If only everyone could do a Dolby Atmos course and understand how superior it is to stereo. Audio quality would increase overnight.

Is a course that can be found online?

@@pablitocarrion yes. I heard that EnginEars also have a certification program

where did u take your course?

What surprises me is since working in atmos every day, I've become more aware of the direction of sound in real life.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio I am starting to think about ATMOS when I am putting my song(s) together but my DAW (which I love) doesn't support it yet :-(

@@ianwalker2258 what you can do in that case is look at our Dolby Atmos mastering service. Only costs £50 and turns your mixed stems into Dolby Atmos. This way you will received your mix in Dolby Atmos just like what you are hearing in this audio demo. Your mix balance doesn't change.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio That sounds good. I am taking a ridiculous amount of time fiddling with my current composition but will definitely take you up on that (hopefully soon!)

Agreed this blew my mind!

thats facts

Yes but the more stems the more immersive and 3D we can make it. For instance a drum group can only go stereo on the front wall. But if we had each individual stem we can put kick centre, snare left right of the kick, hats wider, cymbals lifted off the ground and percussion pulled off the front wall more hard left and right. This results in a far wider stereo image with more depth and sense of space.

You can master the binaural mix in exactly the same way you a standard stereo mix

Yes you could use logic for instance to create a binaural mix. You will need to use headphones though and that will ultimately never be as good as a full speaker array in a perfect room calibrated using a trinnov. But it is possible all be it a lot of guesswork.

They say monitor on headphones but you can use speakers. Binaural audio using the Dolby renderer sounds brilliant through speakers. Perfect translation from atmos to stereo.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio Thank you!!

The binaural render is created by mixing in protools and sending each individual output to the Dolby renderer. The audio is then rendered and returned back to protools as a binaural stereo render.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio thanks!

What always makes me laugh is the engineers in disbeif saying it can't be done, I talk to a year later and they swear by it after learning how to do it correctly. There's a lot to learn and get wrong. Good to experiment find out what works and what doesn't

We use MTRX for monitoring and Burl converters for mastering chain. I haven't done any loop back tests on converters but I know SX Pro are comparing loads very soon.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio Good to know, thank you!

Setup a Binaural Stereo re-render from the renderer back into your DAW to record in real-time. Or record a Dolby Atmos master in the renderer and export a Binaural Stereo mix from the ADM.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio thank you so much i will try

Dolby Atmos renderer version 5 currently

I'm going to be creating a lot more. It's good for people to understand the difference it can make and show people you don't need a huge Dolby atmos studio to benefit. You are listening now in stereo.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio that is for listening but what about for mixing ....you do, don't you???

@@migibeats104 we hear the mix in a fully immersive 3d space. Which ultimately gives us the ability to create these fold downs correctly and accurately.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio yes l am aware of your studio. I was asking ftom the point of view of someone setting up his studio for atmos mixing. Very expensive additions.

@@migibeats104 yes it is very expensive to make the jump to building a Dolby atmos studio. That's why so many people are currently working with headphones as a budget workaround.

Yes. All mixing services we offer benefit

Work mixing in logic binaural and send de L & R stereo in to a zoom recorder

The stereo mix doesn't leave the DAW and go into the renderer. The binaural mix is re-render from the renderer that includes all binaural information. The binaural re-render is then mastered through a stereo analogue mastering chain. Don't listen to anyone saying you have to use headphones. The key is to set the binaural settings up correctly for speaker playback in stereo. This will take some learning. A lot of engineers have tried and failed this method and will then say it doesn't work, but once you understand how to correctly set the binaural settings, you'll achieve something unachievable in the stereo domain.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio ok I’m lost- not sure what you mean when you say the stereo mix doesn’t leave the daw and go into the renderer…?

@AustinSignal stereo mix doesn't sum into the renderer through the outputs to the renderer from the DAW. Instead sums to the DAWs master bus inside the DAW.

I'm truly sorry - not trying to be difficult. Truly trying understand your service! Trying to understand the process. The client sends you a stereo mix, or stems? Where does the ADM come from that generates the binaural file? Also - are you generating an ADM that is delivered to the streaming services?@@AudioAnimalsStudio

@@AustinSignal the client sends stems. The ADM is printed for playback on streaming services. The binaural re-render from the renderer is mastered in stereo for stereo playback.

Distressors are good, I'm not too keen myself on the fatso though.

