I think you may have made a small mistake when building your wall. My French cleat wall is done in the old style, but has zero wobble. The only time I had wobble was when I accidentally mixed up the boards I was utilizing on the backer wall with the boards I was using on my boxes for. My first go around, and it ended up not being a perfect match between the two angles. This taught me how important it is to keep you angles the exact same throughout to keep everything rock solid like this system was intended to be used. If you have a perfect 45 degree angle, you should have a solid joint no matter which side you use. But if you are off by half a degree or more, you must make sure to keep the boards that were cut at let's say 45.5 degrees all on the wall, and the boards at 44.5 degrees on the hanging boxes. Then everything will match up perfect as long as every cut was done at the same cut angle. This angle could actually be anything as long as everything is consistent throughout. But keeping it at a perfect 45 is easier to remember down the road as a 44.5 degree angle can be hard to recreate exactly. I think your problem with wobble is because you got different angles mixed up. Two 44.5 degree boards will never hold tight and will always wobble. Take your time when cutting them, plan accordingly, and your French cleat system should be rock solid without having to go through the hassle of the extra cut out pieces. You'll end up with a much stronger joint than those fasteners will give you as there is zero play, and no where for the wood to bend or give.

The problem you had with the screws in the chisel holder wasn't strictly due to the impact driver (although that didn't help. You probably should have used flat head screws, not bugle head

The chisel holder revision is a positively elegant solution! The "sneak peek" You did at the beginning almost made me jump ahead to that section. It was the equivalent of looking for the thumbnail shot on porn! Lol Brilliant video! Cheers.

just wondering if you know what “exponentially” means?

Great video, Mark. Really loved the chisel holder and the slimline saw holder was cool, too. I'm currently away in Orkney, so had to find signal to watch this one but well worth the wait. The trouble and joy of French cleats is that the construction of one always leads to ideas for future improvements, meaning you get caught in a continuous improvement loop and don't build anything else 😂. One day I'm going to stop building tool aids and actually make something that others might use... But not just yet. Keep making.

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The cleat taper and dowel. Bloody hell. That’s brilliant… 🪄🧙‍♂️

You're the first person online I've seen who has a French cleat on the side of their workbench! I've always felt like something like that is such a powerful feature of a French cleat system that I have hardly seen before, to be able to have the tools you need just for the task at hand so easily nearby

Great job Mark! That chisel holder is definitely something to be proud of!

Another very useful video Mark. I'm not a French cleat user, but your hinged chisel holder is ingenious. I might keep it French cleated to my bench so that all chisels, marking instruments, sanding sticks, etc. were right at hand when needed. I like how you maximize the use of your wall space with the French cleats & your other owner-made accessories. Do you plan to have a lumber storage system using French cleats in the future? If you so choose, you could probably author a book titled, "How to Organize Your Workshop with French Cleats." I don't recall seeing your workbench video, but I'll find it to view.

You don't need the full length of the "ramp" for the "key" to run on. So you could easily have the ramps be 2/3rd to half the length and then go vertical on the rear side of the next vertical. So then you are only really stuck by the width of your handles.

Well Mark, you know how much I enjoy your videos, but with all this making of cleat walls tool storage, magnets right left and centre, don't know how you find time to make anything!! Haha, great video as always, keep 'em coming and stay lucky, cheers

Hey, just watched a few of your videos! Im curious can you put a French cleat wall on a basic shed made with feather edge timber! Im very new to woodworking but the clutter in my shed is driving me nuts! 😂

This is my favourite woodworking channel. I'll never use half of the stuff in your videos but I do enjoy watching and when I come up with a problem I will remember the cleats and magnets and maybe adapt. Thank you for sharing.

For your chisels box you should have made it clear on the other side too so you can see which to pick out when open

I honestly love how excited you get with these little upgrades and ideas, it's so refreshing where a lot of people seem very negative if things arent absolute perfection 👍🏻 keep up the good work mate. Still not got round to making nice frames for the baby scans you did me ... having a baby really takes all the woodworking time away 🤣🤣

Brilliant mate 👍

you need to create a play list called "sticking with Magnet's" and put all your videos that have magnet tip's in there too. :) Great work

Love the Bluey cameo! And your style. Thank you.

These are excellent ideas, thanks.

Now that is cool. I love the new chisel rack and repurposed old one too. Very clever Mark! I am still not a fan of magnets for the reason we discussed earlier, but apart from that - awesome! If I may I would love to steal a few of your ideas. I put cut down bolts into the ends of my dowels on the saw till to increase the grip, but I love the rubber matting idea better. Back to the shop to redo them again. LOL.

All are a great use of space. The chisel one ingenious

Great video

Hi Mark, Brilliant ideas and the best thing is your ideas are never ending and every week I watch there is some new or some thing that's modified and that's what I like this why I watch and keep watching. This French cleat system just works wonders and the way you got yours is so efficient. The Saw and chisel storage is a great idea and looks so simple to make. As always a great video, Take care👍

Great video mark, who doesn’t love a french cleat wall ❤️, where do you get magnets strips from?

