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@SethJamesDeMoor 2 жыл бұрын
doh, Outsole title a little off, you'll see what I mean : ) Thanks for tuning in DGR, onward and upward!
@Phoenix_Core 2 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the Fresh Foam X Hierro v7 for cushiness on feet?
@robertarmero6320 2 жыл бұрын
Bought my first speedgoats for the first time not long ago and they have become my all time favorite running shoe. I use them on all surfaces (even concrete tho I try to stay on the dirt even if it’s paved) and they are just sooooo good. Feels like the one shoe to do it all. I can’t wait for the 5 to come out I will be finger on the trigger for those.
@jshov36 2 жыл бұрын
SG5 vs EVO seems pointless because the EVO is discontinued, but SG5 vs Ultra Glide would be greatly appreciated.
@aruna394 2 жыл бұрын
why was the EVO discontinued? :(
@justrione 2 жыл бұрын
Love it all. Thank you Sir
@bikeinmotion 2 жыл бұрын
EVO vs SG5 - OF COURSE WE NEED THAT :)
@greenmountainrunner9273 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! Been waiting patiently since I returned the evo’s still kicking myself!
@justdobetter8 2 жыл бұрын
Speedgoat 4 is my all time favorite shoe. 800+ miles on the first pair I purchased. I hope to get the 5’s day 1! Great review as always Seth!
@ludovicpiejos4379 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I train with my Rincon and Clifton currently and been debating about doing my first 50k race. This video is kind of motivating. Great video.
@watchingeye5435 Жыл бұрын
Good report with great competence
@runningwithdr.andrewdpt9177 2 жыл бұрын
Great Review!! I’m currently running in the ultra glides. I will have to consider this shoe.
@keithkilgorejr5100 2 жыл бұрын
QOD: yeeeeaaaahhhh booooyyyy. I been waiting on these for HELLA long. Shout out to all my Pisces out there. These are coming out around my birthday and best believe I will be grabbing 2 of these!!
@dazdarren9926 2 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely want a EVo vs SG 5 in depth comparison video
@rickellery6696 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth - thanks for continuing to provide the best running shoe reviews on the Internet! One detail that'd be valuable to include (maybe on the Quick Specs summary?!) is the country of origin. This is important for many of us in our purchasing decisions, only buying products made in countries with fair labour practices and ethical sourcing. Keep up the great content!
@joonlee920 2 жыл бұрын
China
@grantwallace1882 2 жыл бұрын
So pleased with my Speedgoat 4s
@bradpullen9557 2 жыл бұрын
the Speedgoat 4 is incredible and WANTS to be off-road. I have used it as a commuter shoe from pavement to trails before and feels good on pavement. BUT as soon as I hit the trail, the shoe turns into a monster. Perfect grip, perfect support and cushion.
@kevingoza 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth! Just got mine from HOKA today! Blue colorway. My, my, MY!!
@58lp2002 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! As a huge fan of the now extinct Hoka Evo Speedgoat I am waiting for this one. I hike not run (due to age, and muscular skeletal issues) in these shoes and it is also great for folks like me. Would also love a review for the new Altra Mont Blanc.
@SethJamesDeMoor 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, stay tuned!
@kentm7731 2 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that it’s progressing lighter than the 4. I’ve never had a problem with the weight of the Speedgoat 3 or the Speedgoat 4, so any weight reduction is just pure bonus. Never had issues with pavement to trail transition with the outsole. The longevity prediction is definitely conservative, my Speedgoat 3 was retired from running at 875 km and continued as a hiking shoe until the lugs wore down to 1123km. Currently my 4s have 339 kms of running. My favourite trail shoe continues to impress!
@hustle3011 2 жыл бұрын
How is the fit on the 4? True to size?
@kentm7731 2 жыл бұрын
@@hustle3011 yes, true to size. The Speedgoat 3 was more snug. So the 4 has a wider toe-box. I am assuming the 5 would be in between.
