Garden Room Workshop BUILD Episode 4 || The RUBBER Roof

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9 ай бұрын

This weeks episode includes the very worst day I have encountered on the build. Mistakes were made and painful lessons learnt.
This weeks video is all about the next stage of the Workshop/ Garden Room build. Roof, Fascias, Soffits and Rhone vent building wrap.
In order the building was wrapped, sheeting was installed on the roof, Fascia, Soffits and finally the EDPM Rubber roof were installed.
Stay tuned to find out just how far sideways this one went.
For a comprehensive list of all my tools - www.start-making.com/tools
A few links to the tools you have seen
WRAP SECTION
Rhino Vent breathable membrane - UK LINK - amzn.to/3KDLefA
Staple Gun - UK LINK - amzn.to/47t20aP
US LINK - amzn.to/3qqsnO3
Sheathing tape - UK LINK - amzn.to/3KBxa6e
SOFFIT AND FACIA
Grey Anthracite Fascia Board - UK LINK - amzn.to/47kWlUi
Grey Anthracite Soffit Board - UK LINK - amzn.to/3sc66E6
Grey Anthracite Fascia Board joints - UK LINK - amzn.to/47GcvrN
Grey Anthracite Fascia Board corners - UK LINK - amzn.to/44a9o8i
Grey Anthracite soffit Board joints - UK LINK - amzn.to/3OV4o3e
Flush trim router but 1/4 inch - UK LINK - amzn.to/3SgmGw3
US LINK - amzn.to/3HBztUX
RUBBER ROOF
www.rubber4roofs.co.uk - NOT an Affiliate link
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@Nalski2007 9 ай бұрын

I'm sure most of use have had at least one or two "Oh no, I can't do this" moments when it seems like you've pulled defeat from the jaws of victory, but you battled on and the results speak volumes about your sheer tanacity. Well done, you must be chuffed and deservedly so.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

I am really happy, thank you. And a little surprised that I didn't throw the toys out and give up.

@burnstockwoodworking 9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂the box of screws sliding off the roof...very tame reaction, well done.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

It was a weird moment, kind of slow motion. And luckily it was early in the stage otherwise it could have broken me. Hope you are doing alright bud. Hope your amazing new workshop is coming along. What a space.

@jamesclarke1830 9 ай бұрын

Really appreciate you showing the negatives as well as the positives. Well done on pushing through. Looks a cracking build.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you James. There are always negatives in my builds no matter how large or small. You will always get to see them. Do many to edit out lol.

@jamesclarke1830 9 ай бұрын

Haha fantastic. Definitely my new favourite channel!@@startmaking1

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Oh James. That is kind and very much appreciated.

@marianneshepard5980 9 ай бұрын

I appreciate seeing that building issues happen to everyone. One take away for me was, if an "accessory kit" is offered, look to see the components and buy better grade at a local store. It's worth extra expense (maybe not extra) to know you have a quality tool. Also buy extra if budget allows in case a roller breaks. You did a great job on your own.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Marianne. Much appreciated. And you are right. a few extra rollers would have made the world of difference here.

@markwalczak3374 9 ай бұрын

Loving the series and honestly, some creators on KZfaq are over produced videos, loving your channel Mark keep them videos coming 👏

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Very much appreciated Mark. Thank you

@funkyflips5388 9 ай бұрын

Mark, you make me want to build a Shed now! 😂 You are so easy to watch and you explain everything so well, so that a newbie like me can understand. I watch all of your clips on my TV so I can’t comment from there. Loving how your bigger shed is turning out, you won’t know yourself with all that extra space lol

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Oh, thank you. That is kind. I am a little nervous of the extra space. Guess I will have to fill it with tools eventually.

@ijleach 9 ай бұрын

Hard work and difficult circumstances, but a positive outcome which makes the final decision to push through worth the effort. Looking good 👍

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Spot on. Very true.

@adeh503 9 ай бұрын

Mark you're absolutely smashing this mate its looking the dogs nuts, not your mistakes brother just unfortunate circumstances

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thats kind mate. Thank you. Very much appreciated. It's now that I look back that I am glad I didn't throw the towel in.

@margaretumbsen9015 9 ай бұрын

I agree that you are too hard on yourself. You admit several times that this is your first time doing this work. Everybody has a first time. You are a very good problem solver when you’re not rushing and overheated. Maybe let yourself have the time to “figure it out” and then talk through that process? I enjoy your channel very much. Cheers from the U.S.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Margaret. Great advice too.

@christianwithers7335 9 ай бұрын

Dog's bollocks

@Birkguitars 9 ай бұрын

We've all had those "nearly broke me" moments and often for the most stupid of reasons. My highest "triviality of problem to size of meltdown ratio" moment involved the lid of a ten litre tub of emulsion paint. The plastic lid was so hard to lever off it was raking the top layer of skin off my fingers but as I worked my way around the lid loosening it up bit by bit the upward pressure on the side I was opening was putting downward pressure on the opposite side re-engaging the connection and closing it back up again. It was very late. I was very tired. And now even the paint pot was conspiring against me. After two laps of painfully forcing one side open and having the other self close on me I totally lost my entire lifetime supply of sh*t and started pounding the lid with the paintbrush I was intending to use to the point where a part of the plastic handle snapped off and pinged across the landing ending up in the hallway downstairs. I think I used every swear word I knew and possibly invented a few new ones to express my rage at the fundamentally evil nature of all plastic containers everywhere past present and yet to be invented. It happens. Luckily mine was not on film. It must be even harder to cope when you have a camera bearing witness to everything you do and say so huge credit to you for soldiering on and getting it done without going totally Basil Fawlty on it. Although that would have been totally justified. And very funny to watch. 👏👍.

@ibubezi7685 9 ай бұрын

We should invent some 'lid-open-holder'... Kinda like a clamp that you lay on/over the rim and then fix it with a screw - from there you work your way around until it pops off. A clever bucket-manufacturer would be able to integrate it - but then, at 10c extra, it would be "unfeasible" - and the marketing-committee would think it being "too revolutionary" 😉

@Birkguitars 9 ай бұрын

@@ibubezi7685 Stronger paint brush handles might be an idea as well.....

@baddog4347 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing the difficulties of this project instead of making it look easy 👍

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

I find it is easier to make it look hard than to make it look easier lol. But seriously, I could never cut out all of the honest mistakes. It has to be true to life.

@charliethebubbles 9 ай бұрын

You keep going, this has been a great series to watch. When I last did a roof like this I fractured my thumb with a hammer and nearly cut a finger off with a saw.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Ah, thank you. Much appreciated. Your day was a lot worse than mine. Wow.

@ChrisMurley 9 ай бұрын

What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger! You must be superhuman by now? Tough job but excellent result Mark. You will look back with pride later. Well done 👍

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, very true. Superman with lots of aches and pains. Funny you say the last part. I spend a fair amount of time stood inside it looking around wondering how I managed to get this far. Weird feeling .

