Garden Room Workshop BUILD Episode 2 || Framing the WALLS
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10 ай бұрынIn this weeks video I go about framing the walls. The Front and back were not too complicated but the slanting, rake walls were a little trickier
Luckily I stumbled upon a few channels that guided me well. Links below.
This was definitely not a one person job but needs must and in the end.....well, you have to watch
For a comprehensive list of all my tools - www.start-making.com/tools
Chanels that helped me to figure out the framing.
Ali Dymock (Apologies to him for mispronouncing his surname) - / @alidymock
Badger's Workshop - / @badgerworkshop
A few links to the tools you have seen
Ansell Hyflex Gloves UK LINK - amzn.to/480T0co
US Link - amzn.to/47RLCzR
Speed Square 7" - UK LINK - amzn.to/42ic3NT
US LINK - amzn.to/3UkcHIK
Chalk line - UK LINK - amzn.to/46KUgAJ
US LINK - amzn.to/3XPro6g
Makita Circular Saw - UK LINK - amzn.to/3HD6UX6
US LINK - amzn.to/3vOYhWN
Makita impact Driver - UK link - amzn.to/3OlrNdr
US link - amzn.to/3SBietp
Workpro one handed quick clamps - UK LINK - amzn.to/3UizkNM
(IRWIN) - US LINK - amzn.to/3Hzqh3q
PICA PENCIL - UK LINK - amzn.to/42wLKnv
US LINK - amzn.to/3vQXTaz
PICA REFILLS - UK LINK - amzn.to/3S8pj2Q
PICA BUNDLE - US LINK - amzn.to/42dlPAZ
100mm Screws - UK LINK - amzn.to/3XJzgGk
If you cant find what you are looking for check out the website
www.start-making.com/tools
All UK links are for products that I have used. US links are the closest I can find. They are recommendations made from my experience, your may differ.
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@paulespinoza974 10 ай бұрын
Yes, approach, approach, approach.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant.
@baddog4347 10 ай бұрын
Another great video 👍
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. Much appreciated.
@Ceen328 10 ай бұрын
Q: How sturdy to you want it to be? A: Yes!
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Sturdy enough I guess.
@K.P.Alexander 10 ай бұрын
Looking good so far! Can't wait for next week's video. Also, might be too late to recommend this, but a good pair of kneepads can be the difference between being able to jog, or limping the next day.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Oh, you are so right. Where were you when I started a month ago lol. Even my wife said I was nuts for not having any. Turns out you were all right. Im a mug.
@K.P.Alexander 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 Hah, no worries. I'm pretty sure that kneepads are a lesson we all learn the hard way.
@itaykomemy 10 ай бұрын
Amazing work dude
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
@jimadams6159 10 ай бұрын
Great new series, it is good to see someone who is not an expert building a workshop, also love your honest and clear approach. Looking forward to the next one. 👍
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Definitely not an expert. But I try hard lol. Thank you for watching, Lets hope it keep running smoothly.
@dak9860 10 ай бұрын
Morena Mark.. Awesome watching looks like your having fun..looking forward to the next video..🎉
@dak9860 10 ай бұрын
Your going to have a beautiful workshop do you have a max size before you have to apply for building consents..here it’s 30 square meters before you have to get consent.. Looking forward to more content 😊
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
I dont think so, I think that within permitted development you can be 50% of you garden, something like that. Either way, I had to apply for planning on the basis that I am in a listed building. Painful but necessary.
@dak9860 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 I know how that is as well my home is listed so I can’t do nothing why container workshop. Can’t put a building on site.. Container can be moved off.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
great work around.
@davidarnott9740 10 ай бұрын
I am now sure what an 'expert' is? Your work is so good! Not only are you learning from others and passing it on in an easy to too follow way you are demonstrating ideas of your own. I am So looking forward to the next stage.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you David. I guess I dont know either. It's all in the end result I suppose.
@tacticalskiffs8134 3 ай бұрын
You should probably listen to him, because I can see lots of mistakes...
@markwalczak3374 10 ай бұрын
Loving the new series, workshop is going to be a hell of a upgrade for you from what you had mate 👍
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Mark. You really did set your alarm from the look of it.
@emm_arr 10 ай бұрын
1:58 "great tip" Yes. A great tip indeed. I can tell that because once you see it, it's so obvious. I learned something there!
