Girder forks and more bike parts from India.

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@charlessanborn551 4 жыл бұрын

Late night in Oregon USA...but I spend my most enjoyable evenings in a shed in England 😎

@HankeyMcSpankey 4 жыл бұрын

"he never had a set returned" wow that's an impressive kill rate.

@Anoyus 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@cjb61171 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@terryatkinson3182 4 жыл бұрын

He is lying, full stop!

@nouvalari 4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha.nailed it!

@jasonkristunas9427 4 жыл бұрын

HA ! Spot on

@johnsshed995 4 жыл бұрын

90 years old forks going back on the road . Fantastic ;-).

@billlolah9154 4 жыл бұрын

When i watch your videos, its like having a cup of coffie with an old friend and I always look forword to our next visit.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@ZXBobbyBoy 3 жыл бұрын

“Certainly not horrific”. Your compliments know no bounds my friend. Love it.

@michaelhayward7572 4 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of YT vids out there on the Indian back street Enfield crank rebuilders, engine rebuilders, and sheet metal panel beaters. Quite incredible workmanship and talent, long lost skills in the West.

@handsfree1000 4 жыл бұрын

The guy who did the packing was just making sure they weren’t marked or scuffed during transit 😁

@michaelhayward7572 4 жыл бұрын

I bought an Indian T140 export tank. Fitted it looks like a US spec 60's 650 tank, ie wider. It fits. It does'nt leak. But... The tank badge threaded holes left and right dont line up. One side is straight, one side droops down, so much so, that i had to make a threaded adaptor bracket to level it up. Then my go-to paint man has painted it twice. Bubbles keep appearing, he's at his wits end, insisted the 2nd paint job was free, but i knew it was not his fault. Just some imperfection in the reproduced steel. Never seen nought like it. Now on the 3rd paint job, just putting up with new bubbles... we'll call it character....

@TiberiusWallace 4 жыл бұрын

This is how my mind works - if you're doing two bikes with new front ends two things occur to me about the ones you take off; You could potter at preening them up on the side for future builds but it could be fun to build a complete frame. Either way they're handy.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Typically unused parts of the donor bullets are re sold to help fund the build... I cant vouch for Craigs bike but my front end and possibly my tank (I have a repro early tank to try out) will be sold to help pay back for the girders ive bought here.

@TiberiusWallace 4 жыл бұрын

@@GuitarDan73 my thinking is his frames plus the front ends are just headstocks short of a full frame.

@georgestewart1325 4 жыл бұрын

Great entertaining educational video again Craig. Loved it..

@the1khronohs40 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's quite a difference! Those other ones you could hear the threads clicking when you were turning the nuts. These "new" very old ones you can see there's a slight resistance, and hear a faint grinding in the threads, which in my experience is exactly what you want. Perfect fit. I must say, whoever made those old ones did a damn good job of it. Sadly, building and designing things to last is a thing of the past. 😢

@bsimpson6204 4 жыл бұрын

What a lovely pair of forks, well done! looking forward to seeing these on the bike!

@SimonGough64 4 жыл бұрын

Have just caught up with all your videos just on time for a new one. Happy days 👍

@birbeck87 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one Craig as always 👍

@troywee4774 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the share, i appreciate your efforts! always interesting to watch and listen to. thank you.

@THEDOGHOUSECUSTOMMOTORCYCLES 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Troy

@ericweber1969 4 жыл бұрын

Those BSA forks are BEAUTIFUL! Great find!

@andrewbarlow1707 4 жыл бұрын

Your passion for good workmanship is second to non , great vlog mate 👍👍🏍

@valvegeek 4 жыл бұрын

All mavellous stuff, thank you. :D

@tntcyclespdx640 4 жыл бұрын

Those old forks are going to work out much better, good find! Some things you just cant outsource.

@thomaslemay8817 4 жыл бұрын

You are an extremely optimistic person I would expect to be sweeping up that packing material for at least five or six years.

