Gransfors Bruks Splitting Maul vs Ochsenkopf /Stihl Pro Axe

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Ben Scott

Ben Scott

2 жыл бұрын

splitting wood with gransfors bruks splitting maul and ochsenkopf spalt fix /stihl pro splitting axe

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@matte8433
@matte8433 2 жыл бұрын
I have the GB splitting maul and the Ochsenkopf was a beast! The GB splitting maul is possibly the greatest hand tool you can own because it's so effective with minimum effort.
@longlowdog
@longlowdog Жыл бұрын
I kept my family solvent with a Stihl ms261 and a G.B slitting maul for 3 years splitting upwards of 75 cube a year. I've now had that axe almost 30 years. It's still on the original shaft. It is a heritage piece that my son also learned to split with and I'd be devastated if it was ever lost to me. I've considered buying the new Husky branded one and mirror polishing the old one and bringing it inside but it still just cries out to be worked. I've never bought into the macho splitting larger rounds in half since I was taught by an old woodsman 35 years ago to work round the sides first making shorter splits with less effort. It's great to see someone who really knows how to swing an axe. There's another guy on KZfaq who slates the G.B and it is laughable how badly he limp wrists the axe either by design to make a point or through pee poor technique.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper Жыл бұрын
Yeah only time really it pays to go through the middle on big rounds is knotty softwoods but on most other woods slabbing the side works best
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper Жыл бұрын
btw do you have a link to the video you mentioned, always interested to hear the contrary opinion?
@Joey-L
@Joey-L 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize the GB has a concave profile. Almost sound like a counterintuitive design, but it seems to work just fine on that wood. Any axe / maul that doesn't stick when splitting is gold.
@brettbrown9814
@brettbrown9814 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Ben. Really enjoyed it.
@bundufundi
@bundufundi 2 жыл бұрын
I have looked at the GB a few times but the price or availability has usually put me off. The Bahco I use is ok but a bit light and not enough wedge for the more gnarly stuff. Good to see you back!
@naturundhund
@naturundhund 6 ай бұрын
Nice Axes ....greetings from Germany Peter
@Brian2bears
@Brian2bears 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful splitters Mr. Ben, you look to be in good training condition sir. Very nice landscaping and drive also...
@KevinsDisobedience
@KevinsDisobedience 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I couldn’t help but notice the stamped driveway. I used to do some of those. Looks nice. Axe does too lol.
@wesbodine6102
@wesbodine6102 Жыл бұрын
I love that wood clunking sound LOL
@greenfaring2501
@greenfaring2501 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Personally I think I’d like to use the Gransfors. That extra bite, thinner and concave made it seem less bouncy. Of course, I’ve used neither so I’m just going with how I think it might feel in my hands. I like Ochsenkopf in general though.
@brianpriest3638
@brianpriest3638 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way both of those work. I’ll probably wind up with the stihl branded ox head because we have a stihl dealer nearby, and they’re usually on sale.
@EssexCountyPhoto
@EssexCountyPhoto Жыл бұрын
Are the Stihl axes actually made by Ochsenkopf? Cheers.
@kickinthegob
@kickinthegob Жыл бұрын
@@EssexCountyPhoto Yes they are. I bought the Stihl variety in Norway and it has the Ochenkopf stamp on it.
@michaelkearney5562
@michaelkearney5562 2 жыл бұрын
That's really nice wood to split, and with quality tools. You will have some great firewood in one to two years. If the GB splitting maul was heavier, says 8lbs, I would be tempted to get one. As it is, it is too light for the heavy stuff, and it is very expensive. After testing both tools, did you find a preference?
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the ochsenkopf for most woods
@jeffreyrubish347
@jeffreyrubish347 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't use a block that tall but as a scrawny old man I can't generate your chopping force. 😉
@philcowdall9399
@philcowdall9399 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that very much! I just can't decide which to buy....I have two Gransfors already so may go for the Ochsenkopf just for variety! dunno.
@kurts64
@kurts64 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see u back Ben! Cool pair of axes, seemed to work well. Did u get a new place?
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they both are very nice, the ochsenkopf is going to be my new axe for work, ill do an update after long term use
@cchimozmin
@cchimozmin 2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Love the no nonsense reviews. Is that the same model as the one you recommended in your 5axes video? Also do you thin the handles of your mauls? Also what makes a good plinth (or whatever it’s called) for splitting on? Thanks again for great videos. Sorry if my questions seem basic. 😊
