How Champions League teams figured Arsenal & Manchester City out
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Күн бұрынWelcome to The Athletic FC's KZfaq channel, where best-in-class journalism meets video.
Arsenal and Manchester City enter the second leg of the quarterfinals of the 2023-24 Champions League with all to play for.
Mikel Arteta's side drew 2-2 against Bayern Munich at home, while Pep Guardiola's men drew 3-3 in spectacular fashion against a surging Real Madrid.
What tactical lessons can we learn from the first leg games and how will the managers change their plans going into the second leg?
Joe Devine, JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie dig deep into the tactics and try to predict who will be crowned the Kings of Europe.
This is The Athletic's Week in Football.
#arsenal #championsleague #premierleague
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:55 Arsenal 2 - 2 Bayern
01:16 How Bayern changed their gameplan against Arsenal
06:54 Arsenal's Build-up Woes
08:43 Who will win the second leg?
10:46 Real Madrid 3 - 3 Man City
11:26 Real v City Tactical Comparison
14:52 Applied Tactics
16:29 Which team's tactics gave them the upper hand?
19:18 PSG 2 - 3 Barcelona
19:38 Pau Cubarsi has the Wau Factor
21:22 How do you stop Kylian Mbappe?
25:12 Barcelona's New Blood
28:13 Atletico 2 - 1 Dortmund
29:19 Who will win the Champions League?
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@hamidalbertoabudrussell9703 Ай бұрын
I missed this trio so much. Their tactical analysis is second to none in today’s pundit landscape, and they do so while being funny.
@gentleken7864 Ай бұрын
It's clear that The Athletic thought they were too silly and wanted only boring analysis. It's clear having someone like Adam Levanthal chairing the videos what they're after.
@viktoredv Ай бұрын
Just need it as a podcast...
@isahamilton01 Ай бұрын
The Jon Joe JJ trio is too powerful. Nothing else on youtube can match their abilities of football analysis. I’ve really been enjoying the new graphics, they’re all perfectly used and aren’t intrusive whatsoever. Kudos 👏
@chinortega3 Ай бұрын
The jjj
@manniking233 Ай бұрын
UCL gives us these guys for two consecutive weeks. Let's not take that privilege for granted. I miss these guys together but I'll take what I can get...
@tianruixiao9239 Ай бұрын
17:20 a rare laugh from Director Joe. I know we all love the tactical analysis but its the ridiculous questions that makes me love you guys.
@SWJ808 Ай бұрын
17:17 god I love Devine
@snake0sena Ай бұрын
“I wasn’t in France” “no but the players were” 😂😂
@Audiostyleable Ай бұрын
As the everyman I would like to highlight that the videos from the athletic are 10x better with Joe devine
@leothecat9609 Ай бұрын
MORE OF THIS
@Vociferous Ай бұрын
“How will managers change their plans going into the second leg” A plan that wasn’t was the fact that there wasn’t much defending happening for any tie, you cannot sit deep and invite oppositional pressure in the away leg, whilst not comfortably being in a position.
@Kaysfrancis Ай бұрын
You guys are incredible. I can listen to you all day
@jg7088 Ай бұрын
It tells us that one manager is bald
@drex5160 Ай бұрын
But which one tho? 🤔
@winter_silhouette Ай бұрын
Pep is just taller than his hair.
@ChadYu Ай бұрын
Perhaps we can infer that bald men are cute? 🤔
@robinthebobin6537 Ай бұрын
Pep's bald cap just hasn't broken yet. One day there'll be a strong gust of wind and it'll be revealed that he actually has long ginger hair (probably)
@clivepalmer3545 Ай бұрын
Quality Arsenal assessment. I would mid block Bayern next time and jump on occasion Give them no transition - their keeper is too good in buildup
@YomsterFUT13 Ай бұрын
EXACTLY i think we olay how we did vs City but more attacking and in a more expressive nature plus we'll have martinelli as an outlet. Bayern were great but feel we played into their hands so this time being away the onus will be on them. Plus this season i feel were a better team when we need to play for a draw and lock in defensively with saliba, gabriel and rice @6 (which is where he should be 2nd leg) and then keep a clean sheet first and then go try score. Arteta taking a leaf from his FA Cup Winning defensive run days and also a tad bit Simeone inspired. Tuchel got arteta first leg imo but 2nd i feeel like Mikel finally gets his statement win on the european stage. AC Milan '08 Stuff 🤞🏾🤞🏾
@debagniksen7809 Ай бұрын
Joe's voice is music in the ears
@mikaelvaldezco3983 Ай бұрын
just glad that Joe is back
@malevellysian Ай бұрын
jj's promo at the end instead of joe sounds like a drunk homeless person snuck himself into the studio:/
@Sincerely.Eben. Ай бұрын
These guys are just the best at talking about Football ⚽
@barca-vibe Ай бұрын
This tifo irl crew needs to do more barca content… only sensible analyst in the athletic
@emmanuelonyono4517 Ай бұрын
Great analysis bros for giving us deep understanding of the games.
