Healing and Hope in Crisis: Our Response to the McNamara Report

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International House of Prayer

International House of Prayer

5 ай бұрын

Independent investigator Rosalee McNamara released an un-redacted report of her findings today concerning the allegations against Mike Bickle, the founder of the International House of Prayer in Kansas City (IHOPKC). In this video, Eric Volz responds to the critical findings of the independent investigation and the report.
As our community marks 100 days since the onset of this crisis, we aim to provide a comprehensive overview of the situation, shedding light on the truth and addressing the concerns of our community.
You can also find a copy of the report at the link below.
View the un-redacted report here: lathropgpm.app.box.com/s/vtos...

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@Vlabar
@Vlabar 3 ай бұрын
Judgement is starting in the house of the Lord
@lovingalways5799
@lovingalways5799 5 ай бұрын
To anyone asking why Mike was fired over something he did 20+ years ago It's more his unwillingness to confess everything and repent, even when they came to him in private, he would not confess and repent and how he manipulated millions with his black horse teaching saying he was gonna be persecuted when it was just him hiding his sins instead of brining everything into the light and avoiding all this mess with lawyers and investigations and things
@AlexNesh
@AlexNesh 5 ай бұрын
Golden words
@elizabethgould994
@elizabethgould994 5 ай бұрын
Yes, and to prevent this pattern of his from repeating
@user-zq5jd7ee9n
@user-zq5jd7ee9n 5 ай бұрын
wasn't just 20 years ago. this continued up very close to the present time.
@lovingalways5799
@lovingalways5799 5 ай бұрын
@user-zq5jd7ee9n would you please share the evidence for that please?
@benjaminjohnson6118
@benjaminjohnson6118 4 ай бұрын
Bickle sexually assaulted a pair of teenage girls and you all sweep it under the rug.
@bobharms8787
@bobharms8787 5 ай бұрын
I advocate Prayer. I pray. I love .I forgive. I do not condemn. I hope, trust that when I die sooner rather later I will find the love and perfect peace Jesus promised, for I know the Truth, pure light where there is no variableness nor shadow of turning, and my hope is to finish my course loving trusting he is faithful who calls you. Confess your faults one to another that you may be healed.forgive one another, love not this world because pride is deceitful
@thelatestgreatest8082
@thelatestgreatest8082 4 ай бұрын
What a disgusting garbage comment this is
@benjaminjohnson6118
@benjaminjohnson6118 4 ай бұрын
You sold your witness for power. You are being punished for supporting predators.
@GinaMaeKim
@GinaMaeKim 4 ай бұрын
You should be advocating for the abused.
@KaareneRNHealthLifeCoach
@KaareneRNHealthLifeCoach 5 ай бұрын
I continue to pray for complete healing and restoration for all… I know that is Gods heart… God is for his children even when we are lost he is fighting for the very best outcome for all involved. I truly think they are trying to do their very best… I know there are a lot of outsiders pointing fingers and condemning… I call it the peanut gallery….. it is so hard for outsiders to know all that is going on and for what reasons and it’s easy to point and judge. I just think everyone who calls themselves a lover of Jesus should be cautious not to judge and keep a posture of prayer for this body of Christ.
@annalkleinsasser
@annalkleinsasser 5 ай бұрын
Thanks you said it so well! We must keep interceding and lifting IHOP up in our prayers and ask God to lead and guide all involved and to bring healing for His glory!
@annakirtley8171
@annakirtley8171 5 ай бұрын
Maybe a more accurate thing to say would be the goal and desire is to make IHOPKC a safe place rather than it IS a safe place. That’s where repentance comes in. It has not been a safe place.
@docbarm3338
@docbarm3338 5 ай бұрын
🎯🎯🎯
@rumaabba8875
@rumaabba8875 5 ай бұрын
I love ihopkc , i love ihop. Many allready receive salvation frm by existance of their ministries. Mike didnt have any to do with ur false concern. Bcz The Lord Jesus Christ is the cornerstone inside Ihop. Its so clear religineous personal never receive the Joy of the Lord and Presence of God..
@SylvainRobert-vh9jw
@SylvainRobert-vh9jw 3 ай бұрын
A house built on lies cannot stand... Is it not written that the judgment will start in the house of god?
@sustainingpurpose4922
@sustainingpurpose4922 5 ай бұрын
All that needs to happen is Bickle, Greaves and the team tell the truth. They know exactly what happened.
@GinaMaeKim
@GinaMaeKim 4 ай бұрын
wont happen. The report is a joke. NO THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE YET! On top of ALL OF THIS they waited over 3 months to do this stupid report done by their defense attorney! That is THREE MONTHS+ of shredding papers, hiding emails, deleting emails, etc.... Just think about it. THERE IS A MOT MORE GOING ON AND THAT HAS GONE ON!