@esxdave 9 ай бұрын

Oh man I felt for you there, baking hot day and then the tools start breaking! I can imagine there’s an 18+ rated version of this video you could’ve done with all the swearing left in. Well done for powering through 👍

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

There is. And luckily the mic was way to low to catch my muttering from the time the broom broke to some time 3 days later.

@chicobabyification 9 ай бұрын

You're patience is admirable, the roller snapping would have sent me over the edge (literally) 🤣 100% divebomb off the roof 🤣

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hey Nico. Thank you. If I had been earlier in the glue process I dont think I would have coped. Very fortunate timing.

@chicobabyification 9 ай бұрын

I'm sure you would mate and in fairness the roof came out perfect 👍🏻 coming along great ❤️

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

cheers Nico.

@zapa1pnt 9 ай бұрын

Mark, I love your positive, can do, get 'er done attitude. You plan well and take things one step at a time and you don't waste time over thinking it and getting discouraged. You encounter problems, fix them and move on. Stiff upper lip, mate. 👍👍 I could never post a video of anything I do. It would be nothing but blue air 🤬🤬🤬🤬 and things hurled about the room. 😱😱 Kudos and cheers. 😁✌🖖 P.S.: Remember me mentioning knee pads?

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Lol There has been a lot of blue air bud. That is what editing and voice over is for. That way I can speak more calmly editing it a month after. I would have thrown the brush and roller but then I would have been screwed. Knee pads, how bloody right you were. Thank you

@SJ.77 6 ай бұрын

I started building a shed just over a fortnight ago - for the first few days a couple of robins used to come down to me n eat all the worms I was digging up....n I felt like a DIY Mary Poppins....by day four as I filled the air with all kindsa scurrility I noticed the Robins were no longer visiting and by day 7 even the worms had made themselves scarce....

@Lazarus-aap 9 ай бұрын

This is very relatable... But you did it and you can now sit nice and dry in your own cosy workshop that you are building with your own hands! You have learned very valuable lessons and you have done it! Don't kick yourself. Be proud! Well done

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. And you are right, I have the space now and if you could see the amount of times I pop into it just to stand and take a look around, you would see how proud I am.

@Lazarus-aap 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Yes i can imagine that. I would do the same! I hope your new workshop will bring you even more good things than you've dreamed of!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you,

@Gungho1a 6 ай бұрын

We live and learn, my friend. Its our mistakes that help others learn.

@startmaking1 6 ай бұрын

Thats the hope.

@projectrebuild908 9 ай бұрын

That looked like a true deadpool maximum effort job. Some lovely hospital corners on the rubber roof corners. It looks smart. I am looking forward to the rest of this series.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

I love that you picked up on the reference. And thank you on the kind comment. I tried not to overthink the corners if I am honest.

@projectrebuild908 9 ай бұрын

@startmaking1 we had to make our beds with hospital corners in the military.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Ah, I see. So you are trained to do it in your sleep basically.

@Jimc4007 9 ай бұрын

I think putting the rubber roof down in the heat was an excellent idea and way to do it. The heat was actually your friend helping to get it down smooth and the heat helped cure the glue and smooth out the roofing material. Didn't see anything badly wrong with your installation! You're going to have a nice work space in the end it appears to me. Looking forward to your next steps and progress!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Weirdly it may have helped and that crossed my mind in the morning when I made the decision. It certainly didn't need to sit long to lose the creases. I would have preferred maybe 5 degrees cooler or at least one cloud in the sky but in the end I will take the results. Thank you.

@Mick_B1964 9 ай бұрын

I totally share your pain ! I did exactly as you..decided to lay the rubber roof on a scorching hot day in 2020 . The PVA bond was bad enough but then the contact adhesive not only cured within seconds of application but clogged the roller I was using ! Well after struggling with the contact adhesive on the shortest, rear part of the roof, I binned it off and did the remaining 3 sides with a copious amount of the PVA...3 years on it is still in place and looks the job ! We always learn from the odd error, after all we're DIYers not Pro's 😊

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Wow, you just described my day. The roller for the contact adhesive just stuck to the cured glue as it had cured on the roller. Fortunately I had a spare of that and just made it round but the quality of the work is questionable. I didn't even think that I could have used the PVA but of course I could have. I suspect that the PVA roller broke due to the clogging. Hard to tell I was too cross to inspect it, Glad your is still going strong. And thank you

@duncanstreet4955 9 ай бұрын

Well done Mark the build is coming along brilliantly, things are sent to try you along the way but you’re working logically through them. Keep it up, love the build series.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Duncan. Thank you so much. You are not wrong.

@wsherratt5159 8 ай бұрын

Well Mark, I can truly empathise having done pretty much exactly the same. I e]was fortunate the kit held together but I still ended up with that edging glue everywhere. The bonus is, I kept the off cuts to make bench top covered boards which stop stuff moving about when sanding, I’ve used small pieces to go under shaped sanding blocks and finally make a few extra boots for dust collection around my Bosch mitre saw. It’s the gift that keeps giving. Keep up the channel mate, I love your enthusiasm and really honest explanation when tackling projects. You’ve ended up with a fantastic workshop space which will be be a safe haven and place to escape. Best of luck, Wayne

@startmaking1 8 ай бұрын

lol. Everywhere. It's so sticky. What a great idea for the off cuts. I feel silly for binning mine. The sanding blocks is an awesome use. Worth a video really. And thank you for the kind comments . Much appreciated.

@davidsecker5161 9 ай бұрын

Well done, it's looking great. Really jealous, I don't have the room.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you David. It takes up a fair bit of space. I feel very lucky,.

@ScarletEyeMoon 9 ай бұрын

Oh wow two tools breaking on the same job, just a little DIY chaos, however your shop looks awesome and everything worked out in the end. I'm excited to see how you place everything inside too, it won't be complete until you hang your Start Making sign after you complete the inside.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Not ideal but you are spot on. When the interior is done and I am back to making in there, none of this journey will matter except to have learnt.

@gazobee 9 ай бұрын

I did mine last summer when it was 30 degrees. It would have been easier if you had rolled the rubber rather folding it over. I definitely used a pole on the roller and glued about a foot to two feet width at a time. I also used my gloves hand to smooth the rubber as I rolled it back out and never resorted to brushing it at all. I had absolutely no bubbles in mine at all. I would recommend watching the rubber roof videos on the Oakwood Garden Rooms channel by Liam. His videos are super helpful.

@gazobee 9 ай бұрын

Oh and knee pads, use knee pads! My roof was absolutely scorching by the time I had finished.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. That is very good advice., And knee pads are the best advice through all of the build videos so far. My faulty for not listening.

