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The Tragedy of the AI Professor

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GatorEX

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@KC_Garcia
@KC_Garcia Жыл бұрын
When the text glitches to "You are challenged by the Paradise Protection Protocol!" for a brief moment, the text says "AI Sada/Turo has no intention of fighting any more!"
@GatorEX
@GatorEX Жыл бұрын
😔
@hunterhq295
@hunterhq295 Жыл бұрын
@@GatorEX Regarding the AI when you battle them they have the title Professor in their name during their dialogue so it's hinted they are taking on the original Professor's traits and personality when they become mad after having neglected Arven and drowned themselves in their research.
@shinybearevidra
@shinybearevidra Жыл бұрын
Honestly the glitching creeped me out, it was really well done.
@lugiamastero13
@lugiamastero13 Жыл бұрын
To add more to this right when the text begins to glitch it says Paradise Protection Protocol initiated!
@Trashman_Len
@Trashman_Len Жыл бұрын
The text changing was so cool
@nerobiblios4086
@nerobiblios4086 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the idea that the AI Professor had more concern and humanity than the original one.
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 Жыл бұрын
I love it too! I've always wanted a story where a clone of a person is made and that clone is a better person than the original!!
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, that Ai was more of a parent to that kid than his biological parents. Arguably more human than them as well.
@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean they suck as parents and are such awful people even the AI decided enough was enough. These really went out to get milk from Area Zero and never came back for Arven.
@harrymillar4193
@harrymillar4193 Жыл бұрын
@@DrawciaGleam02Just check like half the Gundam series - tonnes of clones in there XD
@kaizoisevil
@kaizoisevil 6 ай бұрын
@@DrawciaGleam02 Then you'll like the story of Jango Fett's clones.
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 Жыл бұрын
AI Sada was one the best plot twists in Pokemon S/V knowing that my boi Arven deserves all the hugs he can get dude has no more parents.
@kingjd9594
@kingjd9594 Жыл бұрын
more like one of the biggest in any game
@hunterhq295
@hunterhq295 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the AI when you battle them they have the title Professor in their name during their dialogue so it's hinted they are taking on the original Professor's traits and personality when they become mad after having neglected Arven and drowned themselves in their research. (Hinted that the one parent in each version left the other based on the notes you read) DLC hope they explain the plotholes of Area Zero.
@ElectroBlastLuigi
@ElectroBlastLuigi Жыл бұрын
I can relate to Arven. It made me cry more than I should've. Guys, please cherish your memories with who you're close with, anyone you love the most.
@boianko
@boianko Жыл бұрын
What I find interesting is the implication that the other version's professor does exist in both games, but walked out on Arven and his other parent due to some unspecified disagreement. My hope is that we'll get to see them in the DLC and maybe Arven will finally get some closure.
@KororaPenguin
@KororaPenguin Жыл бұрын
Shakespeare would have had a field day with the tragedy of the Professor.
@slimeycorp
@slimeycorp Жыл бұрын
If you want to make it sadder, the AI professor is actually dead too now. They needed to stay in the Area 0 Lab to survive, as the power of the crystals that the lab was literally made from was what was keeping them alive. In going to the future/past, they essentially sacrificed themselves to a somewhat-slow death in order to stop the human professor's plan. My little headcanon is that the professor's little speech before leaving was just to soften the blow to the kids, so they wouldn't know they would die.
@wonderfulrose477
@wonderfulrose477 Жыл бұрын
Wow, by the time she was bidding us goodbye I totally forgot she had said that when we first enter. That makes it even sadder, the fact the AI professor was able to gain some conscious and sympathy.
@kingteddieP4
@kingteddieP4 Жыл бұрын
I feel like turo is fine. He’s going to a future paldea I’m sure there’s plenty of Tera energy. Sada is dead tho which is unfortunate.
@ODSTD56
@ODSTD56 Жыл бұрын
@@kingteddieP4 Perhaps. The crystals could be there in the past, she would just need to find them in time.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
There's no reason to assume that the crystals don't exist in the past or future.
@oriondezagrats4228
@oriondezagrats4228 Жыл бұрын
Another way of looking at it, is that they become a little more human as well, as they now have a finite lifespan. Perhaps that is something they would welcome.
@MysteryMedia2001
@MysteryMedia2001 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s great that we now get to hand another “Congrats on being a terrible parent” badge to a Pokémon character. Ghetsis and Lusamine have a new club member!
@artemisblake3241
@artemisblake3241 Жыл бұрын
Two new members
@MysteryMedia2001
@MysteryMedia2001 Жыл бұрын
@@artemisblake3241 true. I also forgot about the founding member, Giovanni
@Rancor856
@Rancor856 Жыл бұрын
Every parent that lets their 10 year old children explore a world filled with super dangerous creatures that can kill you with just a thought: hold my beer
@vaiyt
@vaiyt Жыл бұрын
bad parenting is the true antagonist of the pokémon franchise
@Raigius
@Raigius Жыл бұрын
@@MysteryMedia2001 I think they meant 2 in that each version has a different equally bad professor. Both Sada and Turo are terrible parents.
@elin111
@elin111 Жыл бұрын
I also like that the ending scene isn't just cheery celebration, they acknowledge that the whole ordeal was pretty hard on Arven with him finding out his neglectful parent wasn't so much neglectful as literally dead for 4 years. The group and their respective bike lizard walking with sad expressions before Nemona tries to cheer them up is a pretty good bit of story telling given what they just went through.
@heroofmasks
@heroofmasks Жыл бұрын
They died shortly before the start of the game that's why u see your ride pokemon fleeing away from area zero depending on how long between the first day of school to the treasure hunt is how long they been dead. Been at least a few weeks.
@sleepy_swirls
@sleepy_swirls Жыл бұрын
I've always had this fan theory that the professor died recently, as it's said that the box legendary fled after the skirmish that killed the original professor, and we see it fly out of Area Zero at the beginning of the game. I'm still wondering if there's holes to poke into this because I don't remember much of the dialogue, but I like it as it's food for thought.
@dialgamor1548
@dialgamor1548 Жыл бұрын
​@@sleepy_swirlsNo it was only said the ride legend fled after losing a territorial dispute with the other of its kind. It's not actually said which Pokemon killed the professor, so there is room for it to be a different Pokemon. And we do know the prof stopped talking to Arven years ago. There is definitely possibility the professor has been dead much longer.
@heroepato
@heroepato Жыл бұрын
When the party leaves the final dungeon with an existential crisis.
@sckaze777
@sckaze777 11 ай бұрын
@@dialgamor1548no?? The game literally said the professors died protecting the losing lizard from the aggresive one
@WhiteRaven696
@WhiteRaven696 Жыл бұрын
The journals reveal that Turo left Sada in Scarlet and Sada left Turo in Violet. I think the best resolution Arven's story could have is reuniting with his living parent. And I hope that happens in some DLC or something.
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 Жыл бұрын
@Lynnisveryc★★l My older brother would call the police. His dad didn't even want him to be born.
