Hi I’m early

@@anonymous-cx7ng hes too cool, isnt he.....???Thanks infj

This is so true

@@anonymous-cx7ng hi. i love early birdies.....too. i was dreamming of semi intimate dmh reunions. passst stufff i lovedand still do. celebrating is the farmers organic milk,still. YYUMM

@@anonymous-cx7ng im an enfp. sloppy cellphone and sunny day. at my non profit shelter stay. i need to takemy meds and go clean cubicle. sorry for the odd messy conversation. bye. have a nice day anyway .. . good fuzzzk. geez gotta go. want to keep my. stay. im happy somehow . food food food. fatbhappy gal. from now on.

I can say as an INFP that this is completely true

@@desiree8329 true that

I think I'm living with an INFP. He will ask me how he can do something better. I'm an INTJ/INFJ and i will tell him what i think, but then he will tell me every reason why he can do something the way i suggested. I even tell him better ways to communicate with me and he will tell me why he shouldn't communicate in the way i suggest he communicate with me. It's frustrating

Thats my sister

@@kjgarvin That doesn't sound like an INFP to me. That doesn't sound like any personality type out of all 16 of them to me. He just sounds like a jerk. If someone told me that x is the best way communicate with thwm, I would do thay to the best of my ability. I cannot and will not tell someone who has come to me with a solution to improve our ability to communicate that my way is better. A person making themselves vulnerable by opening up to me to say "it would be really helpful for me if you do x instead of y when we talk," then I am 100% here for it. I don't think this is a personality issue. I think it's an issue of respect, perhaps black & white thinking... and maybe some emotional abuse by asking how to make things better, acting like they want to improve, but when you answer, the person shoots back "no my way is better" is not actually someone who has any interest in changing their behavior to improve communication. Person 1: Hey, please, when you want to communicate with me, x would be the best way for me. Person 2: no. (Inside brain: I ask how I can do better to make KG think I'm interested in improving our relationship, but really, I just say that because I can't be bothered with changing.) I'm sorry your housemate treats you this way. In my mind, this person is being cruel to you.

Absolutely. Leave us alone, and we wont start any conflict. But if someone attacks us, we'll defend ourselves as if our life depends on it. I really hate it, when someone starts trouble with me, just because they want me to do something or be like something and when this ends in a conflict, they blame you for being responsible for all the trouble.

Question: Is you agreeing while you listening lying if you don't really agree?

Fellow INFP, I enjoy hearing what others have to say, but I literally hide in the bathroom when someone questions my convictions because I don't want to cry in front of them. And it is so embarrassing if the person starts being critical and I start feeling like I'm going to cry. Hearing other INFPs having a similar experience is so relieving.

@Carissa Hill The beauty of nodding during conversations is that it can either mean agreeing or just listening attentively… so you make them THINK that you agree but you’ve never actually said that, so you can do whatever you want! So no, it’s not lying. lol

@@katelovegood7961 Personally I still consider it lying in my book. And when miscommunication happens, it doesn't help any relationship and just causes more issues. Even though I am an Fi user, I still am all about idealistic world of peace and that means accepting someone's criticsm of me as authentic and deserving attention. I might tell them how they are dead wrong in the end, but I don't come off as a liar and build extremely strong relationships by doing so.

@@carissahill3414 I did not mean ignoring criticisms of myself; it *is* important to listen to them, since we can never get to know ourselves fully or improve ourselves without listening to what others have to say about us. The conversation I had in mind when writing my comment was more of a difference of opinion - like when you want to paint the walls in your room yellow, but suddenly someone comes in and says that they don’t like yellow and it’s ugly. I in that case would just nod so they would just leave me alone, but not change the color of walls because I like it

Forcing others to decide so you can avoid conflict, just draws conflict upon you through their resentment of your indecisiveness. 😁

@@Ralinos only when polar opposing camps go to war with one another is that true. In those times it pays to pick a side otherwise you'll be destroyed by both. In all other situations, only striving with others causes blame. So if you do not strive then you cannot be blamed.

Do I sense a fellow Enneagram Type 9? Maybe?

@@Shiri_Yam He/she most surely is a high-Fe user. My bet is INFJ.

Another INFP here, same! That’s why I always hates debates; I KNOW they’re in the wrong, I just can’t think of any arguments to convince them! So I always give up… and then all of a sudden I have ideas around 100 arguments while showering. Hate having inferior Te

INFP here too and i also cant talk when i get upset so I use the same methods you described

me too.....

