Her Bloodwork is Better on Carnivore than Vegan? Steak and Butter Gal Response

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@wardhamrin3979 5 ай бұрын

She looks very healthy

@EEXPLOSIONN 2 ай бұрын

Compare that to the guy who made this video, she's probably got a better lifestyle

@GregDinAZ 17 күн бұрын

I’ve seen young people look amazing on just about every diet known to man. That means nothing.

@ArixSage 10 күн бұрын

@@GregDinAZ her skin's crystal clear without using a skin care routine, that should tell you something

@GregDinAZ 10 күн бұрын

@@ArixSage I’m sorry, but having clear skin means nothing in regards to your vascular health. There are millions of examples of this. I’m thinking of a body builder who died at 49 years old of heart complications. He was handsome, had a perfect physique and skin. His younger brother died 2 days later at the age of 47 from kidney disease. He was also handsome, had a perfect physique and skin. They both ate lots of meat. A third example is of a guy on KZfaq who was in his late 40’s when he found out he had two major blockages to his heart. He was a carnivore, looked strong and healthy and with perfect skin. These are just a few examples off the top of my head. You can’t judge a book by its cover.

@koranmiladinovic 4 күн бұрын

@@GregDinAZ Here's a question for all the vegans out there, including this ghostly looking Mic up there in the video: Which animals get atherosclerosis? Is it the meat eating ones or the plant eating ones? This should give you people a clue on WHAT causes atherosclerosis hahahahah www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/ Now ask yourself what killed the body builders because it was NOT meat.

@lakehuron7733 8 ай бұрын

For a woman to be living on steak and butter is frightening as the Bovine Leukemia Virus genome is found to be in 60% of breast cancer cases in the US. Great as always Mic

@MictheVegan 8 ай бұрын

I keep putting off a video on that connection, thanks for reminding me!

@orion9k 8 ай бұрын

Are you trolling? Steak and organic butter is very healthy.

@hoon_sol 8 ай бұрын

@@orion9k: What's amazing is that I can't tell if you're a funny person who is telling a joke, or if you unironically believe something that insanely stupid. Dead animal remains and animal products are extremely toxic garbage to human physiology.

@GregariousAntithesis 8 ай бұрын

Apparently you think women are the only gender capable of getting breast cancer then again most of you dont think there are genders.

@fireroc2 8 ай бұрын

@@orion9kno it isn’t for a variety of reasons including the Bovine Leukemia Virus en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_leukemia_virus

@realDaveFeldman 8 ай бұрын

Hi Mic - thank you for your interest in our prospective study on Lean Mass Hyper-Responders. To clarify your earlier statement on our cohort averaging younger - the baseline crude data I’ve presented on after Lundquist completed the first 100 scans of our participants: Male 60%, average age 55.3, years on keto 4.4, mean LDL-C 259.8 mg/dL. Lundquist is scheduled to present a comparison analysis next month, but they will be doing it against a matched control from Miami Heart, seeking to line up all demographics and risk factors as much as possible. In short, I’m confident they won’t be comparing a young group to an old one.

@dannym8015 8 ай бұрын

I'm sure that as Mic the vegan is such a balanced, objective and science-based advocate he'll be quick to point out where he mis-spoke....

@markmacdonald1849 8 ай бұрын

Thought it was funny when the vegan guy wanted to muddy the waters about the results before they are even published.

@gmbs360 7 ай бұрын

Polite and rational. Nice one Dave!

@md82892 7 ай бұрын

This Mic the Vegan guy is an attention seeker. What he basically does, finds highly watched videos and “debunks” them with “science”. However what he does is that he knows no one in his community will read or criticize these junk studies. When someone like Dave challenges him, he’ll go silent as he has no answer. It’s very hard to watch this guy, although I want to understand his arguments, his voice tone, attitude and general presentation is a 7yrs old with a beard

@oyeahisbest123 6 ай бұрын

@@dannym8015 yet he never did

@RabbitWatchShop 8 ай бұрын

No ‘carnivore’ will ever convince me that diet is healthy. When I was on it, I couldn’t use the bathroom. I felt lethargic. I had severe muscle cramps due to lack of potassium and magnesium. It’s bland and boring. My body odor was horrid. Never again. I also want to add I never felt great about eating animals. I’m Jewish, so it’s easy not to eat pigs. I visited in a pig preserve in Jamestown, TN, and quickly learned pigs are very intelligent, cute, and fun to be around. I love cows, too. And it’s awful what the factory farm does to chickens. I am slowly working my way back to a plant-based diet. When I was, I felt super healthy and thin. Tons of energy.

@qosaghcalnan1045 8 ай бұрын

Exactly its the most gross diet ever . I am glad you saw the light . I knew they all gad to be super constipated and smelly . We are not carnivore , carnivore ertaiky dont eat butter cheese and eggs on the regular they can't even get it right .

@bradwjensen 8 ай бұрын

Variety and Moderation is key in all you consume.

@takodanobaba 8 ай бұрын

This is going to vary widely from person to person. I completely believe you when you say the carnivore diet didn't work for you, but if it works for another person then that's great. The same is constantly said about the Vegan diet. Just go on all the Keto/Paleo/Carnivore channels and all you'll read is how the Vegan diet gave them constipation, bloated gut, and lots of gas. Then they'll go on about how they were low on certain vitamins and minerals. This will vary with peoples genetics and what food they ate as they grew up.

@NiranjanBendre 8 ай бұрын

Congratulations on making good choices! 👍

@julienfroidevaux1143 8 ай бұрын

You should have stuck to it , all part of the detoxing process.......

@reason3581 8 ай бұрын

I’m not a carnivore because I suspect that cutting down the Amazon and turning it into a desert might not be a good thing.

@user-no2mz9hl4f 8 ай бұрын

😂 Thank you for considering the rest of us and Planet Earth.

@julienfroidevaux1143 8 ай бұрын

Are you insane ? Carnivore advocates only eat local regenerative farmed humanly raised meats ....

@julienfroidevaux1143 8 ай бұрын

@@hobogardenerben You'll care when you or a loved one dies from a deforested Amazon which will cause the next global pandemic . . Please think before saying stuff.

@julienfroidevaux1143 8 ай бұрын

@@hobogardenerben Your fellow traveller carnivore Dr Jordon Peterson stated 1 / 10 people have a IQ of less than 85 , this seem unbelievable to me untill I familiarised myself with the carni community.

@julienfroidevaux1143 8 ай бұрын

@@hobogardenerben I've never seen you why should I care if you are brutally murdered ? Its called a social contract .

@MrEroshan 8 ай бұрын

I have familial hypercholesteremia. My mother died from heart disease, now I have advanced heart disease. I had zero other factors that would contribute to heart disease. I was always active, had low blood pressure. I have been vegan for years, but with total cholesterol of 375 my doctor recommended statins. I refused to take them, that was 15 years ago, now I am suffering with advanced heart disease. It's the cholesterol people, pay attention, unlike me.

@enalo6261 8 ай бұрын

My mom dropped statins 6 months ago, her cholesterol is still the same as with statind.She takes berberine.

@captainpawpawchannel 8 ай бұрын

a vegan diet can be unhealthy, it needs to be high carb low fat with no oil, otherwise it can make you sick

@faylinameir 8 ай бұрын

@@enalo6261have her look into inositol too. You can take it together. Myo and dchiro 40:1

@toolinedc 8 ай бұрын

You know your brain runs on cholesterol right ?? 😂😂 your body produces cholesterol.... if you eat food with a lot of it them your body will decrease the amount it creates. It's 200% not the cholesterol.

@liamburns8554 8 ай бұрын

Being vegan is absolutely terrible for your health, specifically if you are northern european. Tens of thousands of years progressed eating all manner of animal products

@Amshatelia88 8 ай бұрын

I love that "carnie" now refers to both sketchy carnival workers AND carnivore dieters.

@tanyaroberson9629 8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@rblongfellow 8 ай бұрын

😂

@MictheVegan 8 ай бұрын

I know, the imagery makes a lot of sense in my head too.

@veganfortheanimals6994 8 ай бұрын

haha, yep

@missanthropy6174 8 ай бұрын

I’m currently trying to popularize referring to anti vegans and non vegans in general as “carni-clowns.” I hope it catches on.