@jamesmcc5147 9 ай бұрын

Mark, you are being too hard on yourself. A couple of pieces of equipment break - no fault of yours. You got the job done. As for the weather, well as you said near the end it poured down for weeks after, so I think you were right to go for it. The result is that you've done a smashing job on the roof. Give yourself a well deserved pat on the back. I hope you poured yourself a nice stiff drink at the end of that day and reflected on what you had achieved. It's looking great. Well done.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi James. I have to say that I sat inside after completion for a fair amount of time, kind of breathing it in. This part felt like I had reached the top off the hill and the rest of the build was the walk back down. But it was quite a day, And assessing all factors, you are right I had to do it. The shed had leaked under a tarp the day before and I was really concerned that the next few days would start to damage the work I had done. All in all, lessons were learnt and the result counts. Thank you as always .

@markr7217 9 ай бұрын

At least you leave the mistakes in 😅 the box sliding off at the start 😅

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Luckily I was still at the able to laugh stage of that one. Even picking them out of the flower bed below.

@cqpadovani 9 ай бұрын

Wow you saved it!! Even though you got some issues you actually made it all the way!! Great work!!! I really enjoy you videos!! Thank you!!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I think I was fully committed with no way back at this point. Feel like I made it to the top of the hill though at this point and the rest is the easy downwards slope.

@lynnecasgrain7746 9 ай бұрын

Another absolutely wonderful video! Keeping it real for all of us know-nothings and with a bang on, self-deprecating, honest sense of humour. Wow. Thank you for all of that hard work.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Lynne. you are very kind. I have to laugh at myself as I seem to be pretty prone to errors. Though it is a good way to learn,.

@gregbaily7971 6 ай бұрын

I struggled to watch this having fitted a very similar roof last year, the suspense when you said it was the worst day brought it all back because I fell off and broke my neck. But great job and vids..

@startmaking1 6 ай бұрын

Ho wow. Your experience was so much worse than mine. I hope that you recovered from the fall.

@gregbaily7971 6 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Yes ok now, I got back up and finished the roof when the wife wasn't looking. Also did the rubber on a hot day and burnt my knees, hands, neck while fighting with the glue going off too quickly but I didn't spill it or break the roller ;-)

@startmaking1 6 ай бұрын

phew and well done for getting it done. I still think you won overall.

@jimmyreuben6919 9 ай бұрын

Really proud of you Mark for pushing through and getting it done, honestly I don't think I would have had the patience to carry on myself, cheers to you mate.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Jimmy. And in life I am not known for my patience. Must be the end goal spurring me on.

@christianwithers7335 9 ай бұрын

Very good result, love your honesty with embarrassment! You did well up there, I've been in that situation with epdm and worse, - with Sika two part floor resin, flip flop sticking to floor, resin on hands climbing over an assault course of stacked furniture and out through windows to avoid the floors recently done. 😂😂

@borisgulliver4970 9 ай бұрын

EPDM is wonderful stuff. Imagine doing a roof that size with tiles, or felt and then replacing it every few years!!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

wow that sounds awful. really awful. I had to chuckle at the windows comment. I once had n extension that backed onto a fenced in garden and varnished myself outside and had to hop the fence to get back inside the building. Happens to us all I guess.

@RogerHolden 3 ай бұрын

We were lucky enough to do the EPDM roof for a carport on a fairly typical May day. It was sunny so the radiant heat was enough to relax the rubber, but ambient temperature only in the high teens so no mental rush like you had!

@startmaking1 3 ай бұрын

I am very jealous. It is an amazing system and under good conditions I imagine a pleasant job to install.

@dougpark1025 9 ай бұрын

Even with the mistakes it looks like that roof came out very good. I'm not familiar with that type of roofing system but it seems like having the perimeter well secured with even a relatively spotty glue job will hold up really well. The build is looking pretty good so far. The unfortunate thing about roofing is the best time to do it is when it isn't raining, which means that it is probably going to be hot. The manufacturer of this system should go with a glue that works well on hot days. I'm sure you aren't the first person to run into that problem.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

You know what Doug, you are spot on. The roof system is so simple and take the weather out of the equation and it would have been a breeze. Even 5 degrees less would work. I know at the end that it is applied correctly but it could have gone worse and I would not have been able to fix it. so I do feel lucky. I will ask about other glues.

@fitzmyster2 9 ай бұрын

Excellent video, your honesty is really refreshing....just proves to me that I'm not the only one who makes mistakes with projects....thank you.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

We all do. even if you dont get shown them. I firmly believe that if I tried to hide my mistakes I would never get a video out and also would feel like a fraud. Thank you, .

@user-bf9nv7ld7q 9 ай бұрын

I got a sunburn just watching you. I worked doing insulation (blown in kind) and tarring roofs one summer, one summer only. Hot sticky tar, tar paper that ripped when walked on it to apply the tar coating. So, you showed real guts for completing that roof.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Wow, that does sound like a one summer deal. Like when I spend a summer picking strawberries. Sounded great in theory.

@ratinatrap7815 9 ай бұрын

I feel for you putting up the OSB sheets. I recently used 18 mm plywood for the roof of my shed self build.....boy was I glad when completed

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Gosh. I am not sure I could have lifted 18mm ones. The 12mm are heavy enough.

@georgeburnham2316 9 ай бұрын

Mate, we have all been there. Fair play for pushing through l and getting the result. Well done 😊

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you George. Honestly I feel lucky that just one more thing didn't go wrong, or the roller hadn't snapped on the first run rather than the last but one. Result that counts I guess. I can laugh at it now.

@georgeburnham2316 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 that is just another thing that I love about you and your channel is how relatable it is and how it inspire me to get started and 'start making! Have a great weekend

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

You too George.

@luctoulouse 9 ай бұрын

I love to see your progress. Well done.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thankyou Luc. Much appreciated.

@jimbryant2157 9 ай бұрын

I am in the middle of my own 'getting a shed watertight' project here in Arizona (current temp 38 C), so I understand the need to rush, unplanned events slowing down the intended order of operation, and physical pain (knees, back, and most importantly - heat exhaustion). Take it easy and slow, take breaks often, and don't overdo it (none of these pieces of advice were followed by me today....).

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Jim. I feel for you. That is a step above the temp here., Wow. You should definitely follow at least some of that advice ,And thank you for giving it. It is not in my nature to take care of myself and finishing the job feels more important when it is absolutely not. Im nearly there on the exterior now, I hope you are too. Good luck.

@CinkSVideo 9 ай бұрын

That’s really tough work to do by yourself. I’m truly impressed that you got the roofing membrane up there by yourself. You will be glad that you left the spaces between your decking sheets. Your roof is large enough that you could have developed raised area where the expand and butt up against one another. I highly suggest investing in a good pair of knee pads. Ones with a hard shell front. It simply makes kneeling down so much more comfortable. A cheap easy solution to make your life easier and take care of your body (knees).

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

wow thank you. I surprise myself some days. This was one. I did figure that the gaps would not hurt but a ridge would if they did expand. And I do wish I had gotten knee pads. Silly of me really. And I will for the flooring for sure. thank you.

@ploppythekangaroo 9 ай бұрын

Starting to look great. I built a workshop a few years ago and loved every minute of it. Enjoy the process.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Weirdly I am enjoying even the worst days. Its strange. Thank you.

