I go over to Germany and watch more games there than I do Premier League games. I see Germany as the pinnacle of fan experience, and its sad to hear that could soon change. Stay strong guys, you're a beacon to the rest of us. There's nothing better than going to a German game. Class fans, decent people, and great football.

Imagine if Dortmund, Leverkusen and Schalke kept many of their stars they've sold.

As an American, this is why I primarily watch the Bundesliga. Our sports here, especially the NFL and NBA, are incredibly overproduced, anti competition, exploit taxpayers, anti fans, etc. The Bundesliga should not try to be like the Premier League, because its culturally trying to be like the NFL (they even tried to implement an enclosed system last week). EPL fans can't even stand or bring beer to their seats! I love the "realness" or "grassroots" feeling of the Bundesliga, its incredibly foreign to us in the U.S. 50+1 is a long term system, where as the EPL thinks short term. Do you really want Saudi Arabia to Buy Schalke? A Russian Oligarch running Hamburg? You need to consider what kind of person buys football clubs... they're not the best human beings. Think of all this clubs stripped of their culture or even their livelihood. Cardiff, Wimbledon, West Ham, etc are better examples than Manchester City. The german system preserves, while the UK and American systems destroy. Don't let money run your culture, you will end up with a fascist bankrupt gameshow host as your leader.

"Das gute darf nicht der Feind des besseren sein." Das nenn ich mal nen schlauen Satz

But even Bayern is one of the last Big Clubs wich got build up by itself and not by any investors

The Problem are clubs like PSG and Man City

As a long time Bayern Munich fan I'm totally for an equal split of the tv money.

The reality: Bayern Munich are the only "destination" club for star players in the Bundesliga. All other German clubs are star '"feeders" to the elite clubs in England, Spain, Italy and now PSG. It is hard for an 'international-neutral' fan to learn to love a club that keeps selling their new star players. The only real solution: German clubs MUST be able to retain their 'home-grown' star players and become destination clubs, themselves. How to do this without destroying the soul of a club by corporate domination, though? Could television money be awarded to clubs that RAISE, CULTIVATE and RETAIN talented players that sustain interest in the league, rather than by table position?

As an American, and huge fan of the Bundesliga. I hope for change and continued success. From what I’ve heard from those that have been lucky enough to attend a match. The fan experience is awesome.

Cool video. I would love to see the Bundesliga stop comparing itself to other leagues and worry about its own health. If Bayern were as dominant in the world as they are in Germany, you might support the system for producing great football, but a more competitive league should produce more teams who can compete in Germany AND Europe

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I don't think a topic as complex as this one could have been summed up better than it was in this video - and that's really hard to achieve. Your documentaries are really impressive.

Great vid great music too. Love a bit of Swifta Beata😎 I think that as long as there is copius amounts of money to be won clubs will gamble more and more money to try to get to the top.

We think the same about french football too ... especially with our TV rights problems lol 😅

Put the names of the instrumentals/background music. I know one is by Headie One. Great content by the way

the pun on Leipzig was awesome :D

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Very interesting and insightful

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Honestly a salary cap would be the best thing for football this way every team has the capacity to have a good squad and more thought has to go into building a squad instead of just buying everyone like Bayern do. The NBA do it successfully

Niall Quinn was on Irish TV recently after Dundalk played Arsenal in the Europa League saying how he hoped there would be people looking to invest into Irish football so that clubs can be in European competition regularly. The issue is that what he is thinking about would mean it would be a case of the same two teams (Dundalk and Shamrock Rovers) qualifiying while all other clubs would become feeders to them and there would be no competition left. Of course Irish football fans want our clubs to be on the European stage, but I dont want it at the expense of a possibly competitive and entertaining league.

Equal TV money and close the gap with prize money, do it slowly overtime with a time frame to hit targets to not put too much pressure on over leverged teams. The bigger teams will still make more money from sponsership and merchandise but this will close the competition up big time on the low end. A closer competition will interest more people and in turn get more people to watch, which will increase the league as a whole.