Grab a label maker and add labels. Labels save me a lot of time on putting things back where they belong :)

We might have to start calling you "Magnet Man" lol. The laser cut speed squares you very kindly sent to me are now stained red and get used very often as I didn't previously have a speed square. I used to use my cheap set square a lot but not so often now as the speed squares are so easy to keep to hand. To that end I plan to make a holder for them on my bench. 🙂

Hi, Mark. A bunch of really great ideas. 👍👍👍 As I was watching you insert magnets into the wood, I remembered, sometimes the CA glue doesn't want to hold the magnets, long term (BTDT) and I have an idea. Now, to be fair, I just thought of this and have never done it. Drill your inset for the magnet, then drill, in the center, for a flat head screw, for the magnet to grip, holding itself in the hole (still use CA). Now there are two things holding the magnet in the hole. The likelihood of it coming out is greatly reduced. Notes: The larger the screw head, the better but this is also dependent on the thickness of the material, because you need a few threads, below the screw head, to hold in the wood. OH, P.S.: The extra screw length gets cut off at the back of the material. 😁✌🖖

Hi! Thank you for your video. It is great. But… …if you are using magnets anyway so extensively, why not using them on your saws, too? They give you a much smaller footprint. And if you want to stick to a friction based grip for the saws, try using your dowel based mechanism upside down with two levers instead of the dowel/ramp solution. Think of your hands when praying. Put some rubber mat where your finger tips are and an axis each where your wrists are. To connect the levers with the axis you can use eyebolts to make it an easy build. You can use two layers/rows of this mechanism above each other with an offset to make the footprint even smaller (so one saw gets stored in the lower rack and the next one in the upper rack and the next one again in the lower rack and so one - if you get my picture). Still I‘d prefere the magnet solution, though… If you use magnets to hold/store a tool, rather use the rubber mat to cover the magnet instead of the felt. Usually the tools are made of harder metal than the magnets so they would rather scratch the magnet than vice-versa. But if you still feel the urge to protect the tools from the magnets then keep in mind that the strength of the magnet decreases exponentially (!) with the distance. Also magnets are strongest when the metal objects are pulled away from them. They are much weaker when you slide the objects to the side (So: Provided that the contact surface is the same, it would be much harder for you to pull down the metallic object from a magnet above than from a magnet to its side. But the saw being so thin makes it much more effective to hold it with a magnet to its side that to its top.) So rather use the stickiness of the rubber mat than the smoothness of the felt to compensate for the los of magnetic force due to the further distance that you need to have some space/rubber/felt between magnet and the tool. Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭

Why not turn the saws vertical so you use the space above the cleat wall?

I am sure you said this prev but I am new. Like your assemble shop bench doesn’t feel finished. Gaps at corners. Maybe for a reason. Idk. But I still like it as many will even if they don’t know why.

OMG!! 43k Subscribers??? You are still amazing me! Sorry you haven’t heard from me lately. I lost my oldest daughter (39 yrs old) last June. She was my best friend, travel buddy and the family planner/party organizer. The loss absolutely knocked all the wind out of me. Grief kicked me down hard. Sorry for over sharing, I just want you to know that I’m still watching and you are still my favorite KZfaq woodworker/entrepreneur (and videographer!) I’ve missed being involved but clearly you are on the fast track! Thanks, Mark! Keep up your great sense of humor and the amazing work!

Thanks!

Thanks!

So many clever ideas, Mark. I’m pleased I’ve found you. Keep up the good work 🌞

Are you not h&ll of clever? Yes, you are.

The more things you have on the wall, the more dust is collected.

You, Sir, are a GENIUS! I absolutely love these ideas!

Mark, that chisel holder is too cool. Recently, I saw a "saw caddy," being sold commercially. I'm thinking of tackling that project. I like yours too, now, I'm in a conundrum. Another brilliant video. One request, since we've missed it so far this year; we need the rugby jersey for old times sake. A small point, you're using a lot of CA glue, just be careful that you rely on it too much because over time CA becomes brittle and is not really very good for structural parts. In conjunction with wood glue you're golden (noted that you did that in these projects, just a quick reminder). Be careful, you're going to become too efficient. Cheers!

Great video and some interesting ideas that could be built upon. Many thanks and keep them coming.

That looks great, I wonder if I could make one for my lathe chisels?

I do like your double hinged chisel holder Mark. I may have to "borrow" your idea for my forstner bit holder I was about to build🤔

I think you'll find your cleat locking blocks working out and falling on the floor over time. Every time you take a tool out the clear will move a bit and wiggle them out.

Time for you to see the final word in tool walls. Ed Stiles here on KZfaq. Two videos. Ten years old now. It will blow your mind.

Excellent video as always. Really innovative storage ideas. Keep up the good work.

Hi mark love the chisel holder going to have a go of making one this afternoon ❤

This is pretty damn clever. I'm just finished ply lining my walls and throwing up some Ivar cabinets from IKEA up high, french cleats are next and I really like this fold out idea. Thanks Mark!

Too good of an idea to pass! I wouldn't rush to admit chisels would dull from contact with wood bottom though. It's the only job these are supposed to be good for 😂

M8 your to clever for your own good. They look amazing. Still love the laser cut boxes may need buy few them off you but the 3 hinge chisel holder wow 🤯🤯 everything is looking amazing and table saw seems be getting good work out. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

I'd like to make a suggestion cover your dowels with a few.o rings. I do this to my 3D printed versions. Make them. very grippy. I'm lucky I have a selection box. of O rings. but they don't cost a lot. And always useful to have.