@maryfuqua3314
@maryfuqua3314 5 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@ParkerRudolph
@ParkerRudolph 5 ай бұрын
Well said! Thank you for these clear and concise reports.
@GinaMaeKim
@GinaMaeKim 4 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA are you this naive. The report is a joke. NO THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE YET! On top of ALL OF THIS they waited over 3 months to do this stupid report done by their defense attorney! That is THREE MONTHS+ of shredding papers, hiding emails, deleting emails, etc.... Just think about it. THERE IS A MOT MORE GOING ON AND THAT HAS GONE ON!
@kel8150
@kel8150 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Eric; I appreciate the update. I pray that we can move forward in unity. Please, anyone leaving comments, if you have anything that won't be helpful for building up those in need, kindly keep it to yourself. This has been a painful season for many, and attacks don’t help.
@thelatestgreatest8082
@thelatestgreatest8082 5 ай бұрын
😂😂saying thank you to this pr buffoon. this comment is so embarrassing and so naive. This person obviously has no idea what the is going on.
@lionjudah8900
@lionjudah8900 4 ай бұрын
Hey, folks leave the wolves alone to prey on the vulnerable. We want to stay in our safe spaces and don't want to hear it anymore.🙉🙈🙊
@takeheart2926
@takeheart2926 4 ай бұрын
Speaking up against abuse is very helpful. Standing for justice is very loving. Defending abusers is the most unkind thing to do. Enabling abusers is not the heart of God. Silence the truth is not kind at all and it grieves the heart of God. Abandoning victims is very unkind. Speaking out in defense of abuse while not educated about abuse is foolish. Making a big issue about being kind while looking away from abuse and defend and enable an abuser is extremely unkind, cruel and toxic. God is a God of justice. You can choose to look the other way. And maybe here on earth you get away with it. The day you stand before God…. God cares that you abandoned victims and defended an abuser. And your defense was I had to be kind. What is kind about touch minors and women inappropriately. What is kind about sexual abuse and hiding lying and being deceitful. This proofs how broken the church is. When there is sexual abuse. They are going to pad each other on the shoulder and say…. I am kind I am kind look how kind i am. And totally ignore the fact how much evil is in abuse. It’s not kind to put zero value in sexual abuse yet stand proud proclaiming how kind we are. The issue here at hand isn’t… who is kind and who is not. The issue is not are all sinners or not. The issue isn’t here are we forgiving or not. That’s always what every abuser uses to deflect, gaslight and weaponize faith. The issue at hand is a leader hid sexual abuse since 1975. That’s many many years of deception, manipulation, evil and gaslighting. God is a God of justice. Now you maybe care about still pleasing Mike Bickle. The day you stand before God… God cares you defended and abuser. He will hold every one accountable for enabling. And not defending the broken, the hurt and abandoned.
@lionjudah8900
@lionjudah8900 4 ай бұрын
Amen, well said.@@takeheart2926
@lionjudah8900
@lionjudah8900 4 ай бұрын
Amen, well said.@@takeheart2926
@user-wk3zw3oo7l
@user-wk3zw3oo7l 5 ай бұрын
I blessed and prayed for IHOP! I stand with the body of Christ and for truth.
@nickypendleton4066
@nickypendleton4066 5 ай бұрын
I pray that progress will be made..All of the victims must be heard. changes must be made including a theological review of IHOPKC prohetic movement practices..
@docbarm3338
@docbarm3338 5 ай бұрын
The ministry itself must be investigated. Mike WAS IHOPKC and involved in nearly every aspect. Financials especially must become transparent since they left the EFCA since 2016!
@izio4408
@izio4408 5 ай бұрын
Can we just get this over with please...
@markstryzewski3028
@markstryzewski3028 5 ай бұрын
Powerful , encouraging ... a commission of agreed upon leaders that both sides will agree to makes sense. Let's get "all the cards on the table" and work for restoration in the body of Christ.
@kainoaalapai2247
@kainoaalapai2247 5 ай бұрын
You do realize you are being hoodwinked. Open your eyes!
@Guyfrommars183
@Guyfrommars183 5 ай бұрын
There will be no healing without actual humility, actual transparency & actual transparency. :(
@Opinions.aremine
@Opinions.aremine 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the update. Praying Proverbs 3:5-6
@julesdeleon
@julesdeleon 5 ай бұрын
Gaslighting at its finest.
@Innuendos06
@Innuendos06 5 ай бұрын
100%
@geoffreymilke5176
@geoffreymilke5176 5 ай бұрын
Democrats could not have done a more thorough gaslighting job
@lionjudah8900
@lionjudah8900 4 ай бұрын
Well said.