@MegaCountach 4 жыл бұрын

Nice score Craig! Those are proper forks! Cheers, Doug

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers 😁

@neilholmes8984 4 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks Craig 👍 And if them forks don't go back, I think the idea someone had about making a lamp out of them would be brilliant.... And I'm sure everyone on here would chuck a couple of quid in, to keep you in pocket👍 😁

@treforjones 4 жыл бұрын

Hi In 1961 I rebuild my dad 1932 BSA forks and put new fiber disc in thy were call Ferodo disc look like a biscuit the forks were stove enamel still look good today

@marklittle8456 4 жыл бұрын

Just gotta say having watched this that you have the skills to make your own set from scratch. that would make a fantastic set of shows to follow from start to finish.

@Rob-hx6on 4 жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to seeing you build your own Craig.

@78JGK 4 жыл бұрын

Those forks look awesome just oiled. Can see all the brazing and what not. If they were mine I'd be considering keeping that look if it's in keeping with the rest of the bike.

@mikeymike3240 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Craig, I’d leave them as is, it adds patina/character. Black enamel paint and a paint brush, simples. Niiiiiiiic one. 😎👍👍👍🇬🇧

@roadracejoe 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always Craig, looking forward to watching the 350 builds 👍

@nightster6378 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful car!

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

@@nightster6378 car?

@ian7666 4 жыл бұрын

Lovely job. Hope you got some good “before” photos - they’ll be unrecognisable when finished 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Ive got the original pics saved from the Ebay listing 😉

@ndeep45 4 жыл бұрын

Good morning I have had a few bits that I have experienced quality control over, I do like that seat it looks to be fair. I had the washer part on the pan come separated because of the welding but it's been in service ever since on my Harley Davidson 45. I enjoy watching your builds and the BSA forks your working on. Nice job so far.

@andydennis9410 4 жыл бұрын

Fair play to you Craig slight cosmetic defects at the price you can handle , but when it comes down to structural and steering geometry problems its a no no . hats off to you because some unsuspecting people would not have checked them out and fitted them . great informative video

@alstone5257 4 жыл бұрын

wow BSA how cool is that , it is lovely

@davidwhite9293 4 жыл бұрын

Your the the boss you know your stuff

@lordflinty 4 жыл бұрын

can't wait to see those old forks when you've done your magic on them! I think one of the problems with a lot of stuff from the Far East is that although there may be just one company supplying those forks to your UK supplier and has been doing so for years, that manufacturer/supplier typically sub-contracts out a lot, maybe even all, the actual production work and so quality control is going to be very difficult to enforce ... good luck on getting your refund

@lukemagee462 4 жыл бұрын

"When something is covered in rust its always a gamble " - at least you know its metal and not filler though!

@750triton 4 жыл бұрын

I did a hand change set up for a chap in Devon. It was quite heavily pitted and taking it apart was a trick. I had them heavy coppered and then nickel plated. Reassembled they looked stunning and not a pit to be seen. That wing nut for instance would come up beautiful

@andywarrington4738 4 жыл бұрын

nice one , damper discs look ok

@fatbass0561 4 жыл бұрын

Craig, there is no need to justify yourself when it comes to crappy products as they come from all around the world. The person having a go is the one thinking that way. It never came across to your subscribers as anything else as a company putting out crap. Thanks for another vid. 👍

@minuteman4394 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Craig , Hope you get your girder woes sorted . Like you I have bought loads from India etc over the years and been generally happy but like anything there is always the odd rogue sale which is the beauty of going through ebay, Ali Baba etc as they almost always side with the customer .

@charleskyler1928 4 жыл бұрын

If your going to make one... like your frames, make a jig and let the orders roll in.

@daveharriman2756 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid mate, love your reasoned approach, have subbed, these look like the forks I had on my 1937 BSA B20, but I think the damper 'wing nut' was made out of brass, cheers, Dave

@CountJohnnySpinoza 4 жыл бұрын

Plus one on the half-width front hub. I used to run one on Slo Poke (my Enfield bobber) and it worked just fine - by period standards - and looked much better than the TLS.

@majorscope 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Craig, You can use Araldite on the pits and smooth it out before powder coating.

@glenndavis479 4 жыл бұрын

Without a doubt the analysis is "Chalk & Cheese" and the difference between them both would be the factor.