@gordonwright996 2 жыл бұрын
Quick note to all the SG fans out there: it will be available in wide sizing
@slavasss2189 2 жыл бұрын
But still its tapered toebox, not footshape(
@SuperNagz 2 жыл бұрын
@@slavasss2189 which is exactly why I’m waiting for the altra lone peak 6 wide
@thegoods9317 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know when the wides will be released? My SG4 wides are falling apart.
@gordonwright996 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegoods9317 iirc that'd be right now
@trentonporter2933 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegoods9317 you may not need a wide with these. The SG4’s and Challengers were too narrow for me, but with the stretchy vamp and stretchier upper the SG5’s actually fit me really well
@Sanchezruns 2 жыл бұрын
1000% we need that battle!
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the Hyperion Tempo on the TM while watching this and it has a great butterfly style tongue too. Re: SG5, I borrowed v4 doing some mountain trails in Baja recently but it was too spongy for me. I prefer the Peregrines, which I purchased. I like a little ground feel and do very little true technical trail running. Using them on snowy trails at the moment, where the grip is outstanding. Martha
@bjrnarfrantzenexp8972 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my pair. I AM EXCITE
@_FM_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you so much for all the reviews you do; they're great. I was wondering if you could give me your impression of how these compare to the Rincon 3 in terms of fit. Especially with regards to the pinky area ;-) Thanks and keep up the great work!
@marrunslow3815 2 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes… foot battle please. Can’t wait to get a pair of these bad boys! LOVE my evo speedgoats too
@jacobrocks7 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet shoe. Pretty sure it will sell out. Still on waiting list for my Mach 4 in Citroen color ..thanks
@traildawg4242 2 жыл бұрын
Yes comparison vid please!
@ericwhite80five 2 жыл бұрын
QOD: I could go on with this list,but I’ll just keep it to my all time favorite combo since I was a kid and say the feast would be a simple selection of Pizza and Wings!!! Wash it all down with a frosty beverage of course 🤘🏻👍🏻
@CSLee-yu6ht 2 жыл бұрын
Released in the U.S. last night at midnight, I ordered a pair of outer space/bluing and got a notice they were shipped and will be here Tuesday… You were right sizes 8.5-11.5 in blue coral/evening primrose are already sold out and sizes 8.5 and 10 in outer space/bluing are back ordered until may 31 just in 24 hours after going on sale… Wow, glad I happened to look at the website at 12:02 am last night lol…. 🎅🏻🏴☠️🏔
@RNeden 2 жыл бұрын
Excited about this one! Maybe a battle between SG5, UltraGlide and Fujilite could be cool.
@codyrobinson5130 2 жыл бұрын
SG5 vs Evo , of course. Also. Gonna be that guy and point out when gave the outsole a rating, you typed out the "hoka mafate speed 3" regardless. Thanks for the review , and taking time from the marathon training block. Another great speedgoat iteration! Cheers Seth.
@lovethyANGELS 2 жыл бұрын
There is not going to be an evo this year
@codyrobinson5130 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovethyANGELS didn't think there would be, just asked for a sg5 vs Evo comparison. he asked if he should make the comparison video, in the video.
@tazpengra 2 жыл бұрын
It's a Hoka, "if you have a wide foot the toebox may not work for you" is an understatement! If you have a normal foot, the toebox may not work for you!
@projectdaily4032 2 жыл бұрын
I love the evo and since they will be discontinuing them,I’m going to try out the new altra Mont Blanc. Looks amazing and the reviews are looking good.
@darightcoast1912 2 жыл бұрын
💯 we need the running shoe battle.
@19Kamau79 2 жыл бұрын
QD: Githeri is my vegetarian dinner and beef&spinach with ugali is my freedom of choice ☺ I don't know about rockies but I'm using Speedgoat3 at relatively soft trails and after +800miles see them still going strong.
@danieldarby5170 2 жыл бұрын
Truly beholden to no one; Hoka shoe review with Innov hat and Salomon shirt!
