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@sadiapsychology2 ай бұрын
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@davidenglish3022 ай бұрын
Dad was a narcissist and a degenerate gambler . He was hurt early in his life and suffered from his demons , had to learn to love him, my hard earned boundaries made that possible, RIP Dad❤
@Neoteny3742 ай бұрын
Grew up with four sisters and she's right when she says a guy gets to see the world through a female lense. Sometimes it helps (I can read my wife well) sometimes it hinders (waiting to be rescued rather than fighting)
@TheRocket5552 ай бұрын
Same here and true
@user-rx7uh9mg4f2 ай бұрын
I briefly dated a man who had four sisters. Although he was wonderful in some aspects (sensitive, empathy, listened well) he was complaining, whining and wanted me to treat him like a woman as well but imitating and reassuring him everyday that I like him. I felt like I was his female friend/mother at times and it didn’t work out.
@eyeinsee2 ай бұрын
Mothers love their son men raise their sons. Its just a saying don’t attack me
@eyeinsee2 ай бұрын
@@TheMegaTushar its true in most situations but not all but that doesn’t make it nonsensical. It just doesn’t apply to your experience try not to be so dismissive .
@fruitsarelife70732 ай бұрын
Only a good father, mine is a boy himself so he doesnt serve as a role model for my little brother, but he is present
@user-bd1nh8kp5p2 ай бұрын
♥️💪
@sandrajuresiute89252 ай бұрын
This is interesting because they say women birth to girls to heal their relationships with their mothers, and boys to learn how to love.
@mattconrad2 ай бұрын
Wonderful, Sadia! You have such great insight into everything!
@josephkramer86832 ай бұрын
Sadia is so smart and really makes sense regarding her observations!
@MichaelSelby-ee5gg2 ай бұрын
Good night my name is Michael I am from Trinidad and Tobago. I just want to thank you for your professional feed back on those topics you are entailing. I strongly believe that your explaining of those things are true against all those other podcast with persons who are not professionals.
@Missmay7772 ай бұрын
💯 👏 Thanks, Sadia, You’ve always stayed true to who you are and what you believe in, re what makes a thriving relationship/ family unit and I want to say THANK YOU for doing so!, Even though I’m sure you get some backlash based on how nuts our western/modern values currently are (which completely change the way men and women are intended to thrive). I appreciate you so much and I pray that God continues to give you strength, guidance, and determination to keep on going forward and sharing your expertise with the world! ❤
@user-jl7cb1fg2r2 ай бұрын
I actually disaggree. There is a difference between tough love and banter and NON-sense criticism. It depends from what place that comes from.
@Hunyice252 ай бұрын
Yes! Non sense criticism is the perfect phrase!
@MzFieldz2 ай бұрын
Yeah I try to hear her out but I think a lot of what she says is culturally biased. Her views on gender roles are almost always stereotypical of people in her culture. My culture shares a lot of similarities but I do wonder how her views are received by the masses
@sadiapsychology2 ай бұрын
@@MzFieldz what makes you think that Western culture is superior?? Why don’t we look at the suicide and mental health and divorce rates and then assess which culture is better
@robertbergmann4252 ай бұрын
@@sadiapsychology She didn't say or impose that western culture is superior. No need for competition.
@user-jl7cb1fg2r2 ай бұрын
@@MzFieldz yes, I was thinking the same, but found it difficult to word it so well so I didn’t add it to my initial comment.
@LloydVenske2 ай бұрын
I can listen to her all day. Stirling advice
@michellestlicitra91052 ай бұрын
Great points!
@janpierzchala20042 ай бұрын
Glorious Sadia
@GregoritaGrieves2 ай бұрын
On the next video can you please talk about the oldest child taking care of the kids in the house, and having to stay out of school because of that and more about the affect on the oldest child growing up
@southphillylilly2 ай бұрын
That's a bit of a niche.... I don't know a single person in my life that had that experience
@GregoritaGrieves2 ай бұрын
@@southphillylilly well i am that person
@user-bd1nh8kp5p2 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the things about the son father relation-ship.
@Enzo_NM2 ай бұрын
Great vid.. next level!