The best way to perceive it, is think of what you are hearing with your music now being mono and then switching to stereo. You get a feeling of space and depth you otherwise couldn't hear in mono. This is a similar effect when comparing stereo to binural stereo. You get a sense that you are listening in stereo but the as soon as you switch to binaural stereo you can feel that sound is separated and has it's own space. You can pick each sound out and feel that it further away from you.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio Thank you for your answer. I will try it.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio Just one more question let me please. If you listen to for exemple Alan Parsons - Obstacles, or Roger Waters - to kill the child, they aren't simple stereos, right?

Yes. It is a stereo mix exactly the same as a stereo any other stereo mix. Just has a lot more detail and separation.

Don't ever use the Apple renderer it is shocking how inaccurate it is. Always use DAMS or the Dolby renderer. When you mix in Atmos you will mix into the Dolby Render. From there a binaural fold down can be printed as a re-render. This is then recorded as a stereo mix. Which can then be mastered in stereo.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio Hey man, what are you hearing with the differences between the Logic built in Atmos renderer and DAMS? Do you have an A/B? We just finished our build w/ Trinnov and Focusrite. I compose/produce/mix in Logic, been a ball, life changing really to create in Atmos. Haven't got to a point where I start my mixdown process from Atmos to binaural yet, that will be very soon. Looking forward to your thoughts on the matter!

@@ArchipelagoEnt seriously don't ever use Apple renderer to monitor playback for the purpose of creating a binaural stereo mix. It's so inaccurate and far from the truth of how the mix actually sounds. You'll notice that once you finish your mix in Dolby Atmos the fold down using DAMS is natural and sounds just like atmos but playing out of stereo. The fold down is perfect. Apple renderer though sounds different. You gain a low end bump and brighter highs. Parts phase and generally just sounds terrible. You'll come to this conclusion too. Good to quickly reference with but that's it.

This was really a massive difference in immersiveness! Thanks for the side by side comparison! In a similar vein, what about using Nuendo for for this binaural dolby process? Would that have similar effect as using Dolby … it seems to be touted as such. Thanks for your time!

All we would need is the stereo mixed stems. So that playback of your mixed stems plays back exactly as the stereo mix does. We can then take these stems and position and mix them in a 3D space.

Both are technically exactly the same thing. The master bus in Dolby Atmos is very different to the master bus in stereo.

No. Every mixing method we use was developed by us

Yes, any sound in the centre or positioned on the front wall will have the binaural metadata off. This combines both binaural and stereo.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio Now just to figure out how to access Atmos mixing on windows. Edit: Seems like DaVinci Resolve is the solution, so to achieve a spatial mix, I am going to attempt to mix the song in my DAW (FL Studio 21) then export the stems. Import them into DaVinci Resolve mix the stems further with spatial audio then export that session out into the final mix which will then be brought back into my DAW for the master.

Yes, we offer binaural stereo mastering for our clients. The end result is far superior to standard stereo mastering. I'll do a video on this soon.

No this isn't true. Binaural works with speakers as well. Which is why using any device to listen back to this audio you will hear the difference. Printing a Dolby atmos mix as normal stereo has zero Dolby atmos magic. It's normal stereo. What you are hearing in binaural stereo mixed in Dolby atmos vs normal stereo.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio thank you! I guess I really need to try it by myself. As mixing music in atmos is really new maybe you want to make a video to show us your approach as the “rules” of a classic stereo mix don’t really apply to a atmos mix. Have a nice day and thank you for your time!

@@jorginhojoao9808 Of course they do, mixing in Dolby Atmos and mixing in stereo are 95% the same. Which is why you can take stereo mixed stems and turn that mix into Atmos. The only major difference is panning instead of panning left and right you pan left right up down forward backward in out.

The difference was night and day on just iPhone speakers!

Could you elaborate more on the playback of a binaural mix on speakers. I’m also of the impression that a binaural mix must only be listened on headphones. I’m just getting into spatial audio and I’m trying to go the same direction as you guys to get my mixes more immersive. One of the main reason I’m going this route is to get that clarity from the mixing environment being able to place instruments in their own space, as opposed to mixing in stereo and coming up uniques ways to create space for all the instruments to be heard. I’ve been watching Michael G Wagner’s videos on mixing in Dolby Atmos and according to him, the binaural mix has embedded in the audio the way the mix should sound if we were listening on speakers. To me that means it has crosstalk from left and right speakers embedded in the file. So, if you listen to the binaural mix on speakers it will be doubling that crosstalk effect. This is where I need clarity before I dive too deep into spatial audio mixing. I really do like the advantages of mixing with Dolby Atmos though.