@tomdadude444 Ай бұрын
This lot would make an engaging podcast
@aka_jr Ай бұрын
For the culture, I need an Arsenal - Barcelona UCL final
@Montyweb Ай бұрын
That would be epic
@doodah111 Ай бұрын
To avenge the injustice of 2006
@theo-go3br Ай бұрын
How poetic would it be to beat Porto (a good historical matchup for Arsenal), Bayern (a terrible historical matchup for Arsenal), Real (the literal greatest UCL club OAT), or City (their modern archnemesis and title holders), and finally Barcelona (for obvious reasons).
@jakubcygan8265 Ай бұрын
I'd bet my house on Arsenal in that game, but I won't bet it on them getting to the final
@marsx5886 Ай бұрын
Welp
@zachmartin5647 Ай бұрын
Awesome editing. It made it super engaging
@deenofm3620 Ай бұрын
This content is absolutely brilliant guys! Please keep this up and make it as often as physically possible… Seriously I cannot get enough of your guys analysis. So thorough, so well done, please like this video and share it so that it is financially feasible for these guys to pump this content out!
@dshannon565 27 күн бұрын
Bayern sitting back against arsenal is more reflective of bayerns form this season. If Bayern were running away with the league and were consistent I think they would’ve imposed their game on arsenal. Bayerns team is better than arsenal man for man in my opinion so they should look to impose themselves on arsenal. Arsenal are a very beatable side. On Barca I’d love to see a video on gavi on why he so good. I personally don’t rate him that highly. He doesn’t score, assists, play key passes, dictate the game or dribble so he’s not effective going forward even though he plays high up the pitch. Yes he presses well but once he gets the ball he needs to be effective.
@exgonzo64 Ай бұрын
loving this new format
@cameronjones8641 Ай бұрын
You guys are the best 👌🏼
@fis9836 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤ great vid ;D
@flickchic238 Ай бұрын
These analyses are so great. I've learned so much about each team's tactics that can go unnoticed when watching their games in real-time. To be honest, I don't think Real Madrid's tactics are strong enough to defeat Man City. Madrid can score goals but when it comes to structure, I think City would have the advantage.
@jarretc110 Ай бұрын
i'm so glad the athletic are here to tell me what to think.
@dannysnooze 20 күн бұрын
can someone tell me what pad they are using and what app they are using to run the tactics board and analytics on games?
@thomasdavies2555 Ай бұрын
Love hearing yall talk…hi from Santa Barbara
@StephenIbegbu-qj7gh Ай бұрын
But Enrique didn’t even help Mbappe He put him out wide when he’s meant to be in the Mbappe zone with Nuno Mendes out wide This is the same problem Arsenal are having with Martinelli These run in behind goal getters like Rashford, Mbappe, Son and Martinelli have no reason to be held out wide They’ll be limited in the game
@athreyathandeswaran7510 Ай бұрын
Pedri, Gavi, Cubarsi, Yamal, Balde, Fort, Faye, Guille, Roque
@anshumansahu1087 Ай бұрын
Foden, Rico Lewis, Claudio Echeverri, Oscar Bobb, Gvardiol, Doku, McAtee, Savinho, Yan Couto, Julian Alvarez, Haaland. With one of Wirtz/Musiala possibly inbound, the future is indeed very interesting.
@athreyathandeswaran7510 Ай бұрын
@@anshumansahu1087Finley Gorman as well. Olise can join City. You also have Perrone. Neves can join City.
@anshumansahu1087 Ай бұрын
@@athreyathandeswaran7510 Yes. Man City are seriously scouting Ruben Neves. Finley Gorman is a gem City brought from leeds recently.
@bread3017 Ай бұрын
@@anshumansahu1087 Very unlikely Wirtz or Musiala will join
@ChimwaniJohn Ай бұрын
Who are these guys
@Pipemurillo12 Ай бұрын
More Tifo hosts in the podcast please, love these guys beyond belief. I always thought the Athletic has sub-utilized their charisma into their business strategy
@sami3648 29 күн бұрын
This is the football podcast dream team
@AmarRanaDeshmukh Ай бұрын
More of these please
@siddharthsehgal620 Ай бұрын
such a great video
@andytupman9874 Ай бұрын
love John's final point of that arsenal would lose to city in the next round even though they have played each other 3 times this year with arsenal winning 2 of them and the other being a 0-0 draw
@pozsoz Ай бұрын
The quadruple J combo strikes again. I love you guys. Thanks
@kevinonyedikachukwu564 Ай бұрын
Great analysis
@sjeskey8361 Ай бұрын
Man i wonder if these 3 would work well in some sort of podcast format???
