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Bethany saying "We can't control _everything_ about other people" is very telling. I wonder what parts she thinks they _can_ control.

The slut-shaming crowd also tends to be very quick to judge women wearing baggy clothes and no makeup for “not being feminine enough.” It’s an excuse for them to sh!t on other women, imo.

cried laughing at "dave believes it's butter"

The arrested adolescence across genders in purity culture, for me, has gone from amusing to grating to disturbing. This is like watching two sheltered 12 year olds take twice their prescribed Adderall dosage

"What business does a good Christian woman have on a ladder?!" made me roar. Girl Defined really needs to take some time to contemplate how microscopic their huge scandals are. That was a lot of mileage to wring out of someone else's innocent selfie...

Girl defined is talking about “sexy selfies” as if a sexy pic had never been taken before smartphones. Like do they realize there are literal pictures on film that people had taken of themselves naked to gift to their sweethearts for like a special occasion, or for them to take with them to war and shit. Like literal black and white Polaroids, and reels of film with old fashioned nudes. It wasn’t openly spoken of, but like I saw a picture in the hall of my grandmothers old folks home of a few women in flappers style, in just their hats and beads, posing, and having an amazing time.

I can never escape the impression that bethy has the emotional maturity of a sixteen year old

So....those girls are taking selfies, and she's watching while Dave has moved on. Is it really Dave asking about women taking selfies?

26:10 as a curvier girl myself, the ideology that curves are inherently sexual is so so so problematic and Christian’s such as Bethany and Kristen definitely feed into that stereotype. When they discuss “seductive pictures” they only talk about curvier, fleshier, bigger women, and I have no doubt that if a curvy girl posted a general picture they would see that as sexual because they have been so conditioned to strip women of their humanity and objectify them, especially those who are different to them (none Christian women, six workers, non conveniently attractive etc etc). People with ideas such as Kristen and Bethany, perpetuate such dangerous ideas that could cause real damage to real women. Wonderful video btw

Wow I just love it when misogyny and purity culture runs so deep that women are telling other women to cover up, and that simple selfies are too much. /sarcasm

I suspect they're against the idea of women being forced to wear a burqa.... but they think they have the right to impose *their own* arbitrary standards on women. They come across as arrogant and even narcissistic every time I hear them speak. 😒

When tanner Is mouthing what they say. Lol his expressions are so on point

59:27 love their absolute projection throughout this rant. Everyone is attention seeking, everyone is chasing external validation, everyone has bad motives. Really just telling on themselves over and over. 😂

The Dave crush 😂. I hope he knows we’re rooting for him 😢😂

42:00 she condemns people from getting validation outside themselves but that is literally all that she does except with god.

Y'all slayed with this episode. So many good jokes! Smart and sexy at the same time, who knew!

Hoping you two can tempt Dave every day

I think the funniest part is her saying “I don’t know if I’m saying that right.”

You guys are definitely my dream blunt rotation though

Tam and Sanner are in the effing hilarious zone today, and together you had me ROFL.. Isn't Bethany the original Violet from Charlie's Chocolate Factory? I'd recognize that accent (spoiled brat) anywhere! 'Daddy, I HATE girls!' On Saturday they're dragging hussy competition 'witches' to the stake to be burned. On Sunday, they weep at Jesus' feet for the sins of those hussies! These are the original mean girls defined.

55:28 Omg, Tanner! Did Kristen's spirit speak through you? Now i want to see a video of you two re-enacting a Girl Defined video with their audio!

I like how they made this whole video when they could have just said "I have no self esteem or confidence". Also I love to invision Dave getting caught oogling hawt women out in public and then his cover just "I'm so confused if this on purpose"? Lol

My last social media post was a pick of 3" tall anthropomorphic rabbits painting their future "municipal tea house." A lot of double-sided tape was involved. I _am_ married already, but I feel like at this point in my life, I'd be doing the same stuff... the "defined" ladies kind of make me want to post something unwholesome by their 'standards.' Smh... ETA: My partner learned the word "thirst trap" after finding it in the _New Yorker,_ realizing it was unfamiliar new slang, feeling old, and then googling it... so it's possible to just be sort of old and busy...