@mudfishnick9768
@mudfishnick9768 Жыл бұрын
While I can't argue with the sentiment, I don't think that would work. The journals say "that man/woman left not long after the boy was born," meaning he was just an infant when they left. Even if Arven was successful in tracking down his other parent, they'd still be a complete stranger to him, and he to them
@boianko
@boianko Жыл бұрын
@@mudfishnick9768 They still left their kid with a nutcase who obsessed over the pokemon world equivalent of a 1900s adventure novel. They bear responsibility and I think they'd still have a lot to talk about.
@JoshioE110
@JoshioE110 Жыл бұрын
@Theultimateshitanimator you can create a dark story without swears. instead of swears, you get body language to show how frustrated he is.
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 Жыл бұрын
Technically, we don't actually have direct confirmation that the other professor is still Arven's other half parent. For all we know, Scarlet Arven's dad is just some bloke.
@rafazamigo
@rafazamigo Жыл бұрын
Arven's storyline and the professor's story, as we learn about it during the game, may be my favorite part of any Pokémon game, period.
@questionmarkquestionmarkques
@questionmarkquestionmarkques Жыл бұрын
on par with N for me (tied for favorite pokemon story)
@joshcoy6748
@joshcoy6748 Жыл бұрын
The rest felt ho-hum...no offense.
@MD-vs9ff
@MD-vs9ff Жыл бұрын
Hands down. Especially after the "I don't care about a single person in this game, especially this idiot who can't wait ONE GOD DAMN DAY to let his accomplice play with his brother and his friend" that was Sword and Shield.
@questionmarkquestionmarkques
@questionmarkquestionmarkques Жыл бұрын
@Bang me Chan i can feel the reddit emanating off this comment
@shuichisaihope398
@shuichisaihope398 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice "The Way Home" storyline never got a "complete!" screen? Like Victory Road and Starfall Street did get complete/congratulations screens for finishing the path so I think the DLC will finish the Professor's Storyline
@Adrian-ze9ud
@Adrian-ze9ud Жыл бұрын
Good theory!
@dk2157
@dk2157 Жыл бұрын
Or it could be symbolism to point out you never truly arrive home but the way home itself is a "home" already
@roboat76
@roboat76 Жыл бұрын
well the way home storyline is for koraidon as a way home, and we never really did go to koraidon's home, which is past paldea. So we never really did find the way home, but sada did.
@oliviahughes3158
@oliviahughes3158 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, we did get the credit sequence
@what.are.you.doing.stepbro
@what.are.you.doing.stepbro Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the third legendary who actually created the paradox pokemons had somehow influenced Sada/Turo’s mind to build the time machine. That’s why even the their own AI robot who has the same thought process can’t find logic in the original professor’s action
@MogamiKyoko13
@MogamiKyoko13 Жыл бұрын
I kind of loved how the whole Area Zero saga became like soft-core horror. The music was so eerie; it put me on edge the whole time I was progressing to the bottom. And the little bits in the journals at each Station added to the growing creep factor. By the time I came face to face with the AI Professor, I was questioning every interaction I'd had in the game 🫠
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma 7 ай бұрын
i start dancing every time i go down to area zero, they had NO reason to make the music go that hard
@madisonyomans9004
@madisonyomans9004 4 ай бұрын
It gave me ARG vibes as I read the different notebooks around the lab. Then see the the other one of the legendary of the game choose to watch you in the dark scared me.
@Taijirai
@Taijirai Жыл бұрын
I find it really interesting, the dynamic Game Freak made between Arven and his parent(s). Literally neither they nor their robot replicas made any time for him. Even the prerecorded messages gave him no comfort or closure. I was hit pretty hard by that and I still am. Poor Arven
@GatorEX
@GatorEX Жыл бұрын
I’m just glad we can least be friends and that Mabosstiff is okay
@knightshade2654
@knightshade2654 Жыл бұрын
I believe that the AI professor did care for Arven but only because of a realization of how isolated he was because of how the professor was so neglectful. For example, I believe that the AI’s statement that the professor did care for him was to make Arven feel better, and the ambiguous message earlier by Professor Sada?/Turo? Was also likely by the AI, judging by its speech.
@tully6648
@tully6648 Жыл бұрын
When that part of the story hit in Violet, I was like "Everybody left and man was so busy he made a literal copy of himself and NEITHER OF THEM took care of that kid." I was so mad.
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 Жыл бұрын
Not entirely true. Arven got emails for a while, and there was a time where he and his parent lived with the legendary in the lighthouse together.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
@@tully6648 The AI couldn't though. They couldn't leave the crater. And the professor didn't so much make the AI because they were busy, they made the AI because they were paranoid and found that nobody else could be trusted
@cookiecutter5176
@cookiecutter5176 Жыл бұрын
I was so sad when I saw this. I just kept saying to myself: "What on Earth am I gonna tell Arven?"
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Before following the AI to the elevator I ran back outside and tried to find Arven. I was very disappointed that I couldn't find him.
@ItsDangerX
@ItsDangerX Жыл бұрын
“Farewell, my free adventurers! I bid you adieu!” Kinda best scene + line in the game
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
But COMPLETELY HEARTBREAKING
@theginkgo
@theginkgo Жыл бұрын
It's still so fascinating to me how they basically had an entire story revolve around a character with literally _no_ screentime and somehow made it the best one they've had so far. "The plot is built off of two characters: the professor and the professor" summarizes everything pretty perfectly.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 17 күн бұрын
@@theginkgo And when we meet them in the DLC, we still don't meet them, because they're from another timeline.
@blizzwiz833
@blizzwiz833 Жыл бұрын
I recently beat scarlet and the ending was one of the only parts I wasn't really spoiled about, so seeing the entire plot with AI Sada was something I hadn't seen in Pokemon. I'm glad the game didn't just end with becoming the champion and instead left us with the ending we have now.
@clublazy9468
@clublazy9468 Жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is she is wielding the Pokémon that killed her original self. She’s practically wielding her own murderer
@averyadkins9600
@averyadkins9600 Жыл бұрын
Okay so fun fact feminine version of past in Spanish is pasada and the masculine version of future in Spanish is futuro.
@skell6134
@skell6134 3 ай бұрын
Overall region is quite spanish so not surprising really
@MegaMaster1021
@MegaMaster1021 Жыл бұрын
The AI being the good guy and the professor being the antagonist is refreshing but I wouldn't call them the bad I think they were being influence by the third legendary
@GatorEX
@GatorEX Жыл бұрын
I think a big thing about the human Professor is that we just don’t meet them, so we can really say they’re a villain. All we have to go off of is the result of their actions, so yeah, definitely very interesting. Wonder if we’ll find out more about them.
@hunterhq295
@hunterhq295 Жыл бұрын
@@GatorEX Well the AI finds no logic in bringing in pokemon from other eras that can disrupt the balance of the natural ecosystem. It's bad enough people develop the natural landscape and leaving pokemon with fewer habitats but there's the adding of invasive species from different times where they may end up confused and go wild in the modern world while also damaging the unique balance of the current era.
@boianko
@boianko Жыл бұрын
@@hunterhq295 It's because it's purely an emotional decision. The professor wanted to recreate this fictional world they were obsessed with as a child, when in reality, if the imagination theory about Paradox Pokemon is true, that world doesn't actually exist. So the only thing they could do was try to turn our world into that imagined place through destroying the current one. An AI thinks logically, so it can't see the benefit of doing this, as the world the Professor wants won't ever become a reality no matter how many paradox pokemon they flood Area Zero with.
