I havent watched the video yet but i still agree, genshin seriously fails at some important story elements yet the fanbase just keep licking the toe of hoyoverse (i wrote my complains in reddit and got downvoted to hell) 1.traveler is not being even a character and just a tool/floating camera to follow Hoyoverse doesn't know if they wanna make traveler a self-insert or an actual character so they try both and fail at both 2.having too many characters syndrome Archon quests having too many characters so not being able to tell their story other then the most cruial ones 3.incredible long quest yet not long enough to flesh out characters Archons quest on average could take 2 Hour, on sumeru we had 6 quest, that sums umto 12 hours of story, yet they still are unable to flesh out the characters and the story (other games can tell a good story in 8 hour) 4.main villians not having a reason to be villians Game presents the fatuis as the villians but they forgot the most crusial part of story telling, emotional investment, fatui and traveler doesn't have a reason to be enemies other then the obvious 'we are the bas guys!!!' stick that doesn't even work so we dont even have a emotional investment in their conflict Even though theres a very easy group to make the main villains, abyss, think abyss was shown to make very bad things and travaler has a emotional investment in this conflict as their family is in abyss, they have a reason to hate them Genshin impact full off these kind of things yet the fanbase refuse see any of them

9:21 there a very simple fix for the janky animations in some heavy scenes. they could literally just show a static image for the scenes that require a unique pose they do it in hi3 and even in starrail all the time yet they somehow cant figure that shit out in genshin

So many salty genshin fans. I’m convinced half of these comments are hoyo bots. There’s no way actual rational human beings are still defending this mediocre game

Imagine if Sunday from HSR was just a bland ass NPC like Genshin does it.

after watch it all the previous nahida point of all her old memories become forgotten now make sense with the recent new dainslef quest but sadly like you mention in the last part of the video you have to wait for a long time already cleared that quest and it feels not much really change at all because ironicly the Genshin lore theory group ALREADY predicted it way before the recent dainslef quest out *oof* the only part that bugging me about the wanderer quest since we finished and "altered" history about him does that mean player who already cleared the mikoshi furnace world quest become meaningless?

While I agree it isn’t the most greatest story in Genshin even, for some reason, this was the only quest that genshin made me cry. Even during Furina my favourite character in the game’s final dance I just had a big lump in my throat and a very very sad face. However Dance of Sabsereuz genuinely made me just bawl at my screen and I still don’t understand why. Maybe it is the beauty of seeing someone’s dying wish be fulfilled. That face of Dunyazaed just gazing with joy is so so emotional. Which makes it even worse that they kept her alive and DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITH HER 😭 Genshin’s plot can be so fucking good sometimes and just derail into mediocrity. It’s like that one meme that’s like We are so back, it’s over. Also I respect ur opinion but I major disagree with your Dunyazard opinion. She is so much better than Teppei as we actually get to see her backstory, her reason for loving Kusanali sm unlike Teppei who we literally know 0 about

These videos make me laugh and the comments express it well

love your analysis on the conclusion, it says "Rukkha getting erased = bad", "memories of her getting erased = bad", "no conclusion to the story, no landing" without explaining why. even if you have a legitimate reason for it, it's kinda funny how you absolutely avoid explaining why...IN AN ANALYSIS AND CRITIQUE VIDEO.

Im still questioning what's canon after the erasure cause all of that felt like a i skip and wasted my time It feels like im back from the start and its ending at the same time that it enraged me 😡

I’m ngl this vid is rather disappointing. Most of your points come off as more nitpicky than actual criticism and explaining why you have that certain issue with the story. The only things I really seem to agree with you is a missed opportunity to have Collei interact with Dottore and how the flow of the story from one nation to another doesn’t feel all that natural (which also feel a bit nitpicky tbh). Idk this video seems rushed and not really all that thought out. You don’t elaborate on why you think Sumerus ending falls short…no explanation, it just does because Rukka got erased? Not to mention you don’t even talk about Scaramouche considering how important his role is and what happens to him afterwards (which admittedly I’m not a fan of but I digress).

Man I just want new fighting mechanics like dodging and fight while jumping or something and better story telling

i dont know why this video has so many dislikes your points are valid, cutscene animations can be animated way better, the npc quests honestly aren't that memorable to me i haven't played genshin since faruzan came out and i cant for the life of me think about an npc quest that stood out to me or was memorable in any way. I honestly think if they got rid of paimons yapping and added an option to skip the unimportant unnecessary dialogue id probably have a better time engaging with the story.

I liked the time loop arc, but everything after that is a blur, so many filler dialogues ... It feels like each scene is at least 5 times longer than it has to be. Fountain is a bit like that too, the trial are all good, the last one is great even, but everything else feel padded. I play a lot of CRPG, I don't mind reading dialogue for hours even if they are unvoiced, but I have to feel like each scene is going somewhere. In genshin so much content feel like filler designed to be as long as possible.