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Oh yes, That one, I had to check. That was. one I picked up off a random video a long time ago. It saved me a lot on this one. Seems none of the timber is perfectly straight, as expected I guess. Hope it comes in handy one day.
@elioth.g.w2976 10 ай бұрын
Nice now a little more than 150mm :)
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, this stage feels infinitely more satisfying and ironically took a load less time and broke way less in my body.
@thefakemaker 6 ай бұрын
I’m loving seeing this build. In Australia the majority of buildings like this would be steel sheds. But they bake in the summer.
@startmaking1 5 ай бұрын
Gosh, I can't imagine a metal building. I would expire.
@steve230870 10 ай бұрын
Good video. Should take a look at Oakwood Garden Rooms, they've got a lot of videos about the construction of garden rooms, the framing is pretty similar to this.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Steve. I found their channel a little late but it is clear that they are very talented at what they do. Thank you
@NathanTalbertWoodworking 10 ай бұрын
Looks great. I wish I had the room to make a larger shop. my 8x12 just doesn't cut it.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Nathan. I understand. That was my frustration with the smaller shed. IT was good up to a point. I sorry you dont have the space, I was lucky in that regard,
@shaun30-3-mg9zs 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mark , It's taking shape and it is looking great. It is a two man job a bit of planing and a bit of thinking you can do it your self. It is a good size workshop ,I know the fun is in the building, but the pleasure is when you make your first project in your new workshop . Keep it up mate and enjoy it, take care mate see you on the next video😀😀🔨🪚🪛🔩🔧⚒👍👍👍
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Shaun. I totally get it now. I was determined to do it solo but there have been one or two times I have had my dad over helping with carrying stuff. And that was priceless. I am loving the building but as the first project is a workbench , that excited me just as much. But it is a way off as electrics need to go in too. Thank you as always for such a nice comment.
@shaun30-3-mg9zs 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 Thank's Mark ,Good luck with the build mate
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@watton1 10 ай бұрын
I'm njoying watching these video's as I plan to start doing some woodwork myself as I near retirement. Would it be possible for you, at the end of this buld series, to let us know how much the whole thing costs you? I need a new shed and would like to work out if it would be cheaper to buy one or start from scratch and build my own. Thanks for making the video's anyway 👍
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I absolutely plan to do this. All costs and places I could have cut back.
@Damon_Barber 10 ай бұрын
I know you probably film a couple of weeks in advance, but just a note that this would be a great place to run some electrical conduit to the middle of the floor where your workbench will be. It would be fairly easy to then tie in to outlets in the wall that are fed by either a wired panel or your solar setup. It’s coming together nicely! Great job!!
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
You read my mind, albeit a little too late. I went back and forth on this for ages while building the walls and even earlier. In all honesty I will probably regret it but I cam to the conclusion that having it beneath was best for practicality, but with the risk of dust filling it and the future use of the building, should we sell, I decided to run power to the centre of the ceiling where I will have 4 sockets above the workbench and 2 led panel lights, massive overkill and not quite as good as I plan to have a dust collector of some sort under that bench, and that will be plugged into the wall. Believe it or not but I also considered solar but the cost to set up was too restrictive.
@cqpadovani 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Your humbleness and positive attitude is inspiring!! Awesome video!!
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Ah, that is really kind. Really kind.
@EntropiaGuitars 10 ай бұрын
"It is possible for someone with limited skills ..." - limited skills my ass, great video series and well presented! You're going to have a great new space to work in!
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
That is so kind. I genuinely still view myself as a beginner. Cant wait to get the space up and running though. Still a way to go.
@EntropiaGuitars 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 Framing is a black art, and very daunting. I'm in Ireland with a kit house from Sweden that's all timber, and there was a lot of framing in that. Drove me demented figuring it out. I think I had PTSD watching you do yours, but yours was a lot slicker than mine.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
I get the PTSD comment. I have had a fair few head in hands moments. The power if editing really helps to make it look smooth. Wait for the roof video, it's hard to hide the pain of that one. So I probably wont.
@LeeLocke 10 ай бұрын
This is so inspiring. You've got this. Thanks and best of luck.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I will be relieved when it is done.