@missmitzijane2 ай бұрын
If your definition of a "good dad"' who critisizes raises "feminine" men, then shouldnt that way of raising boys be avoided? Sadia, you like sports anologies. A good coach motivates, uplifts, gives tools to face challenges and in return, creates players with a strong character. If this son were to get teased, I would argue they would have thicker skin and would not be phased because they are resilient and have self confidence. Meanwhile, a coach who yells and is demeening has players develop low self esteem, insecurities and perfectionism. This son would feel the need to bury feelings, constantly wear a mask and feel belittled inside. We need to break the cycle and encourage our children to grow in wisdom and mental and emotional fortitude.
@sadiapsychology2 ай бұрын
Coaches are not soft and cuddly. You’ve clearly never played a sport if you think that they are very harsh and critical but yet still give unconditional support.
@missmitzijane2 ай бұрын
@@sadiapsychology I am surprised by your response since you are the psychologist here. You are putting words in my mouth and that is a huge example of BLACK AND WHITE thinking. I did not say "soft and cuddly" at all. I would call it "Authoritative Parenting". In this parenting style, the parents are nurturing, responsive, and supportive, yet set firm limits for their children. They attempt to control children's behavior by explaining rules, discussing, and reasoning. They listen to a child's viewpoint but don't always accept it." This is VASTLY different than what you are encouraging which is more aligned with "Authoritarian".
@sadiapsychology2 ай бұрын
@@missmitzijane olets stick to logic...so what outcome is better ? when have kids have the most disorders, suicide, depression, and anxeity??? if its all higher in cultures with soft parenting do some reseach EDUCATE and then speak
@sadiapsychologyАй бұрын
@@kevinmurphy108 prime exmaple of the sensitive men I am speaking about
@cindyrobertson28 күн бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. You are a beautiful inside and out. Thanks for the video. You are different from all the others. You speak the truth
@kitten03312 ай бұрын
She just described my 2 recent exes! Definitely gonna pay more attention to this when dating
@Espia-zx4ot2 ай бұрын
thanks Sadia!
@orangewarm12 ай бұрын
Having seen my sisters and mum get involved with wrong men, i can give a few pointers: i) If he is loud/open with you but quiet/shy in front of your family ii) If he is too good to be true iii) if he is amazingly confident, determine whether he is an unstable or stable extrovert. iV) Know your personality types: you are looking for either: low extrovert/low neurotic (women tend to be favorably biased towards extroverts), or stable extroverts.
@DaveE992 ай бұрын
Neurotic has nothing to do with it.
@user-ow2hw2dl2sАй бұрын
Wow, why are u so right 💜my ex had daddy issues and was so insecure and everything wrong
@dhruvluhar2 ай бұрын
I felt you were talking about me, but my reason to not talking to him is he cheated my mom and on top of that he was abusive as well. Am i doing right? Or how to change this pattern in my behaviour coz I don't wanna be red flag
@JagirRaoCanBeInjuriousToHealth2 ай бұрын
Both of my parents were nice and pampering. Here I am. Sensitive. Can't take any heat.
@saneman71772 ай бұрын
2 friends from my past come to mind, they could dish out the banter all day long but as soon as you fired back they would get massively triggered & upset… it was infuriating to the point I stopped hanging out with them, one of them I would constantly point this out to & the response was a denial that he’d said anything bad to anyone… both of them had shitty fathers one of whom died young… it’s something I’ve had to work through also, the problem isn’t constructive criticism from a father, it’s when the criticism is unjustified or not based on reality & comes from their unhappiness… add to that the complete lack of anything else other than that, your not helping you’re just abusing at that point… after time it creates resentment. At least I had the balls to confront my father about it in my early 20’s, most people I know with crap fathers just whine about it but to their face they say nothing.
@alphaplus81182 ай бұрын
Nice video cut at the end👍🏻👍🏻
@shizane1012 ай бұрын
Thank God there are still women in the world like this that don't deny nature, but in fact embrace it
@michellestlicitra91052 ай бұрын
Love you Sadia 😘
@casadimilano70482 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you because I’m one of those men that you’re talking about who doesn’t get a long with his father. What is the solution? I think it’s to be more understanding of my father and know that he was coming from a good place. To forgive him and love him more.
@CelenadzАй бұрын
I 100% agree on everything you said, by experience!