If you are experiencing sound getting smaller in atmos, I'd question the mixing engineers ability. Could be that you are listening to mixes where these elements binaural metadata is set to off. The format is new to a lot of mix engineers. Some don't fully understand how to get the best benefits from binaural stereo and atmos.

Yes on my list of videos to do

The average listener would hear the music the same way they hear every other song in that room but with a superior sound to if it was in stereo. The key to creating a binaural stereo mix is ensuring the translation is correct for all devices, much like you would a stereo mix.

But ac4 ims it does, right?

Me too. Which is why it is great that you can choose in the binaural settings to turn certain sounds to binaural off.

@@Djdj-zb3cv Even if the source isn't mixed in Dolby Atmos?

@@Djdj-zb3cv My question was more like: If i put a device in Dolby Atmos mode, but the source is in stereo...

@@Djdj-zb3cv Well, for me it sounds like Dolby Digital somehow. Still need to play a game which truely offers Dolby Atmos.

@@loki1895 unless its fake virtualisation no. There are consumer products that do these and thats where a lot of gimmick comes from. A normal 2.0 channel mix through atmos or headphones will just be stereo. An atmos mix through a binaural renderer (like in the video) sounds like surround by using complex algorithms that mimic phase and tone differences your ears hear in a real 3d space. Any games that have HRFT usually do this. Valorant is a good example the binaural rendering allows you to hear if footsteps are infront or behind you. There is also a mod for skyrim that does this that has decent results and then a bunch of games have atmos which when used with dolby access (or if you have headphones that have atmos decoding in them) gives you binaural sound based on that mix.

@@JimijaymesProductions Thanks for that long explanation. Normaly i just plug my Beyerdynamics into my TV Headphone in. On top of that i can use the Dolby Access App on Xbox Series X, but i need to use the Astros Mix Amp to make it work. And for me there's no way to tell if a game is already mixed in Dolby Atmos (it's rare i see a sound option for this) or if the Mix Amp + App already does the job, for any game.

10 years ago yes, but we have advanced in the past 10 years

Someone earned their degree very well put.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio what technology exists that ignores the laws of physics? You cannot place a binaural mix into stereo speakers without it phasing and be binaural. Give it a go and find out.

@jordanlmcgrath8815 what you are forgetting is when working in Dolby Atmos you have the ability to turn the binaural settings to off, near, mid or far. When you start working in the format you'll learn a lot more about understanding how to mix in binaural for stereo playback.

Not only delays but EQ adjustments and reflections. Spatial audio simulates the head transfer function. Sound coming from right side will be quieter, later and darker to the left ear than the right and vice versa. It’s all about how the head shape and sound direction affect what signal comes to each ear.

As someone that swapped my SSL console for an Avid S4 I can tell you factually I can achieve a a far superior sound working with binaural stereo compared to my analogue summing console. Analogue console sounded flat and lifeless in comparison. Which is why I sold it.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio To each = his own happiness !!! The main thing is the music!!!

@@user-nr9ln8go8r first hand user experience and testing is key in these conversations.

@@AudioAnimalsStudio I think the whole problem = in the psyche and faith in the very head of a person / everyone who switched to digital from the console / hardware = it is their belief that it is no worse than the real analogue /// but my truth = DAW=96/192khz + SSLDuality console + print on Studer A810 + iron mastering (everything without plugins at all) // but this is my truth / and there is no need to argue here! / let everyone do as he wants according to his faith as he thinks better !!! all happiness in their world!!!

@Алексей Вискалов everyone said the same thing when switching from mono to stereo. Then from horse and cart to a car. Times change and so does the industry. It's time to embrace the benefits of Dolby Atmos. It's all about delivering our clients the best possible sound.

It is part of our advertising campaign on Facebook and Instagram. It really highlights the benefits of binaural stereo

This is where so many engineers get it wrong. I won't tell you how to do it but believe me, you can print a stereo binaural mix that plays back on speakers correctly. There are quite a few engineers that have worked this out. It's an easy process once you get your head around it. I'd advise experimenting and looking into this. I hear these comments all the time and all it tells me is they haven't worked it out yet. Someone will do a tutorial on it one day. Till that time, engineers in the know and quite a few steps ahead.

@@AudioAnimalsStudioYou can Do that with a Dolby Atmos Av Receiver