@LeeLocke 10 ай бұрын
@startmaking1 You're very welcome. Thanks for your reply. Enjoy your Sunday. All the best, Lee. 🪵 🐕 🌞
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
You too. Lee
@Ceen328 10 ай бұрын
Watching you doing all the screwing without a knee pads kinda hurts. 😄
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
You are so right. I am cross with myself for not getting any. Spoiler I stick my knee to the roof in a few episodes time., That was not fun.
@daniel__clark 10 ай бұрын
Another channel worth a view is oakwood garden rooms. They are highend, but there will be plenty of tips and tricks to be 'borrowed'. Thank you for the content and good luck with the build
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Ah yes, I took a quick look at that one a week or so ago when I was freaking out about the roof. In truth, I watched a bit where he spoke to his workers and it was very abrupt. Put me off a little but they are definitely experts in their field. Thank you
@gordoncrates3508 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mark. Love watching your journey into woodworking. I've been a joiner for over 40 years and rapidly approaching 60. You are going to love having the new workshop with more space and electric. Suggest that the next project is a decent workbench. Don't feel shy to pick the brains of us who have been doing it for years. Gordon
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Gordon. Your experience is so welcome. And you are spot on about the work bench. I am looking for ideas and plans as we speak . A lot will hinge on how I decide to incorporate the table saw and which one I go for. My heart wants a small cabinet saw but my head knows that it is not inline with the channel and a job site saw like a dewalt is more suitable. I just want a good fence and enough power. If you have any input on that or any other topics , never hesitate.
@waynehood1571 10 ай бұрын
Looking good I made the mistake when I bought my 16ft by. 10ft having double doors along the 16ft side wish I had done a single door on the 10ft side would have gave me a lot more wall space oh well .looking forward to seeing the finish build 👍👍👍
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
sorry to hear that Wayne. though it makes me happy that I have gone for the smaller wall. though it is a massive door. Well,,2 doors. No windows on 2 walls though, so I am hoping to have an entire wall of tool storage.
@a9ball1 10 ай бұрын
Just a quick note. If you turn the speed square around so the point is facing you it'll give you a little bit more control when cutting. I'm jealous! Looking good!
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right and would you believe that I actually included that in a video a year ago and since then, forgot it and want back to my old way. Thankyou for reminding me and for your kind comment.
@Tensquaremetreworkshop 9 ай бұрын
Built my workshop in a similar manner. Decided against windows- -they take valuable wall space -you aren't looking out when working -they let others (intruders) see your valuable tools inside. Light? I put glass in both eaves, gives a lot of light without taking useful space. I built on a reinforced concrete base (machine tools are heavy) which also helped in keeping the height below the 2.5m max for buildings within 2m of the boundary not requiring planning consent.
@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын
windows are vital for this build to make it flexible for the next owners. No point in having a garden room/office.gym without a view. As for wall space, that depends on how many tools you need. I plan on one wall being almost free so I can film against it. I want to make nice looking videos as well as informative ones. This base will easily cope with the weight of what I am putting in the building. I had no choice on planning consent even though it is below 2.5m.
@Tensquaremetreworkshop 9 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 Ahh, did not realize you were not building it for yourself. Film against a free wall? Most channels 'decorate' the backdrop with old planes, French cleat assemblages, etc. Just not systainers, please ;-}
@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын
Oh no, it is definitely for me. But I want to leave the flexibility of it not being entirely custom made so that when we move house, the new owner will not just see a workshop, they will have multiple options and it will add value.
@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын
I may do the French cleat option again but I have an entire wall opposite the windows where I plan to do that. I want to try a nice clean back drop to start with. also , I dont plan to have a fraction of the tools that other channels have, It is not the way that this should go. I am charting a journey that should be true and accessible to fellow beginner and intermediate woodworkers. I am not teaching after all.
@oddjobbill 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic progress nice to see what you can achieve on your own 👍👍👍
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. Much appreciated. Blooming hard work but a lot of satisfaction
@ScarletEyeMoon 10 ай бұрын
This is awesome, I'm so excited for you getting a new shop.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@tacticalskiffs8134 3 ай бұрын
Nails are rated, structural fasteners, designed for this work. Screws that have fancy heads, are probably sintered metal, and unless you paid several quid each, are not rated for this kind of work. Doubt you building will fall appart, but people tend to underestimate how sophisticated and superior nails are. Building techniques are designed to put them in shear, and their ductile nature is ideal for that. Plus hammering them in is as good as golf, with hooks and slices to boot. You probably haven't heard of Mike Holmes, but he had a very popular contracting show in Canada. "Make it right" was his motto. He screwed everything together, impact drivers were getting popular at the time, so he looked very slick. But I knew nails were better and was cheered when he went to LA, and was told his screws weren't code in an earthquake zone. Probably not in Canada either.
