Thoughts on NIL...Pros and Cons. Thoughts on a certain coach who seems to have a problem because his program may no longer be on top...lol

Definitely need to do Jeff Scott being on the hot seat in South FL. I love JS but he is bombing hard in FL

Nebraska

Do one on different ways to tare&feather Tech's Athletic Director that would be a good one.

Not sure if you have done this one yet, but Texas Tech would be a good one, idk why but I've always been interested in how they have been so lackluster for so long for reasons other than a horrendous defense

I believe they both have better football teams too

Ik two kids that went to Mercer over Tech too

Bruh playing in the ACC will get you more exposure than all those sorry school. GT is sorry too but they play Div 1 competition. No of those schools have that in the league they play in.

@@kelvingavin9519 literally all of those schools are d1 they're just not ACC and Tech getting curbed stomped by basketball schools every week will draw recruits away and is not great exposure

@@headhunternick I'll take a stomping by Clemson 2 chips recently Ga chip last year, overated Note Dame then to play a school I have to Google to find out who they are. Exposure is everything. We lost J Gibbs to Alabama but if he stayed he still is a first round pick.

Yeah, you know your program is bad when athletes would rather go to SBC then play for tech.

I'm one of those Dawgs that want to them stay in the mud. Their fans are so annoying and I could never root for them.

It’s gonna take a while unfortunately, I knew it would be a bad couple years under Collins because of how big this rebuild but now it’s apparent this guy really cannot coach, which has done nothing but dig us in a deeper hole. So now our only hope is maybe firing this idiot and putting chip long or somebody fairly competent in place and really turning things around. Sorta like pepper Rodgers era leading into Bill Curry, or Bill Lewis into George O Leary. We’ve been in these shitty situations before but unique to tech we’ve made a quick recovery with the right guy in place.

@@joshuasimmons8160 As GT fan I'm impressed you can write.

@@kelvingavin9519 1990

As a GaTech fan, I appreciate it, I can never really *hate* the dogs too much, because I have good memories watching them with my dad when I was younger, I became a Tech fan because one of my friends was one. Means a lot you want us to be good, because that just makes the rivalry all the better. As for the rivalry... at least it's better in other sports.

Like Duke, the only students that will be in the stands is the marching band -- 2000 grad.

All Paul did was win and he'd have a ten win team every 3 or 4 years. They wanted to upgrade their foot all program..fans never appreciated grandma Johnson even though the dudes was an offensive genius..

As his brother, I can confirm. So much for having a good football team while in college :(

@@ronniejdio9411 Paul Johnson won in a weak ACC anytime GT played a good team they lost. Once Dabo got Clemson ticking it was over. ACC is terrible and Clemson is moving to SEC so GT should move to sunbelt which is sad

@@anthonyhernandez6230 yeah tech fans are so football illiterate they can't appreciate winning ten games once every 3 years with grandma Paul. Enjoy 3 wins a year for a decade in an acc thay still sucks

GT fans didn’t want Paul Johnson gone, nor did he get fired. He retired. Was GT suppose to find another coach that runs the triple option to replace him? There wasn’t a lot of good triple option coaches out there to replace him with. GT had to move forward. There was bound to be some growing pains transitioning out of the triple option, and I think Tech fans have been patient and understanding of that.

If the only criteria you are using is football, then that is probably why you feel that way. The AD still has brought in more funding in the last years. Other sports programs are doing well. Emotionally, I too would have fired Collins. But financially, it would be another disaster and then there is the fact that if you don't give coaches somewhat of a guarantee, they won't come in the first place. By the recruiting numbers, he(Collins) has done fairly well. I think were they have blown it is the game planning and execution. Calling the right plays at the right time and then also the players have to do better and not make mistakes.

I feel the same about Stansbury as well. In his interviews he sounds like he doesn’t care about the athletics. His only good hire has been Pastner and Pastner has done a pretty good job.

Kind of like Paul Johnson??

This is the worst idea I’ve ever read…

Georgia tech a P5 school ain’t no reason for them to just be recruiting 3 Stars and Down they need to try to build Something up to make players Want to Come to that School. Don’t just settle for Scraps. They a P5 school for god sake

@@joanndavis6240 no Willingham is actually proven

@@andrewclough9717 lol you must have never really watch college football then. Look at Tyrones 2 recruiting classes at Notre Dame and his 4 at Washington. Brady Quinn and Jake Locker… pfff yeah who would want a coach who can get actual talent at the QB position

Agreed. Need to recruit smart, nasty football players from Northeast. My dad played in 89-90 and he said that was the recipe.