@PUDDI1986 8 ай бұрын

My wife and I are the only Vegans in our families, and yesterday, we had her side over for dinner for her dad's birthday. Her brother informed us that he's going to a Carnivore diet and doesn't want to hear anything about it from us. We were told he has done his research, and he's doing it, and nothing we could say would change his mind. I so badly wanted to show him your videos, but I knew he wouldn't even listen. 😔

@mollyk3768 8 ай бұрын

I know how rough it is to watch a loved one damage their health and not be able to do anything. Wishing you the best ❤

@ejRecording 8 ай бұрын

Mics "Vegan carnivore swap" video is a great one to show, but yes can't be co dependent, people don't want to hear it but there Are ways to inject your truth into your speech ✌️ What's worked for me is... Or- the way I understand it is.....

@mattsapero1896 8 ай бұрын

My condolences since he won’t be around for long living like that.

@jimlofts5433 8 ай бұрын

we had her side over for dinner haha and then forced your vegan diet on them, but when you visit them they cater to your needs - very rude peoples - keep the B12 up

@orion9k 8 ай бұрын

It's hilarious to read this, as a meat eater xD

@skeeteryeeter1799 8 ай бұрын

If this doctor was a pilot he would be saying "the number of plane crashes is not a good way to tell if a plane is safe" before take off.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

straw man. Lame.

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

Straw man.

@bazileia9222 7 ай бұрын

@itsmedante.5325 is that your new buzzword you don't actually understand but like to use? How is this a strawman fallacy, care to elaborate?

@DanteLikesRock 7 ай бұрын

@@bazileia9222 the doctor is not a pilot, neither has he made any claims of that ridiculous nature whatsoever. Therefore any "what if" arguments are futile, useless and hold no bearing on reality, and are in fact, ridiculous to even consider at all. But that's the best you vegans can do. Did I really need to explain that to you? like a child? Next.

@aikidodude05 4 ай бұрын

here is the problem the modern nutritional rules are being pushed in the usa are bullshit and it has nothing to do with health and everything to do with politics. and to understand you have to look back to where the rules come from and thats when you discover that long a go the crypt keepers that are in DC starting having health problems and the current modern nutritional ideology is literally the thing that was being prescribed to crypt keepers. the fing idiots went good enough for us good enough for everyone. modern doctors cant even speak out against it without risking their jobs they have to speak in vague ways around the subject its wild to see when you actually start to notice it.

@keithh23 8 ай бұрын

Low carbers' scientific claims have changed over the years. Atkins claimed that cholesterol numbers lowered on his diet. Then it went to, "carbs raises cholesterol." That didn't work, so they went to cholesterol levels, don't matter or that higher cholesterol is healthy and protective. If you've been around long enough, you see how these diets cycle in and out of popularity. Once they fade due to health problems and lack of science, another low-carb diet pops up with some minor differences but a lot of the same rhetoric. Mostly telling people what they want to hear about their bad habits.

@TheHestya 8 ай бұрын

Diets would lose out if they worked. There's a reason people struggle their whole lives with weight loss no matter how many diets they try. I tried a lot of things, they were not doable in the long run so I always failed sooner or later. Of course I did, it's all set up to make you feel like shit, look how much work you're putting in. And then you fail because the diet isn't providing anything for you and you just get more and more hungry as you crave things missing from your diet, because you're restricting to an extreme. It's ad how it's all stacked against you. The only thing that has helped me is intermittent fasting, read a book by Dr. Pelz, adapted it to a vegan diet, ben doing it for months now, not feeling hungry all the time,eating within a windo, it's slow progress as I've had to adjust it for my health situation, so I do eat some processed foods instead of whole as whole cause me symptoms. But i's something I will stick to for the rest of my life, I find i easy and effective.

@Nikwunu 8 ай бұрын

wow it's almost like science is just a process and nothing is set in stone

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

no way! ...really!!?? ....it's almost as if science changes it's opinions as it discovers new things.

@80slimshadys 8 ай бұрын

@@Nikwunuyou missed the point. The science hasn't actually changed in regards to the low carb trend. The evidence wasn't on its side back then and still isn't. Thats the point.

@80slimshadys 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock it went over your head too

@kathivy 8 ай бұрын

Funny that she has to supplement Vitamin D. People always make fun of vegans if they supplement anything. I’d like to see her Vitamin C levels.

@francescograssi4432 8 ай бұрын

They also need to supplement electrolytes, often they don't ingest enough omega 3 and 6 (even if they won't admit it cause seed oils tho) and let's not start with fiber

@buckmurdock2500 8 ай бұрын

all low carb /keto/ carnivores take handfuls of supplements then rag on vegans for taking a B12 supplement.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

wow ! it's almost as if people aren't getting enough sunlight as they should.🙄

@anthonyspadafora1384 8 ай бұрын

Above the 45 degree latitude there is no UVB from September to June. Glass also filters UVB from the light. @@DanteLikesRock

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@dantelikesrock but you people claim that animal based food has enough vitamin D. Now you need sun just like the rest of us?

@defaultcamo4288 6 ай бұрын

There are a lot of people in the carnivore community that are benefiting dramatically. People that are obese are losing weight. People that have skin diseases and other issues are seeing relief and their symptoms, adjusting. A lot of vegans feeling terrible go carnivore and feel better for it. It's never too late. I have personally tried many types of dieting. Vegetarian had been on the list in the past where I felt the absolute worst. Then I try just eating normal but lowering my calorie consumption and I always tend to gain weight. On carnivore. I'm actually losing weight and I'm not hungry all the time.

@OldWorldNY 4 ай бұрын

Ignorance is bliss. Y’all will learn the hard way.

@jayyyzeee6409 8 ай бұрын

Her: "I found a single doctor who would tell me what I wanted to hear."🤡

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

"my vegan diet is so healthy that I need to supplement with B12 because that's exactly how nature intended it to be."🤡

@Sovvyy 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock Low effort spamming. Nature doesn't have intentions and natural doesn't mean healthy. And people if were interested in health outcomes, supplements should always be considered for *all diets.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

@@Sovvyy absolute nonsense. Look at all the animals in the wild thriving with their supplements. Oh wait... they don't. They just eat what comes naturally to them. You vegans are ridiculous.

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@dantelikesrock in another thread you were ok with her supplementation of vitamin D although we take about 80% from exposure to sun, but somehow B12 is too much for you, even though that about 40% of population (non vegans) have to supplement due to malabsobtion, go figure... Cognitive dissonance and Dunning Kruger are strong with you dude...

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

@@bazileia9222 you can't compare the two. needing to supplement for a vitamin that is synthesized from sunlight is completely different to supplementing a lack of nutrients in your diet, some people work indoors all day and cant get sun. Not the same as people going out of their way to malnourish themselves. This is about DIET. Your point?

@elsadolan3962 8 ай бұрын

Just bought the scale! I’m so stoked to get to track more than just my weight without blood tests (which I will still do) every 2 years 💪🌱💕

@geoffmerritt 8 ай бұрын

Good thing she got off that restrictive "vegan" diet for the 'steak and butter" diet...

@thatsalt1560 8 ай бұрын

Yes, that I really don't understand. I can't imagine eating only meat for every meal every day. Unless you are desperate to use what ever diet to solve some severe health problems, why would you choose such a boring diet?

@bcro83 8 ай бұрын

@@thatsalt1560 she looks like shes enjoying it

@RiDankulous 8 ай бұрын

@@thatsalt1560 In my opinion there's a strong possibility its just a scam to get maximum profit. It does generate quite a bit of revenue because it's tantalizing and irresistible message to many.

@steveherridge8965 8 ай бұрын

You'd think you'd get bored of eating steak everyday. I thought the same...it makes sense, but 3 years in and I look forward to steak every day. In fact, I can't wait.@@thatsalt1560

@tellingtruthexposinglies1435 7 ай бұрын

@@thatsalt1560boring diet??? I can't imagine eating nothing but vegetables all day every day. Even when I was plant based, I had to mix all my vegetables and "health foods" into a smoothie just to choke it down. "Boring" felt pretty great after torturing my taste buds and giving myself arthritis for a year.

@steveherridge8965 8 ай бұрын

I'm not gonna change the minds of most here, but for the few questioning why, for example Bella is glowing and radiant and Mic here looks like most long term vegans, then go check out Prof. Bart Kay's take down of this vid. You want long term health, don't follow people who look like, well you know.