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 Жыл бұрын
The evilness of the real professor is debatable, but the ai does imply they wouldn't care about the wanton destruction caused by the Paradox Pokémon.
@dialgamor1548
@dialgamor1548 Жыл бұрын
​@@boiankoI wouldn't call it purely emotional as much as a complete obsession. Because there is no emotional consideration given to the lives of other Pokemon and even people. It was both logically and emotionally cold and short-sighted. Something was totally wrong with the prof. They became a mad scientist really.
@selfboredom3025
@selfboredom3025 Жыл бұрын
AI Sada disagreeing with the human professors goals actually inspired me to write an entire alternate universe fan fiction series just exploring what kind of life she would lead if she did get out of Area Zero and it's just major wish fulfilment just giving Arven the good parent he deserves
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
PLEASE SHARE THIS. I love stories like that, dealing with Arven having a real relationship with the AI, and the AI having their own...well not "life" since they're not a living being, but being able to find happiness. I've written a few myself if you look at my community tab
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 17 күн бұрын
i have amended this. The AI is totally a living being. Porygon are alive and they're just ducks made of code. Anyway what is your story called?
@TheMegaultrachicken
@TheMegaultrachicken Жыл бұрын
When the robot is actually the one who realizes what is going on is wrong you know the actual human professor is messed up.
@GageX
@GageX Жыл бұрын
i cant believe they used the whole "the real treasure was the friends we made along the way" as a plot theme and it works lmao
@charliemay3804
@charliemay3804 Жыл бұрын
So we can all agree that Arven’s the main character right?
@dannykazari
@dannykazari Жыл бұрын
Arven and Lillie from SM have a lot in common, but Lillie's ending was much happier.
@claran3616
@claran3616 8 ай бұрын
And N, don’t forget the trifecta
@mewdreamer
@mewdreamer Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing some fan art about Arven's relationship with the professors, so I thought that effectively spoiled them as the twist villains of the games. But then I got to Area Zero and found out about the AI Professor. I was so happy that I didn't learn the truth ahead of time and I was able to experience the this storyline relatively spoiler free. Finding out that the professor was dead this whole time was such a brutal twist, especially for poor Arven. While the real Professors might not have been villains exactly, the fact that they went so far to protect the time machine gave me the impression that they were completely blinded by their obsession with the past/future. Nothing and no one else mattered to them by that point. I didn't think that the ending felt incomplete, but I did think that they glossed over Arven's grief a bit too quickly afterwards. It's possible that the AI Professor could appear in the DLC or more likely that the time machine still has some effects on Paldea since I would assume we'd get some more Paradox Pokemon at least.
@jo-ri-oh8950
@jo-ri-oh8950 Жыл бұрын
It was said that the AI was built with the same mindset as the professor. At the end, the AI tells Arven how much it liked and its proud of him. It wasn't the AI feeling but the professor's ones to his/her son. I find it really interesting cause despite the fact that the AI is the exact same as the professor, it cannot understand his/her mindset of letting the Paradox destroy the Paldea ecosystem. It really shows how the professor became insane to the point he/she's unrecognizable
@Gina_Silverrain
@Gina_Silverrain Жыл бұрын
I think the original professor lied. I think it didn't give all memories to the AI and left a crucial yet painfull part out of the AI's memory. For example, the other parent that left or information about the legendary from the DLC. This pain/knowledge shaped the original professor in a way that the AI cannot understand.
@hamdepaf6686
@hamdepaf6686 8 ай бұрын
Another thing to note is the AI saying "so I understand better than any, your mother/father truly loved you" basically admitting that they themselves love Arven. I think that the reason the AI didn't tell Arven the truth earlier and went to the past/future is that they where scared, scared they could not replace the parent Arven lost and also scared of Arvens rejecting it. Basically they ran away. Throughout the whole dialogue the AI avoids speaking to Arven directly and whenever it does, the game doesn't show it's eyes, something typically used in media to show people hiding their emotions. I don't think the original professors where evil and the AI is basically mirroring a version of them that wasn't consumed by ambition, obsession over their dream and probably also grief of their lover abandoning the dream they probably shared. The difference between the games is probably what the professors choose to focus on, past or future, something either professor is more personally invested in, leaving the other with a more neutral view of the situation, eventually realising how much this obsession is consuming them, eventually making them walk out on the project.
@RayRayRay4547
@RayRayRay4547 Жыл бұрын
I saw a thumbnail with the Crystalized Professors while I was still playing the main story. I thought the Crystals were like the chordyceps virus and was controlling them. Suffice to say, I was pleasantly surprised and relieved to not have been spoiled cuz I’d been trying SO hard to stay spoiler free and had done a relatively good job up to that point.
@Latency345
@Latency345 Жыл бұрын
What I find interesting in Scarlet and Violet is the repeated motif of “Things you treasure”. What treasure to be exact? Riches? Achievements? Friends and Loved ones? Doesn’t matter, the story is centred within this one theme. To find and protect that which you treasure. A dream. But what happens when a dream goes too far and becomes an obsession? Case in Point is Professor Sada and Turo. They want a world where ancient/future pokemon coexist with modern Pokémon. They do their work faithfully and achieve it. However what are the consequences of this? Paldea’s ecosystem being endangered, People being put at risk, Their son neglected and grew up with no parent. Their dream has achieved great things and has made the impossible possible. But it has reached a point where anomalies are now being created. The Professor acknowledged this and brushed it off as natural selection. Is the AI our enemy? No, it’s our ally and sees the wrong in the Professor’s action. Is the Paradise Protection Protocol our enemy? No, it’s just a program that can’t think on it’s own. Is the Professor our enemy? No. They weren’t malevolent but was a danger. Scarlet’s and Violet’s true enemy is none other than that which you treasure most. A dream. Everyone has dreams, whether they are within reach or not doesn’t matter. Our friends in game have dreams of their own. Nemona dreamed of a rival to match her. Penny dreamed of a school with no bullies for her friends. Arven dreamed of his parents coming home one day and be a parent for once. The enemy was not the Professor, but the dream that they held dear. The disk pokemon down in Area Zero could have amplified that obsession, but it could never have planted the seeds that grew into this.
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Creative writing lessons drill into the importance of theme, but you almost never really see how theme plays into stories. Scarlet and Violet is a shining example of why theme is needed. The theme of treasure is such a great driving force behind everything and connect s everything beautifully. In this essay, I will. Sada/Turo losing sight of the treasure that is their son, Arven treasuring Mabostiff so much he pursures legends and myths to heal him, Penny and the Team Star bosses treasuring their bonds very much, Geeta's whole thing about the Champions being Paldea's greatest treasure, the gems of Area Zero and Terastal Phenomenon, and the player desperately seeking the "treasure" in so many different areas but realising in the end that the true treasure is the bonds they made with Arven, Nemona, Penny, Koraidon/Miraidon and their Pokémon along the way. It's really inspiring me to put more effort into finding a theme in my writing, now that I have an example to guide me. This and Chicago.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
The professor still knew about the destruction their plan would cause and went ahead anyway, dismissing it as being simply a part of life. And yet if destruction is such a natural thing, then why did they interfere with the dragons? Why give their life to save one if destruction is inherent to existence?