@andyc750 4 жыл бұрын

suggestion for the pitting,, plenty of filler primer and truck chassis paint will take care of that and is as tough a finish as anything else out there, and cheaper than powder coating as well

@NageswaraReddy 4 жыл бұрын

Terrific 👌 work

@keyboarddancers7751 4 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Jack Hargreaves' Out of Town and Old Country. Wonderfully relaxing.

@TurboJunkie1 4 жыл бұрын

You can always use filler.. that would be acceptable in India 😂🤣😂🤣😂.. done the beeswax thing on some wheel spacers and spindles. Working out a treat.stuck one of the spacers in a tub of water the same day I seen your video.. and it still hasn't rusted. Cheers for the idea 🤘🤘

@citizen8650 3 жыл бұрын

a very lucky find, cant wait to see them in situ, on another note...... has anyone mentioned that you look like Ray Winston? all the best "H"

@shazbotic 4 жыл бұрын

We live in exciting times.

@Uncle_Chuck 4 жыл бұрын

Once u got ya money back name the business on eBay to save someone using them

@junglie 4 жыл бұрын

What a difference to that ebay junk craig, sent a link to your last vid on the indian ones to my mate in aus whos a custom bike builder to warn him & all his mates abot them, ATB.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic

@Wooley689 4 жыл бұрын

You have the liberty to stamp those return forks with a 'defect stamp' as we do in aircraft parts industry, if any identifier number on them be sure to document that. I don't know Craig, but some of that aged look of the forks to me would be desirable, maybe coat with wood stove paint as was done back when those were new.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Its definitely desirable...I suspect ill end up with the beeswaxed finish on the main parts with dressed and mildy polished parts like that tension winder

@HepcatHarley 4 жыл бұрын

Craig that borstal boy at The Workshop is firing shots in your direction :D

@patrickmccarthy7068 4 жыл бұрын

Love the look of bare metal, beeswax is definitely the way to go for me.. cheers!

@acimbobby 4 жыл бұрын

BSA is marked on them. That's got to be good as the engineering is so good. Good buy

@yankeedoodle880 4 жыл бұрын

The guy who built them ones obviously took a bit of pride in his work, back in the day when it mattered. Think they will look great on the bike Craig.

@tntcyclespdx640 4 жыл бұрын

thats the difference between slave labor and craftsmanship. I dont but parts from 3rd world countries anymore because its stolen technology and forced labor. It sucks the world is still this way, but since it is all we can do is what our conscience allows.

@andrewclarke5913 4 жыл бұрын

Good luck with the ebay loon. I source a lot of stuff from China and have had no probs. Just taken delivery of 2kg of beeswax, thanks to that last vid. The old engine oil trick was much appreciated. Factoring the cost of two lots of powdercoating on Dans would it not be more cost effective to use chemical metal/JB on pits followed by high build then 2K? Keep on keeping on drew

@paulpaul5606 3 жыл бұрын

I got 8 inc Lucas light copy from India. I’d say it was 75 % good. not bad had to paint it

@erikeggenbakstad 4 жыл бұрын

If straight 90 percent of job done 👍

@luisantolafrancis519 4 жыл бұрын

Hi there!!!

@geaffmaule7512 4 жыл бұрын

Have a look at a g.p.s speedo, i had all sorts of probs on my ccm 644 as i use 1set of off road wheels and a set of supermoto with difrent speedo drives and nither were acurate. Now i have a speedo that i dont need to play with the drives and its spot on.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

As it will be next to impossible to be done speeding on a 350 enfield id rather have an inaccurate one that looks period lol

@garrybowers2006 4 жыл бұрын

Think we all would be a bit rough at that age Craig 😂🤣take care stay safe ❤

@thebruise 4 жыл бұрын

for the really bad pits JB Weld used as a filler works really well under powdercoat if you didnt know.cheers Rich

@TheOldaz1 4 жыл бұрын

Those BSA forks used from 1927 to 1946. They had light, medium and heavy versions, you appear to have the medium version, so ideal for your build. Check Draganfly Motorcycles in UK. Thanks Craig.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Great info cheers

@jediknight1294 4 жыл бұрын

OK so are we going to see a Craig copy then? I'd love to see you make a leafspring front end if you want something different There are some good guides to make springers now.