I hate how they speak about curvier women being more sexy and showing off when that's not always the case. As a sex repulsed asexual and former christian the last thing I want is for people to find me sexy. When I think back about the clothes I wore to hide my body when I was part of church I hate how comments like these made me feel like I couldn't wear what other girls wore so I wouldn't attract attention to me 😑 What we choose to wear does not define how worthy we are!

Thanks for posting this 72-minute thirst trap, hot girls ✨️ (Nah but seriously these women seem deeply unhappy and I'm not sure they realise it. (Bethany can't even realise that Dave is deeply unhappy so 🤷🏻‍♂️))

the thirst trap thing, where she pretend she doesnt know what it is might just be faked for their super young and super old people watching. since they might have people in their audience who dont know so she pretends to get a spot in the vid where they can explain what it is. so weird to be like this vid is for an out of touch 80 year old and a freakishly sheltered 7 year old. i really wish i knew what their demo was

"...of who God created women to be" - there is a strange singular nature to what she said as if god wanted to create the same one woman over and over again with no variation because to adhere to their beliefs one has to greatly inhibit expression and individuality.

this episode was particularly hysterical

Do they know that Selena Gomez is the third most followed person on instagram? Her photos are going to get tens of thousands of comments even if it’s not a butt pic

God removed Adam's ribs so he could blow himself, DUH

So psyched for more Weyland.

Why does Girl defined have to yell at everyone?

You are both gorgeous! Keep up the great content

Another great Girl Defined take down 😃Thanks for doing this! Hypocrisy alert: Kristen & Bethany have totally appropriated the language, accent and cadence of vapid pop culture young women. They do NOT sound like people from Texas.

8:54 Ugh. Gotta love that she needs to make an issue of something that didn't concern her. I felt that way when I was a teen and super insecure. Bethany is more obsessed with other woman's bodies then Dave has ever seemed to. Dave is coming off so sweet begging for a couple pic. 17:45 Embrace every stage of your life. It is true that as long as you can feel confident, you can be sexy. I don't like Bethany for her toxic beliefs. But I do see how uncomfortable she is in her own skin and feel bad for her. There is an arrested development. And a forced "confidence" when she started that sexy course. But I can understand that purity culture has created these mindsets.

"A restaurant??! One of GODS ESTABLISHMENTS!!??" 😂

Can we just discourage anyone from doing anything by characterizing it as "just doing it to get attention?" Like, are they making videos on youtube just to get attention? Did Jesus die on the cross just to get attention? It sounds like maybe the most godly thing to do is never get out of bed.

Posting a thirst trap right now for my other fundamentalist christian girl wolf.

at 55:30 when kristen talks about feminist movements and ideas but then puts it as "women were told that it's okay to/they should..." that's a really glaring instance of something i think they do a lot, shifting the framing from choices women and girls consciously make inside a sexist society to them just passively going along with whatever is trendy. completely erasing womens roles in shaping those cultural norms in the first place

In Bethany's defence, it could be pure cringe about her tween years because I FEEL that lol deconstructing from Purity Culture I'm now at the ripe ol' 27 going through my Manny Santos "not cute, not adorable - HOT" stage. So any remembrance I was a cringe lil dorky teen who wore butterfly tops when out, and took jailbaity selfies when in my room, is just a big AAAAHHHH. I feel it ruins my cred that I'm trying to build. So I get it. I get cringing at your childhood self. I actually hate my childhood self because she was so the opposite of cool lol

Finally someone understands - the struggle is real ❤ So often, when I look at fundamentalist Christian women I think to myself: "Why are these women shamelessly showing off their hair and neck?" I wanted to convert to Islam in my youth specifically because the dress code for a lot of catholic nuns was too loose for me back then 😂 Still to this day those thoughts creep into my mind uninvited, I can't shake them off completely. Religion has changed my way of looking at women forever 😢

Everything about this video is amazing! And your thirst traps definitely trapped me!

VoLUPtuous not VoLUMPtuous, damn Kristin if you're going to criticise at least say it right 😂

I'll admit, I wasn't entirely sober when I first watched this and how Tanner lip-synched them kinda freaked me out so I had to come back later lol Totally my responsibility though, you two are cuties and thanks for the video

Seeing how much Bethany has transformed since this is 🤯

37:44 you wanna talk old, I had an instamatic. You had to send the film in and wait for the pics to come back in the mail a week later...