@@katelovegood7961 It’s even worse when you have spent dozens of hours looking into the topic, and know that their argument is completely unsupported and they refuse to even rationalize their position. It’s fun when we can get to the root of the issue and figure out where our worldviews actually differ, but more often than not, they can’t support any of their claims, and ignore any evidence of opposing views.

Me three. When my (ISTJ) hubs refuses to acknowledge my viewpoints merits, I (INFP) don't argue much. I say "You could be right" then retreat to my cheerful,library, garden or anywhere he isn't. Knowing what I know. lol We often have disagreements that end with "We are saying the same thing. Just using different words." 😳

I ( an enfp) had arguments over the year for the same reason with my intj brother

So true. I don’t know why some people need to impose their view on things that really shouldn’t matter to them. Why do you care if MY desk is like this? I shouldn’t have to explain why I like it this way. Worry about your own!

@@linmonPIE It is their way to show they care about you - INTJ

@@jcharlie6466 I get it, but once the person expresses that they like it the way it is that should be the end of it if it’s not affecting anyone else. If you keep pushing it looks more like you’re trying to take over and being patronizing than caring about the person’s needs.

Sounds like she's ISTJ. an ISTP wouldn't advise you on organising your own desk. Or not maybe I'm wrong but personality tests results are wrong half of the time, but gives 3 letters correct 90% of the time according to FJ Just saying because I'm IxTP, and I almost never advise. Sometimes I do the opposite when someone advise me on how to live my own life or something

thanks

This really helps!

Thanks. I'm still kicking myself for a slight frown I made a couple weeks ago.

Same here . Being an intp I rarely realise the thing that I am hurting someone and I don't even know how to express my feelings. it feels so weird :,-)

My son is an INTP and has always tended to hurt his ENFJ aunt's feelings because he thinks he is just stating things factually. But the things he says are not personal and he is actually a very tender-hearted guy.

This bothers me, the fact that it doesn't seem like INTPs actually are sorry, and I would really like to know in order to appreciate Ti doms better (I'm Fi dom and very easily hurt). Are you really sorry for the actual thing you said, or just sorry that you didn't see the Fe implications enough before hand and you feel stupid for it? Because the way I understand it is that you guys are still very sensitive to other peoples emotions and are good at reading other people. And that makes it very complicated when I end up hurt by an INTP and didn't see it coming. (Naturally my example could just as easily not been type related (just your basic jerk), but if you relate to what I'm saying I would like to hear an explanation). And FJ had some good ideas on how to deal with us FPs better in conflict!

True

I agree. I am an INTJ and my sister is an INFJ too. The T-F difference is really great. Once when I and my sister were both talking about weakness I straightforwardly and a bit too bluntly told her what she needed to fix. It really doesn't end well.

As do I.

Maybe it's more like the Te-Fe difference ? Because my older brother is an INTP and I am an INFP and we rarely have problems finding common ground 🤔

I also am an INTJ with an INFJ sister. She says I'm too blunt but I call it honesty.

I'm the oldest of my siblings and a feeler. Both of my brothers prefer the T [thinking]; one is an INTJ and the youngest, an INTP. It was harder for me to get along with them when we were younger because I took a lot of things to heart and the things they say can sometimes be very hurtful even if they don't mean to. To be fair, I'm sensitive to what people say but it was a lot worse when I was younger. As an adult, I still take a few things personally and other times I deal with it differently.

You’re wrong and I’m not going to give a reason why

@@thederp9309 😂😂

@@thederp9309 why must you hurt me in this way

@@thederp9309 Yeah, man. Sometimes you have to be WRONG on purpose. It's funnier that way.

@@LuckyRare sounds like a skill issue

Thanks a lot💖

Found it,thank you

I don't care if someone's being manipulative if it means solving a social problem within a group of people. (ENTP)

Who says manipulation is inherently a bad thing?! You must use your powers for good! Not evil. ~INTP

yea! - enfp 😂

Yes! (ENTP)

Same

Same

That's a very positive view. Usually having Fi makes me only a massive procrastinator and pretty uncomfy in social situations.

Yes

I'm with you until asking them to defend their stance. If they turn the tables on me, my highly sensitive INFP arse is going to hide in the bathroom.

