I do, however, wish you would’ve shown us how it zips down the front of it to see how much it opens up because that’s one of the things about savotta that I don’t like. Is that packs don’t zip down so you can access them from the side of the front.

@@Timberbeartrail There are no side zippers on these packs, top access only, clean and easy.

Thank you! I saw photos of you guys using this method and tried it out. Moving through the trees confirmed it. I can’t think of any other packs I have used that facilitate this style. Really excellent.

With external frame packs back in the day, we got used to strapping those huge old timey tents to the top portion of the frame, and the foam mat underneath the pack. I remember in the 80s trying to figure out a way to strap those bulky items vertically, but the hardware just wasn't there. And I carried the Savotta flagship 906... Thank God for modern packs that have options!

Glad to help. Your XL pouch would work on the back of either of these. The KAHAKKA + HATKA + ASKARE combo would be very versatile.

@@Stracker308 Thank you!

Thanks Jeff. If I had to pick between the two, that’s probably the one I would recommend for the woods. Both are really nice though.

Hey brother, appreciate it. Tim is a good dude. Agreed on the pack, great for customizing. Cheers

Thank you! Their outdoor gear is legendary.

HOLY POWERS of PISS! A pack with real pockets, I hate that mesh crap - catches on 'everything' and even a 1 litre bottle hardly hangs in on smaller ones, especially if you need to bolt or are in a reasonable water current... (actually Two packs! ) FILTHY AS MATE. ( The poms made a good burgen a little bigger than the 25 you have here but, it was heavy, no water resistance, no pockets and few anchor points which are now - 'antiquated'! ) SO, finally a no bullshit bombproof Bergen fit for modern times and modern equipment... NO - Two of em'. Shiiit! Has anyone noticed you can fit small shit in a big pocket, but you can't fit big shit in a small pocket. Jess... You LEGEND mate.💜👍 Universal Sovereign Citizen

Hey Alex! Thanks Brother. 🤝 No worries at all. I know how it goes. Looking forward to seeing what you have been working on! Cheers Bro 🌲

Thanks Herb 🤝

Thanks John. You too, brother.

Imagine if they made a jaakari m with those HUGE side pockets. That would be heavenly.

Thanks, Kyle! The side pockets are definitely the business. Adds a ton of flexibility in loading. So does shock cord. The Finnish shock cord is the best I have seen. It’s a really nice way to do a simple mod for not a lot of money that will significantly increase carrying options.

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No problem, Brother. Happy to help. Cheers 🤝

Hey Rich! Thank you very much. Glad to hear you are picking up the 15L. You are going to love it. Perfect day pack. Cheers, Brother

@@EnduranceRoom Thank You Bro, I'm sure I will! :)

Thank you!

Hey Tommy, Thank you! Oh man, they definitely cracked into something good with these. The pleated pocket is brilliant. From what I have heard, they wanted an all in one pack, no accessories needed, but easy enough to add on to whenever necessary. The G hooks are interesting. Little slower than SR buckles, but certainly handy for attaching stuff. Have a good one! 🤝

Thanks Nate. Tim is a good dude. The 15L is available. It is a perfect pairing with ASKARE. Will post some pics.

Thank you! Indeed our "special sauce" is the sense of seriousness when it comes to military gear, we aren't making the most fancy, fast and special type of gear for that 0,01% of hyper speed door kickers. We make serious, sensible gear for the 99% of users, with an emphasis on ease of use and reliability in the sort of environments we've got over here. The Finnish Defence Forces commonly use gear made by us for decades before they are too far gone for repairs.

Thanks Brother. You are spot on, as usual. The side pockets are absolutely incredible. Such a simple, yet highly effective/efficient idea. Cheers my friend. 🤝

Thanks Brother. They are super nice. The 15 is a perfect lightweight pack. Pockets add a ridiculous amount of flexibility.

Thanks! 🤝

Yes indeed! Thanks Brother

I haven’t made any videos on the S, as I don’t own one. Nonetheless, the 4L side pouches are a great addition to it. So is a beaver tail or shock cord.

@EnduranceRoom right, you just turned me on to savotta!! Have enjoyed all your vids.

@@jwgbmp40 Ah, gotcha! Glad to hear it.

That was just a preview im sure review comes later.

Perhaps not. If something lasts 3-5 times longer than something even half the price then the investment has saved you more than money. But ultimately we buy the best we can afford... (Your obviously smart cause you clearly know that.) Keep savin' $! 👍

Thanks Rod! They did a really nice job on these. The overall design, combined with the materials and workmanship, is top notch.

I have made quite a few loadout videos, but will do one in near future with the 25L

@@EnduranceRoom thank you so much i Will 100% look on it! I love you’r chanel have a good one!

It is 31 Liters with the side pockets (3.1L each) with plenty of room for expansion as needed. Word on the street is there will be 2 larger packs this winter, a 40L and a 60L

@@EnduranceRoom I just ordered one, with the two outer 4L pouches to add to the rear. Got them all cheaper through Varusteleka.

Thanks brother. That pack is pretty sweet. If you want to mix up the camo on it, maybe try adding some skrim through the webbing. You could give it an atacs vibe, with texture.

Oh man... yeah, I have noticed weird things with the numbers for awhile. My count goes down when I put something out quite often, then some new people will come in and it will go up a bit. The camo is old school USMC frog skin, aka duck hunter. Really nice for a variety of conditions, plus the fabric is light, so great for summer.