@Cheryn772 ай бұрын
Thank you I understand now I always thought men were just being critical to me I took it personally..my dad and mom died when I was very young so I had to find out alot of hard things
@FarizCircleXVIP2 ай бұрын
deadly right i have male friend like this exactly what shadia told 100% accurate
@Halcyon_Dream2 ай бұрын
Not all men are hypercritical, cold, and distant. That is incorrect.
@dazzer2732 ай бұрын
Brilliant video
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT REAL LOVE,DEFINITELY THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE ARE THERE TOO.
@iammoxxi2 ай бұрын
Wowwwwwww you are soooo right
@tarigel-kithiri66192 ай бұрын
Fathers and sons are to be friends at some point in life so as to upgrade ourselves to the next level...just remember not to cross ur friend ....
@maryiahermanovich74352 ай бұрын
Hi Sadia, thank you so much for this video! I have a question please: I just met a guy whose father left his mum when the guy was like 5 yo. So basically he grew up just with his mum and he has a negative opinion about his dad (who actually left the family), so he has a point, I guess? In this situation, should I see this red flag or is it a normal situation and I should proceed with getting to know the guy further? P.S. When we met I noticed his feminine like gestures; I also had given him some constructive feedback that apparently offended him. That is why I ask the question as I seem to be confused if he has this red flag. Thanks! Maryia
@ramparkash23182 ай бұрын
@maryiahermanovich .7435. Really your question is so smart as like you. I would say its red flag.
@maryiahermanovich7435Ай бұрын
@@ramparkash2318 thank you! Actually, already on the 4th meeting with this guy he behaved hysterically and he left just when we were walking on the street. We are done already haha
@radfoo722 ай бұрын
David Hammond's video released today supports some of what Sadia says here regarding men only having being fostered by women. It's a video geared towards Men and it's called "Do Not Take Advice From Women". (Don't merely judge the book by the cover, it's Not misogynistic but rather explains that men and women operate by different dynamics)
@metricdeep8856Ай бұрын
Your parental relationship is nothing compared to a monetized KZfaq video. The high sub count is directly related to the cuteness.
@KyshaliseАй бұрын
My ex yes. He said his dad was too harsh which was true but he could not take criticism from me! Spot on. He would silent treatment me
@estelaa.67372 ай бұрын
At least you mention people that criticize fathers with substance and addiction/alcoholism as merited though,, many people don’t understand needing to have boundaries witch your parents when they’re like this - addicted/alcoholic and abusive -
@ammarchen88502 ай бұрын
Sadia, could you make a video on hypergamy?
@squeezycakes2 ай бұрын
Guilty from #1...scared to go on 😢
@revogenmediadotco2 ай бұрын
Dont judge yourself. If you have a valid reason, no need to feel guilty. I dont have a relationship with my father because he himself was not interested in building and nurturing it, nor was he interested in my life and problems generally.
@saneman71772 ай бұрын
It’s very common nowadays, particularly in broken homes in my opinion
@Usernamesarestupid772 ай бұрын
My dad was a great guy and he wasn’t feminine. He loved and respected his dad and brother but had a close relationship with his mother who was married to his father and there was never a divorce or much tension that I know of; but at times the father was harsh on my dad all that did was have my dad pursue a relationship with a woman (my mom) who was like his father and too tough on him, in my opinion not how a wife should be to their man: I’m disappointed by it and felt my dad deserved better. While that you’re saying is true for some men it really is a case by case thing And should be treated super carefully that both our parents influence us in some way, one parent might have more influence than the other but the issues that are created are unique to the dynamic
@user-hx7uj5ck9y25 күн бұрын
Spot on. 100%
@Queenbg1Ай бұрын
Missed the part where the father have to teach the young boy how to be a man, not only criticize, because it will create in him feelings of failure and not being good enough, no matter what he do. Criticism is good to be constructive one, otherwise is useless. Father is protector, but also a mentor. He is stable and not fear the position of being disliked for what he do for the sake of long-term development of the child. No matter how the kid will perceive it initially. That is where explanations come or personal example. Question: let say you are in such position of feminine man, loser, broken, etc. What now? What should you do to fix yourself when you lack unconditional love of your mother and masculine example and mentorship of your father? Easy to point the problem, hard to provide working solution.