@shaun30-3-mg9zs 9 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, considering the odd's were stacked against you, floor brush and the roller also a hot day ,you cracked it mate ,nice one after doing that I but you felt like saying ,come on give me what you got bring it on , I bet you were in full battle mode. And relax time for a nice cold drink, may be a burger! You have done very very well ,good job. doing the work at time's which was a two man job , you proved you can do it ,but not recommended some time's you got to do it. You are doing an amazing job on your new workshop ,keep it up mate take care👍

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

hi Shaun. Hope you are well. It was a bit of a day to be honest and at the end I sat in the building and took stock. Maybe not bring it on. More, give me a simple day or two with no issues to recover. But it really did feel ,like the top of a hill. Nothing else would test this much and I could take a stroll through the downhill jobs to the finish. Doors sucked mind you. Next week for that one. 2 people wold in all honesty do this build with relative ease. So many of the difficulties were number of hands related. You are right. Thanks bud.

@shaun30-3-mg9zs 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Well done mate👍your winning this one good job

@Bluuuz 8 ай бұрын

A great reminder that patience pays. Mind, I would have done exactly what you did and pushed on regardless. Probably without as much success. I love the moment towards the end where you are putting that last strip up and balancing it on the door, the clamps and I’m sure, your left toe if it would have reached. Very me. Great video and the workshop is looking the business. I’d be really interested to see where your thinking is going with regards to your workbench. That’s a project I’m planning/dreaming but I want it to do all things (even though I can’t do all things on it!). I have decided to build a separate station for a table saw to butt up against said workbench, when finally designed and built. I thought about integrating it but decided I’d rather have a decent bench and just wheel the saw into place when required. BTW, small cheap project you can do that (I) others would appreciate. Build a Hedgehog House. It’s the right time of the year to get them made and out there and I bet they’d sell well too. Just a thought Keep the videos coming.

@startmaking1 8 ай бұрын

Love the idea of hedgehog houses. I may need to do it next year around this time as most of my tools are still locked up until I can complete the electrical stuff and the interior painting. Man I hate painting. But once it is done and the tools are released I will be doing French cleat and a workbench. Wont be too long.

@dannyboy9817 9 ай бұрын

Good grief, considering the problems you encountered, I think you adapted extremely well and the end result looks superb. You've set quite a high bar now though for the interior fit out 😎. I think softwood (fir) plywood with "V" grooves made with a router to give a tongue and groove effect would look nice. Whatever you choose, it will look great going by your workmanship so far. Thanks for sharing this video along with the mistakes.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Danny. Much appreciated. I am a little concerned now for the interior as I have set myself a high expectation too and my winter job ramps up hours wise from 1st September so I am back to doing this 2 days a week max. that will drive me nuts. Love the tongue and groove affect. It may be a second step due to timing as I have to sound proof asap so ply to start with then something softer on top.

@jimrosson6702 9 ай бұрын

Mark hats off to you for doing this build Al by yourself I couldn’t imagine doing all that by my self amazing work everything looks amazing can’t wait to see it finished up inside and out. Thank for sharing your journey and taking us along for the ride.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Jim. It's definitely been more fun since this bit.

@chimairanl9043 9 ай бұрын

Doing almost all of that by yourself...much repect. It is looking great so far. Having 1 or 2 people to help would make it a lot easier. But doing things by yourself somehow make you feel even more proud.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

That is spot on. I am stubborn and am keeping the satisfaction for myself lol. And the pain,

@zapa1pnt 9 ай бұрын

Mark, another thought. A white reflective coating, for your black membrane roof, can save a lot of damage and money by protecting the membrane from UV and reflecting around 90% of the sun's heat. Such coatings became popular back in the late '90s and have improved and proved themselves over the years. Silver coatings came first and, themselves, heated up, passing the heat through, and damaging the roofing. I tried to insert an informational link but YT wouldn't have it. Do your homework and choose a product made to adhere to rubber membranes.😁✌🖖

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

That is a really good idea. I do wonder how it would affect neighbours with the sun reflecting off it at certain times. I will take a good look around. Thank you

@thesawwdustshop 9 ай бұрын

Way to push through the hard stuff! We learn the most from our mistakes.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. And you re so right.

@paulbrant-hl2xo 9 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, All I can say is you are/was a very lucky man, Normely we wait until we get an overcast day, You only learn by your mistake's or get the pro's in, The only thing that realy matter's is, You did not fall off the roof, Great job done, Brill video, If you ever need a job, I have one here waiting for you, Regard's : Paul B.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Paul, you are really very kind . I was so worried about 7 days of rain coming and one thing I left out is the day before I just had OSB sheets up and covered with a tarp, it rained over night and leaked in 5 or 6 places where the tarp had snagged on something. I panicked and seeing a dry day decided to get it on, worried the leaking would ruin my hard work. You are right though, I didn't get hurt, more than a few leg hair and layers of skin. And that is the bit that counts. one thing I will say is that I have a whole new respect for anyone doing this type of thing full time. My body even now is in pieces. It is not an easy job . Not close.

@adam-qf2vz 9 ай бұрын

Well Done.......Im doing a pitched roof on my big shed/small barn on my own.....it does make life slow and hard but its all do-able..... In my eyes your channel is growing exponentially from the start and this is due to you keeping it interesting and your relaxed style of presentation.....Cheers!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Adam. I would never have attempted a pitch roof. To me that is a skilled job compared to this. Well done. And you are right about the growth. It comes in peaks and troughs but feels like progress is being made. I often dont look at the numbers as I am still overwhelmed buy the support of the people. Mind blowing really. Thank you

@Younger1977 9 ай бұрын

That looked like a nightmare to do on your own and that is how I would do it, I struggle by myself and regret it after but I never learn 😂

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Exactly the same as me. Fun after the fact though.

@booyaa1851 9 ай бұрын

Really coming along, so jealous of your new shop. One day i will get mine.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

yes you will. when the time is right for your reasons., Mine was now or never and I am happy I jumped in. But last year would have been way too soon.

@yorkshirefazer 9 ай бұрын

love the vids. really like it when people show there mistakes and how they fix it. wish i knew you were doing this as i would love to have been able to help. keep making :)

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you and for the offer of help. Truth be told I have turned down a couple of kind offers, weirdly this feels like a rite of passage type of thing. hard to explain.

@yorkshirefazer 9 ай бұрын

fully understand that! i'm very keen on doing things myself and making my own mistakes. @@startmaking1

@petermitchell5459 9 ай бұрын

Should have asked you to build my workshop. My first cracking at it and well...yours has done me hands down

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Peter. It comes down to a lot of luck in my opinion. I could do the exact same build again and not make it anywhere near as good. But thank you

@petermitchell5459 9 ай бұрын

@startmaking1 Either way Mark..if I need to build a future workshop...you're hired

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. I may need a few years to recover lol

@davidarnott9740 9 ай бұрын

So encouraging to see someone as skilled as you dealing with challenges and errors. Thank you. Really looking forward to the next video. David.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. I hope the next one is less stressful to watch. It is live now.