@buzzjens1 Ай бұрын
These three men are the best football analysts itw
@lyndonroper6013 Ай бұрын
Jon's Central Cordoba sweat is rad
@jbri1 Ай бұрын
@michaelfincham7306 Ай бұрын
I believe they call it 'probing'.
@willyum3920 Ай бұрын
I really get the feeling JJ is in mourning for what he's lost from the old days. I absolutely love him but I want them back and let off the leash to sing songs about a frog who could kill a man and redesign the super league. .... ok I might be projecting but that is what I see in JJ. Love you man 👍
@Untold-Football Ай бұрын
John didn’t want that Arsenal fan angst 😂, finally you guys trusting the process 👌🏾
@gabrielguerrero3404 28 күн бұрын
Try telling pep that. He’s the most stubborn manager in the world. After watching man city this whole season I can say that if a 500 minute match existed with unlimited substitutions and man city conceded in the 1st min without being able to score until the 499th minute pep wouldn’t change a thing over that much time(talking about style of play not substitutions )
@josephashipala6249 Ай бұрын
I think Man city did well against Madrid cause u can see at the end of the game that Madrid where scard
@MrElias2002 29 күн бұрын
These guys are much better than the so called pundits on Sky, ESPN and CNBC.
@vishalchatterjee7510 26 күн бұрын
Funny how both John and JJ took arsenal qualifying for granted.
@pranaychaturvedi7311 29 күн бұрын
Jon, JJ, Joe partnership is like prime Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo
@MrOMGWTFROFL1 Ай бұрын
Oh baby, TIFO is back
@andrewquick1609 Ай бұрын
Bloody fantastic you trio of jackanapes
@sewaeric Ай бұрын
But u stopped making game tactical analysis on tifo
@theach84 Ай бұрын
8:45 Too many Arsenal fans exaggerate the defensive “problem” of Zinchenko while completely dismissing how he makes our whole team better. He literally does not give away that many goals. He makes the first second phase of our buildup much better. Arteta knows better and keeps trusting him.
@robinthebobin6537 Ай бұрын
Agreed, after seeing how Arteta's revitalised our club over the last few years, I'm inclined to believe he probably knows what he's doing.
@MrYisus217 Ай бұрын
he forgot that he was defending against aston villa, bailey's goal
@theromalepe8600 29 күн бұрын
The Man City prediction has aged poorly already 😂
@DanielS10291 Ай бұрын
Omg is this the podcast back?
@grid462 29 күн бұрын
I think I recall John Stones basically being hailed as the MVP for City last season. How devastating have his absences been this season? Or has he no longer been as critical to the team?
@shottskies Ай бұрын
It will be a miracle if Madrid beat city in a few hours I feel… hurts me to say though
@wdred Ай бұрын
So JJ is kinda saying that Real, particularly on the left side were using relationism?
@arfung9871 Ай бұрын
Best trio
@beerd__af Ай бұрын
The removal of the away goals rule makes both of the first leg games almost pointless. means the 2nd leg starts at 0-0
@jamesleiper6399 Ай бұрын
Whilst both games were on I and probably John were watching Leeds draw nil nil
@DavidLimofLimReport Ай бұрын
What's with these Sat morning releases?
@chrishoward8500 Ай бұрын
Drawing in Madrid is being figured out? Guess City were figured out last year too
@allantoxic-101k Ай бұрын
The only problem about Arsenal vs Bayern previous game ,is that Arteta forgot that Bayern winger can run faster than kiwior..Arsenal can win in Munich 2-1
@Dmaj089 29 күн бұрын
Can they? 😂
@abukhalidali1823 Ай бұрын
Let's see
@IggyGoesPop666 Ай бұрын
The Athletic guys ... can you do a show about the Mickey Mouse David Moyes defeatist so called tactics???
@maulanna Ай бұрын
JONNN MCKENZIE!!!!
@benharmon7369 Ай бұрын
PEDRI! PEDRI! PEDRI! PEDRI!
@chrisgarty Ай бұрын
@13:55 Joe really trying to derail JJ with all the comments about probing and penetration 😆
@FlashMeterRed Ай бұрын
No. Champions league teams have Champions league-level attacks
@1972adamw 29 күн бұрын
How delicious would it be...if PSG and Real Madrid meet in the Finals?