@jassy0903 9 күн бұрын

Oh honey, you're so naive. KZfaq creators are pumped with so much filler and Botox and, of course, good genetics along with good filters. I'm sorry you fell for it though

@jasonhsu4711 8 ай бұрын

Bella is living proof that being skinny is no guarantee of low LDL. If I only knew her LDL level but didn't know what she looked like, I'd assume that she weighed at least 400 pounds.

@kathleenphillips7145 8 ай бұрын

It’s not about weight when your arteries are clogged by ingesting saturated fats and carcinogenic meat products.

@TheHestya 8 ай бұрын

I'm overweight, but I've been vegan for many years, and even before going egan my bloods were always good. Been anemic a couple of times (only once since going vegan, several times before going vegan), but otherwise my blood tests were always in order. So weight doesn't determine these things. It can be a factor, it can signal bad diet. But doesn't always. I gained weight when I was dying in a hospital bed at age 7 with a heart condition reulting from strep throat. Was given literal handfuls of medication every day and was not allowed to leave the bed, because it could have been too much for my heart. Spent several months like that and gained weight super quickly. And have struggled for the rest of my life, having PCOS and fatigue, both of which work against me. Slowly losing now with intermittent fasting as it's the only thing that has helped me.

@justingallant8558 8 ай бұрын

@kathleenphillips7145 you think that saturated fats end up in your arteries the same way they sit on your plate? Throught 1-3 ph acid in your stomach down your intestines throught a 1 cell thick intestinal wall then inside your blood then to the arteries and some it's knly at this point that it causes grief lmao hahahahaha

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

@@TheHestya you're overweight on a vegan diet??? wow!!!?? shocker!!!?? it's ALMOST AS IF eating plants-only and going against your biology isn't good for you. 🙄

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

you vegans are so obsessed with LDL. completely ignoring the bigger, more important picture that is SYSTEMIC INFLAMMATION. (from carbs.)

@ignacioa1638 6 ай бұрын

I'm 64, I have been low carb for OVER 25 years, carnivorous for OVER 5 years. Why? I feel better not eating plants, sugar, starches, vegetable and seed oils. It's all about context, LDL in the context of high glucose/insulin and high triglycerides may be meaningful, NOT the same in the context of LOW carb diets. I am not taking any medication, super active, all my health metrics are within the "perfect" range, except for LDL cholesterol being 200 mg/dL, my HDL is 70 and my triglycerides < 50, perfect blood pressure and many other markers. My coronary calcification score is zero. Traditional high carbohydrate diets are responsible for many of the chronic diseases, along vegetable / seed oils. It is possible that a vegetarian diet is superior to the standard American diet, but that does not mean it is an ideal diet for humans.

@jontanneguy4960 8 ай бұрын

Still remember the day when the first lion began churning butter. We need to go back to simpler times.

@johnow7 2 ай бұрын

The Lion Diet is just beef, salt, and water and it is only a nickname for that way of eating. No one in the carnivore community ever said we should emulate lions in our eating habits apart from eating meat.

@PsychoPlants 16 күн бұрын

⁠⁠@@johnow7Lions don’t eat beef or salt. Find a new name for your stupid diet. You’re not a carnivore btw 🙃 Why not follow a primate/human species specific diet? Plants for thriving, meat for surviving. Or a diet with scientific evidence- Plants for thriving, meat for heart disease and cancer. 👍🏻

@carl13579 8 ай бұрын

LDL is OK for carnivores because the large fluffy unicorns carry it away.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

good strawman.👍🏻 that definitely holds up against scientific rigor.

@eilisniaisi5954 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRockscientific rigour ? Show me your sources clown 😂😂😂

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock what scientific rigor? Where is the evidence for your claims?

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

@@bazileia9222 you already know.

@risdamzuid 21 күн бұрын

Why didnt they measure ApoB. Studies indicate its more positively correlated with CAD than ldl level.

@mariaangelova8275 8 ай бұрын

I check my blood every year and everything is in perfect range. P.S. I've been vegan for 7 years now. 💚🌱

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent 8 ай бұрын

Yup, here too. Everything has gotten better even though I ate well beforehand.

@joannemartin1874 8 ай бұрын

Mine is always perfect also wfpb almost 9 years

@kathleenphillips7145 8 ай бұрын

Me too. Vegan since 2017 with perfect blood work. 💚 🌱

@ChristianParkesArt 8 ай бұрын

Great!

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

"perfect range" according to who? Who determines what "perfect range" is.

@maxmontauk7281 8 ай бұрын

Cardiovascular surgeons are not the same as cardiologists - and as surgeons they are a lot less interested (and knowledgeable about) things like blood cholesterol levels...

@HidingFromFate 8 ай бұрын

Yes. These surgeons are closer to being mechanics than scientists. And that's no slight intended towards mechanics. It's just a different skill set and mental aptitude.

@videoartsproductions1 8 ай бұрын

There are surgeon Doctors who do think about it but they don't have time to be on KZfaq talking about it. They're to busy putting in stents to repair the damage from poor life style choices. I've talked to many surgeons and Doctors and the majority of the ones I've met are health conscious. Some even intermittent fast and have gone vegan. The Doctors can't recommend these things since that is not what they do and it's not part of the standard medical practice play book. This Doctor is a rogue though I'm not sure why that is, he's definitely not someone I wouldn't trust for health advise though he may be a good surgeon.

@NapaValleyVegan 8 ай бұрын

That makes sense. I suppose a cardiac surgeon would love unhealthy diets. He needs to work, right? If we all were vegan, his job would be obsolete 🤷‍♀️

@user-cx9nc4pj8w 8 ай бұрын

the good old "expert" who does have qualifications, and sounds relevant, but did not actually study the thing they are giving advice on.

@nanskiboutski243 5 ай бұрын

@@NapaValleyVegan Quite a few heart surgeon are vegan and totally promote a plant diet

@doncoroleone7815 2 ай бұрын

Let's revisit this in 5 years. I'd be willing to be that Mic the Vegan will have health issues, while the Steak and Butter Gal will still be thriving.

@NewlyAwakened 2 ай бұрын

I'm kind of thinking the same thing

@paleale8400 8 ай бұрын

iv been vegetarian, vegan for 8 years ive tried carvinore and fruit only, i drop too much weight on vegan and vegetarian, i started to get grey hair also im young, i use a rule i cannot suplement, this year i started eating fish, it was such a difference in energy and weight i eat meat now and chicken, right now im eating omnivore but i dont eat much pasta, rice or potatoes i try to eat whole foods that are very nutriferous, colorfull salads tasty fruits and good meat, i gained over 5 k of muscle, i feel more energetic and i crave less sweets and bs food, im eating about 150 gr of protein a day

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

just another example of why meat is our biological diet.

@user-bv7mk8id5t 8 ай бұрын

Assuming this doctor 🤨 is on a carnivore diet, why do they usually look so waxy and puffy. He sort of looks like he had a stroke. He is dangerous to his patients! This carnivore diet is getting more and more ridiculous! Going to check out that scale, tx! 🌱 -What their colon must look like! Had my colonoscopy recently and it was clean, clean, clean! I am going to say being a veg head for 30 yrs contributed to that (vegetarian for 18 and vegan for 11yrs, so 29 yrs).

@jovotszebb367 3 ай бұрын

Well done, I'm so happy for you! The Dr looks very ill, but Mic looks so amazing, healthy looking skin and face 😂😂😂

$@jeffrachelburkhalter3783$

@jeffrachelburkhalter3783 8 ай бұрын

I would love to be Vegan but from what I've seen, Carnivores tend to look a lot healthier than vegans. I don't understand why that is, if wfpb is better for us.

@jimmyobrien8738 8 ай бұрын

It's a weird one alright

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

🤔maybe because one is our species-appropriate diet, and the other is nonsense ideology.🙄

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

hmmmm. I wonder why.🤔

@GameFuMaster 5 ай бұрын

probably because you can actually access the nutrients in a carnivore diet? Also, don't believe for a second that veganism is better for you, because plant foods (or rather what they contain) are the culprits to developing kidney stones. If you go on a vegan diet, you're constantly monitoring what you're eating because of anti-nutrients and other side effects. Vegetables aren't "harmless" foods, they protect themselves in other ways, i.e. chemicals, as opposed to animals who generally protect themselves through combat or running away.