@peterjohneggleton2011 9 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, I have a friend who bought a cheap and nasty spraygun and sprayed the glue on in seconds…. No rolling and it worked a treat. You could as us all if we have any tips for a perticular job before you do it…… might mean a bit less swearing. Anyway well done looks good. Cheers Peter.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Peter. That sounds like a really good idea. I am not sure the gun would do a second job as the glue is so rubbery, But then if it saves someone my journey then it is probably well worth it. Thank you

@peterjohneggleton2011 9 ай бұрын

Hi Mark, Just wondering if this is the router you got ? Makita router 18V LXT ® 6/8mm DRT50ZJX5 I didnt know there were so many different ones… Im like you got all Makita gear so…….. Oh bye the way, hows the build going?

@startmaking1 8 ай бұрын

Hi Peter apologies. This is the one that I have amzn.to/3RJGpn6

@Greyotterstudio 9 ай бұрын

Stresses aside - it’s looking good and it’ll be worth it when it’s all done! Are you planning on releasing a breakdown of costs once it’s complete? Would sure be interesting for those of us considering a similar project!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you.I will definitely do a comprehensive video at the end outlining costs and lessons learnt. PS the sign is a little delayed as I am on hols and didn't get to the post in time. It will come I promise. While I am remembering. there are 2 signs, the black one is the main one and I made one with off cuts. The off cut one is missing an s. Totally missed it. If it is a favourite of the 2 let me know and I will try and cut another and send it along too.

@Greyotterstudio 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 no problem! I’ve literally just got back from Menorca today so no worries, I look forwards to receive it - and seeing the outcome of the workshop series!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Oh lovely. Bet it was stunning.

@chrisb2443 9 ай бұрын

Oh man, I really feel your pain with fitting that rubber roof! Well done for persevering and getting it done. I had a slightly different process when doing mine. I rolled the rubber back to the middle of the roof like a roll of carpet, spread the glue a rollers width, rolled the rubber over that then repeated. So just putting about a foot of glue down at a time. I stayed on the rubber so I didn’t end up backed against the edge of the roof. My major mistake is I ended up with one of the seams/joins in the rubber bang on the edge of the roof which made it near impossible to fold over the edge for the trim. It was annoying as there was plenty of extra material to avoid this but I just didn’t spot it when giving the rubber time to relax at the beginning. I also didn’t give the contact adhesive on the perimeter enough time to tack off which meant bubbles kept appearing under the rubber for days afterwards. Thankfully it all flattened down after a while. I also broke one of the trims at the corner where it is folded over and stapled by banging the nail in too far and not allowing for the extra thickness. Got there in the end though.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Chris. Thank you. rolling is definitely the right way to go. Spot on. Oh, I didn't even consider the joints , that was a lucky touch. That would have finished me. I was also lucky as they gave me loads of extra trim and a pot extra of each of the glues. So much left over. As for the contact adhesive, well I had the opposite issue. Still a couple of bubbles, maybe 3 about an inch in diameter but I will take that.

@archilieven 9 ай бұрын

Roofs can get really cold, even during clear summer nights. If you want to insulate the roof, I can only advise you to put a really good and perfectly tight vapor barrier under the insulation. Otherwise you risk to get a lot of condensation underneath the rubber membrane. Just some free advice from an architect. Otherwise good job and good luck with the rest of the project! Will be nice to have a place like this!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

All advice is welcome to this novice. Thank you. Can I please ask. I was planning on putting foil insulation, the 50mm kinsman directly under the roof with foil tape all around it. then an air gap. Then rock wool probably 75mm. do you think that this is enough.

@Robbie-fq9zr 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1I’ve just completed my build and I had a 50mm gap under the osb then 100mm kingspan insulation. Then a green plastic vapour barrier. With vented soffits front and back. Allowing air flow in the 50mm air gap. Just check your air flow is sufficient. Looks good

@archilieven 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 The risk is that warm air will travel through the insulation, the warm air will cool down and the moisture in the air will condensate. So you want a perfectly tight vapour barrier underneath the insulation to prevent the air from entering in the first place. I have never used foil insulation. If it was my built I would fill the space between the rafters entirely with rockwool and than put a good plastic vapour barrier underneath the rafters.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you guys for the advice. Very much appreciated and I am currently replanning.

@gojufish 9 ай бұрын

Best video yet.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Legend

@michaelwillson6847 9 ай бұрын

M8 looking amazing. A remeber that period of hot weather god wish would come back. Am sick of being soaked. Its coming together really nicely. Youll be itching to get in get it kitted out and get going again. Oh that is when the sparky decides turn up!! Ps we've all had those days just wanna stop yhe whole lot!! I certainly have anyway. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

hey bud. Thank you as always. Swings and roundabouts isnt it. We are either too hot to function or so wet we are miserable. What a strange summer it has been. Fingers crossed the sparky is back from holiday in a week or so. Probably when I am back at work and then the interior will have to be done painfully slow. All good though.

@michaelwillson6847 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 yea your right there either roast or soaked one or the other. Yea fingers crossed sparky gets it done quick So u can get set up and get back to doing what u enjoy doing and in bigger space hopefully it'll come together nice and quickly. Shop projects await! Both of us!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

@YesiPleb 9 ай бұрын

Love this build, going to be doing something similar myself in the new garden when we move. Half the width but just under twice the length. Long shed with a summer house stuck on the end with a greenhouse on the end outside. Thanks for this series, really interesting to see how everything is unfolding and I can't wait for the next video as I'm sure loads others are as well.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi. I don't think it is everything. I think I fixed the issue and the newest recordings which are the voice over should be in stereo. Some of the older bits when I am mid build may be a little one sided but not many. Please check and let me know as i am at a loss if it is all of it.

@philipwilliams8114 9 ай бұрын

You’re your own worst critic lad. All good. Bet the beer tasted nice at the end of roofing day!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

I really am. And it really did lol.

@tattyman4191 9 ай бұрын

Excellent video. Going to watch the whole set now.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I hope you enjoy my pain. It is apparent most of the way through. lol.

@tattyman4191 9 ай бұрын

Yeah I probably would have made the same/similar mistakes if I was doing this job. To be honest, I would problem make the same mistakes after watching this video😂. You tend to get lost in the moment sometimes and forget about common sense. I don't know if you have mentioned already the cost of the build, if you want to mention the cost that is. Anyway, keep up the good work

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

I will definitely do a review video at the end with all costs and learnings. Savings etc. I definitely get caught in the moment. It is all encompassing.

@tattyman4191 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 brilliant look forward too it. Are you a woodworker/joiner/carpenter by trade?

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

No, a woodworker by hobby and passion.

@Toots8888 9 ай бұрын

Looks great. “Glued your knee to the roof” 😂 ✨👏🏻✨the honest mistakes are part of the journey.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Man I wish I was exaggerating too. I had spilt some and as it was curing so fast, I accidentally knelt in it and it finished curing while I was spreading some of the other areas. Then when I came to move, as I was rushing I didn't even think about it, just jumped up and lost all the hair from one side to the other and there was more than a little swearing. funny looking back now.

