best but my worry is that if I gave away 150mm to gap under the shed my ceiling height which is now approx 2200mm at its highest and 2100mm lowest would suddenly get really tight for lights etc. And the other issue which is already a problem is that the door would be impossible to get in without stooping, though I think some of that is due to the 100mm lintel restricting the height. Basically I know from the start that this would not be the perfect build, price and choices would not be optimised but I had to give it a go. Let me know what you think of the next stages as I am genuinely interested in knowledgeable opinions.

@gordonlumer2879 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 I don’t mean to criticise, sorry, I’m just saying you can achieve the same result, no concrete just blocks laid on sand and cement to appropriate level as you have with the slabs but you only need them where support is required for the joists (depends on size and spacing there are tables for this) . A lot less work for you. I love your woodwork videos, I’ve learnt a lot, keep up the great work, 👍🤓

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Gordon. I promise I did not read it as a criticism. I have no idea what I am doing, past what I have watched on KZfaq and we all know that is not a great place to learn lol. If I am completely honest, I originally thought about slabs under the joists at certain places but I didn't trust that the 4 by 2s would be rigid enough. I am sure they would have done but I was scared. So this is my solution, loads more work and money. Lets hips the framing is done better.

@elioth.g.w2976 10 ай бұрын

Looks good ( all 125mm of it ). Why did you need planning ? (Height ?)

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. Listed building. Annoying but I understand

@elioth.g.w2976 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Ouch

@WhiteDieselShed 6 ай бұрын

Why did you need planning permission? Over 2.5 metres tall? I want to put a wooden leanto style conservatory which would be under 2.5 metres tall above the back door but the garden drops on the left hand side a good 4 to 6 inches. Do I need to measure the 2.5 metres from the lowest point or will I be able to use the height from the doorway? It will look rather odd sloping down that amount, I think the neighbours will say I built it wrong and will take the P every time they see me. Thanks.

@startmaking1 6 ай бұрын

No, it is 2,5 tall. I live in a really old, listed building. as for your build. I wish I knew. I would contact your local council and ask them. Mine were really helpful.

@MegaMicraman 7 ай бұрын

What was the cost of the build? Just thinking if it's easier to buy one and assemble it.

@startmaking1 7 ай бұрын

Good questions. the interior video is out this week. Marking the end of the building process. In a month or so I will put together the costs and make a video for that.

@paulgreen9298 10 ай бұрын

hi, what was the thickness of the roofing ply you used ? also did you use a vapour barrier b4 you put in yr insulation or after or both ? Thanks Paul

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Paul. Thank you for your comment. The Osb sheets on the base are 18mm thick. No membrane used either side of it. I taped the insulation. As for the roof, I plan to cover with a single sheet of rubber. From what I can tell this js enough as the glue acts as a barrier too. The osb sheets under it is 12mm. I will out foil lined jnsulation under the osb, between the rafters to act as a vapour barrier. Not certain if this is the best way but it's what I have.

@paulgreen9298 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Hi my bad I meant yr old shed ?

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

@paulgreen9298 ah. No worries. It was just 5mm ply with taped foil insulation between it and the roof. Worked a treat but only had a year so not sure about damp etc long term

@paulgreen9298 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 yes I am unsure - a life long wood worker said I should be use 12 mm to stop vapour getting through and will add to the constructional strength - but I am just not sure I have a shop got shed 8 x 12 and worry the weight will be too much - also as you are limited in some tools how did you make yr French cleats dis you do a video ? thanks Paul

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Paul. There are 2 videos. I made the cleat with a circular saw. Not perfect but if you take your time and use an edge guide it works. I tried to keep the roof weight down on the shed as the roof was already bowing. I dont think that 12mm ply is any more effective than 5 mm at getting vapour kept out. I would just use foil lined polystyrene insulation and foil tape all joints and around each piece. That will keep the vapor out.

@rcrogers6 7 ай бұрын

Are British 2x4s 2"x4" or like the US 1.5"x3.5"?

@Teegray1124 2 ай бұрын

is this a 12x16 shed?

@startmaking1 2 ай бұрын

Yes.

@riccardo-964 9 ай бұрын

Your wife let you use most of the backyard for a shed? I need more info on how to do this.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

lol, we are lucky to have this as the second part of the garden, The top bit is not much bigger but allows me some freedom on the lower part.

@user-ib4uo8mr7q 10 ай бұрын

Are you going to put in an electric supply ?

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Yes, it will be a little while as the electrician is really busy but I plan to have a fair amount of power points installed and lighting.

@Ceen328 10 ай бұрын

If you think thik it is to hot to work outside, always remember, this is the cooles summer for the rest of your life. 🙃

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

I feel like last summer was hotter than this one. Hard to know what next one will be.

@theoriginalmonstermaker 10 ай бұрын

Actually not true, as the El Nino/ la Nino trend reversed, were now again on an upwards (AND upwards : /) trend... right about when you were working on this (though not necessarily in your area, but sometime last week) the global temperature average was the highest recorded in all history. For the next couple years said cycle will continue to add to that. Hopefully we get at least a brief respite in the couple yrs to follow... and after that? Who knows. Onwards and upwards I assume.

@paulbrant-hl2xo 10 ай бұрын

P.S. What have you done to your knee.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Good spot. Well, it seems my body did not like carrying all that weight down 10 ish steps and about half way through the slabs I was starting to get a fair amount of pain. Not seen a Dr but this brace helps. Figure the excitement of finishing should heal all wounds. Thats how it works right?

@paulbrant-hl2xo 10 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 not realy Mark, that's why you can get repertitional pain, not good, it stay's for bit then when you think ithas gone it come's back with a vengence, take it EASY.

@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын

Yup. Rest is coming. Winter I have to sit at a desk 6 days a week so forced rest is on its way for better or worse.