23:42 I guess that you'd like to see these two fighting each other, but there's quite a logic reason why this could not happen. To put it simply, Tighnari cannot just attack a Harbinger. He knows too well that he doesn't stand a chance in a battle against the 2nd Harbinger. Boy, even Nahida herself knows that and she gambles the price for the 2 gnoses. So yeah, like you said he has all right to be mad at Dottore, but he knows too well the consequences of such act. Though the "high school debate" could've surely been handled better. I find it still with the character. Also I would like to know why exactly the conclusion of Sumeru's story arc was so terrible. As your argument that killing Rukkhadevata is lazy does not convince me as it is not supported by anything. I see it as a ok way to end Nahida's story that otherwise would need another 3 hour quest to be wrapped up. Overall, I think the story of Sumeru was written quite well. I really enjoyed the amount of cohesion in that story and that small details, which at first glance seemed not to be important, but later on, played minor or major role in the story.

I don't agree with your point that the doctor and Tighnari should have fought. Like do you want both collei and tighnari to die? He is the second Fatui harbinger the best he is comparable to a god. Tighnari the best could have done is run. It the opposite is true they could have used the scene, where collei was hiding from the doctor and tighnari was doing the best to concealed her. This would have made the doctor even more terrifying.

I love watching a story analysis without any analyzing its so fun when there are zero points being made

Now commentate Wuthering Waves. Don't worry you'll get through the main story in LESS than a month. I grinded hardly so I did it in like 4 days

i need therapy after reading this comment section so much stupidity and lack of regard for the video AAAAAAA

Okay actually it's ironic but the way the sumeru archon quest was rushed at the end is the same as your video being rushed to the end I think you actually said out loud the problem is that irminsul is a pretty stupid concept but don't elaborate specially with Scaramouche.

Kallen eating a sandwich gif is the peak of Video Essay qualification.

What is this like to dislike ratio???? 😭😭😭

Funny but when i was came to sumeru and play the archon quest for the first time It was actually nice than liyue and mondstadt combine but however at one point it also confused me as well and i had to watch other people analysis it to understand Meanwhile Aranara is straight up just Fun without know what the hell is going on in that situation Probably because they give lot of primogem so I don't care of tf they are having trouble for 😂😂😂

O my this video flopped ops 😂

Probably one of your most controversial video lol, but I agree with most of your takes. Many people really think highly of sumeru AQ because it came after inazuma AQ, which was such a let down that anything above that bar of storytelling is basically a good story for this game. I come back to genshin again after the sumeru AQ were finished (3.4) because I saw lots of good things from popular content creator and from genshin main sub about the story, praising it, calling sumeru AQ to be the best AQ in the game. At first the introduction of the region is mediocre at best, but I like collei's characterization at the start, her english voice actress basically hard carried the first act, since I read the manga, it's even better. You brought up a good point that her sudden trauma outburst were portrayed badly by the game (no animation and just jump cut ), I didn't notice it because her voice over basically concealed it but after you brought it up it just made me disappointed about this game. But overall, I consider the first act to be serviceable as an opening for the region, because I didn't like the 2nd act. IMO the 2nd act should've been shorter, I already get what they want to tell by the 2nd loop, there should've been an option at least if you know that there's something wrong so you can stop doing the loop thing, the fact that the story continues on and on just made this act becoming overdone with this repetitiveness for me. From act III to IV, I thought it would get better, but no, the dialogue become so bloated that I have to smash the skip button until the plot actually progress. The fact that hoyo made the setting jump so many times to random important lore location thinking that the majority of players would actually read the lore is just bad story design for this kind of game imo. For the first half of the final act, I found it ok, the scara boss fight and the music is so cool, I thought the same that this would be it for the ending, but no, they have to do the irminsul erasure, probably the worst plot device that this game ever used in their archon quest history. All of nahida's character development from act 2 is practically rendered for nothing since it turns out, she always has been the great dendro archon from the start, but locked up by the academia, her previous 500 years of suffering just become less significant. I also agree that dunyarzard should've died, I'm so confused why they do all the thing in act 2 but kept her alive later in the story, looking back, even if she die, her story would've been ruined anyway by the irminsul memory wipe in act v. Other than that, Dottore's character is pretty boring imo, I thought they would not stray away from the manga, but they did, the fact that they make his character glued with the segment thingy was so disappointing because at that point I knew that there's no way that hoyo would make collei confront dottore to complete her story, because they definitely didn't want to put the bare minimum effort to make an actual story, they will use dottore's segment's plot device to basically avoid that, which they did. Scara's characterization in the AQ is a bit edgy for my taste that I can't take him seriously at all, but I enjoyed every time he's on screen, I guess there's that.