@didierbaudot2 ай бұрын
I have a question for Sadia is being a very high sensitive person as a man a red flag for women when he's a good person with a nice personality?
@FarizCircleXVIP2 ай бұрын
i love subtitle
@GH0STD3M0NnoOni2 ай бұрын
can that be fixed?
@SmajorX2 ай бұрын
You should make most of your content free and sell a book or a course. Or can you please make a book or a course and keep the patron bc I really love your content sadia
@user-fj9zy8ce4o2 ай бұрын
Subscribed
@TD-es5py2 ай бұрын
I'm a big red flag for women just by myself and I love it so much !
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
WHILE WORKING AFTER MIDNIGHT WHEN I WAS STOPPED FOR INQUIRY, I DIDN'T SEE ANY REASON TO BE STOPPED, I CALLED 911.
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
I REMEMBER ONCE, TWO LADIES TRIED IMAM FOR THEIR PART,BUT HE HAD ASSET PROTECTION.
@ManjushaLuther-zd2jn2 ай бұрын
Well said. Guys who have women's perspective have girly attitude
@MD.ManuwarulIslamFreelancer2 ай бұрын
Very impressive video
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
I BELIEVE THIS KIND OF SNEREO TO ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T CONSULT TO THEIR LAWYERS.
@linanna872 ай бұрын
But is there anything wrong with dating a feminine man? I am a bit more on the masculine side and so I think my boyfriend and I complement each other
@TheRocket5552 ай бұрын
Maybe a more feminine man is secure enough to when it comes to expressing emotions or feelings. A lot of times when a man can't or wont do that with his woman, a man say who maybe is more in tune with his feelings and hers becomes what is necessary for that deeper connection she yearns for
@lovepeace89182 ай бұрын
My father abused me was a meth addict he shot up meth and stayed in his room all weekend doing nasty things, had porn all around the home all the time, for years and years, and was a workaholic, he beat me and my brother, and we were very poor. Ran off my mother when I was 5 years old, and eventually my grandfather got my father a good job, and so my father made lots of money, now he is rich, but he would never help me, always had no time for me, I been disabled since childhood with depression. So I am disabled, never found a healthy loving relationship, hyper sexual wants, addicted to pain meds, due to painful back injuries. I turned out a little like like he was, at his worst, but I never had kids, thank god. I know I have red flags, I'm a mess.
@TheRocket5552 ай бұрын
I'd like a show on how to get a good quality woman if I don't make a lot of money. I had a hell of a life so kinda got caught up daily survival rather than concentrating on future success I guess. I work really hard but don't make a lot of money. What the hell does a guy say when meeting someone? Just started listening to you and I think I'll sign up on your site to ask you questions
@persona53052 ай бұрын
what is tough love and the difference with abusive father?
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
ATTRACTIVE THINGS MAKE US TO WRONG OR RIGHT TOO.
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
ONLY ASSET PROTECTION SAVE WEALTHY MEN AND WOMEN BECAUSE OF GREEDINESS PEOPLE GO AGAINST EACHOTHER, ESPECIALLY AT THE TIME OF CLOSING ON HOUSE DEALS.
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
MY ONE OF THE DEARS PUT INQUIRY ON ME AND FORGOT I WAS HIS DADY.
@user-bc7ii5yg4m2 ай бұрын
i have a question what if hes loyal and shit but when we talk dirty he brings up weird fantasies like gang bang but then he says that he would never do this in real life but only for the sake of making the talk more fun on chatt? is this something to worry about idkkkk we have been dating for nearly 2 years
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
I STRICTLY STAYED ON SUPPORT OF MY PARENTS,THEIR LOVE ONES FOR LAST 25 YEARS BECAUSE OF SAINTS PRAYERS.
@dits20072 ай бұрын
"As soon as a woman belongs to us, we are no longer subject to her." Michel de Montaigne, (Essays, 1580). Sadia, what do you think?
@kc63842 ай бұрын
Someone clarify what this quote means. Are they talking about marriage? Who’s us? When exactly does a woman belong to a man?