@alfflasymphonyx Ай бұрын
In regards to MBAPPE, the M is silent so pronounce it BAPPE. 😇
@himdamnself Ай бұрын
Latest homegrown players. And someone had to mention Harry Kane.
@snoopos Ай бұрын
Do they do this analysis on other teams? Proper giving other teams' analysts on how to beat Arsenal 😅
@koutanot Ай бұрын
Bayern can barely cope with arsenal in second half. Not sure what u mean
@garyanderton 19 күн бұрын
Sup ma guy
@arunnm24 Ай бұрын
Joe fighting the good fight to keep the goofiness alive
@weeds56 Ай бұрын
Brill
@bhvithai5327 Ай бұрын
I can only imagine that if Grealish were a UAP, he would both probe and penetrate.
@jbri1 Ай бұрын
Is that Doe Jevine?
@medelalmi Ай бұрын
19:00 so i'm an analyst then ? thanks
@matthewherbert9926 Ай бұрын
Life was better when people were trapped in scattergrams
@Al-Brewster 29 күн бұрын
Spoiler alert for the second leg
@shadowside8433 Ай бұрын
The chess game continues...
@ibrahimadat 19 күн бұрын
Gosh I really get frustrated by Jon mckinzies analysis, it’s classic example of arrogance of someone that understands a small aspect of something (tactics) but regularly misses the larger point. He’s so obsessed by in possession control that he thinks for some reason it’s superior, when it’s not. The best champions league teams never play like that, with two notable exceptions, Barcelona with messi and city last year which wasn’t even traditional in possession control. The reason it’s so successful in a league format is because it maintains possession against teams of considerably lower quality, reducing them to a few high quality chances rather than sustained attacks. At the business end of the champions league against the best teams it’s quite clearly suboptimal and actually makes the teams a bit toothless
@kingkenzokwansa Ай бұрын
6:40 if you're going to name drop the culprits for the goal why not mention your countryman Rice as well? He has been awful since coming back from the international break with England
@gravy3858 Ай бұрын
For a random American: do you think JJ Bull would be hard to understand? His accent doesn’t seem TOO strong to me.
@callmedo Ай бұрын
No, he is not hard to understand. But I can understand Carragher with no problem also so maybe it's just me haha
@R.Mousasi Ай бұрын
Im not a native speaker and can follow him easy. So for an American should be easy
@ChriSX13 Ай бұрын
i was today years old when i learned that you cannot be offside in your own half
@lukew6725 Ай бұрын
Just wait until you find out that you can't score an own goal from a free kick. 😆
@lowersaxon Ай бұрын
Kluba Inglada a desappontionada alla matckas futballa Europea! Arsenala 2:2 a nixa sufficantionada. Chancka minimalia a stadione Allianza inda Municha. Leverpola a una katastropa extravaganza alla historia kluba. Nixa chancka alla secondo lego! Sola Manchesteria City a una gutska chancka forn secondo lego recka semifinalia! Takse mycke. Thank you much. Vielen Dank.
@jbri1 Ай бұрын
Unbelievable, Joe and Jon using long words like deferential
@danielseddon5213 Ай бұрын
I'm all for infographics, but this is too busy on-screen to watch and enjoy. For me at least. Felt like watching guardiola's recent press conferences with the moving billboards behind him.
@danielseddon5213 Ай бұрын
P.s. loved the analysis though
@xykostorm Ай бұрын
Agreed. Over edited - still good- but too much
@donukb Ай бұрын
Yeah, that's fair. This will be improved on for next week. Thanks for your input and thanks for watching!
@liamness Ай бұрын
But without these graphics, how will people who don't know what the word "deferential" means follow along with the discussion?
@Cbb3225 Ай бұрын
As a casual fan, I appreciated the insight into tactics I hear often but don’t really know like pressing styles
@dookula Ай бұрын
Martin Erdagore
@samwalker8821 Ай бұрын
❤
@levikonel3232 Ай бұрын
First today
@athreyathandeswaran7510 Ай бұрын
Bayern, City, Atleti and PSG thru imo PSG winning the whole thing. Kane bottling in the final.
@liesideways Ай бұрын
Zero ball knowledge
@lukew6725 Ай бұрын
Lmao, PSG in the ucl is more likely to bottle than Kane. 😂
@cescabhi Ай бұрын
LOL the disrespect to dortmund, barely spoken about for 2 minutes
@Epsilon04 Ай бұрын
Never deserve any respect ever again after how they threw the title away last season. Pathetic club.
@Ruony24 Ай бұрын
What's a Dune Too, guys ?
@thisricardopalma Ай бұрын
Answer: by scoring more goals than your opponent. 😂😂
@wycliffenyangate5018 Ай бұрын
a PROBE and a PENETRATION.
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