This is one of the reason i love INFPs bcoz i don't have any problem if people have different opinion than me regarding something, but i hate it when they are not even interested to know why i have a particular stance or try to force their opinion on me. INFPs seems to be good listeners. (INFJ)

Dude I say this all the time.

My dad is an ISTP and I'm ENFP... So, he constantly hurts me without noticing. But, he has improve though. (More because he doesn't want me to be emotional than because he really is sorry about) but, has worked out

I do care though

us fellow INFP's care lol

I agree as an infp with my istp bf

As an INTP, that sounds helpful!

As an INTP, I appreciate the gesture and I wish more people would do that because usually how that goes with me is they don't say a word about being hurt, I am not aware, and eventually they either shout at me one day because I've been rude all along or ghost me 🤷🏻‍♀️ Being honest in the moment, or even later, just saying it like you did, would make such a huge difference.

That was very open of him. I feel like if an INTP is comfortable with you, they would have come back and instead stated that their comment was just factual and perhaps you were just being sensitive.

as an infp, i think you two should get married

@@djayt1215 :) That's what I spontaneously thought too.

same Maybe developing of Fe but it is exam season so maybe just stress

'how an ENTP became an INTP'

I am out of uni, but other things are causing me stress. However, even before, when my stress was minimal, I started avoiding debates because I realized most people had fixed mindsets and it wasn't enjoyable exchanging ideas anymore. I still like discussing things, however (I am also a teacher by profession and every day there is something new for me to teach but also learn from my students and see their perspectives too). Maybe I am becoming more introverted, but I am not so sure. I like being around people (but I can't stand crowded areas). My idea of a fun time is doing outdoor activities.

@@carpediemsrce yeah, I get that its still fun to be debate things and have silly arguments. but like it won't change their views so proving all the ways they're wrong feels empty somehow - another entp

INTJ here. I feel this. I love a good debate but people are generally so low IQ that they don’t have brain nor eyes to see Truth. I’ve given up on them.

Ugh. The money part. I loathe money. And watching my family argue about money since I was a toddler and still to this day they continue to argue over inherited money--obviously this has not helped me have a good "relationship" with money.

As a fellow INFP, I understand you!! Just a small initial sentence that sounds positive support makes a world of difference.... E.g. saw my mum the other week and told her i'm starting a new job. soon. She said: how is this job different from your other job? No "congratulations/ yay/ how nice!/ oh wow!/" - no. Straight into a question, with a straight face. 😅 Hurts!! Haha

@@wintertontoday Congratulations on the new job!😃

@@wintertontoday oouuuff. Yeah. I feel that.

Agree!😏

This. Plus I mean let's just be honest: how frustrating is it to watch two ppl perpetually misunderstand eachother over & over to the detriment of a worthwhile shared goal or principle...and at the cost of harmony & progress. There's enough fundamental in that scenario to ruffle almost all of the types (except the ones who are almost entirely fueled by conflict-as-cognition, ofc, but even that can be awesome in the right light).

Similar situation, My mom is an INFP and my dad is an ENTJ. I'm.. an E/I-NFP. 50/50 Split for extrovert/introvert, but I guess I'll call myself an ENFP. We get in a lot of conflict but my mom will tend to take my side, but both my mom and dad are fairly critical of me constantly.

Me, too! As an ESFJ, I don't take charge over stronger personalities, but I often find myself being a leader in small groups because after 5 minutes nothing is being accomplished. I'm bad at delegating though and prefer working alone.

The thing isn't with agreeing or disagreeing. It's with dismissing the other. Try to hear them out in the conflict and expose your points calmly, letting the ISTP validate it. If you just dismiss it with agreement, I'll get annoyed. If you dismiss it with disagreement, I'll double down. ISTPs have this problem of sounding mean even when they don't want to, and not explaining why you're reacting the way you are is the thing that gets the most on their nerves. ~ ISTP.

People say that fighting with me is a loose battle, they feel like they'll never win, maybe they'll leave me thinking later on but they'll loose when the argument is occurring.

so you're saying as an entp we might get on like a house on fire? where can i find these istps? can I buy one on amazon prime?