@startmaking1 3 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right of course. Thank you for sharing.
@StrawbyteWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
Excellent progress on this project. Looking forward to the next update.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
@Vazik05 10 ай бұрын
Part 2!!!! Looking awesome man, you're doing great, I can't wait to see how you put the rest together, waiting for episode 3 lol
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you bud. Part 3 will be delayed a week as I have a different video to release, to fulfil a pre-existing agreement. But it will really start to move forwards from here.
@Vazik05 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 No worries! I look forward to that one too! Love all your videos, watching you build is an endorphin release for me.
@jimrosson6702 10 ай бұрын
Looking amazing great job can’t wait to see it finished.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Jim. Not going now I hope,
@anthonygriffin3147 10 ай бұрын
Belting rkid keep up the good work love your vids
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
thank you Anthony.
@peterschmidt9942 10 ай бұрын
You're going well there - starting to look like a structure! It's perfectly good to make larger walls in smaller sections especially if it's one person putting them up. It certainly makes it easier saving your back. I'm glad you mentioned putting a top rail around the whole structure to keep the walls from bowing and reinforcing the joins. One thing with laying out your stud spacing is most conventional walls are made either with 450mm or 600mm on centre - not 400mm. It's really dependant of the load on the wall. Plus insulation batts also come in those sizes to fit straight in - no cutting to fit (as you'll have to do if insulating). Hopefully all of your stud spacing end at 1200mm intervals so your outer sheets don't end with no stud behind it.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
lol. I may not have made the studs quite the perfect 1200mm, it was a learn as you go style framing job. There are some walls that now have 2 rows of noggins to support the boards. Belt and braces and all that.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching. Please click the like and Subscribe if you haven't already. Another apology to Ali Dymock for butchering his surname right through the video. His channel literally saved my sanity on this stage.
@robertmaggi6979 10 ай бұрын
Nice work mate . ;)
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you again Robert.
@deangriffiths8107 10 ай бұрын
Wow that’s gonna be some workshop, I’m quite jealous. As an engineer who knows nothing I have to suggest a couple of things, when using a chalk line make sure the line is taught on, and touching the surface you want to mark before snapping it, also when trying to get something square like the walls put a screw or nail in diagonal corners tie a rope to one and pull it around the other until square just take it easy, it always amazes me how easy it is to move something with a bit of mechanical advantage.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Dean, Great points, the chalk line flick was my first ever. Not proud of the technique, needs practise. Makes sense to be closer. Also I would never have thought about the mechanical advantage of the corner pull. Thank you .
@michaelwillson6847 10 ай бұрын
A see u edited the pinned comment?? A noticed what u put in originally 😂 that looks wicked m8 coming together nicely gonna be beautiful shed(shop) once it's done. Its coming together really quickly and well done on the 2 man lift yourself speak soon 👏🏴👍
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Shame you are all the way in Scotland. That was a definite 2 man lift. With all the practise on large slabs, you could probably lift it for me. lol
@michaelwillson6847 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1dunno about that I've had few f*** that and let it go moments but yea shifting them takes its toll although that's why we do this work no save on gym membership??
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Especially with your log cutting in the winter.
@michaelwillson6847 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 yea that takes fair bit moving stuff about for cutting gathering and splitting 10 ton ish.
@riccardo-964 9 ай бұрын
I love this project - thanks for sharing
@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын
it is slowly getting there.
@craigsimons2217 10 ай бұрын
Enjoying this series, as I have enjoyed all your videos. I built a garden shed a year or so ago along the same lines, but much smaller than your shop. I’m looking forward to seeing the next videos. Good job, good luck!,
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Craig. Much appreciated.
@adam-qf2vz 10 ай бұрын
Its coming along.....looking good.....Ilike the way you laid the sidewalls onto the floor to mark them.....quick and simple. Im rebuilding a 300 year old shed/barn that is oak framed. the frame is leaning 6 inches off vertical on back and front and also leaning 3 inches off vertical side to side. It also is wider at one end than the other. its taking a lot of time to even get ready to fix a roof which is also at differing levels...... I'll get there....but maybe less speedily...always like your videos....thanks for the content
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Adam. I dont envy you with the barn build. All of these angles would fry my brain. I hope that it comes together without too much stress.