@maryb8774
@maryb8774 5 ай бұрын
As a former sex assault inv and P.I, including trained in workplace investigations, I’ve never seen a more biased, congealed, in-investigated report. It basically addresses the firestorm on and from Twitter. As an inv. I could have cared less about social media and feeling the need to address it. Mike already admitted, so that’s not the issue. It’s the real lack of specification of allegations via statements. Maybe the JDs did not want to talk, but other wits may have. Anyway, just reviewing this from an inv point of view.
@kainoaalapai2247
@kainoaalapai2247 5 ай бұрын
Your analysis makes sense! They hired a defense attorney, not an actual investigator. And this defense attorney was not actually agreed upon by the advocate group. On top of all that, they have had like four months to prepare for this and hide and get rid of any evidence they dont want to come up.
@Innuendos06
@Innuendos06 5 ай бұрын
What a sad and hopeless bunch of words that never want to face reality....
@rumaabba8875
@rumaabba8875 4 ай бұрын
Beyond 20 years ago... what the heck... , why now?? These attacks didnt know that no weapon formed against IHOP shall prosp3r.
@valor101arise
@valor101arise 4 ай бұрын
@@rumaabba8875 it's not just one incident 20 yrs ago. Then I would agree with you. But these issues are on going and recent. One of the reasons Jane Doe came forth was because she saw others being used and abused
@docbarm3338
@docbarm3338 5 ай бұрын
The ministry itself must be investigated. Mike WAS IHOPKC and involved in nearly every aspect. Financials especially must become transparent since they left the EFCA since 2016!
@rumaabba8875
@rumaabba8875 5 ай бұрын
Im sorry , who are u sir? 🤣
@GinaMaeKim
@GinaMaeKim 4 ай бұрын
The report is a joke. NO THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE YET! On top of ALL OF THIS they waited over 3 months to do this stupid report done by their defense attorney! That is THREE MONTHS+ of shredding papers, hiding emails, deleting emails, etc.... Just think about it. THERE IS A MOT MORE GOING ON AND THAT HAS GONE ON!
@jesse65847
@jesse65847 5 ай бұрын
Everybody read the report before you comment.
@GinaMaeKim
@GinaMaeKim 4 ай бұрын
The report is a joke. NO THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE YET! On top of ALL OF THIS they waited over 3 months to do this stupid report done by their defense attorney! That is THREE MONTHS+ of shredding papers, hiding emails, deleting emails, etc.... Just think about it. THERE IS A MOT MORE GOING ON AND THAT HAS GONE ON!
@whengalboroto
@whengalboroto 4 ай бұрын
New crisis came about Misty Edwards. This is sad to be honest like a lot of real issues behind the curtain are now surfacing but this is to no surprise because this is the Lord cleaning his house. Praying for healing and godly repentance in IHOP and godly reformation to happen.
@carpediem4612
@carpediem4612 5 ай бұрын
Was Misty’s song tightrope that u erased here..propehtic?🤔
@dzizitv3228
@dzizitv3228 5 ай бұрын
The minister of truth sounds more and more convincing lika an AI. IHOPkc trying their hardest to protect the cash cow by distancing themselves from Mike.
@JudithGrominger
@JudithGrominger 5 ай бұрын
I am pleased at the discretion regarding the handling of this matter.
@vintageisbetter
@vintageisbetter 5 ай бұрын
Where’s the link???
@optimisticallycynical.814
@optimisticallycynical.814 5 ай бұрын
The bottom of the title script
@Mike-do8bc
@Mike-do8bc 5 ай бұрын
What about the sexual behavior on some of the worship teams? How is that going to be addressed?
@acorz3314
@acorz3314 5 ай бұрын
As a former singer there, it is very much a thing.
@Mike-do8bc
@Mike-do8bc 5 ай бұрын
MB and ELT aren't the only guilty ones here. What did Misty do about this culture in the worship/prayer community at IHOPKC? Other leaders?
@re8837
@re8837 5 ай бұрын
@@Mike-do8bc I'm not sure exactly how involved Misty is involved last few years, but ever since her year long sabbatical in Israel she is almost never on stage.
@carpediem4612
@carpediem4612 5 ай бұрын
But I thought ihop worship was consecrated,with holiest of vessels, pouring out their undevoted love n attention and money for His undivided attention, this Onething🤌😏 True worship and true FEaR of the Lord, would have u trembling n shaking to be in his presence..or preaching with known sexual sin. ..woa is me, I am unclean, Yet ,so flippantly singing to Him whilst living unholy ..WOW that’s a whole level of depravity..as kids we would fear walking into church cuz the old saints could sniff our sins out..or taking communion … today they lead church with smirk on face..truly there is no reverence nor fear of the Lord who could strike em dead… so spill the beans please..the world who watched n bought these songs n worshipped along with sexualized lover Jesus songs, lead by unholy vessels 👌“being led” into an an unholy presence What does light have in common with darkness..burn ihop books n music kids..almighty God is watching what u will do with info coming out.. @@acorz3314
@AlexNesh
@AlexNesh 5 ай бұрын
@@acorz3314omg sorry to hear that 😢
@jimgiacomelli7495
@jimgiacomelli7495 5 ай бұрын
So MB was fired for conduct 0ver 20 years ago?