I love the Bundesliga.. my favorite league. I don't pay attention to Bayern much tho. I support Schalke and Werder Bremen. From the USA tho

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Bayern Munich themselves won the DFL cup in their first year in the Bundesliga after being promoted, that's the kind of situation we need

11:50 "No general penalty, pecuniary or otherwise, shall be inflicted upon the population on account of the acts of individuals for which they cannot be regarded as jointly and severally responsible." Did the Bundesliga commit a war crime?

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The problem I see is the lack of foreign TV deals money in the BuLi. The way to get better deals it to get more eyes globally and that comes through success in Europe. Cutting money from the big boys makes them weaker, as is teams like Leverkusen, Gladbach, Schalke can't hold on to their best players. If they were to be able to then BuLi becomes the best league in the world in every aspect. More money comes in and its then you go for a fairer distribution. The first step has to be get Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen, Leipzig, Gladbach, Hoffenheim, Schalke as strong as possible. Get the massive TV deals. Then whole sale changes should be made to the system. Changes to the system just to bring the big boys down financially hurts the league more than it does it good. Or. Perhaps, Super league is the best possible outcome for all. The Bayerns Dortmunds, Leipzigs leave the BuLi and then every club left can make the changes they want.

I believe The Premier League has a pretty good revenue sharing system and they use that to their advantage by selling the league abroad as the one where "anyone can beat anyone". There are definitely a lot of things in the Premier League that I wouldn't want to see replicated in The Bundesliga (Manchester City makes RB Liepzig look like a model of fair play) but revenue sharing is one thing that could be learned from the PL. Even if it may hurt bigger clubs initially, in the end having a healthy competition would boost everyone. Consider that Bayern just won the Champions League. You would think that that would have had a very positive effect on The Bundesliga because it could now advertise itself as the League with the best team in the world; instead that only seems to have hurt interest in the Bundesliga because it just reinforced the notion that no other Bundesliga team can compete with them.

TV rights money is much fair in Bundesliga than in any other leagues. The fact that Bayern gets 90mil more than the lowest is misleading. It's not true, especially in Germany 🇩🇪

If I'm being fair, seems like now is the right time to start making a change, rather than this change arriving a long time ago. I get the Bundesliga doesn't want to be EPL. But if they could reach those levels and then still have the personnel to balance it out. You get the best of both worlds. Your league is now extremely rich and spectated by tons of outside crowds, and you still keep the culture intact

Why can't at least the top 5 of the Bundesliga structure like Bayern, getting big companies to buy shares but not enough to dictate the direction of the club but give them the financial power to purchase or keep their great players...

Bundesliga has many teams with quality players to outperform Dortmund. They just need better coaches, Bayern vs Hoffenheim is an example of what good coaches can do with smaller clubs. Our Football is being delusional and needs to identify the real problems which are not always related to money, especially in the Bundesliga. Schalke has been getting tons of kit sponsorship money for years, yet they are the worst on the pitch while Union Berlin has impressed in their debut season and rekindled the Berlin derby. It all comes down to coaching and club management.

I'd be interested to know how German clubs fare internationally when compared with English ones. With Premier League a MUCH more competitive league than Bundesliga, does their product "travel" better than Germany's? After all, Liverpool, Man City, and Chelsea have ALL been league champions in very recent years, while Man U has it's pedigree, Spurs are known to field extremely competitive sides (Champions League finalists two years ago), and Arsenal have their history (even if somewhat distant now). After Bayern and Dortmund, I wonder how well German clubs sell outside their borders and whether a MORE rather than a LESS competitive league isn't the REAL answer. On another note, why aren't Dortmund better-heeled, given the size of their fan base? They seem a seller's club like all the other, non-Bayern teams there.