@GameFuMaster 5 ай бұрын

@tomgoff7887 8 ай бұрын

Another good video. BTW, I'd mention again as you did that both heart attacks and unstable angina cause cholesterol to decline so it's little surprise that people hospitalised with these conditions have 'low' levels of cholesterol on admission. The denialists constantly fail to mention this. Another point regarding all these bright, bubbly young people laughing off their high cholesterl levels is that it seems to be 'cholesterol years' that better predict risk than a single point cholesterol score. This is analogous to the pack years concept in cigarette smoking and risk. See eg the 2020 paper "Time course of LDL cholesterol exposure and cardiovascular disease event risk"

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

the "denialists" do mention it, you're just too blind to open your mind to the possibility that perhaps cholesterol is there for a purpose and not just to give us heart disease. 🙄

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

false. The "denialists" do mention it. You just choose what you want to believe based on emotions and not science.

@tomgoff7887 8 ай бұрын

@@itsmedante.5325 You either have a Puckish sense of humour or the most amazing brass neck.

@bazileia9222 7 ай бұрын

@itsmedante.5325 how funny that someone with zero scientific credentials (no KZfaq videos are not scientific credentials) says anything about denying science...

@WhiteKitta 6 ай бұрын

GUESS what..... remember you made a video about FiftyPlusBeauty who was eating Carnivore and got a stroke? well she just went plant based! check out her last video called "Heart Disease Reversal Diet - Did the Carnivore Diet Cause My Stroke?"

@veganfortheanimals6994 8 ай бұрын

Keep up these videos Mikey, good topic, so important to cover it 👍

@cornelstamate2537 7 ай бұрын

mic the vegan never miss an oportunity to say how low his ldl value and acused dr eckberg of purposly skiping the ldl value in a video. mic the vegan also skips his triglicerydes levels. triglicerydes over hdl ratio is five times more precise mesurement of heart desease then ldl levels.

@countschad 6 ай бұрын

My father did a stint in the arctic circle as a family medicine/ER doctor. He said that the people there had the highest lipoprotein levels that he'd ever seen. But, not one had CVD. Their diet consted of alcohol, carribou, seal meat/blubber, and fish.

@gemmamarina 5 ай бұрын

Isn't in that part of the world where the life expectancy is 20 years lower than the average of the rest of the world?

@countschad 5 ай бұрын

@@gemmamarina Probably, he said that they had a lot of trauma cases from drunk people riding and crashing snowmobiles.

@LelandReview 5 ай бұрын

@ScienceNow- Was it plants or antibiotics and vaccines that improved lifespans ? Turns out Whale skin is loaded with vitamin C so they didn't need plants to get it.

@DanteLikesRock 4 ай бұрын

@ScienceNow- infant mortality brings the average down.

@BradleyGibbs 4 ай бұрын

@@gemmamarina correlation is not causation

@leannezezeski-sass2773 8 ай бұрын

I’m a 30 year old standard America diet vegan and honestly my bloodworks been coming back completely fine 🤷🏻‍♀️

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent 8 ай бұрын

You're 30. 🤦‍♀️

@arjunratnadev 8 ай бұрын

@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistenthaven't ye heard? people are getting fat and heart attacks even bellow that age

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent 8 ай бұрын

@@arjunratnadev And? There's chain smokers in their 90s. What's your point?

@chantalbaxter9126 8 ай бұрын

Standard American diet and vegan are near opposite ends of the spectrum

@tom-qj6uw 8 ай бұрын

@@chantalbaxter9126 "Standard American diet and vegan are near opposite ends of the spectrum" Not really. The SAD contains a lot of junk and this junk nowadays can easily bought 'veganized'! You can be vegan without eating any real fruit or vegetable ever!

@dekyor9547 8 ай бұрын

Ovadia won't change his stance because he's made it into his personality. He even got things explainted the way they are by Dr Gil from Nutrition Made Simple 🤷🏻‍♂️

@videoartsproductions1 8 ай бұрын

They can't walk it back even if they know they're wrong so they have to keep doubling down. Eventually the Doctor will have a cardiac event himself but will blame it on genetics if he lives through it.

@annwilliams6438 8 ай бұрын

He will keep going until he drops from a heart attack himself. His body shape screams that he is heading that way.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

LOL. dr Gil is clueless.

@dekyor9547 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock he has actual education in nutrition unlike the cardiologist. And everything he says in the interview with Ovadia is backed with studies, I don't see how you could say that, unless you're a conspiracist.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

@@dekyor9547 Dr Gil still thinks LDL is causal to heart disease. Doesn't get more clueless than that I'm afraid.

@soma7940 7 ай бұрын

Do you ever keep up with the guy named Bart Kay who uses your videos to respond to you on KZfaq? ? It's hilarious. He did one on this episode called "Mike, the vegan vs steak and butter gal." I think you and your viewers would find it very funny.

@tanyasydney2235 7 ай бұрын

I think Kay is too disgusting to watch, personally.

@tristantries9211 7 ай бұрын

There is a channel i think its no carb life where he interviews hundreds of people who are carnivore mainly and the effect it has had on their life. Its a good mix of people of all ages not just young.

@CarolDee61 6 ай бұрын

Love that channel

@jeffslim9518 8 ай бұрын

I'm in my early 30s. I ate a fairly "healthy" version of SAD diet from when I was about 16 until I was about 27. After that I ate a healthy vegeteration diet for 5 years, then started greying, losing hair, skin was getting dryer, suffering from low energy. Now after 4 months on a carnivore diet, every metric of my blood work (testosterone, vitamin D, etc) is MUCH better than it ever was on SAD or vegetarian diets. And I have never been the type to eat tons of junk food, so this isn't a result of "just" cutting out junk food. My cholelstoral has gone up as a result of carnivore diet but EVERY OTHER marker has improved, so for me I've come to the conclusion that high cholestoral alone isn't cause for concern. Let's all meet back here in a few years and see how we're feeling 😉

@lifeisagift5627 8 ай бұрын

What a healthy carnivore doctor! 🤦🏻‍♂️

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

what a healthy man spreading his vegan propaganda! Looks like he needs some sleep though- and maybe some meat.... oh- nevermind! he's SO HEALTHY GUYS!!

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@@itsmedante.5325 which part is propaganda again? Care to elaborate?

@crystalbluebutterfly 8 ай бұрын

@@itsmedante.5325shut up!

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

@@bazileia9222 the entire vegan ideology. it's not based in science. It's based in religion and emotions.

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@@itsmedante.5325 buzzwords instead of saying something meaningful? Didn't expect anything else. Projecting much honey?

@roychui6694 7 ай бұрын

What is not mentioned is her HDL is super high at 98. My LDL is 125 and HDL is 28, for example. Even though my LDL is low, but my HDL is super low which the doctor correctly pointed out was not healthy; I was actually advised to eat more salmon and fish.

@karlwheatley1244 6 ай бұрын

HDL is not causal in preventing heart disease--that old idea got debunked about a decade ago, but more an more research proves that the higher your LDL and the longer it's high, the more plaque forms and the greater the risk of heart attacks.

@tanyaroberson9629 8 ай бұрын

What is going to happen if one of these young people Dr. Ovadia is telling not to worry about sky high cholesterol has a heart attack or stroke?

@TheLocalFuzz 8 ай бұрын

It will either be blamed on something else, or swept under the rug. You know that!

@ToriHarris-lb6zg 8 ай бұрын

The stroke will be blamed on oxalates and anti nutrients still left over from the previous diet😂😂

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

@@ToriHarris-lb6zg which is entirely correct. atherosclerosis takes DECADES to develop.

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@@itsmedante.5325 please explain the physiological mechanism by which atherosclerosis forms...

@ToriHarris-lb6zg 8 ай бұрын

@@itsmedante.5325 So you think that all these people with clogged arteries are eating veggies and fresh fruit for every meal despite the fact that Americans eat almost no produce? Dr.Gregor was correct when he called you carnivores the flat earthers of nutrition😂😂

@hammypie 8 ай бұрын

Omg thank YOU, I was waiting for this video for so long 😭 it needed to be done!!!