I also agree with this. Very often I might tell someone that I disagree with them, but that I do understand their opinion and that it DOES makes a lot of sense, I just don't personally like it and therefore don't view it the same way. I actually tend to enjoy listening to other people's opinions and views, when they aren't try to make me feel the same way. Sometimes people are chill with that, but I've noticed a lot of people don't seem to understand it and either try to force me to agree with their opinions, or think that I am trying to force _my_ opinions on them (which is not at all what I want to do, so I usually try to make that clear, but some people _still_ don't understand, which gets really frustrating sometimes)

Yeah same here¡¡ Thou I'm much like your brother because I don't that much & careful about my words and the way others see me ....thou in many times I don't care that much let loose the guard a bit ≈≈≈`♠INFj♠

This what put so beautifully I might write this down one day.

omg just thought about this now but I am INFP

Lol are you an entj by chance?

As an INTP, I am calm in general, but when ENTJ walks into the room BOOM, can't stand them at all.

"I am still getting used to the higher energy, more upbeat version of you." I think the former version was more... I don't know... genuine. Self-genuine is what I mean.

Actually, he sometimes says "crap" in his video. Maybe it's much more prevalent in those from a couple years ago though. When I hear that word, I give the video a thumb down, and go on watching, and enjoying, it.

Ur not the only one I do the samething even if the whole time I was wrong, and than sometimes the person I debated with would still think Im right after the fact that I was wrong lmao

Agreed!

ESFJ I really have a problem with this Ben Shapiro type attitude that facts are the only thing that matters in an argument. Humans are social animals. We have feelings and I believe we should embrace that. I’m not saying you should let emotions cloud your judgment but you shouldn’t completely deny them either.

@@TittyMonster64 Ben Shapiro is not an intj nor does he actually follow this thought pattern/method. He doesn’t allow others to argue their positions thoroughly. He interrupts and attacks incomplete thoughts without caring for the context. He also uses his feelings as a defense against actual facts and logic. A lot of people who claim to be intj or use intj methods aren’t and they don’t use them correctly because their true typing always shows, making others view intj types negatively due to the experience.

What is a fact....we all possess emotions. To a certain extent we are all powerless to their effects on our psyche. To discount them in any debate, or exchange of ideas, is to limit your capacity for wisdom and skills at getting your point across. Because ANYTHING can be rationalized. ~INTP

Feelings are very "factual" based. All humans share at least 7 completely different feelings that are universal and can be universally seen on the face as the SAME expression. Even Data in Star Trek realized the importance of emotions and how he was lacking in "facts" without them.

If you have Fe as a strong function rather than Fi, you're likely an ENFJ instead of an ENFP. Either that, or your Fi causes you to deeply hold onto your morals, which may involve trying to make others feel important and special, in which case, you're likely an ENFP. Fe and Fi don't have that clear of a boundary. There's some haze.

@@Chigger please explain more as I was 51/49 on ENFP/ENFJ. Hmm...

I see the big difference between Fe and Fi as viewed as Objective/subjective. Objective feelings are to me what people "should" feel or what the whole group is feeling as a whole. It is like a standard "normal" of feelings and Fe users can easily spot those that are not feeling the "normal" of the group and that makes them feel uneasy as they need to know Why so that everyone can be on the same page. I see Fe users highly aware of the juging aspect to feelings. To me as an Fi user, ENFP, I don't respond to the judging aspect. I don't feel like I have a choice over HOW I feel in the moment though I can change the environment, my mental thoughts or other outside circumstances so I feel different in a later moment. The notion of I "should" feel this or that because everyone else is feeling this or that is like hitting a brick wall and I mean even metaphorically for myself. If I think, I "Should" feel this way.... this is no method for me to feel that way just because I "should" feel it. I either do or I don't. I don't question my feelings as much as I see Fe users questioning theirs in the sense of everyone else. I question my feelings in the sense of myself. When I think, "Why am I feeling this way?" I am searching myself for the reasons mostly and need to go inward and the rest of the world kinda vanishes even if I am still physically present in the room. it appears that Fe users are searching others for the reasons. idk. There are times where I know that I am feeling a certain way and that those feelings are NOT mine. And then I can look out to see where they come from, but for the most part, my experience of my feelings are my own to process and not picking up others. And when I am processing those feelings, I need time alone. For the majority, the actions I take are based on how "I" feel and not others even though I can be aware of how others feel and have a high degree of empathy for others which can get mixed into my feelings. It like they mix in with MINE not Mine mixing in with theirs. People can reason with me to feel one way or another but in the moment actions I am taking are based off MY feelings and not the entire groups feelings... But I don't think we act completley in a void as Lane said, it seems to mix a little. If you find yourself laughing at something and everyone looking at you wondering what you are laughing at and you can't stop laughing even though it is causing an awkward situation.... You are an ENFP. If you have experienced the other side where you have no clue why they can't just stop laughing and get "with the program" then you would be an ENFJ. my take on it.