@elainepetras236
@elainepetras236 5 ай бұрын
RIGHT!!!! and that he AND THE WOMEN repented of!!! What a complete woke joke!!! God protect any of us who has ever made a mistake or two in our past!!!
@ucarouen
@ucarouen 5 ай бұрын
Everyone I write in response keeps being deleted instantly by KZfaq.
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
@@elainepetras236 I have zero problems with the shepherd having a side chick or two. Those bridegroom teachings sure tickled me ears nice🤢🤮
@carpediem4612
@carpediem4612 5 ай бұрын
Ditto.they are scrubbing this too!🤌@@ucarouen
@lovingalways5799
@lovingalways5799 5 ай бұрын
It's more his unwillingness to confess everything and repent, even when they came to him in public he would not confess and repent and how he manipulated millions with his black horse teaching saying he was gonna be persecuted when it was just him hiding his sins instead of brining everything into the light and avoiding all this mess with lawyers and investigations and things
@WilliamMiller-nr5gb
@WilliamMiller-nr5gb 5 ай бұрын
This is the best publication on this matter from IHOP-'KC to date, by far. Thank you for it. 🙏♥️
@kainoaalapai2247
@kainoaalapai2247 5 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂
@bryanbolick4082
@bryanbolick4082 5 ай бұрын
YIKES
@SV-nx6fk
@SV-nx6fk 5 ай бұрын
I honestly don't get this. You have chosen to destroy a godly man and his ministry. Where is the healing and restoration when you have terminated your relationship with him? ... Can you people stop with thinking you have to operate in a manner that the world does in a litigious world and acting to 'protect' your organization. How are any of these actions in keeping with the Gospel? Cast the sinner to curb and spit on him as he wails over some sins he did over 20 years that he and God recognized as under the Blood. The fact that no one can dig up anything closer than 20 years ago should tell you that the redemption work of Grace did its work in Mike's life.
@GinaMaeKim
@GinaMaeKim 4 ай бұрын
You are so naive. The report is a joke. NO THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE YET! On top of ALL OF THIS they waited over 3 months to do this stupid report done by their defense attorney! That is THREE MONTHS+ of shredding papers, hiding emails, deleting emails, etc.... Just think about it. THERE IS A MOT MORE GOING ON AND THAT HAS GONE ON!
@joycecollins7148
@joycecollins7148 5 ай бұрын
What a shame he has admitted,Forgiveness is not a choice it must take place .I to was a victim but thank God for the blood of Jesus both sides need Jesus his heart of forgivness
@rumaabba8875
@rumaabba8875 4 ай бұрын
Beyond 20 years ago... what kind victim u are? Mike got repenctance earlier than u are.. , these outsider attacking ihop bcz they are antichrist influence and u are need forgiveness by the power of God Almighty.
@lizreuber7945
@lizreuber7945 5 ай бұрын
Thank you IHOPKC. You’ve taken the high road. Let’s see if the “advocacy group” is satisfied or continues to desire viral social media posts over the humility you have chosen. May our God bring healing to all involved and complete restoration. None of this surprises Him… including our reactions. He will reign supreme.
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂are you bickle
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@rumaabba8875
@rumaabba8875 4 ай бұрын
I love Ihop, Godbless you all , ur broadcast trully blessing to my soul and spirit....
@Mary003-tez79
@Mary003-tez79 5 ай бұрын
God bless you 💕🙏🙏🙏
@youlife.
@youlife. 5 ай бұрын
JOHN 8:7
@kramsdrawde8159
@kramsdrawde8159 5 ай бұрын
This was known by more than just bickle and he is NOT the only one who has done this at Ihopkc.
@paulstewart3665
@paulstewart3665 5 ай бұрын
Proof?
@user-wk3zw3oo7l
@user-wk3zw3oo7l 5 ай бұрын
Amen!