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The suggestion in film seems to be "go local". And it's a bit inward-looking, no? Not sure how Bayern gonna take suggestion to change priorities and stop competing with EPL. It's understandable that Bayern as big club with great history of success want to compete with the best (and that best are now strapped with Saudi oil money). What does suggestion of changing priorities mean? Bayern even at this moment don't spend a lot of money in comparison to EPL and La Liga clubs. They even stopped raiding BL rivals (last time it was 2013 with Goetze and Lewandovski). Their bench is very cheap indeed. Bayern were always dominant in BL since their rise in 1970s. Many clubs challenged but then weren't able to sustain their presence for more than a decade. Bayern were able to establish themselves as big club in Europe before infamous Bosman rule that changed football forever (that is why we dont see Ajax anymore) and before big money started to influence game in bigger way (with Abramovic' takeover of Chelsea in 2000s). Dortmund, for example, weren't able to establish themselves as big club before drastic changes in 1990s so since then they are kinda in-between club. I feel like that going "more social league" way can lead to weakening of german football, in general. Of course, it can make it more fan-friendly, may be more competitive (in a sense of different winners of BL 3 times a season) but at the expense of becoming inward-looking league, closed off from rest of the world. So the only end result here is that Bayern will just go away from Bundesliga and join Super League. Everything points in that direction, unfortunately.

Give 3000pts for a win and 1000 points for a draw,then divide the number achieved by the club's wage bill,so ,if a club with a 250million Euro wage bill wins they get 12 points, if a team with a 50 million wage bill wins they get 60 points.

I wish Ghana's premier league could get to the level of the bundesliga

Anyone have the link to the petition

0:08 i know that guy hes a amigo that guy is crazy he supported turkgucu munih with drums 😂

I wonder if France feels the same because PSG have won the last 7 Ligue 1 titles only missing out in 2016/17 when Monaco won it

Perhaps an episode at how ridiculous football has become. Its like in every game there is a penalty being called. Whatever happened to punishing players for diving? It seems like if a player merely gets touched he falls and the referees and the VAR have the nerve to call for a penalty and I feel like I am going crazy because this is not the same game that I play. Do we fans really want this kind of football? Forget penalties, just these ridiculous fouls being called. In my opinion there needs to be an overview of what constitutes foul. If a player get the ball first (no studs) then it doesn't matter what happens to the attacker. Make the game a little bit more exciting for the defender, there is some art to that side of the game too. I think if a player severely damages another player he must compensate him financially so as to avoid dirty play but maintain the aggression in the game. Bring back the old football, they must try as much as possible to call fewer fouls.

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There need to be more financial regulations across pro football. Clubs should not be allowed to carry so much debt and still be elidgible for domestic cups and european club tournments. Also, there should be no loopholes in the regulations that the wealthy clube can exploit. I would even go further and have more revenue sharing and a salary cap but I doubt that will ever happen.

English premier league payments system is best……50% shared equally 25% merit based (20th gets 1 merit share 19th two until league winners 20 shares) 25% tv appearances (% off TV games each team appears in comparison to each other ……with all 20 getting at least 2 home 2 away live games on sky/bt is best but only if you add/ mixed it with German ownership 50+1 rules

Ich weiß das hört keiner gerne aber Investoren geben nun mal einen Finanzschub der langfristig eine Mannschaft aus der Versunkenheit retten kann wie einst Chelsea oder Man City (beide Meisterschaftsittel gewonnen) oder direkt eine Mannschaft aus dem nichts aufbauen kann wie Hoffenheim oder Leipzig und kommt mir jetzt nicht mit dem München 1860 Vergleich. Als Bayern Fan ist mir ein spannender Bundesliga Titel wichtiger als irgendwelche Scheinheiligen Vorstandsreden von Vereinen dass das noch unser Club sei, schön und gut aber dann gibts keine Meisterschaft. Ende. Was ist ein Revierderby dann noch Wert wenn der aktuelle Kader belächelt wird. Klar man hat sich auf Manager Ebene verkalkuliert aber es gibt auch genug Beweise in der Liga das Leute gut wirtschaften wenn sie die Mittel bekommen. Ich bins leid das die Spieler abwandern egal wie gut oder schlecht sie sind, vor ein paar Jahren wurde Holland als Ausbildungsliga von uns belächelt und mittlerweile sind wir ja nicht wirklich allzuweit davon entfernt.