@Toots8888 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 shame you didn’t fill it too 😂😂

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

absolutely.

@jimadams6159 9 ай бұрын

I think you have done a fantastic job and I admire your for pushing through. You should be very proud of what you have achieved. Really enjoying the channel, keep up the great work.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Jim. Very much appreciated.

@RpR_Makes 9 ай бұрын

Mark 100% respect to you. You laid this roof as most of us DIY weekend woodworkers would do. On our own (because we are all supermen). Not prepared, no PPE and in the wrong weather. Oh yes and we never listen to our wives when they tell how should do it😂😂😂

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

That comment leaves nothing for me to disagree with. Nothing at all. Love it , Thank you.

@Cobra-vq6qr 9 ай бұрын

My wife is a master of the "I told you so" facial expressions 😅

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

No comment. lol.

@its_marc 9 ай бұрын

Done a few rubber roofs myself, only 8x8 maximum hut sizes but feel most of your pain! Does look great though, and the significantly longer life span will make it worth it in the end!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

I have to agree. The longer life was a deciding factor for me and to be honest, I am not sure that any roof covering would have been easy on that hot a day. And looking back to get it done and down in 30 mins did free up a fair bit of time lol

@pitsnipe5559 9 ай бұрын

Full marks for powering through despite the setbacks. In my experience the accessory kits that come with DIY products are generally cheap quality. I usually just by the same stuff of better quality. Shop looks good!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, that is good advice. I was tempted in as my tools are all locked away. It was also Harris brand who are usually ok. Never mind, end result counts . And thank you.

@PaulO-mv6ku 9 ай бұрын

Great effort and love the honesty

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

thank you Paul. Much appreciated.

@ianpearse4480 9 ай бұрын

Cool share and some great advice. Cheers.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

thanks Ian. Much appreciated.

@EvanDunville 9 ай бұрын

The shop is coming along great. I have definitely been there when nothing is going right and you have a time pressure. Never fun!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Evan. It is doing well. thankfully, Still a way to go on the interior but it will get there. I do feel like this video was the top of the hill I was climbing so to speak.

@59chris1 9 ай бұрын

Well done bud 👍

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Chris.

@riccardo-964 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your mishaps

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Always welcome. They will always be shown as far as I am concerned.

@chrisruss4979 9 ай бұрын

Great to see the roof on, no doubt feels like a proper building now. Never seen this type of roof overlay before, does not not risk perishing or is it some sort of special or treated rubber ? I think I would certainly called in reinforcements for fitting that soffit board, so many times up and down that ladder. All looking great !

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Chris. It really does. I think it is treated. It is stated to last 50 years where Asphalt is something like 30. The last soffit was ridiculous. It was like a carry on sketch. I really was there for over 30 mins.

@chrisruss4979 9 ай бұрын

Spot on, still standing long after us then !@@startmaking1

@timothyroper1897 6 ай бұрын

very helpfull vidio, your frustrations are normal to most jobs. thankyou for your info.

@startmaking1 6 ай бұрын

very true. And thank you for watching

@drewlittler6794 7 ай бұрын

I can empathise with what you did. I've messed up a bunch of things by powering through after something broke or went wrong - far worse than if I'd taken a breather and regrouped later (or the next day). I've got better at stopping and taking a break when things go wrong now. Just turn the lights off and walk away for a bit. Not always an option when you're against the clock though.

@startmaking1 7 ай бұрын

That is great advice though and after these lessons, I hope I can go against my nature and stop.

@Cobra-vq6qr 9 ай бұрын

Flip your blade backwards in your circular saw to cut plastics and such. Score your mark with a utility knife and let it eat.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

really?. Ok, I have to try this right away. What a clever idea. Thank you.

@RooferReilly 3 ай бұрын

im a full time flat roofer, try doing felting in a 30degrees summers day haha, and oh yes rubber roofs you cant kneel on them on a hot day you will only do it once haha! also that side soffit, you normally 45 the last one then you continue going short pieces as you was on the front, dont put it in a big length.

@startmaking1 3 ай бұрын

I can still feel my knee on the rubber. Not fun. Thank you for the advice on the soffit. Makes a lot of sense. I should have researched this better to be honest.

@ynot6473 7 ай бұрын

you did the roof in the right conditions for the rubber, but you needed another person to get the glue down quicker. you need a bigger hat for that weather, and i hope you took on plenty of water. a good result, be proud of your achievment.

@startmaking1 7 ай бұрын

All true and correct lol. It certainly went quickly.

@ynot6473 7 ай бұрын

BTW, i'm for to old and clapped out to do what you've done.@@startmaking1

@inlandwoodandresin 9 ай бұрын

I recently finished a lean-to playhouse for my daughter and used a peel and stick asphalt shingle. Long story short, I have NO future as a roofer, and I now know why they charge so much. My knees and hands were so burnt I had to cool off with a hose.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Oh no, I thought at the start of the comment you were about to say it is the easiest one of all. We are in the same boat it seems. I have no future making anything larger than a small chest of drawers from now on I think. I respect construction workers so much right now. It Is hard work.

@paulmaryon9088 9 ай бұрын

Great video thank you, would be very interesting to know the final build cost, have subscribed, looking forward to the next exciting episode!

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Paul. I will definitely do a review at the end to include all costs and the best tips and ways I could have saved money and pain.

@leedennisjohnharris8910 9 ай бұрын

Your doing really well fair play Only tip to you is use a paint roller extension saves your knees up and down can do longer runs too when I done my first was the same as you but I learnt very quickly KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Lee. And rest assured, that will be one of the first bits of advice in the review video at the end. My knees still ache when I look at the roof.,

@reedyrod 9 ай бұрын

Its looking good now mate. If you do it all again after the rubber has relaxed roll it as opposed to folding makes it easier. And you won't get so many bubbles to roll out. Allso invest in kneepads having spent about 20 years of my life screeding floors and plastering knees suffer. Another good tool is a few beer or milk crates and a few planks, saves all that stretching and working above your head. Better than trying to use a ladder for everything. After seeing all that cutting to fit to joists you can see what i meant about putting the first joist to suit sheet length and then work 400s back and forwards from that. Saves cutting sheets and waste. And you've got it all again when you do the ceiling and internal walls. Before you do the ceiling make yourself a T piece to support one end while you fix the other end or hire a board lifter. I assume it will be osb again at least thats a lot lighter than 8x4 half inch plasterboard that i was used to. And dont forget your vapour barrier all round before you board everything.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Oh you are so right. Great advice. Rolling the rubber would have been smart. Kneepads are the biggest regret of the entire build too. I totally understand about the 400mm to centre now too. This will make me cross during the interior and your words will ring in my head. But, it will be great advice to give in the review video at the end I guess. I love the T support idea. As I will be doing it solo that will be priceless. May I ask about the vapour barrier. My plan was to go with 50mm kingspan foil lined insulation right up against the OSB roof sheeting, between the rafters, then a decent air gap and finally rock wool around 50mm before ply sheeting for the ceiling. If I foil tape the kingspan does this sound like it is about right or is there a better way that I can manage.