@ianpearse4480 10 ай бұрын
Interesting build. Cheers for sharing.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Ian. And thank you for watching,
@themeat5053 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful! Mark, here I go with nails only because they have greater shear strength than screws. So, if the wind blows hard, the nails are less likely to snap vs. the screws. Screws do have better tensile strength, but in many U.S. locations the building code requires nails, that's why I do it. The only thing I noticed is that the way you joined the walls might make it difficult when you go to sheet rock the interior. There is a technique called a, "California corner," that allows for one stud in each corner to be on the flat in order to have a place to screw the rock into without have a floppy corner. That's a nit pick because I am sure you will figure something out. You're doing great! Last comment about nails is that if the plate were out of square, with nails, you could move it over with a hammer and some muscle, but your way worked well, also; proving that there is more than one way to skin a cat. Love the jersey. 🔨
@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын
"there is more than one way to skin a cat" You're right, there are two ways, flat skinning and case skinning. Both ways are nasty. BTDT 😁🖖✌
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mr Meat. Yes, to be honest , I think I should have gone both for the framing, nails for flex and screws for me, ie pulling the wood together. Great spot on the walls ands not a spoiler for 2 weeks time but it was fixed retrospectively. more for the roof but a happy coincidence that it helps with the interior. You will be sad, another spoiler but the jersey does not do well with paint. And again you are right on the movement. I wanted to straighten another area and I could not budge it one bit. Was rock solid. Not a major issue but all down to the screws.
@themeat5053 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 You're getting there. Congratulations. You're breaking my heart regarding the jersey. Can I replace it for you? That's the key. Jersey in the good weather (your shtick) and flannels in the fall/winter (just like Norm). Carpentry and construction are a thinking man's game. Any idiot can nail two pieces of wood together, but it takes some brains to figure out the engineering and solid construction. I liked your raising two panels for the long walls. I was always too stupid to do that; besides wanting to prove that I didn't need any help. I guess that may be part of the reason I can't raise my hands over my shoulders anymore. Longevity is essential.
@themeat5053 10 ай бұрын
And, you can call me, Meat.
@mrboics 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Perfect excuse to buy a nail gun gone wasted here 😂
@lynjermey6423 10 ай бұрын
I really look forward to this series of videos. It's looking great so far. Some really great tips as well. Can I ask why you had to get planning permission?
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. The planning is because we live in a listed building on account of its age.
@lynjermey6423 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 Ah I see, I only asked because we have a cabin in our garden and it's about the same floor space.
@gcarson19 10 ай бұрын
Guarantee that your couple of mil margin is much more accurate than the average framing crew would do. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I think that I need to get out of the mindset of a maker of small boxes. Hard though.
@billffromnh 10 ай бұрын
I missed your first build video, but I'll go back & view it. Mark, I've done some framing & your work & methods both look good to me. There isn't just one right way & a wrong way to do framing anyway. I think you using screws makes your framing even stronger than using nails but both work well. I've not used screws myself in the past, but the more commonly available here galvanized nails. I'll keep me eye out for your future workshop construction videos. Do I see floorspace for an additional powered tool or two? Some of mine are the benchtop size.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
There is a lot more floorspace, though, you an I both know that it doesnt always look as big as you thought once the tools and benches get moved in. Technically it is well over twice the size of the last. So I will definitely be getting a larger tool once I have the electrics done. I am torn though, my heart wants to go all out and get a small cabinet table saw but me head knows that this is not in line with the viewers of this channel and knows I should get a job. site saw and set it in the outfield table. I also really want a good band saw. hmmm
@AdamFahn 10 ай бұрын
Coming along nicely.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Adam.
@chrisb2443 10 ай бұрын
If you’re not too far on from this stage I would add an extra stud at each corner so that your internal plywood/plasterboard has a corner fixing. Otherwise one sheet at each corner will not be supported. I did a ‘3 stud corner’ but there are a few ways to do it. Great work by the way. I will enjoy this series.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
That is spot on and thank you for mentioning it. Luckily I had to do it for the roof, so by chance, I should get to not have floppy interior corners. And thank you for the compliment. Means a lot,
@jonrost5574 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant job! Thanks for the tips along the way. I will definitely check out Ali's videos.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
He has 20 videos for the one build, that is how much detail he puts in. Really impressive.