Just seen the schedule ….🤯🤯🤯🤯

I don't get the criticism of the recruiting when #42 is good for Tech. Hopefully the offensive assistant coach hires can turn things around.

I miss when we were good

Yeah Collins simply can't coach w/the big boys..Damn shame, because he had the right idea w/ the "404" themed recruiting tactic..lots of talent around metro Atlanta.

@@bles05 oh man, you nailed the jams with Coach C! He’s promoting the 404 way of doing thangs in the for realz ATL down on the main side, baby. The “new look” jackets and the “404” attitude that’s taking over the gold, blue, white, yellow and black are gonna win the ACC in 22!!! Whoop! Whoop! Time to show our ATL pride here with the 404 ‘tude and winning ways return the those ATL flats with that rambling wreck that coach is coaching up in the 404! Whoop!

As a Tech fan, that hurt to read, but I have to admit it's funny

When you are on the bottom, your schedule is always hard

@@Athon08 more like they face UGA every year and face Clemson and Norte same a lot

@@rebo7902 if GT was top of the conference their strength of schedule would be easier. You have a lot to learn how SOS is calculated

With Chan Gaileys recruits… People seem to forget that part

@@FightWinDrinkGetNaked my argument is if you can switch from a spread to option, why can't you switch from an option to a spread?

@@richardlellip.e.m.b.a.7969 I was an option QB… it’s very different. The players that fit an option scheme are a different build/type. In pro style/spread systems, you need a taller QB, bigger, taller olineman, and speedier, shiftier WR’s. In an option system, leverage is key, so you have shorter, stockier lineman, QB’s that are generally shorter (affects vision in the passing game) and shiftier, and receivers that are willing to block, and can catch some deep go routes. Pro style/spread players can switch to an option scheme because of athleticism, option players are selected specifically for the system. You’re not going to see many option QB’s that have the accuracy, height, or arm talent to play QB in a spread system. Take Keenan Reynolds from Navy: amazing, dynamic, record setting option QB…. With a 50% completion rate. He had to switch to receiver/RB to have any chance in the pros.

I went to that game. I missed that.

As a Clemson fan I can confirm that. Fans were laughing and yelling "lift some more weights" during the game.

@@kelvingavin9519 don't know how, even the commentators were laughing abt it on TV

Lol none of the players were first or second string

@@CAndrewK what does that have to do with anything? It happened & that's all that matters

On his interviews he sounds like he doesn’t care about the athletics at the school.

Gus is going to be coaching a Big XII team in two years. If UCF wasn’t jumping up to P5, maybe. But what does GT have to offer him that he doesn’t already have?

it's Chad Morris, Georgia edition

Let’s also not forget that Collins basically said he doesn’t care about the fan base or what they think. And it’s hilarious that every bad thing that has happened during the Collins era is automatically somehow Paul Johnson’s fault. There is zero accountability in the program now.

Yeah temple was rollin' at that time.

One can only hope.

I'm sick of coach waffle house.

Three years, not two.

Actually I can’t eat at Waffle House anymore because of him😂

We finally fired him. It is a huge sigh of relief especially since we also fired our athletic director so now all our sports can get a fresh jump.

😂😂😂😂

The stadium is never full until they play Georgia because that's when all the real fans that how know how to support their team comes in wearing red

2-10 in 2022.

Yeah that’s what everyone says about Texas but here we are in 2022 and it finally looks like they might end up in the top 25 at the end of the season (maybe lmao). Georgia tech is similar to Texas (not to be confused with on par with UT as a program historically just right now) in that a lot of the top talent in the country is local and should land more guys in state than they do or just waste the ones who they do successfully recruit. A&M like Georgia will be the 1st choice of top guys in state currently , and midteir or Higher mid Teir recruits would traditionally go to Gtech or UT as second choice. But now many of the those guys will go to even smaller schools like GSU, KS, TCU, SMU ect.. start immediately, ball out and transfer to top program for 1 year before getting drafted. New Rules with endorsements and transfer portal accessibility will create a big gap for top 10 programs and rest of top 25 but I think a lot of the smaller programs will get more competitive and balanced too. At least that’s what I am predicting

What were the 2 games that you went to last year?

Tech just does not give its football program enough financial resources to be competitive. It’s an academic powerhouse through and through. Football is just an afterthought.

It’s sad, the competitive tech program I grew up with is now a bottom feeder of the ACC. It’s pathetic and sad what this coach had turned this program into.