Its the same problem all over Europe, the big clubs just don't give a toss about the smaller clubs,and if nothing changes which I sadly don't think it will,then we are heading towards extinction for all but the biggest clubs,they will then go on and form a European super league which is what the big clubs really want to happen anyway

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The only reason I watch the Premier League more (sporadically anyways) is that people around me would consider me weird if I watch the Bundesliga. My parents would prefer to talk about Leeds United more than Leipzig

There are some good ideas but I don't think that you can simply blame the system that "forces" you to invest money you don't have. It's still the club's choice and you can be good without it. Take a look at Bayern and SC Freiburg, both clubs are only spending the amount of money they can actually afford and both of them are doing very well in comparison to what one could expect from them. SC Freiburg had some great seasons but didn't say that they want to play international next season, they only wanted to stay in the league. After several years in the first league they are getting to a position where they can keep good players and invest in better players. Maybe one should not always aim that high for fast success but focus on slow but steady improvements. This doesn't mean that the whole system shouldn't be changed.

Bayern won everything last season, but Indian broadcasters left Bundesliga. Unbelievable treatment. Thank you FanCode for saving it

It's a difficult problem to solve. In every sport in the world, the entity that attracts the biggest audience gets the most amount of money. Look at Man United, painful to watch but turns overs some of the highest revenue each year. So it's fair that Bayern/BVB get the proportional share of TV money. Bundesliga needs to market itself more, much more. People don't know much about it. EPL's success comes partly from all those pandits chatting shit in English for hours and hours. RM and Barca also have a wide reach due to a large number of Spanish speakers in the world and their English outreach. German fans might hate me for saying this, but please market yourself in the world through English media. Player interviews, documentaries, and movies get some old players to sit and chat shit in English, build a dramatic media infra around the club.

Indian fans want it too❤️

I,m a fan of German football since childhood. Now the situation is complicated. In this capitalist world with no direct support from Government, there is competition to earn money to survive in the league, no one can deny the necessity of money. I also support 50+1 rules but that also deters large investors.

Bayern and Dortmund shouldn't be punished for being super successful, especially since they bring exposure and money to the league. However, because they (especially Bayern) rely on buying talented domestic players from other German clubs a more comprehensive player formation fee should be adopted. Basically, up to the age of let's say 27, every German club which contributed to the player's professional development should receive a well-defined and substantial payment, commesurate with several factors such as the transfer fee, the amount of contract years played at the club, the number of total minutes played at the club in each competition - something to basically differentiate and reward the impact which every club had on the development of each kid. That way, when Bayern comes and scoops the next Lewa from Dortmund, they have to pay an additional fee besides the transfer fee - to Dortmund and to all the other clubs which formed the player. This will have 3 possible outcomes: Bayern will either a) invest more in its youth academy or b) buy more foreign players or c) be willing to spread more wealth if they want to focus on mature German players d) buy younger German players Options a) and b) results in the other German teams having a higher retention rate of domestic talent (which can go up with an increase of player export tax outside of the league). If Bayern chooses option c) the gap between the clubs which produce quality players and Bayern will decrease. If option d) is chosen then Bayern will need to take a risk on younger players. Instead of taking Lewa at 26 (when he was already a superstar certainty and having a massive contribution at Dortmund) they will need to bring him when he is 22 if they want to pay a smaller formation fee. In the end Bayern needs to accept that if there are at least another 2 regular title contenders in the Bundesliga, the league itself will become stronger, there will be more money from television rights, sponsors and from UEFA prizes.

German football need ONE more super team. that would be either Dortmund or Hamburg

The bottomline is Germany will never support or find anything appealing where you throw so much money on it despite its success. These footballers career are very short, some of them are unlucky, get permanently injured and their career end woefully. They deserve to be richly paid...