Thank you! I will try and film a loadout video with them when I can. Cheers

Thank you. That would be great😊​@@EnduranceRoom

I will post something with the 15L and ASKARE soon. In the video at 1:44 there is a photo of the 15 with a 6L side pouch on it, which is very similar in size to ASKARE.

@@EnduranceRoomsaw that that’s an indicator but unfortunately I still can’t image how much of the 15L bag will be covered by the hatka Which is fully loaded so 10-12L

@@m3th0dm1n I posted some pics. Check my community tab.

@@m3th0dm1n I am sorry. I had ASKARE on my mind. HATKA will fill it up as it has pretty much the same overall dimension, but is a bit thinner. The compression straps will snug it down as well. I will post a pic when I get some time.

Thank you. I found them both to be quite comfortable, especially after adjusting shoulder straps to my frame. Sternum strap on both, waist strap on 25. The only thing I would say, is that the packs have a flat back, rather than any kind of ventilation like on the Jääkäri M. You can adjust the pack to loosen up and give your back some air, with the bottom of the pack resting on hips. It is currently in 90s here and this works for me. I really like them both.

@@EnduranceRoom Thanks for the introduction and information👍

You will love it. Really awesome packs.

Such an ingenious solution to the age old problem: side pouches or not? Molle was ok but a bit of a hassle. I preferred Berghaus's zipper attachment. May have to retire my Centurion now, the big Kahakka looks like a major improvement.

@@trikyy7238 It’s absolutely awesome.

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Thanks! The packs are both really nice. You could attach them together if you had to, but I don’t think that would be optimal. The HATKA, ASKARE or 1 or 2 side pouches would be a better fit on the back. The velcro panel is same size as on HATKA, about 3.5” x 6”

@@EnduranceRoom thank you greatly for both the advice and measurements 🙏💪❤️

Thanks! That’s really cool. Bungee cord, I would run pretty long, it’s probably 6 or 7 feet, or 2 meters. I keep it long enough I can use it for my sleeping pad. Anything smaller like a jacket or tarp will easily cinch down with that also. If you are ordering it, I would grab like 5-6 meters of Finnish shock cord and a handful of their cord locks (it’s the best). Yes, burn to seal after cutting to length. Just run it and figure out your length before you cut it. It’s easy to do, just take time and measure up with your gear before you cut.

@@EnduranceRoom yeah sweet! I got 4m bungee from Varusteleka and 4 cord locks, sounds like it'll be enough!

Yes you can. It rides underneath it on your waist very well though. Highly recommend the ASKARE + 15L combo

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Thank you! Man, I appreciate that. I just checked my settings and yes, it will film 4k. 🤝

@@EnduranceRoom De nada! ☺️ Glad I might be of help. There are - as with most everything - some downsides: - Larger Filesize (up to 4 Times as much) - Higher Load on the Workstation you use for Cutting (but most modern PC's handle it well.) - Some Cameras use more power when recording in 4k and might overheat easier As well as all the implications that come with the facts stated above, like i.e. shorter recording times or more money for larger SD cards, longer Copy / Transfer Times, taking up quite a lot more local Disk Space etc. etc. In case that's to annoying, 2K might be a good tradeoff (roughly 2x 1080p)

Thanks! Yes, the 15L is awesome.

Yes it does. Great packs.

😂 Oh yeah.... I know exactly what happened there. Sticky Fingers

@EnduranceRoom you ain't kidding I've heard from multiple people now he has done that too... well not surprised from a Master Mason art of deception hahaha 😆 🤣

The CP15 is awesome. The clam shell style opening allowing access to everything is pretty slick.

You could mount either.... but I would recommend either HATKA or ASKARE for something like that.

No worries. These are extremely flexible. I tried to relay that as best as I could. The 500d is used for comfort (on back) and flexibility (sides of lid). All structural stuff is 1000D. On the HATKA and ASKARE, they are small volume packs and 500d is more than sufficient, adding comfort and reducing weight. I am glad the Jääkäri lineup is still available as well. These are different and they all have their strengths.

@@EnduranceRoom Yep, the majority of the packs is 1000D Cordura to withstand the horrors of carrying stuff like MG ammo cans, e-tools etc. 500D is only used on the back pad compartments outer side (against your body) and the sides of the folding top/lid to make it bit less clunky to fold and roll. Flexibility is still going strong, but we really wanted to make packs which are "good to go" out of the box, unlike the Jääkäri S for example which requires you to go shopping for a bunch of extra pouches, padding, sternum straps etc. to get it up and running properly. You can still add two of our 4L side pouches to the front of the pack, and use the side compression straps to attach pouches/bags "beavertail style", so there's really a lot you can do with these to tweak them if needed.

@@Savotta They are very good to go. Thanks so much for jumping in on these and offering some insight. I think it may take a little time for some to see the potential here, but they will come around.

The 15L is similar in size to S, the 25L to M. All of them are different and each have their strengths. Nonetheless, use what works for you. 👍

When going by RRPs the Kahakka 25L is 70 euros more expensive than the Jääkäri S, but you get a LOT of added functionality for that money: proper padded and contoured shoulder straps, a sternum strap, a 50 mm waist belt, a proper three dimensional zippered lid pouch, sewn-on expandable side pouches, two compression straps per side, proper back support/padding etc. Tweaking a Jääkäri S to match the functionality and carry comfort of the Kahakka 25L would cost a lot more than the price difference here, and the end result would be quite a contraption as opposed to the sleek form of the Kahakka.