@@user-pk5pl7ox1e Based on percentages alone, it's slightly more likely for you to be classified as an ENFP. ENFJ has the function stack Fe-Ni-Se-Ti, whereas ENFP has the function stack Ne-Fi-Te-Si. This suggests you use intuition and feeling as your main two functions, and your dominant function seems to be an extroverted one. Take stock of whether you're more likely to use N or F at any random typical moment, and think about whether it's directed more at your inner world or the outer world.

@@Chigger thanks for clarity. I've never understood the introverted and extroverted of each as I just so the F function as feelingsey and thats it because clearly I've not that much in depth knowledge. I think quote deeply these days. I internalise it. Before pandemic it was different story. Also with the P/J. Sometimes I feel the J come out. Not all time though. I try not to judge too much and try keep open minded about what could have happened inna situation that assuming something happened. Sooooo many possibilities in terms or reaosn behind things. Hmm...interesting tho

Same here. I actually learn a lot from my ESFJ sister POV so I could explore and get used to my inferior function. -INTP

@@kikioliveer hell yeah!

Yay for physics!!! Maybe point out all the techinological advances because of quantum physics! MRI scanners and transistors, electron microscopes, The atomic clock! Solar energy! And of course lots coming up! The idea can be unsettling but the practical applications are unlimited with the new quantum materials we are making like graphene. Pretty amazing what has happened in my lifetime.

You could be EXTP too, these types care a lot about people but have a different way of showing it

@@why_1103 The Fe function is essentially the peacekeeping function. They may be mistaken for something else though with the complexity of the other functions, but Fe is THE peacekeeping cognitive function in which all FJs share.

I don't like conflict too, but not really often to the point of crying (it's okay to cry though!). I'm an ISTJ

Same feelings on conflict or heated arguments. ISFP....I think.

I am an infp, I tend to like conflict or drama but only when I'm not involved in it. I like trying to figure out why person A thinks In a "bad way" or anything along those lines. Although, this does not mean that I don't feel for the person, I just don't feel that level of sadness(so much that you can cry) for conflict or drama. If the persons are going through something that is really really painful, then yes I will 100% cry

Yes same.

I’m an ISFJ and I also feel this way. I work from home mainly because I can’t handle the work drama

Haha I just subscribed. Haha I saw the "Maybe I should check some emails....ding ding ding ding... maybe not today" Hahaha That is so Gold! If I have to check my emails, I have to do it all day long so I actually do it... otherwise "Today" never comes... which is mostly where I am right now with my emails.... People who know me have to send me a text or call saying to look at my email.

I've found rather than trying to probr wrong, focus on explaining your side only which is YOUR perception of situation and hopefully you'll see a better more healthier outcome. Let me know how it goes

The plan! When they can't see the plan and you have to wait for others to catch up or to understand the plan . . . This can be agony!

Classic Te vs Ti XD Ti is subjective, while Te goes with what was planned!

You like to play with fire, I respect that

@@benjaminharmon6541 you and I could be great friends.

@@douggodsoe friendship offer accepted

@@benjaminharmon6541 So, what happens next? I’ve never been here before. Usually there’s a lot more complaining and name calling. Should I send you a card for your birthday? God, I don’t even know when your birthday is! I am a terrible friend!

@@douggodsoe My birthday is 1/10. Send me thoughts and prayers on that day, that's all I require.

Mh would say this is not typical for esfp who actually always just want to have a good time. I'd say its more a mom and a cultural thing (I know that from my mother, too. Love her til death, but it's a different, more strict generation and culture).

You are right ✨

Tip for talking to the ISTP in general Don't -ISTP

Spot on!

same 🦾

THIS! I'm an INFP and I cannot work in an environment that isn't happy and harmonious. Every decision made in the company that doesn't take into consideration people's emotions is bound to have repercussions in the work and inner dynamics of the company. There's nothing worse than working in an environment where there are constant spoken/unspoken conflicts. In the long run workers become resentful and unproductive. It's just human nature. Logic is necessary, yes, but feelings are crucial, despite the fact that they don't seem like it.