@twinsof1965
@twinsof1965 5 ай бұрын
This is what happens when "self" becomes more important than God. It should be a lesson to every church in the world. We have allowed new age, demonic and Jezebel spirits into the ministry and church as a whole. We worship by lips only and not with our whole hearts. Everyone wants to be famous and known that they make it all about themselves instead of Jesus Christ! We have women looking like men and men looking like women on the platforms "performing" and the crowds worship them more than they do God. But if anyone disagrees with any of the rules they have in place and they try to tell the leaders, they are the ones to get kicked out of church, immediately. Leaders need to ask the Lord for discernment and begin to see who is truly humble and pleasing to God to be up in a platform leading in worship or preaching and teaching. That is the way it was done in the Bible and in old times of the church. They were not there just to be famous or impress anyone but God. Big difference from all churches today. So, so sad that there are so very few churches left where the Holy Spirit of God is and everyone who enters can feel it! It's NOT and SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT NUMBERS!!! It should be about true believers in Christ and true worship to Him alone! 😪😪😪💔💔💔😭😭😭
@carpediem4612
@carpediem4612 5 ай бұрын
🎯🎯🎯
@gustavomarquez4291
@gustavomarquez4291 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@mikhailryzhov9539
@mikhailryzhov9539 5 ай бұрын
Кто из вас без греха , пусть кинет в них камень. А вообще то удивительно смотреть на вас. Вспоминается история с Майкл Джексон, которого обвиняли в домогательствах, а после его смерти эти же обвинители каялись в том что это неправда и хотели от него денег. И здесь то же кто-то что-то хочет и нашёл повод. Скрывающий проступок ищет любви. Мы призваны искать любви а не справедливости.
@mikhailryzhov9539
@mikhailryzhov9539 5 ай бұрын
Мир вам и благодать
@jeffniebergall2148
@jeffniebergall2148 5 ай бұрын
Not able to conduct an in person interview with MB??? Was he busy? Fig leaf alert
@nathancomo7789
@nathancomo7789 5 ай бұрын
Also you keep erasing things on here too🤦‍♂ Even in the public eye your hiding stuff. Imagine what they are doing behind close doors people.
@rumaabba8875
@rumaabba8875 4 ай бұрын
Devil=》accuser & father of lie (liar)
@Dana-hd8he
@Dana-hd8he Күн бұрын
Nathan coming YEP to erasing motive of their operation which is OCCULT BEHAVIOR
@brianjohnson52
@brianjohnson52 4 ай бұрын
After first being at IHOPKC since 2000, living in the community for 2 years and then leading a HOP four 4 years.... This representation of justice and prayer is embarrassing to the body of Christ ! Lovers of Jesus and not being lovers of justice?? They ARE one and the same! Lovers of covering up sin yet believing 24/7 is the only way to bring about justice and in the mean while put our heads in the sand? As for me and my house....
@rorygriffin8905
@rorygriffin8905 5 ай бұрын
This is disingenuous. It puts all the blame on others why other Jane Does are not interviewed. It ignored that Michael Brown called for that panel. This is extremely calculated speech. It loses its trust in very short order
@joandean3817
@joandean3817 5 ай бұрын
This is stuff from 2 decades ago. It happened, he repented and God is taking care of it now. That is all folks. Go back to you whatever you do. Show is over. ❤Zion 🔥
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
You wish/this is just the beginning
@user-wf4sy1wb5t
@user-wf4sy1wb5t 5 ай бұрын
👍
@rumaabba8875
@rumaabba8875 4 ай бұрын
Those religineous full of ENVY , envy worst then jeleous
@lionjudah8900
@lionjudah8900 4 ай бұрын
Yes, get Mike back so he can access more young women!
@valor101arise
@valor101arise 5 ай бұрын
???? You are still not addressing this in light of the fact that people were preyed upon by a person. That doesnt look like humbling oneself, repenting, and forgiving to bring resolve. This is a different matter where protection is vital to justice and truth. Im so grieved by ELT and ihopkcs response and dealing with this!!!!
@upboundbibletalks
@upboundbibletalks 5 ай бұрын
The report is in alignment with what I know to be true from people directly involved. Meanwhile, I’ve seen disparaging comments from members of the AG about the report. I wish the professionalism displayed by McNamara can foster trust for the AG to bring up alleged evidence.
@GospelTruthMedia
@GospelTruthMedia 5 ай бұрын
This awful, these guys just don't get it. Constant deflection, dancing around the issues, and at all costs determined: the show (IHOP) must go on! God will deal with them though...
@Dana-hd8he
@Dana-hd8he Күн бұрын
GospelTruth: DEFUNCT THE ENTIRE MOVEMENT! NO FRUIT
@gatewaychurchrichmond
@gatewaychurchrichmond 5 ай бұрын
That is good news.
@Pollard_jono
@Pollard_jono 5 ай бұрын
This is not credible news whatsoever
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
Get ready more dirt is coming
@Pollard_jono
@Pollard_jono 5 ай бұрын
@@Tendervittle truckloads
@nathancomo7789
@nathancomo7789 5 ай бұрын
@@Pollard_jono 100% it is NOT. What a joke this is.