LETS GO

Genshin's story sucks because it, like all gacha games, is just trying to take advantage of the addictive nature of gambling. Like a casino, it presents a pretty and luxurious exterior, but once they've got you hooked they don't have to try anymore. That's why the earlier chapters, before they built up enough popularity to coast of brand recognition alone, are so much better. Why make an actually engaging story when paying all your favorite youtubers to advertise and play it is so much cheaper and easier.

i’m so glad you made this. there is absolutely no excuse they can make as to why they don’t improve the story. this is a BILLION dollar company, like they’re just being lazy at this point lol. stop locking lore behind limited events and give us more content in archon quests; hell, even incorporate more world quests into archon quests or at least make them similar in quality.

actually jean and barbara are biological sisters but their parents had a divore hence the different last names

I just got here.

the only decent story around sumeru was only Tignari story quest, the Sumeru archon quest are rather forgetable and the sad reality Genshin player seems to hate to admit it are it's only bearable if you hear from someone rather than the game tells you. funny that this game have better story telling through world quest more than their archon or most of character story quest, you probaly want to cover how some of this game world quest are better, although you probaly know how slow the pacing for some of their story quest i'm looking at you aranara.

Good job buddy, great video, keep going, don't worry about mentally ill people who defend a multi billion company who can't even implement basic things into their game with their budget. P.S Can't wait you to destroy fountain story, it's so bad it feels like it was legit made by 9 year olds

U know my guy? You can just say you didn't enjoy the story that ok , but claiming the story was bad as fact ... is just straight up a stupid take I'm sorry

The main problem with genshin impact's story is that it's really hard to follow for a casual player. Not only do you have to read the manga, which is not mentioned anywhere in the game, you also have to be present in the game at all times to not miss an occasional limited time story event where you could meet important characters for the first time. And if you miss these events, it becomes all the more jarring when you start playing the main story and people talk to you like you already know each other when it's the first time you actually meet them from the player's perspective. Then, naturally, there's the problem of telling a story through years and years of updates, because at this point I do not remember anything that happened in the early arcs and chapters, and there's no way to replay story missions from the archive, except for reading the raw dialogue without any visuals. Did anybody ever use that feature anyway? It's so dumb. Games like FGO let you replay the story in its entirety minus the battles, but here I guess you have to go to KZfaq for a recap or something every time a story update rolls out. And that's just the technical stuff. The entire story is pretty much 80% filler. There's so much emphasis on the routine stuff people do that it almost makes me vomit. I play games to immerse myself in fantasy worlds and instead what I get with this game is endless blabber about work, bureaucracy, research projects and a ton of made up terms and concepts which nobody explains, and thus the story can use them however it desires, which is why there are no stakes in the story. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY asks the most basic questions in genshin impact, not even the main character who is literally a self insert from "another world". What are visions? How do they work? How do you get them? It's okay if nobody in the world knows the answers, but it's not okay if no one asks. Every part of the story is so intentionally cryptic and you have to dig through so many lore books and out-of-the-game content that it all becomes one giant jumbled mess of neverending exposition with no actual substance to it. And when the quests are not that, when people just celebrate their festivals, live their lives, it becomes redundant, tedious and plain boring. It honestly baffles me that these same people made Star Rail, since that game tackles everything so much better. In any case, I think I'm done with Genshin Impact for good. The straw had broken the camel's back long ago and it's clear that the developers aren't gonna change anything narratively or gameplay-wise since "it just works". Watching videos like these is entertaining though.

reading the comments is hilarious. Genshin fanboys legit CANNOT accept that the story is mid as hell. do Genshin players play other games ? do they actually know what good storytelling is ??? because i feel like i am going insane lmao Sumeru or even Fontaine are NOT GOOD. YOU LITERALLY SPEND 2 FULL FONTAINE ACTS DOING FUCK ALL IN A PRISON TAKING THE SAME ELEVATOR FOR LIKE 5 TO 6 HOURS. but let's forgive it all because Neuvillette has a cool half a minute cutscene. that's not good writing. 💀💀💀💀

when the multibillion $ company isnt willing to spend enough on their game

The story was great, people who say otherwise are the story skippers or the ones that are too shallow to comprehend it fully and all that it entails or are the type that want fairy tales with happy endings spoon fed. This is old news and Sumeru storyline is in one of the most liked ones.

Honestly yeah, besides Sumeru act 2 and some of act 5 it really wasn't that great. Better than the previous arcs for sure, but that isn't much of an accomplishment tbh. Definitely still impressive for Hoyo, hell, Chinese game wise at least.

Sorry, but someone will say it. The death of Rukadevata and Focalor was not really sad. They came out of nowhere, they come almost out of nowhere, to die like NPCs and then people came back to mention them. They are literally women in the fridge. 💀

I would say that Genshin Impact has similar issues that a certain Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game called World of Warcraft has. Genshin however is not Hostile towards its story like WoW is. To me it just feels like Genshin is to afraid to take actual risks.

zero points were made i fear

Don’t even intend to watch it, clickbait = dislike

sumeru main quest is weak but the whole aranara quest is pure gold