@dits20072 ай бұрын
@@kc6384 It is Montaigne from 1580. He writes "when we [men] have nothing more to wish for and hope for, the essential charm [of a woman] is gone for us. So women should really feel a holy fear of us completely dominating and possessing them." It is written in an incredibly humane way, without any vanity, without hiding anything. Incredibly relevant even after almost 500 years
@southphillylilly2 ай бұрын
@@dits2007we should have a holy fear ??? That's asinine ... holy fear doesn't even make sense. I could give AF if a man changes his mind about me
@dits20072 ай бұрын
@@southphillylilly I didnt wrote this. And though I might be displeased about what he confessed here, I see some truth in it. I think he is just being brutally honest and tries to give somehow advise to women.
@radfoo722 ай бұрын
@@dits2007 Like mouths, closed minds don't get fed. Don't mind if you cast out some pearls and hear swine snorting from the sidelines. I appreciate those quotes because they insightfully speak on male dynamics. See John 4:32 Some truths aren't for everyone but for those who can receive. Others will cringe and find it unpalatable either due to ignorance or because they prefer a warm bottle of milk to comfort them over actual substance that provides more sustenance.
@melbaT27702 ай бұрын
My ex disrespected his dad for this. He would give me the silent treatment for any type of criticism.
@nerozero_2 ай бұрын
Maybe you criticize him only when you are arguing about something else. (just thinking of excluding your part in it)
@RaymondBaxterthegreat2 ай бұрын
This is very good advice
@rubayashahid14552 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more
@ramparkash23182 ай бұрын
@rubayashahid 1455. Really. ?
@carjhb2 ай бұрын
Where can I learn more about the masculine and feminine versions of love…
@bozku88152 ай бұрын
Danke!
@estelaa.67372 ай бұрын
Fathers can be a voice of guidance, support and practicality but so can mothers. And parents don’t have to be dream killers. There’s a difference. I hear you but at times I think you need to use better examples or words. Locker room talk, to joke around with each other is one thing but to bully is another. The words like “loser” sounds awful. This sounds like it’s proposing machismo and toxic masculinity to be the norm - but where has that got society ? Men who feel they can’t be artistic or express themselves or emotionally respond bc then people like you will say “you’re not a man”. You’re a beautiful and smart woman. You don’t have to cater to male ego. It makes an audience and money, but is it really helpful to society? Men with high suicide rates, depression? We need more men to emotionally express in a heathy way -
@funkymunky2 ай бұрын
Far more complex than that...
@user-jf8qy6ff2o2 ай бұрын
After I sent a playlist to Morgan these freaks deleted everything in my KZfaq
@David_Nastran2 ай бұрын
i justl clcked the 1k like :D
@TomRocket-zo3hfАй бұрын
My dad was a twat
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
PEOPLE OR GOVERNMENT TRUST MOSQUE FOR CERTAIN LIMITS NOT LONG ENOUGH.
@D.M.S.2 ай бұрын
Firstly: I agree with your observation. I noticed the same in friends and acquaintances. My father (sober drunk) was strong, but his mother was a textbook narcissist, and he married a woman that acts similar, my mother (a drunk). Secondly: My father was (is) emotional available and spoke the truth to me. But he also supported me. I love that man. He endured so much shit, bankruptcy, cancer, manipulation, a betrayal by the own brother and psycho terror from his own wife. And he is still the most decent man I have ever known. About locker room talk, masculine behavior, dads and schools: Locker room talk is overrated. I was almost beaten to death three times, because I had red hair. My school time was hell. Everyday beating, real torture (pulled my nails and such shit). The teacher didn't care. But my father was a pacifist, so no violence was allowed. Snitching made it worse, so that was not an option. I had to fight eight guys at once at some days. They tormented others as well, but I went in between and took the beating. Taunt them, that their punches were weak. Yeah, I guess I toughened up or got traumatized, whatever! At the fourth attempt of killing me, school property broke because of me. They tried to crush me between a wooden door and a stone wall. The door broke before I did. Suddenly, I had to pay the door, because I could have said "stop".... That was when I flipped and explained to the principal and all teachers in the near vicinity what was really happening here in this school and that I have the scars to prove it, and when they don't act, I would go to the press. At that day, nothing changed. Then there was a mass shooting in a school in the same state, and suddenly everyone was afraid of me, because I was also a bullied quiet kid. Funny thing is, never fired a shot in my life. Never even held a gun. But I had peace after that. This did not occur in the US.