@kieran7251
@kieran7251 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the opposite professor being introduced in the dlc. Who says Turo is dead in Scarlet and that Sada is dead in Violet?
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 Жыл бұрын
I could definitely see that happen. However, they were still absent in Arven’s life if that was the case. Oh they could try to make up and start over but, as far as he’s concerned, Arven’s true family were Mabosstiff and the AI professors.
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 Жыл бұрын
Who says they even exist? We technically have no direct confirmation that Sada/Turo are Arven's other parent. For all we know, Scarlet Arven's dad is just some bloke.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 Жыл бұрын
@@bessieburnet9816 Yeah. Plus, it’s weird that they didn’t even take custody of Arven.
@wonderfulrose477
@wonderfulrose477 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherbennett5858 it’s stated the other parent left shortly after Arven was born as the professor became obsessed with their research.
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 Жыл бұрын
@@wonderfulrose477 Makes sense but that still begs the question of where they are.
@LucarioShirona
@LucarioShirona Жыл бұрын
This is defiantly an ending that leaves you a bittersweet feeling. Fairly rare in a Pokemon Game that makes you feel this way, BW and SM are very closeto giving that same feeling but Scarlet and Violet really makes you feel this way, as if you feel like you might have failed. They brilliantly have you connect with the A.I. despite the little time you have with it, and to see it go makes you feel bad for not just the A.I. but also Arven as well.
@CB_W0lf
@CB_W0lf Жыл бұрын
I love the whole concept of the ai professors. I got a little choked up when Sada went through the time machine. What freaks me out a little is that the Paradise Protection Program uses the Koraidon/Miraidon that supposedly caused the death/killed the living professor. Like, we had to stare down a pokemon capable of causing death, and it even says "running away would put everyone else in danger!" Like, it WOULD kill us, if we didn't have our own bike lizard. The fact that the Program uses that pokemon regardless of its crimes is interesting too.
@moonbased7796
@moonbased7796 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Sada/Turo (depending on the version you play) definitely are my favorite professors in a long time (before it was Juniper since she felt like a motherly figure to you and your friends in all of the gen 5 games) and honestly. If we do get DLC, regardless if we do see the AI professor again or not, would be cool if they bring them up regardless so we can learn more about them.
@lightdarksoul2097
@lightdarksoul2097 Жыл бұрын
I like that Juniper was one able to debate against N
@moonbased7796
@moonbased7796 Жыл бұрын
@@lightdarksoul2097 true
@christopherbennett5858
@christopherbennett5858 Жыл бұрын
Same. Just so they can be the parents Arven deserves.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
@@christopherbennett5858 I would love that but I feel almost like that would defeat the purpose of the story. I do want the AI to return and I do want them to have a good relationship with Arven though. And if it would be a parent and child relationship then it would have to be something that develops on its own rather than as a substitute for the professor
@JadeTheProtogen1
@JadeTheProtogen1 8 ай бұрын
I'M FROM THE FUTURE! HERE TAKE THIS BOOK! TAKE IT TO THE KITAKAMI CRYSTAL POOLS! YOU'LL MEET SOMEONE THERE! HAND THIS TO THEM AND THEY'LL TRADE IT FOR THEIR SCARLET/VIOLET BOOK! THIS IS A TIME LOOP! YOU NAMED THE WINGED KING AND IRON SERPENT!
@KnightsofGaming2016
@KnightsofGaming2016 Жыл бұрын
What made me stay up at night thinking about is where the remains of the Professor are. Are they buried in the rubble near where we meet the AI professors as a sort of makeshift burial? Or were they just left somewhere to be eaten by the wildlife in Area Zero? Not to mention, they were still slightly alive before passing away so imagine them thinking about Arven and their regrets as they slowly succumbed to their injuries... Sorry for such a dark comment idea. I know Pokemon wouldn't show an actual corpse, but it's still something to think about...
@TDIdialgagirl
@TDIdialgagirl Жыл бұрын
One of my friends said Miraidon/Koraidon ate the professor She's "that" friend
@Kahtisemo
@Kahtisemo Жыл бұрын
I've honestly thought about that too. And worse the idea of those last moments when it finally hits them, they have no one. They died out there where no one could reach them. Where no one even knew they were gone. The AI would keep things going, meaning it could have been months or even years before anyone even thought to look for them had the AI not had enough conscience to reach out for help. If they had thought of Arven, was it with regret? With fear if he'd be okay? With sorrow that he may never know what happened to them? Or was it just selfishness to the end, dying with the thought how they'd never get to see their dream realized because of this foolish bitter end?
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
If they were hit by Tera Blast it's possible that they were consumed by crystals and are in the giant crystal inside the fourth station.
@claran3616
@claran3616 8 ай бұрын
I mean I ASSUME they were buried somewhere?
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma 7 ай бұрын
i saw a comic where the AI sent professor turo's ashes to the future, not quite sure how it would have cremated him down there but it was a sweet concept
@bravewater5737
@bravewater5737 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna give the AI Professors a hug.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Same
@hawkfeather6802
@hawkfeather6802 Жыл бұрын
It's a little creepy to think when we go to the wrecked research center,the original professor's body is somewhere inside.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Either they're inside the crystal (if the fatal blow was Tera Blast) or the ai buried them somewhere
@tedscheett9420
@tedscheett9420 Жыл бұрын
There has never been a character that I have wanted to give a hug to more than Arven. Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING about him is tragic. How do you think he got his culinary skills? He had to eat, and since his parents weren't present, he would have to teach himself. But like any kid, he wanted to see his parents, and when he did, his best friend, Mabosstiff was mortally wounded, possibly by Terapagos, but I don't know. He looks at Koraidon/Miraidon with disgust because in essence, they are a reminder of his parents work, and Mabosstiff's injury. He does the one thing he can do in a desperate attempt to save his best friend, make food. And through his love and care saves his only family he has left. But as if the game didn't kick him down enough still... his parent comes asking for his help. When he finally sees them, it's not even them. It's just a robot wearing their face. But this shadow of his parent expresses thier pride in him, before being overtaken. GOD, man, let me give Arven a hug! He's suffered enough! At least let him meet N or Guzma so they can tell him everything will be alright!
@autismandgaming4532
@autismandgaming4532 Жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget my favourite part of the storyline... The part where you get sued by ed sheeren
@RyanNerdyGamer
@RyanNerdyGamer Жыл бұрын
I’m curious as to whether the opposite version Professor appears alive and well in the DLC (Turo in Scarlet/Sada in Violet), perhaps as part of an expedition team alongside Nemona’s parents, who are also strangely absent in the base game… 🤷🏻‍♂️ Ooh, and imagine if Heath is revealed as Penny’s ancestor! Now, _that’d_ be an interesting way to include all three of the player’s friends and classmates. 🤔 The only other thing that comes to mind is that Raifort could be the one to set the player on-course (pun not intended), and is revealed as a colleague of one or both professors, which could make her Arven’s legal guardian in their absence… well, other than his good boi Mabosstiff, of course. 🐾
@thepokemonqueen
@thepokemonqueen Жыл бұрын
since the other professor walked out on arven when he was a baby, I think it's entirely possible that they could reappear in the dlc, but I wonder if that would feel like artificially extending arven's story if that makes sense. I liked the ending and it felt natural, so bringing back the other parent might alter that 🤷🏻‍♀️ but it would be funny to see arven chew out his other parent for leaving & reappearing with no notice 😂
@kingkmtso5107
@kingkmtso5107 Жыл бұрын
Nah I think Heath is the ancestor of Clavell
@RyanNerdyGamer
@RyanNerdyGamer Жыл бұрын
Homer: “Arven saved his dog, but didn’t save his parent… is this a happy ending or a sad ending?” 🫤 Marge: “It’s an ending, that’s enough.” 🤷🏻‍♂️
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 11 ай бұрын
Well now we have Briar and oh god
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 11 ай бұрын
@@thepokemonqueen Would Arven even know his other parent by name?