@WoodenItBeNice27 4 ай бұрын
I don’t understand when people build sheds why they build wall’s different heights just use furrings !! So much easier
@startmaking1 4 ай бұрын
To be honest, lack of ability and experience in this case. As for other people, I can't comment.
@WoodenItBeNice27 4 ай бұрын
Fair enough mate, I haven’t finished this series yet but so far I’m enjoying it 👍
@startmaking1 4 ай бұрын
@swiftbiged2526 thank you. Bit of a novice attempt but it's still standing which is nice lol.
@WoodenItBeNice27 4 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 I’m sure it won’t be going anywhere anytime soon 😄👍
@johntaylor2489 10 ай бұрын
Great build. Super strong. That's not going anywhere 😅
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
lol. It is a lot more timber and screws than needed. but I figure that will make up for my lack of knowledge. Thankyou
@Toots8888 10 ай бұрын
Great stuff! Thank you.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@paulbrant-hl2xo 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mark, I said I would be watching, well, So far so good, but I did say you needed help, Any way like I said before, you should be very proud of your self and I hope the knee is better, Well, what can I say, yes, you did go a bit OTT on some of the lintal's, Like before (nothing) At this point you need to think what will happen if it rain's, I noticed you are having a flat roof, Very wise move, A frame's are murder if your on your own, Have you concidered drainage from the said roof, OK I will leave you alone now untill next time, Mark, I am not being nasty in any way but I would rate the work you have done so far as: 9.6 over-all, Keep up the Damned good work, Regard's: Paul B. It will be good to see phase 2 complete.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
I will take that rating Paul. Thank you. The roof has a slight camber as the front is 100mm higher than the back. I have yet to fit a gutter but the run off has been well and truly tested by the weather. I guess that is a bit of a spoiler for 2 weeks time. The knee improved after I stopped lugging silly amounts of rubble, sand and slabs down the garden. Seems to be happier with timber moving. Guess that's why I am a woodworker. I looked into A frame roof and to be honest, is was beyond what I felt happy doing and would be too tall for the planning. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the next bits.
@paulbrant-hl2xo 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 Hi Mark, In minds eye you have ph3 The cladding ext, ph4 The roof, ph5 The glazing, ph6 The insulation int, ph7 The Final dec's, That is a LOT of work for just one man, This is why we in the trade have to take care and keep away from danger, TAKE IT EASY and dont forget to get help when needed and you will be fine.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
That sounds like the order I have in mind for the videos. Though the interior will be delayed as I have not scheduled an electrician yet.
@davidsecker5161 10 ай бұрын
This is really good, I've wanted to do this myself but just don't have the room. I have to do my woodwork in half of a garage. When it's completed will you give us the costs. Can't be cheap with the price of materials now. I was surprised when you said you needed planning permission, i didn't think that was necessary, is it due to size.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. My last video will be a Q and A of sorts with all of the most asked questions from the build and a full breakdown of the cost as well as the cheaper alternatives. Planning is because we live in a listed building.
@pietjepuk9575 10 ай бұрын
I guess you are happy that you got a impact driver ? 🤣🤣👍👍 great job Marc 👌👌
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
So much so. I have lost count of the screws but will tot them up at the end. Thank you
@CinkSVideo 10 ай бұрын
Nice work. What ever are you going to do with that extra space? 😊
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Fill it very quickly, no doubt lol
@andybrown9334 10 ай бұрын
Nails are typically used as they have more tensile strength than screws so are less prone to shearing.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. and I spent a long time considering buying a nail gun. In truth the screw cost would have paid for it but I was not entirely confident in the use of it and so opted for more than the amount of screws needed. I hope that it will be ok. I still hammered in over 1000 nails in this project just not in the frame.
@emm_arr 10 ай бұрын
Getting myself four clamps very much like the ones you use here really made my life easier. My last project use for them was to secure a bit of straight edge bit of moulding - with spurs every 18 inches - to the side of my stairs so I could replaster to it and fix a terrible plastering job on the underside. No more ragged edge.. Why do I mention this? Because people sometimes think they don't need clamps. I'm not convinced. A lot of work is built upon work holding for speed, accuracy and safety. And if you can't do the work holding, the work itself is much harder.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
agreed, those clamps are the only reason I managed to do this alone to be honest.