@reedyrod 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Ideally the air gap should be between the outside boarding and the insulation. What ever you use for insulation you still need a vapour barrier on the inside before your ply lining. Any moisture including your warm breath rises and will condensate on the first surface it finds and any moisture getting into the timbers or insulation will cause problems, ie rot or smells. Am i to assume the rockwool is to help deaden sound, yes should help softer sorces obsorb sound better. As for foil tape if your kingspan is not going to be level with the inside of your joists i dont see how it can help any thing. Back to air gap these days in the construction industry we put trays to stop insulation closing the gap from eaves to the cold side of our loft insulation unless its a warm deck roof, ie on top of rafters. Another tip when boarding ceiling use crates and a plank to stand on that keeps your head a couple of inches from ceiling and wear a hat. Your head makes a good third hand when fixing but the padding gets thinner with age.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Ah, brilliant. Thank you. I will readdress and plan the roof a little different once the electrics are in. Yes the rock wool is for sound. thank you for the advice.

@Tensquaremetreworkshop 9 ай бұрын

I regard 20deg as the minimum roof slope. The only flat roof that is not leaking is the one that is about to leak... Allows conventional roofing (membrane and felt tiles in my case, although I have used cedar tiles in the past). Yes, not easy when building is large and needs to keep under planning max. But there is an argument that long and slim is the best workshop space- the middle just attracts a large table that you have to walk around... Look forward to seeing what you are going to clad the inside with...

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

the slope is not an issue as far as Im concerned. With a single sheet of rubber there are very few places for water ingress. And I am absolutely planning on having a large table in the centre of the space. For filming and making it is by far the most practical choice for my needs and workflow. The inside is still being planned but it will be simple and easy.

@Tensquaremetreworkshop 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 My understanding is that rubber roofs need recoating every five years...

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

No, this has a 50 yr lifespan and needs little to no maintenance. The repairs are apparently easy for a DIYer.

@dazzalloydy 9 ай бұрын

Cant fault rubber for roofs its how I did mine and its expensive but quality is rest assured. P.s the glue for the 100mm atound the edges is awesome for repairing swimming pools. So is the rubber offcuts 👌👌👌 Keep the vids coming pal

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, great product and a great company. Great advice too on the pool patches. My dog ruins the sides on our so it is really useful advice. Thank you

@dazzalloydy 9 ай бұрын

Did u find that the texture was like an innertube from a push bike though, i was being really carefull with it 🤣 until u realise how tough it actually is

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Yes, exactly like that actually. Far more robust that I thought. I probably didn't need to sand the edges of the roof in fairness.

@Momijigari 9 ай бұрын

This was eye opening to me as I have never heard of this type of roofing. For what it is I think you did an admirable job. I'm curious how you came about deciding to use this type of roof over other types, such as asphalt. As for the weather, it seems to be quite bad all around the world. We here in California have also experienced sweltering heat and afternoon hot showers. I resorted to using shade cloth for part of my rear yard to shade the rear windows as the sun sets. Glad you didn't quit! I'm looking forward to watching what you accomplish next.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi. And thank you for watching . I had a lot of time waiting on planning consent to choose the roofing. Asphalt was my first thought but then I saw a build using this and it felt easier to apply. (weather aside), and I felt confident in the finish I could get around the sides. I was not sure I could get asphalt to look as professional with my little experience. That said, this is at least twice the price and getting it up on the roof to start with is a mission due to weight. I will go over all costs and benefits in a final video in a few months. But I will say that I made the right choice in my opinion despite the worst day. Weather wise, I have found this summer a little bonkers. The start of the build I did in 30 degrees thinking it would only get hotter and then it rained relentlessly for almost a month, with this baking day in the middle. crazy

@chimairanl9043 9 ай бұрын

These EPDM rubber roofs are more beginner/DIY friendly than the asphalt roofs that need a torch. Also less heavy probably. The asphalt rolls are about 35kg for 7.5 m2 I think.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

I think that you are spot on and once on the roof it was really easy to manoeuvre.

@phurst1358 9 ай бұрын

You’ve done a fantastic job of that out building, when I get a house this is one of the first things I’m going to do! A lot of work, enjoy the process🎉

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. It is actually a lot easier than I am making it look.

@phurst1358 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 🤣🤣🤣

@anthonygriffin3147 9 ай бұрын

Ffs😂😂 wot a carry on rkid did not give up tho proud of you lad belting vid as usual things go rong sometimes but it's not all the time

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

You're telling me. Quite the palaver. Still, result is what counts I guess.

@brucewelty7684 9 ай бұрын

danke mi amigo

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Very welcome Bud.

@jimbo2629 9 ай бұрын

You don’t get a practice run if you diy😀The alternative is to have the hassle of professionals who might just leave it half done for a while. A helper makes all the difference. It’s more than twice efficient.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

You are spot on. I have no doubt that professionals would have been far better at the job but I was worried about time scale and the cost to be honest. they would have stung me to bring all of the materials through the house.

@AnomalousDataPoint 9 ай бұрын

Great episode! Glad you got through the roof ordeal. Useful tips for me as well as I'm planning on the same rubber system. I am wondering about your door, is it normal height or custom? Assuming you're building to 2.5m

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. Ah yes, the door. That is next weeks video. Yes I am building 2.5m front down to 2.4m back. Maybe a few mm lower to account for my lack of skill. The door is way too low due to the size of header I put in above it. I could not get a door off the shelf as a result. Solution would be to either use a smaller header and then you can just squeeze a standard door in or do the sensible thing and put a door on the highest front wall.

@themeat5053 9 ай бұрын

Yes!! The Jersey!! which made getting the sheathing up there easier than if you hadn't worn it. For your first major build, you're doing a spectacular job! Next time, invest in a slap hammer (stapler) for the wrap. May I ask why didn't you use J channel to attach the soffits? They allow you to remove/replace the soffit tiles in the event you may need to do that for whatever reason. I use metal roofing for sheds and out buildings so that I don't have that problem; it's just a bit easier and just as water tight, in my opinion. But, who are you kidding, it's looking great! Also, I'm sure it will do it's job very well. All in all, it's great and welcome to the world of construction. It does get easier. Did you use stainless steel staples when you put those hospital corners on ( I know that's a butt-headed comment, but it is an exterior application)? Beautiful, I'm jealous.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Meat. That Jersey has some power. I think that it instills a calm in me that is not present usually. Means I dont throw my toys out of the pram when stuff breaks. I saw someone with that kind of stapler and was instantly jealous. Not only easier but looks cool to use. What is this J channel you speak of. I need to do a google. Hang on. Oh for goodness sake. That would have been so blooming handy, Im not kidding, I have never heard of it. Right, another thing for the review video at the end. Oh well. looked at metal and bitumen roofing and to be honest I think that you are right about the ease, here's the silly thing. When you walk down the steps into the garden you get a really good look onto the roof and I figured that the rubber would look nicer. Silly as that cost me about £500 extra. Still, it felt smart at the time. No comment you make is butt headed. you are like a Yoda of comments leading me. I still learn more in the comments section than anywhere else. The staples were stainless steel. Phew. And thank you.