@imheretomakeyoucringe7950
@imheretomakeyoucringe7950 8 ай бұрын
Arven is so traumatized. Nearly cried for him every time he spoke. He needs a hug.
@nerd_world8919
@nerd_world8919 Жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the best storylines in a Pokémon game yet. When telling a friend about the story they couldn’t believe Pokémon would tackle such a heavy topic as the lost of a parent & abandonment. When playing it and heading deeper into the crater I got to the point of being like “I have a bad feeling about this…” but I never suspected Sada & Turo were AIs.
@KABIGON4445
@KABIGON4445 Жыл бұрын
This game do have moments that makes us cry
@Sak23017
@Sak23017 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Arvin's other parent is still alive as one of the books stated that I am just hoping that the other parent does meet Arvin
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Yeah but it still means they walked out when Arven was an infant
@meta527II
@meta527II Жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart to know that we never actually saw Professor Sada, and that she was dead all along. Really hurts to hear this about one of the best Paldean waifus.
@OYJluv
@OYJluv Жыл бұрын
I cried... i cried a lot.
@kingkmtso5107
@kingkmtso5107 Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@conwool2609
@conwool2609 Жыл бұрын
Hey, she could be in the Violet DLC?
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 17 күн бұрын
@@meta527II one of the best waifus? She was a mad scientist who ditched her son to be a paranoid cave gremlin for years and had already stopped replying to him long before she died
@dresseuse_de_johto
@dresseuse_de_johto Жыл бұрын
This battle instantly became my favorite final boss of the whole series, and one of my favorite final bosses of all time. I really wanted the Professor to be evil. What I got is even better. The orignal professor is arguably evil and is clearly the antagonist... but they're long dead. And what we're fighting against is what they left behind. I LOVE that. And then we have the AI twisting the trope of Evil AI Replacing Character by being the good guy while the original professor's was the bad guy. And being able to befriend the AI after being suspicious of the professo for all this time felt nice. And another trope I like is characters having to fight against their friends against their will, but I usually find it unsatisfying when the situation is resolved by the possessed / controlled character regaining control of themselves only through their own will and / or the power of friendship. But here, the AI is fighting us against their will... but they truly are powerless against their programming. There's no easy way out, we have to fight and beat them. And the battle itself is really cinematic. The AI using the time machine just before the battle to assemble their team, the Master Ball finishing the capture in the AI's hand, the AI towering above us and casually drooping Master Ball after Master Ball. And the music is so good. And mechanically, it's a very fun and unique challenge to fight all those strange Pokémon whose typing you don't know yet. And the scripted legendary battle right after really cool. I'm a little obsessed with final bosses in video game, and I love to imagine how I would've personally changed a villain or a final boss to make it better. But here, I struggle to find anything to improve. This final battle really surpassed my expectations, and my expectations for final bosses are always really high. TL;DR: I really really love this final boss.
@dresseuse_de_johto
@dresseuse_de_johto Жыл бұрын
And I forgot to mention their character design which is GOATed.
@autismandgaming4532
@autismandgaming4532 Жыл бұрын
I think the emotions this fight makes are perfectly summed up in 3 words which the AIs themselves says: "Please... Defeat me"
@Ihateeveryone831
@Ihateeveryone831 Жыл бұрын
@@autismandgaming4532 I actually cried during that part
@spamtong.spamton8416
@spamtong.spamton8416 Жыл бұрын
I think the only way the final boss could possibly be improved would be to have the Guardian of Paradise Terastallize and make you, Arven, Nemona and Penny fight it in a 4-on-1 Tera Raid-style battle.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
@@autismandgaming4532 God I wanted to hug the AI so bad.
@nikitolita0460
@nikitolita0460 Жыл бұрын
I also think it's very interesting that, while talking to Arven during the final moments of this plotline, the name box sometimes says "Professor Sada/Turo?" instead of "AI Sada/Turo", though I am not sure how this could be interpreted... apparently more of the real professor coming through again? I mean a part of them kinda continued to live through the AI, eventhough they are seperate characters
@AHylianWarrior
@AHylianWarrior Жыл бұрын
The music during the battle feels incredibly sad. It's played as if it's a broken "triumphant" theme with the music trying to sound happy but it keeps going into the lower keys and even has that gap where there's only a couple of instruments playing without the beat. It felt like a good story, but had a sad ending especially for Arven
@SoramiUchiha
@SoramiUchiha Жыл бұрын
Oh I really loved this ending, especially compared to what sword and shield gave us. I enjoyed the whole "something is off about this professor" feeling and the reveal was a fun plot twist I haven't experienced in a Pokemon game for a hot minute if at all. And I like that the ending is bittersweet. Not every ending needs to be a happily ever after and not everything has to be wrapped up with a neat bow--honestly, if the professor came up and was like "surprise, I'm actually alive, ha ha", it would severely lessen the emotional impact of the ending for me. It feels like Pokemon is committing to the bit and I appreciate that much more.
@ShatoraDragondore
@ShatoraDragondore Жыл бұрын
I got the feeling on the first play threw that when journals talked about "They left.." it was in reference to the other professor (Sadda for Violent Turo for Scarlet) So Arven dose have a parent they never even knew still out there opening up DLC Of the "Opposite" Prof showing up
@grapejuice9681
@grapejuice9681 Жыл бұрын
The ending for this story made me cry and I don’t remember the last time a Pokémon game made me do that. It’s by far my favorite story in any Pokémon game period.
@Rhapsodos_X
@Rhapsodos_X Жыл бұрын
The universal theme of SV, the schools, and Paldea at large is to grow and find your treasure. The main 3 storylines have great answers: Victory Road, Pokemon. Titans, pets. Starfall, friends. The final story is the antithesis. The professor grew up and attended the school same as us. On their treasure hunt, they stumbled upon the works/documentation of Area Zero. Yet their story detours into the bad end. The treasure became an obsession, and it detracted from their life. Alienating their fellow researchers (only capable of working with a robot clone), their once classmates, and even their son. It is a word of warning to not be so caught up in whatever glitters that you lose all the wealth you had before. Side note: This is echoed in the ruins that dot Paldea too. The old kingdom, once prosperous, threw it away in pursuit of feeding their avarice, resulting in the Ruinious pokemon. I just love the fact that the region based on Spain has undergone great lengths to stress that while we are born entitled to seek our treasures, blind greed for fame and fortune is destructive.