@user-di6zu3qh4t 3 ай бұрын

Sorry, Ute you need to have a look at Bart Kay’s response to this. This is so full of claims about ‘cause’ that are just straight out wrong! If you’re a genuine person interested in finding out the truth and not just and idealogical individual with their head in the sand then you will look at Prof Bart Kay’s response to all of his so called claims relating to LDL.

@Ohinmongl 7 күн бұрын

Listen to influencer who obviously don’t know science behind. I rather listen to carnivore doctors and Bella and dr. Westman. I have been on carnivore for 7 months and my body has healed

@scienceislove2014 8 ай бұрын

He's a surgeon.. Also, his understanding of established science (let alone all the new studies and probabilities) is very bad to say the least..

@mygirldarby 8 ай бұрын

People have been saying that there are "excess deaths" over the last few years, which began a couple of years before the pandemic. My guess is that these excess deaths are caused by the keto, low carb, carnivore, diets. Nobody is looking at diet as a cause, and very few want to admit the incredible harm these low carb fad diets are causing.

@HuckleberryHim 8 ай бұрын

There could be two things, one is that overdose deaths are up. Another is that meat consumption rates are increasing, as far as I know, among the meat-eating population. And maybe a third one, just the decline of western society in general; there are lots of other things correlated, like infant mortality going up in the US for the first time in a long time, and the Flynn Effect (intergenerational IQ increase) seeming to be reversing itself for the first time since it started. I think the carnivore fad was relatively small back then, but definitely growing. Now it is quite large, not sure exactly how large though. I suspect it will take a while to start seeing the large-scale health impact of the fad. I don't know if we can believe everything they say, but multiple people claim to have been full carnivore for over a year with apparently no major adverse events. So maybe a few-year lag to see the impacts on a large scale

@gudnikristinn 8 ай бұрын

Americans have the lowest life expectancy of all developed nations. The USA is also the place where low carb and carnivore diets are rampant because people don't listen to health organisations or look at the totality of evidence. People blame gun deaths and overdoses etc, but I am pretty sure the fact that in America 1 out of 3 dies of heart attack while in most of Europe its 1 out of 4, has something to do with it also.

@suspicionofdeceit 8 ай бұрын

We all know what’s really causing the extra deletions.

@user-cx9nc4pj8w 8 ай бұрын

@@gudnikristinn humans weren't meant to have high carb diets. After the agricultural revolution forced 90%+ to eat mostly wheat, rice, and other high carb foods health in basically every way went down. I doubt low-carb is the real reason this has occurred. The absolutely horrendous state of the American and British food industry is more to blame, it doesn't matter what it was at the beginning once its been through the processing, meat or vegetable or anything else.

@HuckleberryHim 8 ай бұрын

@@user-cx9nc4pj8w I mean, there are about 10,000 years between the agricultural revolution and the rise of "ultra-processed" foods. High-carb diets, outside a tiny number of exceptions, have always been the norm globally, even pre-agriculture. People today are much healthier in many respects that certain early Neolithic populations, and yet the food we eat is far more processed. The reason health declined was because of overreliance on a few staple crops, not a shift in macro ratios, which probably stayed pretty similar.

@HakuCell 8 ай бұрын

5:09 LDL and atherosclerosis chart. 5:21 a study on the fact that LDL gets lower after heart attacks, however not much lower (see vid for percentages). 5:46 small dense LDL seems to be only slightly riskier than large fluffy LDL.

@cryforthemoon 8 ай бұрын

The comment sections of large carnivore youtubers and smaller carnivore youtubers is so different. Comments on the smaller canivore videos are usually people saying how they're failing on the diet while on the larger ones all I see are like 2k thumbs up on comments about how someone has been doing the diet a month and their entire life is changed and they'll never eat any other way.

@broddr 8 ай бұрын

Exactly. Carnivore fans frequently bemoan the lack of peer reviewed studies on their odd diet. I heard a diet researcher say that he has tried to recruit carnivore dieters for studies, but his research needs close to a year to glean results. But so many people drop out due to problems or sheer boredom of nothing but meat. Then he’s left with too few people to achieve statistically significant conclusions. So he’s given up on future carnivore studies.

@julienfroidevaux1143 8 ай бұрын

One month 😂 I kid you not one made his friend go carnivore and was cured of major depression in a week ....

@alexlejd6601 8 ай бұрын

As a counter perspective, have you seen the comments on Mic's videos? There appears to be two extremes on both sides. I have looked through 5 videos, and in the comment sections on mics videos, there are not many critical comments, if any. What should be said in general, is that following any strict diet - that excludes things- many times, is not beneficial. It is very hard, even for a nutritionist, to know, when something important is being excluded - this goes for both vegan and carnivorous diets. If anything, a diversified diet should be promoted. And of course, fast foods and highly processed foods should be excluded - but to note, is that many people still rely on them (lack time, cheapest alternative, etc.), ergo, judgement should be passed accordingly.

@kilppa 8 ай бұрын

That scale is bullshit. I know you gotta make money, but this is not the way.

@presterjohn1697 8 ай бұрын

I bet it also reads mood like those goofy rainbow colored cards we had back in the 90's

@kilppa 8 ай бұрын

@@presterjohn1697 Heh, yeah, and tells your menstruation cycle.

@mayhu3282 8 ай бұрын

Well, I was checking reviews from users earlier today and they seemed ok

@kilppa 8 ай бұрын

@@mayhu3282 Because online reviews can be trusted, right?

@presterjohn1697 8 ай бұрын

@@kilppa ....and if I'm having salacious thoughts about my neighbor across the street! The possibilities of our personal health data being tracked with this damn foot scale are utterly infinite.

@marzettik 8 ай бұрын

Cool video. I enjoyed it.

@JoelGarland-fg3hh 4 күн бұрын

That look on his face when he found out her triglycerides were 15

@jarrydhay1255 7 ай бұрын

Bart Kay

@MarcelaKPreininger 8 ай бұрын

I thought her channel was a troll. My brain can't comprehend how anybody would voluntarily choose to eat that much steak and butter every day. Gross.

@rachelgoodkind6545 8 ай бұрын

Many humans have gone from "diet" to diet, finding what works. One thing that amazes me is several humans love consuming JUST animal stuff, they BRAG about how wonderful it is, somehow they do not get bored to death having only about 12 high fatty choices, and being very very constipated without fiber. I am not afraid of plants and I eat them as a longtime vegan.

@AlvinKazu 8 ай бұрын

@@rachelgoodkind6545" being very very constipated without fiber." What? 😆!

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@@AlvinKazuyeah dude, even though I will indulge the troll, people on carnivore diet have problems going no 2...

@Nikwunu 8 ай бұрын

@@rachelgoodkind6545of course eating animals is hard to get sick of because humans are biologically carnivores. it's vegans that are obsessed with recipes and meat imitations because they are never satisfied with what they are eating. they also fast because of the pain caused by eating fiber.

@AlvinKazu 8 ай бұрын

@@bazileia9222So a troll is someone who questions you? Makes sense that a vegan wouldn't want to have an actual conversation. Meat doesn't make you constipated.... I've had plenty of low/no veggie days and never got "constipated." Not even once in my life. On the flip side, it's all that fiber that clogs you up.... How many vegans complain of bathroom issues? Many of them. Then again, I'm ot a Carnivore.

@sherylmarshall1444 7 ай бұрын

I just eat it all!! I eat veg, fruit, plenty fibre,meat and a little butter, low GI, moderate carbs. Source of food is most important. No pesticides, herbicides, grass fed, free roaming pasture raised, well treated.

@denzilpenberthy344 7 ай бұрын

The most sensible honest reply I've ever read on a YT nutrition comments section,especially on a dogmatic vegan's video

@LelandReview 8 ай бұрын

Nearly every vegan profiting from pushing extreme diets on KZfaq has either quit or died from the lack of animal products. Wild to see you still hanging in there. Even if it takes denial of medical advice from professionals. Balanced diet for the win

@mballer 8 ай бұрын

Such as who? Can you give me a few channel names of no longer living vegans? I'd like to see what they were pushing.

@LelandReview 8 ай бұрын

@@mballer Type why I am no longer vegan into a search. Enjoy the thousands of results. They usually promoted plant based diets and supplements.