7:37 That didn't age well hehehehe Schalke is down

The Rasenball dig though 🤣🤣🤣

The unfortunate truth is German clubs are held back because they’re German. When English is the world's, language it's much easier for someone from South Korea to support an English club than an Italian club, German club or Dutch club. That’s why you’ll see clubs like Stoke City with a larger online following than Shalke 04, despite Schalke being the “bigger” club.

I hope Man City don't get this kind of dominance, the prem has always been so exciting because of the lack of a Bayern or PSG.

Well I don't think Bayern Munich will be stopping anytime soon because they recently won a treble, and let's not forget that opening matchday 1 of the 2020/21 season. Bayern Munich 8-0 Schalke 04

I liked the video. I am a diehard Arsenal fan so the Premier League is my favorite but the Bundesliga is a close second and I support Werder Bremen. We just need to topple Bayern then the League would be so much better. That is why England is the best because all the teams are good.

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Hope one day football will grow in india also

High standard comp?

Der Bayern Liga hab ich schon länger den Rücken gekehrt.

" i fuckin told u " karl marx

All disapprobation aside, Bayern are a team that successfully used the 50 + 1 rule to mould the club into the dominant title winning face of the Bundesliga , that poaches the odd "best player"... Without the help of a sovereign wealth fund or billionaire owners...this club has become a blueprint for success... Hard graft aside... It's just a bit disheartening that Bayern and a competitive Bundesliga, have become a mutually exclusive entity...

They should take the English repartition system. Equal 50 % to everyone, 25 for league raking and 25 for tv ratings

Im a Bayern Fan and the Bundesliga is boring after all those years with Bayern as the winner.

If only Americans tried this hard to reform our countries poor policies

the problem is not BUndesliga. The problem is the rest of the league in Europe, offering ridiculous salary for players alluring them from Bundesliga. Sport supposed to be fast first, business later, like the BUndesliga. It's FIFA/UEFA fault.

Sankt Pauli is one of the best clubs in German history when they left the 1st bundesliga its been all downhill from there, I am from Nurnberg and at this point I hope they stay in the 2nd league there is hardly any chance for them to rise up in the 1st liga

K town is in the Dritte Liga. So long as feel like the FCK is my club then I don't care. It is the beating heart of the pfalz. This is where Americans and Deutschen can be one. If a billionaire came and changed that then we would all lose what we love.

2:00 something America has failed to do

We want jerseys for 20€ !!! Nit 100€ it is not winter jacket for fucks sake!!

"The good mustn't not be the enemy of the better" damn that is a good line.

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German state intervention . For every club 10 -20 mil .euros per year . 36 clubs ...not a one bilion euros ! What is that for Germany ?

It’s like these guys don’t want German teams to compete in Europe

I hope DW will make a video focusing on the cultural diversity Bundesliga offers and the huge break youths get from all over the world.

Germany is a leading country in many ways. If changes need to be made in EU football, its in German hands.

Am Anfang der Saison steht schon fest der Meister wir ? also Bayern München war ganz schön am Straucheln , nicht das erste Mal in der letzten Saison über die letzten Jahre . und die Konkurrenz hat es doch nicht geschafft die Schwächephase der Bayern auszunutzen. Also beschwert euch doch nicht das Bayern so starkes, bis spät euch doch lieber dass die anderen Bundesligavereine so Schwachsinn vor einigen mental so Schwachsinn

Lovley Idea's, but far from whats about to happen. If you scale it all on the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich will not be competetive in the Cl. So they will loose more and more money. Borussia Dortmund as well. The Bundesliga will not be able to regain that money lost there. So the Bundesliga will not be able to hold any Stars, neither domestic nor international. Our national Team Players will all play where the money is, so not in the Bundesliga. You can do it that way, for sure, but are all of you willing to sacrifice international Competition for B-Clas Football?