@kainoaalapai2247
@kainoaalapai2247 5 ай бұрын
Yes NOT credible at all!
@mschulte3203
@mschulte3203 5 ай бұрын
Well said, Eric 🎉!
@GinaMaeKim
@GinaMaeKim 4 ай бұрын
you are so naive. The report is a joke. NO THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE YET! On top of ALL OF THIS they waited over 3 months to do this stupid report done by their defense attorney! That is THREE MONTHS+ of shredding papers, hiding emails, deleting emails, etc.... Just think about it. THERE IS A MOT MORE GOING ON AND THAT HAS GONE ON!
@crystalasia2649
@crystalasia2649 5 ай бұрын
Also GET RID of this HORRIBLE PR-guy. We all know hes just a PR guy and he is making you guys look SO BAD!
@loonhaunt
@loonhaunt 5 ай бұрын
I fear for the American church. AKA Inquisition.
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
The militarism is moving into the church - authoritarianism is coming to a church near you
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
The church is as sleazy as society 🤢🤮
@keshatincopa3970
@keshatincopa3970 5 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@loonhaunt
@loonhaunt 5 ай бұрын
​@@keshatincopa3970see my comment beginning with "more rejoicing".
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
A remnant remains
@Skipbo000
@Skipbo000 11 күн бұрын
so much for 24/7 prayer.... when are we finally going to accept that the entire modern evangelical movement is rife with idolatry, hyper spiritualism and egoism. this intense obsession with being "spiritual" or "godly" in order to be better than the world around us, putting certain people on pedestals and idolizing them, even turning the Bible itself into a weaponized idol that we use to judge and control others is all just nothing more than sin. Love God and Love Others. That's all we have to do. It doesn't matter what music we use, what gimmicks we create, books we read or sermons we listen to. IHOP is just another gimmick created by people who believe that it somehow makes Jesus love them more or listens to them more intently.
@ResurrectionLifeMin
@ResurrectionLifeMin 5 ай бұрын
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie." - 2 Thessalonians 2:11. This is that which we are witnessing today with the continued IHOP-KC COVERUP.
@amk5738
@amk5738 5 ай бұрын
🎯
@niwamutuhairetrevorrugambw9420
@niwamutuhairetrevorrugambw9420 5 ай бұрын
Repent,repent,repent.Forgive,Forgive,forgive.
@blueskywoo
@blueskywoo 5 ай бұрын
Wait. He changed his shirt. What happened.
@cooperkurdziolek5737
@cooperkurdziolek5737 5 ай бұрын
So when someone actually brought clear allegations with evidence it was addressed and brought to the light by IHOP....
@spider23000
@spider23000 5 ай бұрын
Remember Jesus.
@zhuangcorp
@zhuangcorp 5 ай бұрын
I think this report is more reliable than what many feared. But it also falls short in a number of ways. ' C+ or B-
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
You don’t ask for much👎
@nathancomo7789
@nathancomo7789 5 ай бұрын
Haha are you serious. More like an F-. Also did you think about the fact that its been months and they've had all this time to hide or prep for something like this which in the end wasnt even an investigator, but a defense attorney!
@EmunahCheung
@EmunahCheung Ай бұрын
I read the report, it is kind of biases TBN. Why? If you are a victim and had been abused by a famous pastor, will you have courage to come out, letting people see your face on the internet and judging you. I am not saying whether it is truth or not. But the reported only focus on the validation of these women’s identities or their reactions to the issues. Or, how leaders in Ihopkc have been assaulted. It didn’t focus on MB at all… If you want a fair report, I guess we need a third party to step in, but not IHOP themselves find somebody to investigate.
@mikhailryzhov9539
@mikhailryzhov9539 5 ай бұрын
Св. Исаак Сирин сказал: "Не называй Бога справедливым. Потому что если Бог справедлив, я погиб"
@madduckks
@madduckks 5 ай бұрын
And what about Mike's son and that alleged affair?
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
Total coverup.
@gustavomarquez4291
@gustavomarquez4291 5 ай бұрын
It is written in the report. Read it :)
@SomethingNewOficial
@SomethingNewOficial 5 ай бұрын
It’s in the report
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
@@SomethingNewOficial is Bob Hartley in the report
@elainepetras236
@elainepetras236 5 ай бұрын
Did you even bother to read the report???
@migrantson
@migrantson 5 ай бұрын
Cap.