@adamkennedy6511 2 жыл бұрын
QD: I am a pretty simple guy and just love Mexican food. Give me some grilled chicken and grilled vegetables with some tortillas, tortilla chips, salsa, and guacamole and I am a happy man! Also, so excited about the speed go 5 and can't wait to pick up a pair or two. Rather than an EVO comparison, I'd rather see an ultra glide comparison or something similar since there is really no way to pick up an Evo at this point. The ultra glide was too soft for me in the Rocky technical trails of Arizona, but the speedgoat has been my go-to along with the peregrine lineup due to the Rock plate.
@patrickc7761 2 жыл бұрын
QD: corned beef, Brussels sprouts, candy, breakfast cereal and ice cream 😝 Love the EVOs, if they ever wear out with my minimal trail use I’ll probably go for the SG5’s. I just use the EVOs for everything, racing-training whatever.
@pling2228 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review! What mountain trail is that at 07:32? Reminds me of trails on Mt Rainier. Also, I wear a size 10 in the Torrents 2 but had to get 10 wide in SG4. Will that be the same with SG5’s, getting the wide shoe?
@kaicollingwood4582 2 жыл бұрын
I think Walmsley raced in the Evo Speedgoat still but he was running in South Africa a lot in the Speedgoat 5 prior to race day.
@JoshL84 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using my SG4 in all of these wintry mixes.
@jacobmeyer4612 2 жыл бұрын
Would love a SG5 vs EVO also maybe even more important SG5 vs UltraGlide
@6944firefightergr 2 жыл бұрын
Speedgoats are great too for up to marathons for mid-packers or heavy runners
@SibKalsbeek 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth! Wondering if you could put together a vlog about shoes great for training on the roads but in these icy conditions like Colorado & where I live Alberta. Nice to know a soft midsole shoe with good grip
@michaelalbrecht3395 Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t going to get a pair because of all the hatred I had the the speed goat 4 so I rolled the dice and got the 5 and went a half size up and I’m really enjoying the 5 👍👍
@ryanpowers6354 2 жыл бұрын
100% need the battle!
@Ecologyontherun 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that video! SG5 vs Evo please
@Vonblargen 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who's put in close to 3000 miles across 8 pairs of the EVO, I find myself cautiously excited by the Speedgoat 5. I've been in the market for a replacement shoe ever since I found out the EVO was discontinued, and I LOVE the Ultra Glide, but something about the EVO just makes it disappear on my foot and it becomes an extension of my body. Haven't found that with any other shoe, and I'm hoping I'll find that with the 5. I'll probably pick up 3 or 4 pairs when it drops so I can be sure to stock up for my spring/summer 100 milers.
@SMKHEMI 2 жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same 100% but im not going to buy the 5. My prediction is that the 5 will not hold a candle to the Evo and I will be disappointed. I'm considering switching to The North Face as they have a shoe that seems like it would give you a feeling like the Evo. Hoka in my opinion made big mistake and should bring back the Evo. Then I would buy several pairs.
@emfritz82 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. I’d love to see the SG5 vs EVO. I tried the SG4 but HATED the tongue… it drew blood after just 8 miles. Looks like the 5 is better but I’d love to know if it’s more padded.
@KUPPJERK1 2 жыл бұрын
@@SMKHEMI -I have tried them both and the SG5 is much more like the EVO SG👍
@SMKHEMI 2 жыл бұрын
@@KUPPJERK1 that's good to know. Maybe I will purchase one pair of SG5 to try them. Hoka has good return policy.
@ericberg922 2 жыл бұрын
i live in the concrete jungles of michigan and my speedgoats are really good for trudging through snow, considering we don’t have much trail running here.
@stefanvanderwesthuizen7021 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, looks like Jim wore the EVO at UTCT. Hi from South Africa btw🤙🏻
@ChirsRichardson10 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, do the shoe battle.