@@evanwilliams9588 yea one of the reasons we hired Johnson is cause his system doesn’t need the best athletes to succeed

5 stars aren’t smart enough to meet the acceptance requirements. That’s why Standford created an athletic academic program so the players didn’t have to be that smart. Sad but true

@@Athon08 well he showed us his first year at tech he can recruit well and tech can do fairly decent in recruiting, if only he could coach worth a damn we would’ve probably seen an even better recruiting class maybe 🤷‍♂️

Tell that to the 1990 GT squad.

Paul "peejay" Johnson, aka Pajamas, took one look at the shytty Roster that he Recruited and decided to QUIT on GT FB Had Pajamas looked at the Roster & saw All-ACC Talent everywhere & a possible 11 win Team, then he wouldn't have retired Pajamas retired because he Recruited the Roster into oblivion Take a look at both the Offensive Line & the Defensive Line that Pajamas left behind and no one, not even Saban could've won more than 3 Games Pajamas ran an unpopular Triple sloption Offense in a State where many HS Recruits go to the NFL & dream about the NFL, so after 11 years of GT not being in the Business of sending guys to the NFL , essentially destroying Recruiting inroads at many GA HSs, then after this 11 years of destroying Recruiting Infrastructure in-State we had many idiot GT Fans that expected CGC to just turn thing around overnight, the AD Stansbury knew how much damage Pajamas had done which is why he gave Collins 7 years instead of the normal 5 yr contract After what CPJ left behind we were damn near like SMU climbing back from the Death Penalty, but since so many GT FANS know little to nothing about CFB, they refused to see it Re-watch the Minnesota Bowl Game and then imagine the losses off of that Team, that's what Collins was walking into, a depleted Roster that caused the previous lazy Recruiter of a HC to up & quit If GT was serious about Winning we'd hire a guy like Art Briles, imagine what he'd do at GT recruiting in the 13 County Metro Area All you CPJ apologists need to learn a lot about P5 CFB All that being said , Collins should be doing better, he should be cutting guys & doing Roster Mgmt like Saban or Urban used to do and bring in better players while cutting dead weight coaches Like Thacker & Brent Key

Helton was winning alot more at USC than collins is at tech. And he had a 10-3 and 11-3 season Also for what its worth he was 5-1 in 2020. He only had one losing season. which was 2018.

@@JaxRiens Those teams won in spite of him - he inherited good players. Then Darnold got him an extension. USC would have had similar seasons with YOU as a coach. Those wins had nothing to do with his coaching. There is a reason he is at Georgia Southern rn...

222-0 😉

222-0

I meant to say 222 😭

I believe the coach then was George Heismann, the Trophy Guy.

Dude 6 wins What are you thinking?

Zero chance of getting 6 wins, we’ll be lucky to get more than 2 wins.

@@lbalkin Mon 12 Sept. - - -That's 1.

It’s definitely fun watching us blow them out

Paul Johnson retired gt didn't let him go

@@TheNixonone he was forced to retired.

That's the worst thing yall can do

Funny enough sims in the option would probably be one of the best QBs we’ve had

@@winstonlewis5630 could be. I know yall geegia tech people love that option honestly I just feel like you can't win like that these days tbh but who knows

It doesn't have to be an option-ONLY offense, but mix up the plays, the way Friedgen did and keep the other team guessing. The strength of the triple option ended when the NCAA banned cut blocking, and that's the main reason CPJ's last two seasons were not great. Collins came in and totally dropped the plays that would work with the athletes he had and forced them to try to adjust to the pathetic style offense his STUPID OC called.

Tech beat writers confirmed they raised the money to fire Collins but the AD wouldn’t do it

@@jacobgray8633 oh no.

@@jacobgray8633 also can you send a link to that, I would enjoy reading that but I couldn’t find it

@@gooser__43 giving myself a thumbs up? are you talking about me? i've only commented a handful of time in history on here. Not such a douchhammer that i'd thumbs up myself. I'm an adult who knows the internet isn't real so i don't live for likes lol.

Tech won a national championship with the same academic standards. Just go get a great AD and head coach. Now that we have NIL and all the big Fortune 500 companies I. Atlanta no reason to suck at any sport.

tech recruits the same players everyone else recruits. Admission standards for tech football players are not the same as for regular students. The situation is the same in Athens, Clemson, Chapel Hill, etc.. There have been plenty of dumb as hammers football players at tech over the years. Robert Lavette had to have a private tutor to teach him to speak intelligent enough English to give any interviews. The myth of "high entrance standards" has been disproven for many decades.

He wasn’t wrong about the lack of talent. The roster was the least talented it’s been since the 1980’s if not longer. And why does he have to kiss CPJ’s ass?