So European football need salary cap. Easy solution :)

The Premier League and Bundesliga are the best, most competitive league in the world. And the thing on why I love both leagues is because of the fans

Football is a prime example of unbridled capitalism where teams with the most money end up winning. This problem is exarcerbated by the Champions League's huge payoffs. Make it to the CL for a few years in row and you'll have enough money to buy your ticket in next year. What these supporters are proposing is interesting, but that will only reduce the quality of the league because teams with more equal, but smaller overalll budgets will not be able to compete with powerhouses of the EPL,, Bayern, PSG, La Liga and Juve to retain talent. In my opinion, football should be considered a cultural good, and not be subjected to the same EU rules of freedom of movement of players. Make it so that a team has a high requirement of local talent and a cap of foreign talent, and you'll have what you're aiming for without financially penalizing clubs.

A month later they get clapped 6-0. U love to see it

U need to control foreign investment if u want to protect any culture not just in football... Its even harder if the country embrace extreme capitalism...

If you want other teams to compete on the same level as Bayern then scrape the 50+1 rule and allow the billionaires to own clubs in the country. It's true they are profit minded but that is a risk you must take to be competitive. You need quality players to compete at high level and a quality player doesn't come cheap. These billionaires are not stupid, they know with success comes more profit so they will do their possible to make their clubs profitable on and off the pitch. You can't have it both ways, it is that simple.

give the American system a try. you can always go back if it doesn't work.

How do you bridge a gap which by logic is going to widen more and more?? Simple Solution would be to allow good investment in Clubs. People hate Leipzig for breaking away with 50+1 Rule where as they went on to build on young players not superstars ,though the RedBull Brand Endorsement doesn't go well with the Fans . The rule was introduced to let the fan have a majority of saying in the club , but vaguely it was setup to cushion two clubs especially Bayern (Same as the Big Picture in EPL). PL clubs like Aston Villa can get good players from CL clubs at a premium price . That's not a bad scenario given the Potential of the Big 6 in PL. I feel pity for German fans who are forced to believe in the Rule "A lie spoken 1000 times become Truth". They need to get their heads off the concept that Money is killing the Game.. Or just go around and change the entire structure and allow clubs to play only local players.

St. Pauli? What's this? The red district of Hamburg? Who cares their opinion? Which league are they in?

I love that this is framed as "news". This is not new people. this has been going on for decades. A few supporters and a couple of boardmembers isnt going to change it. The only and i mean only way to change it is if all the fans just say its enough and dont go to matches and stop watching them on tv for an entire season.

15:35 Is his idea some kind of football communism :/? Which value has it, if "even the newly promoted club has a chance to beat the 1st one?" To me it would mean the league turned into a bunch of mediocre clubs...

Why would the Bundesliga care about EPL fans' opinions? Everyone knows the Premier League is a joke. The EPL is one of the least successful leagues when they compete in Europe. And it's even more pathetic considering the fact that they have sugar-daddy investors and unlimited money.

I always saw the condemnation of Leipzig as a bit odd, considering you have a rogue FC bayern continualy making a mockery of the league every season. Without bayern and Dortmund the title race would be exciting every season, but with Bob and especially bayern its an absolute boring competion.

Since the super league abortion, the premier league is looking to run their clubs more like the bungesliga, so just hang in there Germany, we'll meet you in the middle! ❤

Bottom line is: football needs salary caps and transfer fee caps. Not only in Europe, but everywhere. More funds won't help you when smaller sides are able to offer the same wage you do. This would also lead to players choosing their teams based on reputation, planning/strategy and feelings. Football right now is in an extreme unregulated capitalist form. There is no regulation on transfers, over the economy, and when there is no market regulation, the giants keep getting bigger and crushing their competition. The tendency is for oligopolies to form, which then will slowly become monopolies. German football already became a monopoly. Spanish football might go that way, now that Barcelona is in crippling debt. France is going that way with PSG already. And even in England, who claims to have the league where anyone can win, there's still an oligopoly, since in recent years it's been cominated by Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool. Not even giants like Arsenal and Man United are keeping up with those three. And when you talk about UCL, there's still an oligopoly. The past 20 editions were won by 9 different teams, and after the 03-04 UCL, only Germany, Italy, England and Spain have had teams winning the UCL. This is a huge disparity.