@yeetuszilla1663
@yeetuszilla1663 Жыл бұрын
AI Sada made one big mistake... Past=no electricity Future=has electricity AI Sada has much more limited time compared to Turo
@vodachan4458
@vodachan4458 Жыл бұрын
Unless she can pop out solar panels or something
@adrianleonce455
@adrianleonce455 Жыл бұрын
They don't really need electricity to function. They said they rely on the Terastal crystals to stay alive. So, both of them have very limited time in their time periods.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
​@@adrianleonce455 See that tells me that both of them will be fine, since there's no reason to think that those crystals won't exist in those times
@dougtheghoul2845
@dougtheghoul2845 Жыл бұрын
My dlc theory is that the paradox Suicune/Virizon being a guardian to the third legendary that was always in area zero. Especially as Arven's mabosstiff got injured by a paradox pokemon but he never recognized one inside area zero when the time machine opened
@FloraComet
@FloraComet Жыл бұрын
This has to be one of my favorite story that Pokemon has done alongside Legends Arceus, Sun and Moon and Black and White.
@dura_14
@dura_14 7 ай бұрын
the twist at the end genuinely shocked me. it was incredible, and it blew me away. although the games themselves are... rough, the story (and music) is phenomenal.
@luckyinky7849
@luckyinky7849 Жыл бұрын
I've seen somewhere that the professors act as some kind of parental figure to the player (mostly father because the player's one aren't present except from Brandon/May) since they take you under their wings, teach you stuff and is affectionate towards you. With Sada and Turo you don't have that same feeling at all since you never see them in public and pretty rarely only to tell you to do something. You don't have the same protection that you get from the other professors.
@ninjaydes
@ninjaydes Жыл бұрын
If they're meant to be parental figures, then I calls dibs on Professor Kukui. Oak sucks!
@mouthwaterin
@mouthwaterin 4 ай бұрын
I'm taking Sonia for reasons
@cainyourkids
@cainyourkids 2 ай бұрын
They sorta played with it in this game - instead of the professor being the "parental figure" in your journey, in here it's Director Clavell (who, himself, is also a professor - that's the title usually given to the head of a school).
@YoruMochizuki
@YoruMochizuki Жыл бұрын
Ive been watching your videos on and off via recommend, but this one truly set me into joining the memberships while I can ^-^ i love seeing people dive into lore, and I can see in your videos how much you care about it!
@GatorEX
@GatorEX Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yep, definitely so fun to take a moment to look a little closer at these moments from the games!
@OYJluv
@OYJluv Жыл бұрын
I cried so much with that ending... it literally broke my heart.😭💔
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
I feel like that ending changed my brain chemistry or something
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never really cared for Pokémon plots before this and PLA. I’m definitely glad I avoided spoilers for Area Zero. The buildup to the reveal was so well done and I definitely wasn’t expecting the professor to have been killed by one of the Paradox pokemon. And the AI being forced to stop you from shutting down the Time Machine made a really cool fight. I can’t tell you how bad I felt for Arven once he realized his only parent was dead and that he never really had a chance to have a parental relationship with them. And that his only family was Mabosstiff. The fact a Pokémon story made me feel something is something I never thought I would say. (Not counting the Mystery Dungeon games. Those have really good plots as well.) While SCVI are extremely glitchy games, the story they tell makes up for it for me. I do hope the DLC helps explain the events that led up to the creation of the Time Machine and what the Disk Pokemon is and how the professors became so intrigued with time travel that they were willing to risk Paldea’s safety and their own lives.
@Starlight1680
@Starlight1680 8 ай бұрын
Another big hint to the professor being a robot is actually in their animation. When leaving an animated character idle it’s important for them to have some kind of movement (bobbing shoulders, slight swaying, etc.) to suggest some kind of life to the character. The professor actually lacks this idle breathing animation while everyone else still has it. It’s a neat little detail because it’s something you won’t even notice is there but you do notice when it’s missing and it automatically sets off alarm bells.
@ursfan
@ursfan Жыл бұрын
This game had me fucking screaming at 3AM. The flurry of emotions was insane. Absolutely did *not* see any of this shit coming.
@NightTheKittenn
@NightTheKittenn Жыл бұрын
They really had the AI say “Look how you’ve grown, I’m so proud of you.” To Arven and expected me to be ok about it
@playingwithstory247
@playingwithstory247 Жыл бұрын
I hope we will see a continuation of the professor's story in the DLC. They made a point of showing them taking the Scarlet/Violet book with them into the past/present respectively. They even went so far as to alter the title screen in the post game to show that the book is no longer on the desk. If I remember the story correctly, they also never specifically say that Sada/Turo invented the time machine, just that they were working on it, a detail that always stuck out to me. It's interesting to think that the book was discovered by someone else in the past/future, creating a time loop where that person creates the time machine and goes to area zero, where Sada/Turo find and repair it, only to eventually have the machine shut down by their departure and the book returned to the past/future with them once again. We saw this kind of thing hinted at in Pokemon Legends Arceus with the subway boss from Black and White ending up in Hisui, so I'm interested to see where GameFreak goes with their time travelling trend. Thanks for the great video!
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
I always got the feeling that the machine was there and the professor just figured how to use it
@walteracevedo5105
@walteracevedo5105 Жыл бұрын
A hidden detail of the Time Machine, or at least I think so, the slot for the Scarlet/Violet book to put in looks similar to the back of Nintendo's first Gameboy.
@cheesecakes4517
@cheesecakes4517 Жыл бұрын
Think about the opening scene once more, we never see the professor's human body or meet them for real because they're dead, right? Miraidon and Koraidon are flying away from Area Zero during the time, having recently gone weak and collapse onto the beach after escaping the Crater. Escaping the Crater. From the other Miraidon/Koraidon. I like to think that means that as we begin the game, the Professor died as soon as the game started.
@aristotleisarocker
@aristotleisarocker Жыл бұрын
The legendary is fleeing as it losses the battle against its counterpart.. the professors died a long time and it wasnt stated if the Mirai and Korai were responsible since the diary just said a pokemon started to rampage.
@cheesecakes4517
@cheesecakes4517 Жыл бұрын
@@aristotleisarocker Incorrect. "The professor died protecting your Miraidon." As well as the part where it is stated "He failed to accurately judge the other Miraidon." Therefore, he died due to the consequences of not being able to make a judgement on the much more viscious Miraidon, dying whilst protecting the Story Miraidon.
@aristotleisarocker
@aristotleisarocker Жыл бұрын
@@cheesecakes4517 then that means it was a long time and since the other legendary is savage it bullies out our mirai, korai out of area zero. cause if that just happened just as we started we could have atleast see or even the ai would said where turo/sada body lies..
@cheesecakes4517
@cheesecakes4517 Жыл бұрын
@@aristotleisarocker Why would it tell us that? Furthermore, why would there be a reason to? The body can easily be crystallized over eithin a few moments given how Terastal Crystals work, and to put more statements forth; "Then that means it was a long time ago." It was, the beginning of the game WAS a long time ago. The game makes it very clear that our journey is arduous and long. Considering the frames, I'd say months worth of time. That is /more than enough/ to be considered long. Arven even says his contact suddenly stops over time, and since his adventure begins right when we have plans to go on our pathway to uva/naranja, he could have JUST lost contact, considering once more there is a huge time-gap between your arrival and the treasure hunt.