@stuartlockwood9645 2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, love the videos, hope you get a full refund on the forks, and the old girders could be BSA M20?,but don't quote me,lol. I had the same kind of friction material on my 1950s Bsa steering damper, and I seem to think they had asbestos and woven brass/ bronze wire ,if you clean them be careful of the dust mate, I've watched a few of your video's, and I like what I see, I was in the motorcycle trade as aprentice in 1964, and witnessed the demise of our bike industry, it was sad but we could see it coming as the imports of Japanese bikes took over, but enough of me, I hope your keeping well, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.

@nemoyuno1627 3 жыл бұрын

Those disks are damper pads. On one side of the assembly is a 3 in. wing nut, tighten or loosen on the fly, according to road conditions. (late reply, I know)

@jaquesdaniels2964 4 жыл бұрын

Not made in a die - they are made in 7 dies which is a week in Australia . yeah , yeah I'll get me coat -its been a long lock down you know . Love that headlight . As I said on the FB page , returning to the UK address could have issues . Just got a handmade seat and mounting kit -560 euros - so that seat is a steal .

@stephengent9974 4 жыл бұрын

You can find out from Ebay if there has been returns for the seller. If he gives you problems, contact Ebay directly. You should be covered by their returns policy, as the item is shoddy. Take lots of photos. Why not treat the forks with epoxy filler or cat's hair fire, which has small strands of glass in. Very strong unlike just powder coat

@geoffreyjones2000 4 жыл бұрын

I use a product called por 15... it self levels and is designed for rust pitting (paint over rust) I sand blast first

@philbeaumont5485 4 жыл бұрын

Craig, there is a bodyfiller vailable that will stand the heat of powder coating, guy called Martin Butler ( Retrorestore & Retrohacks) uses it when he coats parts, worth a look at maybe?

@cliveramsbotty6077 4 жыл бұрын

instinct tells me that's a terrible idea but i'd love to be proved wrong - any chance you could share a link?

@jiltedjohn9294 4 жыл бұрын

Gentle dog , ours would have nearly had your fingers and it's only small .lol

@cunningplan96 4 жыл бұрын

Most powdercoaters can do a high build primer coating. You rub it down then put on the top coat.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Yep...I have a 64 vintage yamaha racer project we had that done on a few parts

@lemmy9996 4 жыл бұрын

If you send them to a UK address make sure that you put a warning ( maybe inside one of the springs) for the next buyer.

@jjrider6758 Жыл бұрын

I reckon the main makers of British girder forks were Webb, Druid and Brampton.. However, I've been in touch with mate who has had lots of pre-WW2 British bikes over the years and he thinks that BSA did make their own..

@zippy0036 4 жыл бұрын

The damping washers look like worn out cutting discs from a 4.5" angle grinder.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

I thought exactly that

@custardslastcake123 4 жыл бұрын

If upsetting people is saving lives you can upset me anytime.

@steveb5584 4 жыл бұрын

Getting rid of the white on the seat Is a good thing !

@cubbers86 4 жыл бұрын

Craig, have you got letter stamps? Could stamp - ‘Do not use’ all over them maybe?

@raythirkettle4155 4 жыл бұрын

Possibly M20 forks? if so, springs might be available...Russell motors if they are still going may have bits!

@jeffersonrodriguesdossanto2579 4 жыл бұрын

I have a M20 1948, and is diferent.

@THEDOGHOUSECUSTOMMOTORCYCLES 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe BSA Sloper

@Anoyus 4 жыл бұрын

Could you build a jug to keep a set of these strait and then heat them up for your beeswax treatment? LOL teach me to comment before the end!

@paweb3530 4 жыл бұрын

Craig, as you have nice example in your hands haven't you think about making a copy of these forks? Or is too much time consuming or complicated? Just wondering :)

@black8art 4 жыл бұрын

Fork geometry is a complicated thing! ..lol When you get into fork design, there are many variables that the builder is not in control of, such as headstock angle, wheel size, brake types and mounting points, which affect how the forks are loaded, and the all important weight of the finished machine. Most custom builders will build the forks to suit their machine. ....and ONLY their machine! I have always liked the look of "springers" but they are not best suited to front wheels with powerful disk brakes, ....well, at least I haven't seen any that were?