@themeat5053 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Mark, it is a pleasure to see you learn and grow. You have a ton of talent. Frankly, I thought you were going to hot tar the roof; now, that would have been real Sh*t. That rubber sheeting is interesting. I've always been curious how much it expands and contracts with the weather. But, I'm sure some science guy has that all figured out already. You are an outstanding young man. Your parents raised you right and all of your family should be proud of you. Wow, do you realize how far along you've come just in your short You Tube career? As for cost, put it out of mind because this is something you are making for yourself and you want to be happy at the end. I wish there is something I could contribute to your project (even something as simple as a slap hammer). I not sure how to mail stuff internationally, but if there is a tool I could help you with, it would make me feel like I have a legacy to give it to you.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi Meat. Sorry for the late reply. Had a few days away with the family. I can't even imagine hot tarring the roof. I think I would still be up there stuck to it if I had tried that. Im with you on the expansion. I actually went up there a few days ago and it was still very pliable. It was a hot day, but there were no bubbles or any signs of movement. The contact adhesive is supposed to be for stopping it shrinking back from the edges in the winter. So we will see. I am like you, someone else smarter than me has said this is the way to go, so I dont need to prove that fact too. As for contributions, this is something I wrestle with daily, both from sponsors offering free tools etc (though nothing is ever free), and from fans of the channel, the truly free offerings. The reality is eventually there will have to be other directions that the channel goes in so that I dont live and die by KZfaq ads payments. But which way to go is the toughest choice because I dont want to start every video and end it begging for patreon members and such. I want to add value to everything and also I really dont want long term supporters to feel that their support is soon to be monetised as that would be wrong also. It is a fine line and between you and me, I would love to eventually not have this as a second full time job but decisions need to be carefully considered. Lot of waffle but let me be a little more concise. Thank you for the fact that you care enough to want to help and just know that being around the channel is more than I ever expected a year ago. Thankyou

@themeat5053 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 I hope you enjoyed your time away. My family and I have never really been able to vacation together; either because of military service or trying to run a business. My point is: take the time to let the kids know you are involved. I had five, each one and I have a different relationship depending on where i was in life. They're all good and productive young people, but ofttimes I've wondered how I could have done it better/more balanced. Anyway, now to the task at hand, as an old guy, I'll just say that I've seen a lot of things come and go. Hold on to what will, in the long term, provide for you and your family the best with the greatest degree of probability. There are a lot of KZfaqrs who did quit their full time gigs and I wish them well, but they have also sold out; this is one thing I am glad you recognize. I don't want to make this too drawn out, but I did figure out my dilemma, if you want a good hand tool try the Veritas site, tell me what you'd like (within reason) and I can order it and have it drop shipped directly to you. Remember, there are no free lunches. Godspeed.

@TootEmCarMan 9 ай бұрын

Glad you overcame those hurdles and you have ended up with a really good looking roof indeed. :) I wish I had been there to help you as I have helped build several rooves last year. If you ever do something similar, the plastic panels on the underside of the roof can easily be cut with score and snap with a sharp blade.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi. I would have definitely appreciated the help but man am I stubborn. Right of passage type of thing. good advice with the soffit. Sawing it was a pain. another comment mentioned a mental cutting blade in a jigsaw, that may be worth a look too.

@TootEmCarMan 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 A metal cutting blade will make a far better cut than a wood cutting blade but scoring and snapping is far quicker and is also easier to get a straight line. Give it a try on a leftover bit if you have some. :)

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Let the testing begin. Thank you

@TootEmCarMan 9 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 Will it be a video? lol

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Good idea. Well,... maybe.

@bhartissimo 9 ай бұрын

It was stressful watching you up on the roof, rushing to get the rubber sheet glued down, worrying that in the rush, you may end up hurting yourself. Thankfully, you didn't fall over the edge (my biggest concern). And I guess your knees have probably healed by now? Please, please, please, get someone to help if you ever do that again.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

I can imagine. And to be honest for that 30 mins I was on high alert of the area around me, even though, sped up it probably didn't look like it. Fully healed now, give or take and yes, this will not be a solo job if I ever have to do it again. And thank you for your concern. It is appreciated.

@daevidwilliamson1638 9 ай бұрын

im doing a build like yours now, use a hacksaw blade in a jigsaw cut from the back side go slow at the end and cuts like a dream, i use me 300mm speed square to keep the cut square.

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Hi. wow. I didn't think of that. that would have saved me a lot of hard sawing. Thank you. I will use that in the recommendations video at the end. Much appreciated. Good luck with your build. I hope you dont have a day as bad as this one was.

@daevidwilliamson1638 9 ай бұрын

im literally ordering me rubber for the roof today so this has helped as was struggling find the right place with the correct trim etc so very helpful video buddy. thanks ever so much and keep up the great work.

@daevidwilliamson1638 9 ай бұрын

oh and for larger square cuts i use little stair gauges and then a quick clamp, stay safe on them ladders 😉

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

Oh thats brilliant. So happy that this was helpful as intended. Honestly, the company was great. the gear is top notch and they refunded the accessories pack for me no questions. They have amazing how to videos on their page and drop me an email if you have any questions, well ones I may know the answers for. You probably have it covered though I am sure.

@zapa1pnt 9 ай бұрын

@@daevidwilliamson1638: Hi, Daevid. I would suggest Not using the supplied accessories pack (at least not the parts which failed Mark) and buy decent tools, if you don't already have them. You are sure to use them later.

@xani666 7 ай бұрын

I guess you discovered which tools to not save on :D

@startmaking1 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Double up on the roller next time.

@ianmurray3820 9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 Not really funny, especially when your tools let you down, usefull tip :- when I did myne also on a hot week during lockdown, I put a coat of pva on the roof the day before to seal it, and had no issues with the adhesive drying too quickly. I also had quality rollers with poles.!! I pop up there from time to time to check for damage but so far nothing and absolutely no leaks.. great vid - When you said your brush broke. I cringed - thinking you were about to poke a hole in the rubber..!!😱

@startmaking1 9 ай бұрын

No it's ok, looking back now, I can laugh. What a great idea coating the roof first. Great tip and one I will include in the review video at the end. I actually went there to take photos for the thumbnail yesterday and it looks good all over. There are a few air bubbles but Im not too worried. You know, the broom snapping when it did rather than at a more vigorous brushing moment is probably what saved the roof. And I will also remember to include this in the review as if the head had fallen off it would have definitely gone through. I did that to a paddling pool last year,