There's a lot to comment on in this video but I CANNOT stop wondering if Kristen and Bethany really don't know that there's no "m" in "voluptuous"

The posing at the end was amazing!

Meanwhile I stopped posting pictures because as a woman with a large chest and butt, I felt sexualized too much. Being told you're always trying to turn people on when you're already so insecure about your body, for me personally, is a really horrible experience. So I'm sure some girls do it for the reason of being more flirty, I really hope people stop making those assumptions about people.

I love the vibe of both of you! 🤍

Healthy shame vs toxic shame: to summarize, Jacquet writes: “When shame works without destroying anyone's life, when it leads to reform and reintegration rather than fight or flight, or, even better, when it acts as a deterrent against bad behaviour, shaming is performing optimally.”

i bet if you asked them if they saw a man posting a picture with his shirt off they’d have no problem. why is it so wrong if afab people post our bodies

26:59 She is an ahole with that insinuation. Growing up and in my teens developing fairly early. I felt shame in my curvy body at 14. I would wear oversized shirts and pants to hide my figure because of that messed up patriarchal sexualization of children. I wished I was like her where I didn't have curves. Finally grew up and out of that mindset but she is ticking me off. I hope no curvy teens are discouraged even more by her comments. Most girls just don't want to dress frumpy because they have curves. They want to wear pretty clothes too. 39:37 Well Bethany looked like she intentionally lied that she would NEVER take a seductive photo. But didn't seem to deny she remembers when Kristen brought it up. I really dgaf because I did try dressing up and makeup with friends in my teens. I just don't judge other people.

I’m a huge fan for years through my exmo journey. Fortunately back in Salt Lake. I would kill to grab drinks with you two!!

Can confirm that older women can appreciate thirst traps as well just maybe in a different form like glamour shots 😂 my grandmother (RIP, she is the reason I have red hair ❤) LOVED having her picture taken, well into her later years. One time my adult aunt found a sexy framed photo of my Grammy at her house (my gma's house) and she was so embarrassed she tried to hide the photo 😂 which my Grammy pulled back out and put it back on display haha. And my other aunt was helping my grammy get dressed one time, and Grammy WANTED her bra strap to show and my aunt told her no 😂 GIRL! LET HER LIVE!! ~~ I always say my Grammy is the only person who would've really understood me as an adult but she sadly passed away when I was just entering my Jr high emo phase. 😢 She was a HOOT! She was so beautiful and funny and smart. I take after her in so many ways. ❤ God, do I wish she was still here. I would convince her to do a sexy photoshoot with me. ❤

LOVE the girl defined videos

Begging on my elbows and knees for the Eagle Scout skit (jk please take your time but I’m excited)

Is there a Grease theme going on today? Dig Tanner's jacket sweater. Go greased lightnin! "Oh, Sandy!" and her friend from the bowling alley ready for one of the musical numbers. Samantha does have something Pfeiffer about her. Those two girls in the video are a bit wayyyyy over-the-top. "Vessels of the Holy Spirit." Ugh. "What we, as Christian women,..." "We aren't part-time Christians." "Confident in our identity in Christ." All the head nodding. Just kill me. Too much of the theory of women must be one way... as dictated by the (toxic) patriarchy. It's cartoonish. And sad. What a guilt trip brain washed mind cage to try to live within.

Your whole mime segment was beautiful and made me cackle i love you guys

50:20 They way they talk sounds a little bit similar to middle school girls when they go through a "not like other girls" phase.

Sorry, it's fine for them to post about seggs and pron every day but SELFIES are the problem

truly one of your best vids i was cackling theeeee entire time so smart so funny so smexy

I agree mostly with you guys, but having several friends working in the medical field, I think they make a good point because they think people should be discouraged from having plastic surgery if it's not medically neccessary. Every procedure carries risks to your health. From what I've understood getting a boob job can be a very dangerous procedure, potentially

THIS IS THE BEST CONTENT EVER

The laughing reminds me of spongebob 😂😂😂😂

Was it on purpose that it was edited to say you “ wanted to send dave a thirst trap” lol that was funny

im kinda disappointed they didnt write a blog post called "should christian women take seductive selfies" where the answer was yes, just for a laugh. maybe one for april fools? ;)

A scene so obscene it should never be seen!!!! 😂

wait why is the photo story actually so funny... they're so rarely likeable I'm shook

I feel like those more vulnerable videos Dave posted - where he’s playing some moody piano and singing sad songs - are in a weird way a form of saucy selfie. 🤔 Am I crazy?