@bazileia9222 7 ай бұрын

Who died?

@LelandReview 7 ай бұрын

@@bazileia9222 Last one to die was Zhanna Samsonova. She was only 39. She fell for the cult belief that plants could sustain her.

@bazileia9222 7 ай бұрын

@LelandReview she had an eating disorder and was raw vegan. Surely, an extreme form of veganism is not representing all forms of veganism, especially for the Whole Food Plant Based...

@marlonchristmas 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Mic for the discount on Fit Track. I need a new scale and I'm thrilled to get this one with all the extra abilities!! Just ordered!

@mayhu3282 8 ай бұрын

I was surprised to see it's available in Europe too. I'll probably get one soon.

@Jarredpearman 8 ай бұрын

She showed pics of massive facial acne claiming she had that when vegan and also her vegan total cholesterol was 170-something? Why do I get the feeling she was either not truly eating vegan or that she was not doing it for any significant period of time. Her vid popped up on my feed because of whatever algorithm youtube uses, and I moused over, but didn't feel like watching it.

@spamuraisensei322 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but the thing is this isn't an isolated case. Plenty of people have reported not thriving on a vegan diet.

@randomname4726 8 ай бұрын

I think she was 'plant based' and eating tons of eggs and dairy. She's just trying to make money on KZfaq

@Jarredpearman 8 ай бұрын

@@spamuraisensei322 Did I say something contrary to your statement? That sure seems like a non-sequitur. Plenty of people change their diet radically and don't figure things out right away sure. There is a learning curve and the gut bacteria changes in response to eating habits. It needs to be approached like an exercise program. It's not gonna be the same week one as it is week 10 or 100. People reporting that is like people reporting that exercise didn't work for them. It is their best attempt at beinig scientific even though they need more insight and more time usually.

@mexdrago3009 8 ай бұрын

She was. Everyone is a liar to your cult.

@alanwhitham4 8 ай бұрын

You can eat a vegan processed junk food diet .Vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy . You can eat meat in moderation and be healthy , although I don't believe meat is natural food for humans . Then again a grass-fed organic steak is very different to a big mac !

@hillaryforpresident5005 8 ай бұрын

People in Hong Kong have the highest meat consumption per capita in the world and they live the longest. The current life expectancy for Hong Kong in 2023 is 85.29 years.

@mballer 8 ай бұрын

What kind of meat do they eat?

@travelator3035 5 ай бұрын

@@mballerThey eat anything.

@Mandy-dy7nj 4 ай бұрын

If that simple, then you'd expect the list of countries that eat the most meat to the least meat to mirror the list of countries from most long lived to least. They don't really. For example Japan is 3rd on the longevity list but quite a way down the most meat eaten list.

@polevanidr 3 ай бұрын

They have the lowest athletic achievements in China, both mainland and Taiwan. And they also combine that with a heap of soy and veggies in their meals for a balanced diet, so you can't just say it's the meat alone that is making them live longest. Truth be told thry have quite high diabetes rate and physical problems like obesity compared to the other parts of China.

@kamifaye 3 ай бұрын

Because the life expectancy rate takes a few decades to rise with meat consumption … If everyone in the US decided to start smoking tomorrow, it would take decades to see the outcomes of that. Most elders around the world ate less meat as children- but in the US, children are beginning to die younger than their parents because of decades of poor diet.

@Flower_Power888 8 ай бұрын

Mic - I admire you have patience for all this 😂

@marley7659 8 ай бұрын

Honestly we need to report this doctor for medical misinformation.

@klang180 8 ай бұрын

If it weren't for the American system he probably wouldn't even be allowed to practice

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

yes I agree we need to report Mic for his nonsensical propaganda.

@crystalbluebutterfly 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRockNonsensical propaganda??? You mean like the meat, dairy, pharmaceutical, and medical industries, who are always conditioning and programming the mainstream status quo, of farmed human animals aka sheeple, with their literal bullshit???

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

@@crystalbluebutterfly you are misguided bigtime.

@crystalbluebutterfly 8 ай бұрын

@@itsmedante.5325 Shut up! I am not! Clearly, you are though! I haven't eaten dead animals in 35 years, and I am thriving. You're no authority on the subject matter of plant-based nutrition, and herbal medicine. Maybe you should go seek some actual knowledge, and develop your own conscious awareness in the ways that i have over the course of my entire adult life, and then we will talk in 2058 to compare our note , at that point. You can let me know what you think about plant=based nutrition and herbal medicine then, and not a moment sooner. k, thanks! bye!

@NoirHammer 8 ай бұрын

It blows my mind how you have both vegan and carny cardiologists who do surgery and see the damage people do to themselves but reach different conclusion on the cause of heart disease in terms of diet. WTF.

@arjunratnadev 8 ай бұрын

well apparently they are not equally greedy, if people stopped all their bad habits and started living healthy what will the doctor's Unions do?

@silentfriend369 8 ай бұрын

Bias, ignorance, and greed tend to account for those who stray from scientifically backed consensus. Rarely are these individuals being ethical or intelligent when coming to their contradicting conclusions.

@rachelgoodkind6545 8 ай бұрын

Many humans are addicts and like what they eat, they have confirmation bias

@TheBwithers 8 ай бұрын

That is false equivalence. 1 carnivore dr and millions saying to eat more veggied whole grains and fruits.

@RiDankulous 8 ай бұрын

@@silentfriend369 I think the standard western diet can be as bad and most of the country eats it. I did for almost 5 decades before slightly high cholesterol spooked me into finding some diet to fix it: whole food-plant based worked to me.

@atomicyang6702 8 ай бұрын

You've got to have a huge safety net to be eating this way. Me I've got two dead parents from stroke. No way Im going bankrupt trying to pay back hospital. This way of eating highly subsidized. Just shows what Billion Dollar Industries want you to eat in order to keep their pockets flush with cash.

@Thunderstick-y8h 5 ай бұрын

These diet wars are getting ridiculous, I eat vegetables, low sugar fruit, fish and small amounts of meat , I don’t eat grains , processed foods , seed oils or tropical fruits. I m definitely healthier than vegans or carnivores.

@ccamire 8 ай бұрын

Mic you have not responded to any of my questions on LDL which means you dont know the answers 1) if i fast for 24 hrs, my LDL will go over 200, so is LDL the bad guy 2) if LDL is less than 1% of the materials found in plaques, why do we care about LDL as a valid biomarker? 3) the brain need cholesterol, so why do we need to have low cholesterol? 4) if the blood contains LDL all equal the body, why do we have blockages only around the large arteries not small vessels? This has been posted many times since the last 3 months But you continue to blame people for high LDL when you dont even know how lipids work Please answer or make a video so all the people can listen to these questions, thansk

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

he will never. Doesn't fit in with his narrative.

@pri.sci.lla. 8 ай бұрын

She has an ED, but people don’t want to talk about that.

@enamuossuo 8 ай бұрын

ED?

@RushyJam 8 ай бұрын

@@enamuossuoEating disorder

@enamuossuo 8 ай бұрын

@@RushyJam thanks

@granddaddyofthemall6320 8 ай бұрын

How? Meat is human's natural diet you can't have a eating disorder eating one natural diet.

@jojobeanstudio1339 8 ай бұрын

@@granddaddyofthemall6320if it was natural the longest living communities wouldn't be vegan like the Adventist Vegetarians who are 90% vegan and have the longest healthiest lives

@pablojp3498 6 ай бұрын

Vegan to carnivore = my whole personality is my diet

@thorham1346 5 ай бұрын

😂

@tucsonsolarinsider 8 ай бұрын

Mic! Love your channel. Can you possibly cut and paste here for all of us to see what the 'plausible biological mechanism' for how high LDL *causes CVD?

@DanteLikesRock 7 ай бұрын

none.

@stevephla 7 ай бұрын

I tried carnivore. My NMR particle studies improved markedly. Felt fantastic. I'd stay carnivore, but I crave variety.

@olgagerman4878 6 ай бұрын

but there's variety... different animals, different organs...

@kentroskelley1389 2 ай бұрын

⁠I’m sorry you’re eating sentient animals, but adding plant varieties will improve your health overall.