@ckokomo808 2 жыл бұрын
Been a subscriber for a while. Took a break from running stuff so been gone the past few months…missed the most recent training saga so will have some catching up to do! But I’m back! Doing some research for my next shoe. Been running in the SG4 so learning about the 5. Had some issues with the narrow toe box rubbing and giving blisters on my left baby toe. Ended up cutting the shoe during my ultra for some pressure relief. People seem to be confused on the scoring system. I wonder if it had to do with how we generally score things today. Most places ask for a 5 star rating (equivalent to a 10 point in your system). 5 stars means everything went well and you had a great experience. Statistically speaking, most things should never get a 5 star. Most things are average, or equivalent to a 2.5 star rating (or 5star in a 10 point scale, or a 7 point in yours- as you’ve admitted it’s skewed up a bit in your case). Scoring this shoe as slightly above a 7 means it’s better than average. Giving something a 9 or a 10 would mean the shoe is equivalent to Hermes flying sandals 😂. Maybe your scoring systems could have some labels attached for clarification? I imagine it’s difficult to develop this system, but I’ve seen consistency in your scoring system over the past few months, so congrats on that. Just sharing my thoughts! Thanks as always for the review and sharing your wisdom with us.
@Matthew-wg3qx 2 жыл бұрын
What raceing shoe would you recommend for a road half marathon with a goal pace of 5:50 to 6:00 per mile
@aaronwp 2 жыл бұрын
Any info on whether these will be available in wide width? The toebox is a significant concern for me. Currently in the Speedgoat 4, wide width, and it is perfect!
@romeoiipunzalan1079 2 жыл бұрын
That heel flair is a concern for me, it could possibly let debris in... if you use a gaiter hows that gonna be?
@chrisadams3280 2 жыл бұрын
As far as when these are actually coming, they have given us estimates at the store I work at but they have canceled them off all our future orders till April or May. Production is way down on all shoes because of supply chain issues and Vietnam factories not operating anywhere near 100%.
@PABEU 2 жыл бұрын
SG5 vs SG Evo, Yes, Please!
@S.F.Martin100 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, what is the Hoka road equivalent to the SG4/5? The SG4 is my go to trail shoe and want to get that fit to do more road.
@GotDamBoi 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been a New Balance and Asics dude but I am tempted to grab a pair of Hokas for my next road or trail shoe
@thebigtoboggin6982 2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming NB rebel v2, but what do you use for asics. Honestly, I probably like the Rebel's better than just about every road offering hoka has, aside from the mach or their more race oriented shoes. As far as trail goes, I am of the opinion that at this point hoka is the bar that all other company's are measuring up against. Just look down at people's feet next time you're on trail, half of the people you see out there are gonna be in hoka, whether it's speedgoats or torrent. If you're looking to dip your toes into another road shoe brand hokas are still worth a shot, but honestly I would check out saucony, big fan of how them and asics have progressed over the last year or two.
@pablochaconpanal4841 2 жыл бұрын
I know walmsley used texton X around Hardrock course while pacing François but not sure about south Africa . Loved the review 🥰
@pablochaconpanal4841 2 жыл бұрын
Tecton
@MattSwain1 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that what Seth mentions about the little toe side of the shoe is a bit of a Speedgoat trait - I have some of the Speedgoat walking boots that Hoka make (they’re just like the running shoe but cover the ankle too) and my only gripe is they start to rub the outside edge of both little toes on longer walks
@trainwellracewell 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like the Speedgoat 4 so I returned it to REI. It was just too clunky and stiff. Looking forward to hopefully trying this version which looks like a trail version of the Mach 4
@BonnersMonsters 2 жыл бұрын
Speedgoat 4 has been my main for the past year, the only things I wanted were a wider toe box and more heel to toe drop. I can not wait to get these on feet.
@SethJamesDeMoor 2 жыл бұрын
you won't be disappointed!
@denisp8396 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the SG4 have a wide version? I think I saw one on Running Warehouse
@BonnersMonsters 2 жыл бұрын
@@denisp8396 I'm not sure, that'd be awesome!
@thebigtoboggin6982 2 жыл бұрын
@@BonnersMonsters they definitely do. If you have an rei or even better a specialty running store they probably have wides available in store
@patrickvanderwal6324 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Been waiting for this one. Of course we want a EVO vs SG5 battle. Throw in the Ultraglide as well! 😉
@SethJamesDeMoor 2 жыл бұрын
stay tuned!