I cried so much when I listened to the Britney book🥺

ive been binging your videos and i didnt realize how much internalized shame and guilt around my sexuality from religion and the patriarchy. I love all of your takes! and how religion is used to shame and control us into compliance to benifit those in power. as a very sexual woman (always have been) i’ve felt ‘wrong’ and ‘bad’ my whole life. thanks y’all for breaking this stuff down in a fun way! ❤️

Sam and Tan have the sexiest sexy selfie 🤳🏼😍

"Save her from the compound".😂😂😂

34:25 Tanner this is so impressive and… a thirst trap???

This video was hilarious and you both made me laugh so hard I was almost spilling my coffee xD Thanks for talking about these harmful fundamentalists while also providing big laughs! This video is one of the best ones I've seen recently on your channel. I realized I wasn't subscribed (I thought I was!) so I just subscribed to your channel

I gotta admit that this is one thing that I still tend to get pretty judgy of. It's kind of one thing to be like "I'm proud of my body and I'm not afraid to show it" and another to say "look at me! Aren't I hot? Pay attention to me pleeaase". It's childish and a little vain. I think we've all done this or something similar when we were adolescents, so I think there's some room to say "it's all in good fun" but if I see someone do this regularly all I see is "this person needs the validation of strangers"

The 3 B’s part was gold lolol

I will say that being sexy and hot does not always get you internet attention. Hot girls Instagram posts flop sometimes. But at least I’m still stunning

I didn't know the term bukakke, though now I realize I'd known the concept, I'm familiar with it. Turns out Japan had censorship laws that required genitals to be blurred, so the directors of the films would focus more on women's [sic] faces. (I'm gay, maybe that's why, though a bit bicurious once in a blue moon, 5.9 Kinsey)

when you guys do it it's called a Shelfie. or a Zelphie idk

If God doesn't want butt selfies, he shouldn't have created butts.

RAUNCH CULTURE 🎉🎉🎉🎉

1:11:49 I’m cracking up because we had the exact same reaction 😭

Is there a selfie landfill ....please notify the public ....before the Martians conclude that we are all birds peering in a mirror ......and invite us as the special guest for Thanksgiving 🦃....

I would love a mime job I HATE talking.

I think "Come unto Christ" uses bots. Look up all the posts that mentions how they were recognised as a top fan (same template), and scroll down their posts/ ads (people spamming ahmen.).

1:07:08 lmaooooo help 🤣😭

it's so weird to me how the sisters can rant about women putting themselves out there and showing off a little while literally wearing a full face of make up (which looks great) and constantly flipping their hair into the right position to look good on camera. where is the difference? the line they draw is so arbitrary and like u guys said, they would be huge tramps back in the days when the bible was written. nothing they say makes sense, they should just leave the other women alone - don't put your own peeps down, for gods sake

It is so hard to watch Bethany and Kristen together because whenever Bethany is talking the look on Kristen’s face says loud and clear, “I don’t want to be here. You are so stupid it’s embarrassing. I can’t believe I have to do this to make money. …and I’m so much prettier than you are!”

Era of curvy or era of bottle blond , what’s the difference?

Rancoeur se prononce comme coeur :) La règle est: c devant a, o et u se prononce comme un k; c devant e, i ou y se prononce comme un s; la cédille (ç) permet de prononcer un c comme un s devant a, o et u. Je sais pas si ça aide :)

23:45 100% true.

Draw attention to your countenance not the shiny shirt?? What??

FLOOZIES

Did y'all speed up their videos? They're talking so fast

Making fun of fake cackle laughter as they fake cackle laugh. Everyone's obnoxious here. Why has this been recommended? OMFG 😵‍💫

Argyle 😛

#holepics4dave