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
Its a different axe from my 5 axe video but its similar in use. I do thin splitting handles a bit but nowhere near as thin as felling axe handles. For a block to split on just use any large rou d of wood
@940joey2
@940joey2 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Ben, it’s always a pleasure. What kind of grind do you use on your splitters .. I have about 35 maybe 37 degrees and I feel like it could be better but it’s also a splitting maul idk if I’m expecting more than I should be from it.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly i just keep them stock or file the chips out lol
@940joey2
@940joey2 2 жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper thanks Ben .. yeah still pretty new to the whole thing this will be my first year in the cord wood challenge so at the moment I only have 1 boys axe and I just came across a splitting maul. Just from my little experience I think I might put together a heavier axe for splitting to see what I live better mainly for bigger rounds for the smaller stuff I just use my boys axe with the ground method I’ve seen you, Kevin, and Steve use and seems to be very productive. Thanks again
@joehertel8846
@joehertel8846 2 жыл бұрын
I put a 22 degree edge on all my splitting mauls I like it to bite in like an axe then the rest of the heft of the mail head pops it open on some axes I put a 20 but on the ones that have harder steel I've put a 17 degree edge on them and it makes them slice through wood the way my knives slice through onions at work
@dimazimmer175
@dimazimmer175 2 жыл бұрын
Nice axes
@michaelsinclair8279
@michaelsinclair8279 2 жыл бұрын
Nice sized cherry rounds! Have you done any alterations to the handles on them thar mauls?
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
No both are stock
@bernhard7658
@bernhard7658 2 жыл бұрын
Is it the 70cm or the 80cm Ochsenkopf 2,15/3,55kg? The Gransfors Splitting Maul has 3,18kg. Different weight - different tool. It looks like you prefer the Ochsenkopf.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
Both have 2.5kg heads, they are in the same catagory and wieght class of tools
@bernhard7658
@bernhard7658 2 жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper Which one do you prefer?
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
@@bernhard7658 the ochsenkopf, its a little bit less sticky and better on knots. The cost difference is also a nice factor
@bernhard7658
@bernhard7658 2 жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper Thank you very much! 👍👍👍
@moppedmann123
@moppedmann123 Жыл бұрын
Try the gränsfors big splitting axe. It's light weight and powerfull. You can split long time without getting tired
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper Жыл бұрын
Too light for my taste, like at least 4lb head.
@davrossovich
@davrossovich 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, great video have you tried the Helko Saxon splitter? the OsChenkopf looks pretty similar style. I have the Helko and annoyingly have to baby it chopping eucalyptus without a steel collar.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
the geometry looks similar so i imagine they would perform the same. The steel collar is a great thing to have
@roykremer9357
@roykremer9357 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video,what is the chopping block from?.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure, the bark has been removed
@DozeyDragoN
@DozeyDragoN Жыл бұрын
I like both 😊 What axe is there on the garbage can?
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper Жыл бұрын
Old brades 1561
@charliemcawesome5012
@charliemcawesome5012 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody may have said, but of course the idea of a maul is the hammer side of the deal so you can use wedges. A regular axe isn’t finished so you can do that, and metal on metal you are risking the metal “shattering”.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
I think both are really better viewed as spliting axes for the most part. Whilst the gransfors does have a tempered poll, it is very small and not an ideal for wedge driving. So basically both should be viewed as 2.5kg 80cm splitting axes and are very comparable
@alphawolfadventures1470
@alphawolfadventures1470 2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you? I’m leaning towards the ochsenkopf since it has the longer handle which I like since I’m 6 foot. Of course the gransfors is beautiful and would make for a nice Viking prop I think you’re paying for the looks and craftsmanship vs something else you can buy cheaper and will do it just as well
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
I am 6'4", both have the same handle length at 80cm. Which one i think depends on the wood you split, personally i think the ochsenkopf handles most better but the gransfors works better on dry wood
@bengg6772