@paweb3530 4 жыл бұрын

@@black8art Thanks for telling me things that I already know. - "I have always liked the look of "springers" but they are not best suited to front wheels with powerful disk brakes, ....well, at least I haven't seen any that were?" And you completely miss the point of my question: I was talking about copying forks that Craig was showing in this video, as he wants to put the same one on the project he's doing for himself. He's planing to put this kind of forks on the very old, not so powerfull and slow bike - not on his modern honda with powerfull disc brakes. Also most custom builders don't build their forks - they use already existing ones from other bikes that suit and and have desired functionality and/or look. So what can I say... LOL...

@harrybrown4815 4 жыл бұрын

with modern materials and shock units its possible that this style of fork makes a return, as they would be lighter and stronger than what is available at the moment. This would also mean stiffer chassis construction.

@andyleishman4410 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have a link to the seat supplier Craig? Can’t wait to see the finished bike, you are a true craftsman😉👍

@GrandpaFumblefingers 4 жыл бұрын

Craig; if those forks are BSA, they are at least 75 years old. With that in mind, the copper sintered dampener pads are probably made with asbestos. That was a very common material for brake linings, clutches and the like. Be very careful with them. As long as they are not damaged, there is no danger but if broke ore even worn down, there could be. If it were I, I think I would find a way to get new ones made. At the least, make sure the owner knows. That stuff is deadly.

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Im putting them on Craigs forks lol

@yvonnemartin7428 4 жыл бұрын

Can you not braze all the pitting or use metal filler. Great videos keep them coming. Thanks Malcolm.

@HepcatHarley 4 жыл бұрын

With clever editing you could have put the Indian forks in the box, depends how much you like Dan really :D

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

That wouldhave been so cruel but hilarious.... ive already got Craig, he asked me where they were 'coming from' when I asked if I could get them shipped direct to the shed and I said 'India' 😂

@holdfast7657 4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry about the next person. If they don't end up with this set, they'll end up with another from the same manufacturer. Hopefully they will also know the faults.

@Anoyus 4 жыл бұрын

Like a brake pad. From 50 or 60 years ago? Its asbestos?

@grahamhider3754 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one should come up good. But there be some pitting. That’s my job a shot blaster

@cliveramsbotty6077 4 жыл бұрын

are you in or around london by any chance? need a good blaster myself. thanks

@grahamhider3754 4 жыл бұрын

Live in Peterborough

@jempro1674 4 жыл бұрын

@@cliveramsbotty6077 Me too in London...

@scottishbybirth8436 4 жыл бұрын

You can get high tempersture filler nowadays. It'd be cheaper than 2 powder coats.

@melaniehoward9532 4 жыл бұрын

Craig can you make a jig for those fork.s 😀

@iamthefatstig 4 жыл бұрын

No thumbs down. Del's not seen it yet then :)

@custardslastcake123 4 жыл бұрын

fantastic comment

@MOFTV 4 жыл бұрын

Have you thought about "leading" the forks using solder? You wouldn't have to put a lot of heat in. Might not help the unsprung weight though! :-)

@JA-qy2cd 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Craig A curved ball Do you use a ultrasonic cleaner? I'm inundated with gammy carbs and wondered if you or anyone can recommend a good model for value.

@alstone5257 4 жыл бұрын

model A ford front shocks were a bit like the dampener washers

@emmamartin6476 4 жыл бұрын

these grider forks are nice .. my dad has 5 pairs of new old stock he got off the army in the 60s when they sold off there bsa and nortons and updated there bikes

@GuitarDan73 4 жыл бұрын

Lucky man!

@cigarboxpickandslide2979 4 жыл бұрын

Craig I have been looking for a decent solo seat and really like the one you displayed. Wher can I find one ? 👍

@THEDOGHOUSECUSTOMMOTORCYCLES 4 жыл бұрын

looks like the black are out of stock www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Leather-Harley-bobber-chopper-sportster-Tan-Brown-solo-seat-Diamond-Styl/143576101206?hash=item216dcd7156:g:948AAOSwaktejs33