@martinjenkins6472 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait to start mine (6M wide x 8M deep with concrete floor) but have to wait to exchange contracts first :D
@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget a good footing, extending below the freeze line and a slab thick enough, to be able to bolt things down 1/2" (50mm) just doesn't do it. 😁🖖✌
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
That is a seriously good size Martin. I expect to see the results.,
@martinjenkins6472 10 ай бұрын
@@zapa1pnt I'm a retired carpenter/builder...I think I've got all the bases covered ☺
@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын
@@martinjenkins6472: Well, that's nice. Actually, I was trying to reply to Mark.
@AndrewMillar001 10 ай бұрын
Loving your videos. Building my own at the moment as well. Can I ask what size yours is? It doesn't look far off mine which will be 6m x 4.8m.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew. Not too far off at all I am at 4.8m by 3.6m ish. So around half the size, a little more. So I will be jealous if I ever see yours.
@AndrewMillar001 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 I'm starting to wish I had started off building something a little simpler. Never done anything like this before. It's only through videos like yours and Ali Dymock's I've managed to get the confidence to start it.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Ali Dymocks genuinely came to me at a head in hands moment when I thought I had truly messed this up. Not reached out to him yet but the level of detail that he put into that series was amazing.
@AndrewMillar001 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 You might also find kzfaq.info/sun/PLsdkje7GLwHzGPEv1lDruc4PUlmsf3ejo helpful. I came to it late, but this framing playlist and also the ones on bases and roofing are very useful.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant , thank you
@nidiot37 10 ай бұрын
Thinking of making this but can't find any 4x2s. Would 2x4s work?
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Lol, I think that you could import 4x2 s from then UK, may be easiest lol
@whereistumble 10 ай бұрын
great tips, none of the channel links work unfortunately (ali dymock & badger)
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for letting me know. Think I have fixed the issue.
@dougpark1025 10 ай бұрын
The build is coming along well. Terminology in construction is very inconsistent. You kind of have to adapt to whoever you are working with or learning from.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Doug. Thank you. And I am glad that I did not get a lot of comments about my lack of technical knowledge. PS it doesnt improve as the build goes on.
@leevann6685 Ай бұрын
Whats the size of your workshed?
@startmaking1 Ай бұрын
The base is 3.6m by 4.8m. Height roughly 2.5m
@johnfletcher2664 4 ай бұрын
what size is it pls
@startmaking1 4 ай бұрын
Hi John. 4.8m by 3.6m
@brucewelty7684 10 ай бұрын
I noticed that you pronounce 2x4 like a Yankee! Most Brits say "bee" rather than "bye".
@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын
Actually, he said 4x2 and , yes, did say "by".
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Hi Bruce. You know, the thing about teaching yourself off KZfaq is that I watch about an equal amount US as I do UK based channels and have no idea what I am saying. And when I walk into my local timber merchants with half of the measurements in Inches and half in mm they have finally gotten used to it.
@brucewelty7684 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 Years ago, I worked for a company that had design offices in US Japan and France. I was tasked with verifying that the drawings we were all using were the same. US 3rd angle Imperial, Japan 3rd angle metric, France 1st angle metric. HOLEECRAP.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Oh wow, that would induce me to melt down.
@meta.aesthetica 10 ай бұрын
Did you have to get planning permission for this build?
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Yes, only because I live in a listed building though. The size etc would have fallen under permitted development otherwise.
@grunt-yt 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 I did wonder why you needed plamnning permission in the last vid. Thought that Englandshire had silly rules compared to Scotland.😄
@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget a good footing, extending below the freeze line and a slab thick enough, to be able to bolt things down. 2" (50mm) just doesn't do it. 😁🖖✌
@stephenweston1807 10 ай бұрын
That's going nowhere - you could park a car on top of that! I like to over-engineer things too - my concrete shed base would support a large oil tank apparently. Compare that to an off-the-shelf garden building with its 2x2 framework and 12mm shiplap.
@startmaking1 10 ай бұрын
Thats the hope. And with OSB skin and another layer of ply inside it should be there a while hopefully.
@alland1241 10 ай бұрын
@@startmaking1 Don't worry about it lasting, mines been done similar and is nearing it's 20 year birthday
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