@lurker916 2 жыл бұрын
Seth.. Would you say the sizing is the same as the Speedgoat 4?
@roustabout4fun 2 жыл бұрын
I needed or at least Wanted that review....I think they are coming in a Wide size, I may do that as the 4's felt hot and confining for me..on one foots....I will buy and try 1 pair-been lovin Trabuco 9ers or is that now Trabuco Rams
@alexandrefarkas8197 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Seth! Big fan of the vlog for almost 2 years now. I sometimes feel a bit confused with your scoring system. Especially when you highly praise shoes, for example, for their comfort, and they only get an 8.25 or 8.5! Could you please give us examples of a 10 (or 9 and above) for each category of your scoring system? Take care Thanks for your positive energy! Love from Switzerland
@DAC_AMD Жыл бұрын
Hello! How would be Hoka SpeedGoat5 compared to LaSportiva Ultra Raptor and Akasha? Thanks.
@johanrr4 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video comparing these to the Fuji Lite 2's?
@povtv2344 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, SG evo vs SG5 please.
@ericchevalley 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Why is the overall score not be in the 8s with so many great scores and your enthusiasm for this shoe?
@shanemason743 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw the Mach Supersonic coming soon!! Thoughts?
@tammyschilling5362 2 жыл бұрын
How about a comparison with the Torrent 2? Also, it seems to me very similar to the Brooks Caldera shoe.
@dougmoore7424 2 жыл бұрын
QD: Alaskan King Crab in all its butter and glory!
@Tylerhas_theruns 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been racing in the Hoka Mafate Evos from a few years ago. How similar in feel/performance are the SG4’s compared to the Mafate Evo?
@beachrunner428 2 жыл бұрын
Off Topic I see the Broncos are for sale. 1. Will you be purchasing them? And 2 will you change the name from the Broncos to the ButterBreads?
@philosoninja 2 жыл бұрын
QD: Piles of boiled crawfish….oooh man! Seth, you ever had boiled crawfish? Have the EVO. I have to say, I’ve been a little stingy with the miles, using other shoes in my rotation. Only so I can keep them for as long as possible. I love them.
@colin3330 2 жыл бұрын
Would you consider this shoe for marathon length gravel road/well maintained trail races? I have some more complex rooted and rock trails in my area as well so I am looking for something in this area but not sure if you have a different one that you would recommend.
@Reaper006 2 жыл бұрын
That Pinky Toe compression is something I have experienced with all hoka shoes that i have worn and unfortunately makes it so I cant use them. My feet are not even wide but I guess the shape is very user-specific.
@cmcolangelo 2 жыл бұрын
Hoka Tecton X vs SG5 comparison please! Would you spend the extra money ($55) for Tecton X (Profly X midsole) over the SG5 (CMEVA midsole) especially when it is 1.16 oz. (33g) lighter?
@gbmpam8 2 жыл бұрын
Seth, why are you buying another pair of the Speedgoat 5 for summer if you already have one?
@Mikeandthedyslexicunicorns 2 жыл бұрын
Tecton X? Hoka is going to kick butt this year in the trail running shoe offering! Will say, I’m not keen on the little toe up against the side too much.
@addexvi 2 жыл бұрын
Does this one have the pronounced arch support and narrow midfoot the Evo does? I got really bad arch blisters from the evo unfortunately
@bradyalexander6229 2 жыл бұрын
So I need to know about the tongue. Maybe it’s my ankle, but the tongue on the 4’s really bothered me. To the point of actually cutting into skin when I made the mistake of wearing low-cut socks. Please tell me the tongue is cut different in the 5?!?!
@valentinionita6174 2 жыл бұрын
yes yes :)
@franksabel 2 жыл бұрын
Evo vs 5? Yes, please!
@StefanSager 2 жыл бұрын
No durometer-test for the midsole?