@BrettChila1928 8 ай бұрын

Ok. Then how do you explain Dr Shawn Baker, full carnivore over 10 years. Still very healthy, and no plaque in arteries. I've actually improved auto immune issues going mostly carnivore. Several compounds in many plants I cannot eat. Skin goes crazy.

@UptempoMusicLessons 7 ай бұрын

There is no proof he has no plaque in arteries as up to 40% of people with clear CAC scores have stroke and heart attacks.

@ladagspa2008 7 ай бұрын

Shawn Bakers latest labs showed hba1c at 6.3, fasting glucose at 126. These are diabetic numbers lol.

@bazileia9222 7 ай бұрын

Bajer is pre-diabetic with testosterone levels of an old man...

@erastvandoren 4 ай бұрын

How would you know that he has no plaques? Did you dissect him?

@BrettChila1928 4 ай бұрын

@@erastvandoren it's called a calcium artery scan. Very simple MRI scan to check arteries for any plaque. I had mine done recently. Im 52, eat lots of meat, fatty meat.... no plaque. Sugar and too many carbs are the real enemy. Obviously processed food!

@StRaphael88 3 ай бұрын

As a new vegan I'm excited and eager to see my LDL levels drop praying that it happens soon 🙏

@blackpalacemusic 8 ай бұрын

Since I've been vegetarian, I've seen people do Atkins and fail, Paleo and fail, Keto and fail. Carnivore is the latest low carb trend and people will inevitably fail.

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

must be why so many vegans end up feeling like garbage and end up quitting for carnivore.🤔

@JD-xh6cy 8 ай бұрын

Love your energy and delivery of information. Please keep doing your thing!

@Pi2.718 8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

delivery of MIS- information. There 👍🏻 fixed it for you.

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@@itsmedante.5325 which part exactly is misinformation here, care to elaborate?

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

@@bazileia9222 all the studies he uses. Just a bunch of smoke and mirrors. He never mentions the massive conflict of interest on the studies from statin companies. Not to mention the astounding conclusions he reaches from pathetic weak associations.

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@itsmedante.5325 you do realize your "argument" is flawed, right? Why would drug companies would benefit from studies that show improvement thru diet and not thru their drug?

@TheAleksander22 8 ай бұрын

If he's board certified he's gotta be right! 🤣

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

if Mic waves some BS studies in your face & calls it a day, he's gotta be right! 🙄

@Sovvyy 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock I'll take it over zero studies or studies that contradict the claims they are used to make.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

@@Sovvyy Looks like you're putting too much faith in these rubbish "studies". They're not science at all. They're epidemiology (bad quality epidemiology too). Pseudo-science of the highest order. Real science is performed under controlled conditions over an extended period of time. This has NEVER been done on humans as related to diet and health outcomes. Never. Plus, Bart Kay has debunked Mic here countless times.

@TheAleksander22 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock Studies can be flawed but I'll take them over a blind appeal to authority.

@alanwhitham4 8 ай бұрын

Certifiably so .

@peterz53 8 ай бұрын

Got the scale. Thanks. Her Vegan HbA1c at 5.5 was a bit higher than expected. I've been plant based for 10 years and late 60s and my HbA1c is consistently around 5% +- 0.2%. Also, any data on HbA1c less than 5% being bad as Michael Lustgarten showed a study with a U curve for all cause mortality going up under 5%? (His Ref. Glycated haemoglobin A1c as a risk factor of cardiovascular outcomes and all-cause mortality in diabetic and non-diabetic populations: a systematic review and meta-analysis 2017).

@Avianthro 8 ай бұрын

I'm betting there's a strong positive correlation between being a flat-earther or geocentrist and being a carnivore.

@alanwhitham4 8 ай бұрын

Avianthro Don't be ridiculous . I know we don't live on a spinning ball hurtling through space . I also know we are not carnivores .

@Avianthro 8 ай бұрын

@@alanwhitham4 There's always an outlier or two.

@alanwhitham4 8 ай бұрын

@@Avianthro Thank goodness . Someone has to lead the way .

@Avianthro 8 ай бұрын

@@alanwhitham4 Godspeed!

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

you're confused with vegans! who completely go against what nature intends humans to eat.

@michaelmackey754 8 ай бұрын

You are the best… You make me laugh constantly

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

I agree. His understanding of science is hilarious and laughable. Always a good laugh to see how little he knows.

@kimscheuer8023 8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, she will keep physicians in business.

@RiDankulous 8 ай бұрын

It's a bad message, but the standard western diet does the same, and by far the most people in the country eat it. I did for almost 5 decades but I fixed it.

@DanteLikesRock 7 ай бұрын

unfortunately, vegans will keep big pharma in business.

@ultramegasuper11 6 ай бұрын

Thanks 😊

@kubakielbasa5987 6 ай бұрын

The truth always comes up on top. In 30 years our kids will laugh at our arguments.

@jeanneamato8278 8 ай бұрын

I think someone is getting paid to not tell the truth.

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

yes, all the scientists in the studies Mic uses.

@hlits6310 6 ай бұрын

Mick, you’re only lever that you can pull is that high LDL is bad. Everything else improves in terms of blood markers. Could it just be that high LDL in the context of Very Good triglycerides and HDL, is actually healthy for you? I think you have backed the wrong horse.

@CrazyCanadianCarnivore 6 ай бұрын

We're onto you, Mr. Editor. The truth is setting everyone free.

@lorezyra 7 ай бұрын

Could it be, as a businessman, that cardiologist is happy to encourage people to become his future customer? If everyone "went vegan" a lot of doctors would start going out of business as their entire business model is based on "sick care" instead of actual "health care..."

@DanteLikesRock 7 ай бұрын

False. if everybody went vegan, big pharma would make 💵💵💵 because they would've made cholesterol look like the bad guy. EVEN WHEN IT ISN'T.

@DanteLikesRock 6 ай бұрын

youre missing the big picture. farmaceutical companies benefit from making LDL look like the bad guy, when it is not.

@lorezyra 6 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock Not at all... America's "Sick Care" is incentivized to addict its "customers" on any and every pill they can patent. When the doctor asks why you didn't buy & fill the prescription he/she gave you, it's because the pharmaceutical companies give a small commission to the doctor. That's how they know.

@captainpawpawchannel 8 ай бұрын

it looks like there's a huge meat industry counter attack these days, a lot of carnivore video recommandations on youtube, ridiculous and sad...

@cryforthemoon 8 ай бұрын

I saw some carnivore dieters proclaiming their excitement of their diet "going mainstream" now.

@md82892 6 ай бұрын

You don’t need a full video to explain her results. Her body adapted to burning fat and she is called “lean mass hyper responder”. Her situation is perfectly healthy and easily explainable. Just search youtube for “A Simple Analogy to Explain High ApoB and Why LMHR May Be Different” video and you’ll understand why this mic the vegan guy is completely clueless about this topic.

@karlwheatley1244 6 ай бұрын

"Her body adapted to burning fat and she is called “lean mass hyper responder”. Her situation is perfectly healthy and easily explainable." Mic the Vegan has a new video out that absolutely destroys that LMHR study, and meanwhile in the real world, a mountain of research proves that elevated LDL is causal for heart disease.

@karlwheatley1244 6 ай бұрын

@@Albdean "Mic isn't an expert of anything. He reads Google bias Vegan Articles as facts. That's all he does. lol" Mic has a masters' degree in public health with a focus on nutrition. I am a senior university professor and researcher who has studied and taught about healthy nutrition and nutrition myths for more than a decade. From that vantage point, I can report that Mic's videos present quite accurate information even if his tone can be a bit snarky.

@karlwheatley1244 6 ай бұрын

@@Albdean To simplify, mountains of research shows that the best overall long-term health outcomes have been achieved by diets dominated by whole plant foods--whether vegan or not--and most of the diets that achieved the best outcomes had levels of fat consumption lower than what Americans would consider to be low fat diets (more like 8-18% calories from fat; only 3-6% calories from saturated fat). There's simply no evidence very high fat diets (or diets high in animal foods) can be as healthy in the long run (decades), and we know lots of scientific reasons why that is so (ex: lots of toxic chemicals naturally accumulate at high levels in the fat of animals, so meat eaters have been found to have much higher levels of toxic chemicals in their bodies). Take care.