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 2 ай бұрын
What a joke - sleazy ihop 🤢🤮
@wushupants
@wushupants 5 ай бұрын
"...fully committed to making sure this never happens again..." you guys are literally setting yourself up for an even bigger implosion by doing that. Even Yeshua/Jesus said that the wheat and the tares will grow together and will be separated at the end of this whole thing. Let the faithful stay faithful and the unfaithful unfaithful even if they're working "together". It's as simple as that. You can't make Heaven on earth no matter how hard you try. If that was the case we wouldn't need Heaven. So trying to make IHOP some kind of haven of purity for the christian world (when you're surrounded by so much witchcraft and other pagan religions and have zero solutions for any of it) is a silly idea at best. It's still ridiculous that Mike's accusations date back to basically before the HOP began yet you're faulting him for it _now_ of all times (sounds like what the woke Dems do to Trump all the time and fail), but hey, I guess this is one way for him to retire at his age from the hard work he put into the HOP for the past 2 decades, so there's that. Whatever the case, IHOP already felt weird when I went there last year, but now I have a feeling it might just get worse. But hey, who knows! Maybe I'm wrong and it'll actually get better! We can only hope.
@jmkqfnvyl87
@jmkqfnvyl87 5 ай бұрын
Subsequent actions? Not one biblical action has been taken by IHOP. You have not even dismissed leaders in the way that is prescribed in your bible but have done so in the way that corporations do. But we have to actually use the Lords definitions of what constitutes a "lover of God". Not the ones we made up to allow complacency and compromise and continuance in sin. Read the epistles of John. Hold yourself accountable to those words and those definitions and don't use other qualifiers.
@jillshannon8627
@jillshannon8627 5 ай бұрын
They fired him, disfellowshipped him, and the leaders resigned before they got fired. Action and sanction has been applied. Biblical rebuke was also brought against him repeatedly.
@jmkqfnvyl87
@jmkqfnvyl87 5 ай бұрын
@@jillshannon8627 nope. Biblical rebuke is to bring someone before the congregation and ask them to repent. If not repentant publicly and willing to stand before the body. . . Then if not repentant or willing to submit, you are commanded to treat them as an unbeliever and disfellowship them based on that. You cannot call them a believer and 'lover of God' AND disfellowship. That can't happen among christians. Actually we have the biblical model of how Jesus rebuked leaders and his disciples in public and how Paul instructs us to show us what that looks like. The body of Christ as expressed in a church is not subject to the rules of HR or the whims of boards or CEO's. Boards and CEOs should not be making unilateral decisions rather we should do it the biblical way. Someone who is only doing it the HR way of doing things cares more about how things look than obeying biblical process. The HR process of doing things does not actually accomplish anything for a church cause God has never viewed a church as a corporation and does not go by or hold us accountable to those rules but to scripture. Same goes with resignation--somone resigning has nothing to do with and doesn't even effect the biblical process that must still be followed. Sure a senior leader can just resign from a corporation and just walk away. But it's not that way in a church body--which must insist on biblical process. So that will be the question: is IHOP an expression of the body of Christ or of a corporation? By which rules of which kingdom will they choose to abide by and justify themselves by--the secular or the sacred? But I tell you this truly, Jesus will never justify any action except by reference to the word and testimony of God. Stuff we have done because it seems "right" according to the wisdom of culture or of man's traditions and what "looks good" from that standpoint will all be called foolishness.
@annmariehalla9145
@annmariehalla9145 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the truth, I have been through 2 church splits and well you said it all biblical.., where I live all these churches here are run like corporations and it’s disgusting.,, we have to do church on line due to this so called church government! We refuse to replace, disrespect our Lord with worldly applications, and approaches to the body of Christ
@rumaabba8875
@rumaabba8875 4 ай бұрын
Dude , most accusers = outsider .. you guys supposely held in accountable. Stop and repent!! Devil = accusers of brethern
@lionjudah8900
@lionjudah8900 4 ай бұрын
Nothing to see here...
@LetyBravo
@LetyBravo 5 ай бұрын
... "a PERCEIVED lack of safety" - hahahaha!
@arinapak4824
@arinapak4824 5 ай бұрын
Yes and Amen
@Essentials2018
@Essentials2018 4 ай бұрын
I am startled that Mr. Volz misunderstands the seriousness of the IHOPKC situation. This ministry and all defending it are a tragic fulfillment of 1 Timothy 4:1-2. Shame on all of you!
@pianowithdw
@pianowithdw 5 ай бұрын
Can you guys please make it all more vague with more verbage videos, long drawn out processes and ambiguity? There hasn't been enough... But seriously, this is getting absolutely pitiful and maybe someone could finally just be clear and transparent? This has been an absolutely shameful way to handle this situation from the start, and all this dancing around seems very un-Christlike. I love IHOP KC and have been deeply impacted through its ministry, and no one's perfect, but howbout you guys do what's right and just be open?