@bengg6772 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Sorry to reask ;) Did you have any advices about light splitting axe like fiskars x17 or Gränsfors Small Splitting Axe ? Are they usefull for splitting ? (of course small logs than thoses) Or not better than a "classic" axe like hultafors HY10 1.2 ? Thank you in advance. (I have some small diameters logs of hardwood to split but hesitate / dont want to go to heavy axe head).
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper Жыл бұрын
Small splitting axes imho are rather pointless, 1.2kg felling axe works fine for small wood
@bengg6772
@bengg6772 Жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper Thank you for your advice :) Well I will learn with the hultafors HY10 1.2, thin the handle, break it, sharp it and so on :) And see thing coming. Ah and trail to find some steel protection (chain mail for feet and legs in europe). Thx again
@gaborklauzer5222
@gaborklauzer5222 2 жыл бұрын
Ochsenkopf the Best 🤝
@bunkerman99
@bunkerman99 Жыл бұрын
I have both and the Oxhead is a great tool as is the GB. If I had to pick one then the GB by a score of 95-90. It's really that close. The oxhead from Germany is great; the GB just a bit better.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper Жыл бұрын
After one year of use video i actually prefered the ochsenkopf but yes very close, both great
@bunkerman99
@bunkerman99 Жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper I'm 66 now. When I was a young powerhouse the Oxhead just smashed right thru. I bought that maul for $49 in '91. The GB in '20 or so and it gives a better 1st bite maybe bc it's lighter the head is moving a bit faster idk. Oxheads through Stihl are fantastic bargains.
@ivan1u2be
@ivan1u2be 8 ай бұрын
I believe the splitting block should be just lower than knee level
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 8 ай бұрын
It depends, this higher block is nice for smaller wood
@daweed4255
@daweed4255 2 жыл бұрын
Ochsenkopf does make a Spaltbeil (splitting hatchet) with a 1.25kg head. Might be nice for your "boars". Did you test it already? I have one without the rotband plus, it does make it a bit lighter and handier. And 20€ cheaper... :D
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the smaller one is nice also, would be great for smaller work
@daweed4255
@daweed4255 2 жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper they have a 1.25kg (70cm) Axe and a 1.25 kg Spaltbeil with a 50cm Esch Handle. I love the Spaltbeil for the easy stuff. I found one with such a perfekt handle and finish, I had to take it with me ^^ and there is no need for a protective caller with a hatchet. If you overstrike one handed with a 50cm handle you need new glases :D
@jukeseyable
@jukeseyable 2 жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper great to have you back with new content. If you are looking to sell some more of your axes, I'm in the market for a hard wood felling axe, feel free to get in touch. Cheers chap, have a good xmas
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
@@jukeseyable will do! Might have some things for sale soon
@jonatamateustrindade543
@jonatamateustrindade543 2 жыл бұрын
Quantos quilos pesa o machado amarelo amigo
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
2500g head
@jonatamateustrindade543
@jonatamateustrindade543 2 жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper Com o cabo ele peza esse peso
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonatamateustrindade543 yes, total wieght with the handle is over 3kg
@maxdemon369
@maxdemon369 2 ай бұрын
Guess im buying a $110 axe from Stihl
@skaagkaal2613
@skaagkaal2613 2 жыл бұрын
My god the handle on the Ochsenkof looks like it sucks. Who the hell did those germans think would be using it? Giants or Olympic level strongmen with hands the size of my foot size?
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
Its pretty big but not the worst ive held
@skaagkaal2613
@skaagkaal2613 2 жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper Surprise, surprise. I don't know when I would get my hands on one. They're about 120 dollars, maybe more, here in the states.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper 2 жыл бұрын
@@skaagkaal2613 is the stihl pro axe also $120? Its litterally the same axe rebranded
@skaagkaal2613
@skaagkaal2613 2 жыл бұрын
@@benscottwoodchopper I didn't even know that. With those Stihl splitters I could find and see those around all over at the local hardware stores. Pulling from memory though, picking those up they were some heavily built axes. I don't know why the designers would believe that much axe is needed for just splitting wood. But everybody like myself creeping around on the channels like yours have had this conversation about why I'm sure.
@CaptCanuck4444
@CaptCanuck4444 Жыл бұрын
I'd still rather have the GB. Form and function.
@benscottwoodchopper
@benscottwoodchopper Жыл бұрын
2 to 3 times more expensive though and isnt as effective as the spalt fix on the majority of woods. I just made an update video after 1 year of hard use
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