@natebrook 6 ай бұрын

He’s being a beta simp due to his diet. Easily triggered and very reactive. His feminine side is taking over his masculine side. The diet effed up his hormones real bad and it’s showing clearly.

@MagdalenaMocarny 6 ай бұрын

@@Albdeani wish I never tried carnivore. I had huge medical bill from emergency room. I had during 3 years several health issues on carnivore. Human is not carnivore. Carnivore animals have hard nails, they drink water with tongue, they have closed eyes on birth moment etc. Human is primate mammal.

@L3ttucePr3y 7 ай бұрын

It's all about moderation. I eat lean chicken and fish every now and then. Maybe I have a small amount of red meat once every couple of weeks. I don't understand people that go so hard into these diets on either side, both carnivore and vegan. Imo they are both not sustainable in the long run.

@wolfthemandalorian3328 7 ай бұрын

Fair enough. However, when I was big on vegetables for years. I finally realized I was sicker than hell. Horrible stomach and digestion issues. Horrible back and shoulder pain.. I fixed it by going steak salt water only. I've been eating this way for 2 years now. I will never touch another vegetable...

@vietnamd0820 8 ай бұрын

Her LDL is frighteningly high

@presterjohn1697 8 ай бұрын

Carnivore Diet as presented over the past 5 years is a industry sponsored psy-op. The people who push it are either complicit (or) dumb as hell.

@julienfroidevaux1143 8 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter if you are carnivore .😂

@kelliott7864 8 ай бұрын

Triglycerides are amazing, though.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

so what.

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

your lack of critical thinking is frighteningly high.

@erinm1218 8 ай бұрын

Suspicious her cholesterol was 175 as a vegan.... I'm far from a whole foods vegan and my cholesterol is under 100... Most likely she was not actually following a vegan diet at all.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

it's laughable the extents you vegans go to try rationalize your nonsense diet. There are many whole food vegans who have high cholesterol. That itself shows that the vegan diet is useless, even by your own definition of "LDL bad". Vegans debunked by themselves once again!

@RiDankulous 8 ай бұрын

I believe it's very possible as a junk food vegan. There's a wide variety of health levels among plant-exclusive diets, mainly because of the heavily processed foods readily available. I personally stick to whole food-plant based but I have slightly high blood pressure, possibly due to high sodium intake, which I am carefully measuring now. It's easy for some people to let it get out of control.

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

stop the mental gymnastics. just admit that your vegan diet sucks and isn't healthy even by your own definitions of "LDL bad".

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

oh yeah right.🙄 good way to rationalize your BS diet!

@jimlofts5433 6 ай бұрын

what are your trigs ?? the calculated LDL - thats right calculated LDL (Friedewalt Equation) goes lower with high trigs and higher with lower trigs so vegan LDL 81 trigs 97 carni LDL 264 trigs 15 - Are high trigs good ?? - "High triglycerides can increase your risk of cardiovascular disease, including stroke, heart attack and heart disease. A high triglyceride level is one of the signs of metabolic syndrome. This is a collection of health conditions that increase your risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes. (Health Direct)" So what are your trigs !! - talk to your doctor if concerned

@jimmyobrien8738 8 ай бұрын

Whilst the vegans and carnivores fight amongst themselves, il be eating steak and veggies 😉

@HappyComfort 5 ай бұрын

😢 Years ago when I went on Atkins diet, it made me throw up blood so I had to stop it thank goodness I did. Years and years later I decided to have one day , because we were on a trip, and no good food was available some red meat beef jerky well that gave me bloody diarrhea, so I know that red meat and my body are not friends. Additionally, I did go on a vegan diet for one month and my cholesterol dropped 79 points in one month. so those experiences along with many others have convinced me that the truth really is plant-based diet is the healthiest!

@shawns4354 8 ай бұрын

Has she never heard of getting a 2nd oppinion????

@nreed7718 5 ай бұрын

Why seek one out when there is an authority willing to confirm your beliefs. ;)

@MercyForTheInnocent 8 ай бұрын

thank you for your hard work Mic. much love and respect!

@dannyk1655 10 күн бұрын

all these 'authorities' also say you should eat 40% of carbs - breads grains etc. So trust your sources if you want to!

@BladeRonnie 8 ай бұрын

The carnivore diet seems to be the familial hypercholesterolemia simulator.

@itsmedante.5325 7 ай бұрын

people with hypercholesterolemia live perfectly normal, healthy lives. Next.

@Devilkin 8 ай бұрын

That cardiologist should lose his license. How ridiculously biased and careless of him to promote such an unhealthy diet.

@stevencats7137 8 ай бұрын

Makes you question lots of doctors. Just because someone passed university classes doesn’t mean they’re smart. The amount of times I was told “oh your wrists hurt? Your back hurts? Eat meat!” Turns out I needed to stop using the smith machine at the gym for my wrists and started working on mobility and core stability for my back and now I’m fine 🤡

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

tell me smart guy, what's unhealthy about it. I'm waiting.

@stevencats7137 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock high amounts of Saturated fat has been shown in a huge amount of high quality studies to increase cholesterol and apoB. And high appB causes heart disease. It’s not even controversial, these are well documented facts. Check out the KZfaq channel “nutrition made simple” and his saturated fat or ApoB videos. He usually has at least 20-30 high quality studies linked as references and breaks them down

@bazileia9222 8 ай бұрын

@dantelikesrock CVD, colo-rectal cancer.... How about you naming those 30+ years carnivores that you say exist?

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

@@bazileia9222 "65 yrs carnivore"- look it up.

@presterjohn1697 8 ай бұрын

.....but the carnivores are pissed at the idea of eating bugs, slugs, and grubs because of Klaus Schwab. You can't make this stuff up.

@videoartsproductions1 8 ай бұрын

The animals eat bugs and we eat the animals so meat eaters are eating bugs and getting veggies too.

@presterjohn1697 8 ай бұрын

@@videoartsproductions1 Not sure where you're sourcing your data from but humans across the globe have consumed a whole host of terrestrial and aquatic invertebrates for thousands of years. None of this is news.

@alanwhitham4 8 ай бұрын

They'll eat each other before they'll eat the food God gave us .

@presterjohn1697 8 ай бұрын

@@alanwhitham4 The Carnivore Diet......a slippery slope to cannibalism. Neanderthals ate each other often so this isn't a leap.

@alanwhitham4 8 ай бұрын

@@presterjohn1697 Who knows ? Zombie Apocalypse .

@roginutah 8 ай бұрын

I wonder about trying to match my blood work to the average person who, in the US, is significantly overweight and has heart disease as the #1 (and #2?) cause of death. What was that about the 28 & 33 yo patients who had 90 & 97% build up? Carnivore for only one year? Can that happen in one year?

@kentroskelley1389 2 ай бұрын

I think Dr Ovadia (sp?) missed the part about “Do No Harm”

@VeganLinked 8 ай бұрын

Damn it Mic, I bought that FitTrack smart scale! :) This'll be fun!

@JohnDoe-xk1dv 8 ай бұрын

There's sadly "gurus" out there now to tell people what they want to hear, on just about any subject. Shawn Baker (aka Shawn Faker) would be proud of the mental gymnastics and self-justification of this lady and her doctor, on her diet.

@justingallant8558 8 ай бұрын

Shaun faker lmao is that really an insult hahaha what are you 8 yrs old

@JohnDoe-xk1dv 8 ай бұрын

@@justingallant8558 unfortunately, more an accurate description, and less the insult - and not coined by me. Baker has ignored any robust science that disagrees with his message and brands, and tells people what they want to hear. That makes him a fake alright.

@DanteLikesRock 8 ай бұрын

so ironic coming from someone listening to Mic. LOL.

@JohnDoe-xk1dv 8 ай бұрын

@@DanteLikesRock another troll then I see. As we were.

@itsmedante.5325 8 ай бұрын

@@JohnDoe-xk1dv it's ironic because here you are eating up Mic's propaganda. He has been destroyed and debunked countless times already by professor Bart Kay.

@genericyoutubechannel6180 8 ай бұрын

Missed the opportunity to do a Deadpool blood pool joke.😂

@fidrewe99 6 ай бұрын

If the carnivore diet was not such a disaster for animals and the environment, I'd be glad that finally, nature has found a way of natural selection to reduce stupidity and egoism in a society which protects people from themselves and encourages egoism.