@robertnoland9156 2 жыл бұрын
Sirloin steak:medium rare, mash potatoes:no gravy, dark greens salad:no dressing, chocolate cake with chocolate ice cream.
@mareksawicki4953 2 жыл бұрын
So this is strange… I ordered two pairs of SG5, different colors. The green pair weighed in at 11.3oz while the blue pair was 12.0oz, both size 12, what gives?
@MattD86 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see a 7/10 for the midsole after you were raving about it! I believe you always say a 7.5 is considered a “standard score.” So a sub-standard midsole? Sounds like an awesome trail shoe
@over1498 2 жыл бұрын
I think the absolute maximum midsole score for Hoka is 7/10. Love Hokas but their foam has never been anything to write home about.
@MattD86 2 жыл бұрын
@@over1498 that’s fair!
@JB-hq9yj 2 жыл бұрын
Love Seth but he’s all over the place. I never take his review numbers too seriously and go more on his enthusiasm and words because he hasn’t seemed to figure out how to properly quantify what he likes yet consistently
@SethJamesDeMoor Жыл бұрын
durability of that EVA is lackluster unfortunately
@ianwarner1429 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Salomon rubber is softer and better for winter commutes. I've got over 350 miles on my Ultra Glides this winter. Great grip and soft.
@daggisito 2 жыл бұрын
I find the SUG too darn cold in the winter..
@aruna394 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why Hoka discontinued the EVO speedgoat?
@finstudent 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting to use a gift card at the running shop for something special like this since I missed the EV's! (If it fits!)
@DerekScheidt 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a biomechanical reason most trail shoes are lower drop than road shoes? I do primarily road running but have drastically upped my trail mileage over the last few years and I run exclusively in 8-10mm drop road shoes but the vast majority of trail shoes don’t seem to exceed 6mm drop with most in the 4-5 range. Just curious what the science behind that is if there is any.
@palmyarmyswim 2 жыл бұрын
Picked up two new pairs of evo's on sale! Limited sizes on hoka eu
@ruiseverino7609 Жыл бұрын
Any shoe coming out will be compared against the Evo Speedgoat...best running shoe ever made.
@SethJamesDeMoor Жыл бұрын
ASICS Fuji Lite 3
@apocreg11 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for this shoe, Wide fit version for me! Confused how that is t in the 8s easily 🤷🏻♂️
@pierreduzan6992 2 жыл бұрын
same Wide fit, I hope there will also be available
@justinflynn4787 2 жыл бұрын
We have to do something about this scoring system. I’m interested to see the comparison between Evo and 5 as the Evo is OP on trails. I think you should look at how you rate shoes. If this one is so great and will sell out so quickly, how could it not be in the 8s? I really think midsole should be a weighted score. Energy return in my opinion is most important. Just a thought 🤷
@ChitMaker 2 жыл бұрын
Love his shoe reviews but it really does feel like every shoe is in the 7s
@LifeInTheLongRun 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 Listen Seth
@danthack 2 жыл бұрын
100% running battle required between the 5 and EVO. EVO is my favourite shoe of all time and need a suitable replacement, is this it?!? 🤞
@jaymanrick 2 жыл бұрын
Woah! I've been waiting for this. I am torn between buying Speedcross 5 and Speedgoat 4. Thanks for vid, Seth! How's the grip to very muddy trails? Can it hold to those muddy trail that were walked over many times and has shiny/flat like consistency? And yes, please do a comparison between Evo Speedgoat and Speedgoat 5 please! 🎉♥️ QOTD: I would like to have grilled Salmon or roasted pig.
@SethJamesDeMoor 2 жыл бұрын
Grilled Salmon, yes! Solid in the mud, but not the best by any means, not a Speedcross bite.
@jaymanrick 2 жыл бұрын
@@SethJamesDeMoor Thanks Seth! I'll go with Speedcross 5 then. I've been following your channel since 2019. Keep up the hardwork and stay safe. 🥂🙏
@spirosrevis977 10 ай бұрын
hoka speed goat 5 or la sportiva akasha 2?
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