@strawdeath263
@strawdeath263 Жыл бұрын
@@cheesecakes4517 It never said "he failed to accurately judge the other Miraidon", it just says he failed to judge "the Pokémon" and that "the Pokémon wasn't to be blamed." It was deliberately kept vague as to what attacked your ride legendary.
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 Жыл бұрын
Professor Turo is probably my favorite final boss since N and Ghetsis.
@ayoayostupid4841
@ayoayostupid4841 Жыл бұрын
I paused the video at the beginning when the text glitches to "you are challenged by the paradise protection protocol" and I just discovered that for a very brief moment it says "AI Sada has no intention of fighting anymore" it's incredible
@lucariosenpai9026
@lucariosenpai9026 Жыл бұрын
When I entered the final part of Violet and saw that the professor was sitting on a stool with his eyes open, I had the instant thought: robot?
@D7nt_MindMe
@D7nt_MindMe Жыл бұрын
Wait, if AI sada went back into the past, does this mean we get to see her remains left in rocks since she went to the past
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Possibly, assuming that she even died. I imagine that they can last a lot longer than a human lifespan. I did read a fanfic where Arven found AI Sada's broken down shell and set about recruiting everyone possible to repair her. It was really good and kept me in suspense if it would even work right up to the end.
@soulglitcher
@soulglitcher Жыл бұрын
I thought that the professor would return in the epilogue and be like: hey, guys, it's been just...a couple million years since I said hi, right?
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
That's what fanfiction is for
@anjealousanaconda9692
@anjealousanaconda9692 Жыл бұрын
I legit started crying when AI Sada tried to get the group to run away❤😢
@tlotpwist3417
@tlotpwist3417 5 ай бұрын
They went from hyped memed professor to EMOTIONAL DAMAGE! 10/10 best professors in Pkmn history
@daniellelondon439
@daniellelondon439 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video! The way that this storyline was concluded felt both like it could have gone differently than it did, but at the same time, there was no other way that the problem could have been resolved.
@ranting2daMAX
@ranting2daMAX Жыл бұрын
I adore the dialogue in the game while the text is shifting from AI Turo/Sada to the Paradise Protection Protocol during the last battle. (It says something along the lines of “AI Turo/Sada no longer wants to fight!”) also the fact that the AI professors would both likely die brutally within the future or the past (many of the Pokémon from those places that we’ve seen are incredibly violent, and there still may be more undocumented pokemon from that era, also both of them would most likely run out of whatever it is that’s powering them)
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Even the brutal dragon that killed the original professor doesn't attack the AI. It's possible that they sense that the AI isn't a living being so they don't see this person as a threat. Also what's powering them is the existence of the crystals in Area Zero and there's no reason to assume that those won't be there in either timeline, unless Sada went SO far back that it predated whatever made the crater to begin with.
@TheMaskedFox288
@TheMaskedFox288 7 ай бұрын
Arven became my absolute favorite character in Scarlet. I just want to give him a hug and some therapy
@aquafox_x
@aquafox_x Жыл бұрын
The ending actually nearly made me cry, Arven had no parents, I had expected the AI to basically become his new parent but it didn’t. It was just all sad
@Cuprite1024
@Cuprite1024 Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, that last hour or so of the game rivals the entirety of Gen 5 for me, which is high praise cause Gen 5's story is great. Idk what happened during the writing of the last part of the story here, but I'm glad it *did* happen. :) My only real complaint about this section of SV is just how interchangeable Sada and Turo are. They're literally just the same character with a different skin, which sucks (Also Violet overall makes less sense to me, it feels like the story was written for Scarlet and they just remembered Violet existed later into development).
@adrianleonce455
@adrianleonce455 Жыл бұрын
Violet makes less sense story-wise? Honestly, I feel like Scarlet is the one that makes less sense due to future related stuff like AIs and time machine being presented in a past- focused game.
@Cuprite1024
@Cuprite1024 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianleonce455 She may dress like a cavewoman but she's still a professor, she *would* be using a lot of technology. Besides, how else would she be able to bring stuff in from the past without the time machine? Its not like she's just gonna stumble upon Celebi.
@adrianleonce455
@adrianleonce455 Жыл бұрын
@@Cuprite1024 Hmmmmm, yeah you kinda got a point🤔. She may focus on the past, but that doesn't mean she can't use technology to research it. It's kinda like Jurassic Park now that I'm thinking more of this. Though, I still don't understand the "story written for Scarlet first" part.
@ArtzyZero
@ArtzyZero Жыл бұрын
It's weird because I feel like bringing Pokémon into the past to co-exist with humans is more realistic than bringing them from the future and works better with what real life science is trying to do. But the AI assistant being an identical copy of the real professor and the time machine feels more in line with futuristic technology, it's a weird mish-mash but it's probably somewhat intentionally written that way so that it works with both themes.
@rikajougasaki3296
@rikajougasaki3296 Жыл бұрын
Rather than the original Prof being still alive, I'm thinking Turo lives in Scarlet & Sada lives in Violet.
@KosmoZer0
@KosmoZer0 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to believe that in a future DLC we will see some sort of evidence to the Professor being able to keep a watch on our current timeline and maybe assist us in some time of crisis. I just felt that it ended a bit more bitter than sweet and would like to see them maybe sending the Scarlet/Violet book through time in an attempt to thank us or maybe to travel to these times for a short period.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
I just want some verification that they were happy
@rockassassin64
@rockassassin64 Жыл бұрын
another connection to the theme of the league story is the top champion is not even a challenge for Nemona which has left her listless. which is not super obvious since her mood improves right away as she meets you but I feel like i remember a few people hinting at it at least.
@larry9351
@larry9351 5 ай бұрын
Them using a full team with 6 matching master balls was such a statement
@mrchickinman9984
@mrchickinman9984 Жыл бұрын
this is by far my favorite story in a pokémon game so far. people trash it for bad performance and glitches, but the story more than makes up for that imo
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma 7 ай бұрын
i didn't even really get the performance issues and glitches tbh, the worst i've ever gotten is my pokemon sometimes getting launched in the air for a second during picnics
@Diegoso01
@Diegoso01 Жыл бұрын
There definitely seems to be quite a bit unresolved about this chapter like you said. One thing that's particularly been bothering me is the question of what happens to Ai Sada once they enter the machine? It's been implied that the machine seen might not be a time machine but rather something that brings imagination to life. So was Ai Sada actually taken somewhere in the past or did something else happen to her when they entered the machine?
@blast0r
@blast0r Жыл бұрын
I've been wondering about the time machine myself. I'm not sure where you're getting the imagination thing, but that Dendra is the only character that has a Violet Pokemon, or that the Time Machine seems powered on post game (an oversight?), or that the other professor is suggested to have left - where did they go? That there's two different academies on Paldea - one for each version - is that not odd? Also - According to Raifort's lessons - Area Zero was explored long before Sada even began work.
@spamtong.spamton8416
@spamtong.spamton8416 Жыл бұрын
I think the time machine is just a regular time machine. The imagination theory just makes too many assumptions to seem plausible to me and it wouldn't make sense to call the Pokémon coming from it Paradox Pokémon if they weren't actually paradoxes.