The roster we have now *is* the one thing that has improved over the last 3 years, though. His management of expectations is what he fucked up early on, but he was right about how bad the roster was. The one year CPJ had a roster as bad as what Collins inherited we went 3-9. Now, that doesn’t explain why Collins went 3-9 last year. That’s inexcusable. But him trashing Paul Johnson was fairly justified in my view given that I’ve talked to boosters close to Stansbury that said CPJ had an agreement with Stansbury to recruit non-triple option players, which CPJ just didn’t do with the exception of Yates. Now, Collins still probably should be fired, but really only using last year as a data point given that he did beat win projections his first two years at GT. People really just didn’t know how bad of a state GT football was in, and aren’t willing to extend him any credit even though last year was his first truly miserable coaching season.

@@andrewclough9717 Completely agree. While I expect Alumni from a school like GT not to vibe with the money down and think it’s a pretty bad miscalculation on Collins’ part, his criticisms of CPJ were fairly justified.

@@andrewclough9717 what I was saying was that regardless of whether it was true about the talent level it still is not something that should have been said publicly. You are basically saying you wanted the job but not the players.

@@andrewclough9717 ok, let's put a little perspective on this. Did Smart trash Richt over and over after he took over? Or acknowledge what Richt had done then change the narrative to be about HIS program?

If he looses to WCU or Duke for sure

Uh, there is this team in Athens, Georgia that you may want to follow. I hear they are pretty good 😉

@@porterosbournejr.5083 If you live in GA and follow college football, you get pounded in the head with UGA info, like it or not. To follow GT and GSU, you gotta do some digging, GT not so much but GSU, ain't much news on them. As a GSU graduate, there is some allegiance there. Go Panthers!

Defense wasn't there problem wen they were the rambling wreck

You're exactly right here. Even over at UGA, Smart tweaks thr defense and offense to who he's got, not necessarily what the system is. Collins just is dead set to 'run the system' no matter who he has. And y'all are stuck with him a whole season still or else his buyout is HUGE.

For real, my thoughts exactly watching Collins' 1st game w Tech..I was so disappointed, I knew what was coming...

@@gooser__43 yes

I’d like to chime in, if I may. We should have never been in that position. We were favored to win by 19 points. The fact that we were even in that position against a team that hadn’t won a game in almost two seasons is unacceptable. While I completely agree with the fact that the ball hit the ground, that situation should’ve never happened.

Damn where did mason go? I thought he was gonna shine since the Backfield was all his this year

Fired the best people on the staff? Our OC was horrendous, he couldn’t even manage to put the right personnel on the field. You can blame the OC for the lack of development of Sims. Choice couldn’t coach, only recruited. Coleman had zero coaching experience, glad to see him go. We brought in Wenkie and Coach Long to fix the offense. None of that will change the fact that we haven’t had a healthy offensive line since CGC has been there and still don’t have a DLine. As I ask any Tech “fan,” who are you gonna hire? Who is it? Collins is guilty of not managing his staff, and that has changed. What else is he to do? The rebuild was scheduled for five years, the contract is for seven. This asshat that made the video didn’t even discuss what it takes to turn over 84 scholarships from the TO. Nebraska still hasn’t recovered from walking away from the option. It took Oklahoma 12yrs to get things right after walking from the wishbone. But it’s supposed to happen at Tech in four? Gtfoh

@@marzelsimmons8708 Mason graduated. Griffin transferred to Oregon St, leaving D. Smith to run the ball.

@Grant Arden how are you not able to wear a Georgia Tech jersey in public? I have been a Purdue fan my entire life and from 2013-2016 they were awful. They won 9 games in 4 years but I showed up to every home game and never gave up on them. Now Purdue was 9-4 last year. Rebuilds take time. All Georgia tech has to do is fire this Geoff Collins guy and hire a smart strategic coach that can turn this thing around. It just takes time.

@@gooser__43 Yeah, talented players like Frazier and Little had nothing to do with it🙄

Are you talking about for 2022 or for 2019? If 2019, Choice has had just one season under his belt as a RB coach for North Texas. Even after 3 seasons at Tech, how do you just take a position coach and elevate him to head coach?

@@TheKiman2 I understand it’s a move that doesn’t fit the typical experience resume of winning. However I do think Choice is a better fit for the era we are going in. Let’s not act like Choice doesn’t understand football. He played at the NFL level. It does even have to be him but if Tech wants to be competitive they need a coach with a Name more than they need the Diamond in the rough at Temple type of coach. Tech is a hard sell to players considering the lack of fans at games plus challenging academics.

@@TheKiman2 2022

2-10.