@TheMegaTushar2 ай бұрын
Why did they say as reason fr bullying u, I just wanna understand ur experiencw
@MadivadaRavi2 ай бұрын
Life is a experience I believe
@KyshaliseАй бұрын
Yes
@user-bd1nh8kp5p2 ай бұрын
Sadia, if more women would respect their father this world would be better. Thank you for placing sucg an importance on fathers. I am not one, neither do I intend to be one, but as Robert Bly said "There isn't enougy father".
@user-rx7uh9mg4f2 ай бұрын
Fathers that don’t act like fathers naturally wouldn’t get respect in return. Mine SA me as a child.. how can I respect such a man?
@hafizulasad987Ай бұрын
ESPECIALLY PEOPLE FROM OTHER WORLD ARE HERE TO MAKE MONEY NOT TO DONATE MONEY.
@user-jf8qy6ff2o2 ай бұрын
Hi Sadia checking in I asked Morgan to get a HOTEL for me her mom and sisters tonight pay upfront until the end of the month karmics freaks here are getting desperate and they have life insurance policies on all of us
@Certified..mac..8182 ай бұрын
🌬✨️yaup🚾😇🪬🌺❤️🔥🌴🔮♻️🧘🏽🧞♂️🫡🔥 Slow motion that.☮️
@rizwanawarasally95172 ай бұрын
True
@The_magic_mountain332 ай бұрын
I feel how a man is to his mother is the bigger indicator to how a guy will treat his wife or girlfriend .
@ryanfinnerty62392 ай бұрын
But a man can only love one woman
@The_magic_mountain332 ай бұрын
@ryanfinnerty6239 not true at all if your an honest real man .... most men can love many women ... truth...
@Southernburrito2 ай бұрын
My Father is an honorable Man. 😌
@tn-no7nt2 ай бұрын
Do you think Karen is Critical?
@user-up9jf1jq2w2 ай бұрын
Well this description of masculinity that was given by you is very attractive.
@MrOJohn16 күн бұрын
I get what shes saying.
@williamnovas94912 ай бұрын
More common sense from this pretty face. Refreshing.
@odettesauti19712 ай бұрын
I wish l had known this before l got married 😢
@faisalshabbir4082 ай бұрын
Sadia woman psychology is not that easy to understand it is very unpredictable.
@paulsaragosa3712 ай бұрын
Let 😅 play 20 questions the game 😅
@user-mb9yq3yk6m2 ай бұрын
Hello Madam , where are you. ? Lets build an Order for the good life of coming generations , we dont need political leaders, we need social leaders . I want to come and meet you. 🙏🙏
@akarshbahukhandi32982 ай бұрын
Green flags in men
@martsharpe7092 ай бұрын
1 red flag I hate my dad, and all my step dads
@Lc-yy6rn2 ай бұрын
my mum was a savior ,bad choices for genitors god bless ,the step dad never came back and she stayed alone ,try to not do the same choices as romantic partners, an empath mum who turned borderline , i became a good therapist with a single mum , if there are bad step dads there is a bad family on her side and that she was conditionned ,skapegoat or black sheep in families where there is division ,it s most of families in this world, i politely mirrored my genitor when he tried to discard me after a cute comedy ,lucky me to be an ifnj heyoka ,narcissists and enablers shame is very good when you are strong they can't face you 🤣thank you sadia for always good logic ,patterns,angles ,vibes ,i wish you a lot of success ,peace and joy in your life !
@timothywilson32532 ай бұрын
Sadia Kahn , my question is, I'm still impressed by the way you end a video with Sadia talking over Sadia . Ps . Stop communicating like you're just wrapping up the last few days of a lifelong trauma , ( the panicked talking - quick -deep -inhale thing) 👀.
@timothywilson32532 ай бұрын
O, one more thing , I was just re-listening to your video and this talk doesn't seem to add up . This is the very first video I've ever seen of yours that doesn't have at minimum of 50% indisputable content 🤔
@joaomarcos59652 ай бұрын
Wtf I grew up knowing I am orphan. I flip everyone's else