@cr90captain89
@cr90captain89 Жыл бұрын
@@spamtong.spamton8416 well the area & the machine when used does have a striking similarity to ultra wormholes & ultra space. so maybe they traveled through it to other realms/ realities.
@strawdeath263
@strawdeath263 Жыл бұрын
@@blast0r I mean, that last bit makes perfect sense. The original exploration is the one mentioned in the Scarlet/Violet Book. And the academy being minutely different depending on version probably doesn't have any hidden meaning.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
I tend to think that if it IS based in imagination, it's still a real time machine because the professor imagined it to be so.
@sidneyprice5514
@sidneyprice5514 Жыл бұрын
The Way Home felt like an ending that was designed to be open ended, whether by choice or accident is up for debate, as a sort of way to build on what was there. Maybe the time machine turns back on and more Paradox Pokemon find their way into Paldea. Maybe the characters are sucked into the past/future. And I think that works.
@Burger-dq9nf
@Burger-dq9nf 8 ай бұрын
poor arven, his parents died and he didnt even know 😭but i guess they technically didnt care to even see their kid
@XAEzl
@XAEzl 7 ай бұрын
Late, but I think it's worth mentioning that the original professor was killed at rhe very very start of the game. The opening cutscene is the ride Koradion fleeing Area Zero.
@Atomas69
@Atomas69 Жыл бұрын
damn people can complain about the bugs all they want, but truly the story itself is where the beauty of this game lies in.
@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69
@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 10 ай бұрын
You know you fucked up as a professor when your own AI duplicate is telling you "It's time to stop!"
@Stesey-B
@Stesey-B Жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I saw the professor in the cutscene I said ' damn he moves like a robot '
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 Жыл бұрын
I smiled at this twist. That explained why there was no other footage of Sada and Turo after their reveal. And the Pokémon Professor be the villain of this game?! Genius! What a beautiful subversion and make the typical Pokémon Professor archetype actually be a mad scientist. They've never spun on that before. All Professors have been positive mentors before this and some are more well rounded characters than others. But for the writers of Gen 9 to take this expectations of the Professor that we have grown too complacent in and shatter it... Wow! Commendations across the board! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Oo, hoping for an evil champion next! Think about it, a hero figure for the player and the region, like Leon, lauded as this great person and figure, and then he turns out to not be the great person they all thought. Juicy! 😋
@206Zelda
@206Zelda Жыл бұрын
Arven and his storyline were probably the biggest elements I kept playing the game. He was easily the one I could connect with the most, Penny being second, and I'm a sucker for sandwiches so he easily caught my attention. His dog, his parent(s), his entire life was upside down while he fought to attend school. That being said, I wish we had games that had darker elements like these and didn't try to play them off as 'bad things to teach children'. Reality is pretty dark and is appreciated when told respectfully in a story. Even Pokemon Rocket Red, just a fanbased game, is such a neat and intriguing concept and shows those 'bad things' behind the curtain that should be shown. I still appreciate S/V for what they are (even though the Pokemon games seem unpolished and rushed and definitely not worth $60), but it would be nice to have the 'darker based' versions being acknowledged and/or given more chances to grow in the games.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Wait who's trying to play these off as bad things to teach children?
@Transformer.W
@Transformer.W 6 ай бұрын
To me the coolest part of the game is when all your poke balls lock then you send you Miraidon//Koraidon out he looks at you then start shining flies up and wave hits everywhere and he turns into his battle form.
@niceguy66alain
@niceguy66alain Жыл бұрын
I understood the ai professor differently 🤔. I understood that the ai was made to run the time machine; as in it was part of it. The professor copied their mind and after their death the ai (which has a copy of the professors mind) realized how dangerous it all was. The Ai was running off the professors knowledge until the security system activated which was a simple goal(protect time machine) related ai behavior written by the original professor before they saw how dangerous it all was...but that's just how I interpreted it 😅
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 17 күн бұрын
@@niceguy66alain we know the AI had differed with the professor during their lifetime because they mention the professor's flippant response to that objection
@Shadow___Eevee
@Shadow___Eevee 8 ай бұрын
Spoliers for Indigo disk: I like how they made it to where you get to talk with the actual professor in the post game and it give you an option asking about are you the AI professor and they go " that's an interesting idea"
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 17 күн бұрын
@@Shadow___Eevee yeah but it's a different timeline professor, not the one from our world
@connergoessupersonic
@connergoessupersonic Жыл бұрын
They literally just straight up pulled a Kirby on us and I am all here for it
@Prima_Media
@Prima_Media Жыл бұрын
i love the ai professor so much, definitely my favorite character, id love to see dlc expand upon the lore of the time machine and paradox pokemon, but id really hate it if the professor was somehow alive all along
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
The only way I could accept them being alive is if they were being kept alive by the weird crystal in the fourth research station and had been twisted into something far beyond any human understanding.
@TreyC68
@TreyC68 Жыл бұрын
The ending of SV just served to give Arven emotional damage
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 11 ай бұрын
It gave ME emotional damage!
@SorceressRose
@SorceressRose Жыл бұрын
It would be pretty great to see the other alive professor as the principal of Blueberry Academy, where we get more backstory on them and the main professor who died. But all I can say about the main game is that the game did have an amazing storyline and honestly, the best part was the plot twist and the final true battle of the game. It will go down as one of my most favorite things in any Pokemon game!
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma 7 ай бұрын
i feel like playing the entirety of the way home at 2 in the morning while incredibly sleep deprived induces shrimp emotions only explainable by that one tails gets trolled reaction image
@peach6648
@peach6648 Жыл бұрын
2:04 THAT DIALOGUE… ‘i’m asking you two to lend a hand- to help carry out the final step of the great sada/turo’s glorious research’ … when i first saw this dialogue my reaction was ‘turo is referring to himself in the third person and calling himself glorious? what a tool…’ in hindsight that hits different knowing the person you’re talking to isn’t actually the professor…
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos Жыл бұрын
Also notice the AI makes a very fast version of what would ultimately be their farewell gesture at the end of that call.
@jancevaughn8539
@jancevaughn8539 Жыл бұрын
pokémon violet and scarlet: kick arven while he's down
@nataliecoronado4206
@nataliecoronado4206 8 ай бұрын
Even though they are fundamentally the same character, I can't help but have a stronger appreciation for Sada over Turo. Absent mothers are much less talked about in media than absent fathers. And with SV's theme of putting faith in the future generation, the idea of the Pokemon Professor, one of the greatest authorities in the region, being so obsessed with the past that she was willing to prioritize it over her son's future, the region's future, and even her own future, it just feels like a natural progression of the themes of the game. And if you take the AI robot she made into consideration, as well as the pictures of Arven as a child in both her Poco Path lab and the Zero Lab, it becomes clear that Sada had the potential to look to the future right in front of her instead of dwelling on the past. But because of her fixation on bringing Ancient Pokemon to the modern day, it became the only thing she invested her time and energy into. But in the end, all it did was get her killed.
@mrclarinetnerd
@mrclarinetnerd Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think we may get some clarification on after the ending in The Teal Mask and The Indigo Disk. And honestly, this story is the only one from a Pokemon game that nearly brought me to tears, specifically the ending.
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