@TN-Rural-Noachide-Woman
@TN-Rural-Noachide-Woman 5 ай бұрын
Spiritual bypassing and gross CYA and no this is NOT A SAFE PLACE OR SPACE HOW DISGUSTING
@TroyStevens430
@TroyStevens430 5 ай бұрын
Classic spiritual manipulation.
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
The congregation doesn’t even care😂😂😂
@TroyStevens430
@TroyStevens430 5 ай бұрын
@@Tendervittle Just demonstrates how little discernment there is in this church. All that's required by Volz is throwing out a couple of spiritual sounding phrases about the blood of Jesus & the empty tomb and the sheep happily conclude that all's well. Meanwhile, there's still a boatload of corruption that remains unaddressed.
@Tendervittle
@Tendervittle 5 ай бұрын
@@TroyStevens430 I started in this cult in 1983 - I know a lot - the whole movement is disgusting - fantasy land
@TroyStevens430
@TroyStevens430 5 ай бұрын
@@Tendervittle I've only been observing from a distance, but having worked in a spiritually abusive 'Christian organization' my radar has been sounding pretty loudly whenever I hear these guys. To me it's becoming blatantly obvious from refusal to allow a true investigation that there must be way more that they're hiding. It won't work. Jesus is personally exposing this garbage and there's no amount of brand management or spin-doctoring that's going to thwart Him. Bless you for escaping the plantation.
@carpediem4612
@carpediem4612 5 ай бұрын
Yup and every camp even us moderate Pentecostals have been calling them out from the start….why don’t u expose what u know n plaster it everywhere..maybe some cultmembers may see the light@@Tendervittle
@tatiede9618
@tatiede9618 5 ай бұрын
It looks like the Jay Doe #1 doesn’t even exist 🤷‍♀️
@cooperkurdziolek5737
@cooperkurdziolek5737 5 ай бұрын
Looks like she is lying and exaggerating what happened without evidence....
@crystalasia2649
@crystalasia2649 5 ай бұрын
STILL NOT A THIRD PARTY THAT WAS AGREED UPON!!! This guys is such a snake. PR snake. We do not want to hear from you. And we want an ACTUAL THIRD PARTY that is agreed upon. NOT a defense attorney that you guys keep touting as "a third party investigator." It is SICK and EMBARRASSING what you guys are doing! It has been MONTHS!
@michelangelo6565
@michelangelo6565 5 ай бұрын
Your a joke bro
@vanderHoffTeachings
@vanderHoffTeachings 5 ай бұрын
Like a butcher putting his own meat-labels on his meat.
@carpediem4612
@carpediem4612 5 ай бұрын
Haaa so funny watching the comments decrease in numbers as the views increase..keep hiding truth ya don’t like ihop 👌
@nathancomo7789
@nathancomo7789 5 ай бұрын
They keeeeeep hiding the truth. Even their videos keep getting hidden by them. Imagine what theyre hiding behind closed doors. And they've had MONTHS to hid stuff.
@phils2ys4u
@phils2ys4u 5 ай бұрын
Yay! Problem solved. NOT!! What a clown show. The way ihop has handled this and completely excluded themselves from the issue is despicable. What a joke.
@OrangeLight08
@OrangeLight08 5 ай бұрын
why does this guy seem plastic and robotic. ? almost ai like.
@user-od8ft2ws1m
@user-od8ft2ws1m 5 ай бұрын
Probably because Internet trolls like directing their malice at him. These people are human; grieving - and they are treated guilty by association. Just so grose how people have conducted themselves and shown their true colours when another part of the body gets hit with a devastating blow like this; and then ugliness is of so called Christ Followers is displayed. Hideous.
@estherhofmann2915
@estherhofmann2915 5 ай бұрын
@@user-od8ft2ws1m the speaker went throught a long difficult and challenging time. Your comments show a miserable character. Shame!
@albertlopez2237
@albertlopez2237 5 ай бұрын
Thats how he is; just is a bit odd. look up other interviews he had had years b4 this situation.
@user-od8ft2ws1m
@user-od8ft2ws1m 4 ай бұрын
@@estherhofmann2915 Lady, read your Bible and get a grip on life. I dont know what youre on about, but YOU NEED JESUS.
@andywilson6890
@andywilson6890 5 ай бұрын
This is horrible. You people should be ashamed. You are fooling no one but yourselves. My heart breaks for what you and the General have done to ihopkc.
@felipesimoes1
@felipesimoes1 5 ай бұрын
Ihopkc is a blessing for Brazil. 🇧🇷🇮🇱
@carpediem4612
@carpediem4612 5 ай бұрын
Poor Brazil
@docbarm3338
@docbarm3338 5 ай бұрын
The ministry itself must be investigated. Mike WAS IHOPKC and involved in nearly every aspect. Financials especially must become transparent since they left the EFCA since 2016!
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