How To Jump Higher For Volleyball

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Isaiah Rivera

Isaiah Rivera

Ай бұрын

Here’s all our best jump training advice for volleyball players! Whether you’re in season and struggling with knee pain or off season and trying to figure out how to fix training and practices we have you covered.
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@shaybaron82
@shaybaron82 Ай бұрын
I’m a volleyball coach. My answer to what is more important the athletic component or the skill: I would say its the same. For every level of volleyball that you play there is the matching skill and matching athletic abilities that are required. You can’t play high level volleyball without being both a high level athlete and a very skilled player.
@rodneyc3202
@rodneyc3202 Ай бұрын
Watching games from the best leagues and then watching college games… the difference is huge
@user-rp6bj3dm5g
@user-rp6bj3dm5g 23 күн бұрын
Right. Although skill is really important your gonna need to be able to touch way over 11 ft in the pro leagues
@micky7204
@micky7204 24 күн бұрын
Max reach in jumping is a 10/10 for importance in volleyball. The effect your play has on the game when you get up high is crazy. For starters, if you’re short in volleyball, you can’t even score points at all if you can’t get above the net. In basketball, you can shoot 3s to compensate for your height disadvantage. In volleyball, you can only defend and assist if you can’t reach a certain height. I really appreciate yall for taking the time to talk about this stuff. I’m trying to increase my vert as much as possible over the summer while I have a break from practicing constantly.
@user-qf5xu9kt8u
@user-qf5xu9kt8u Ай бұрын
LETSSS GOOOOO, all the volleyball boys rejoicing right now, THANKKSSSSSSS
@zs098
@zs098 Ай бұрын
I’m a middle blocker and play club for my university. For men’s indoor volleyball, i would say increasing your vertical is more important than honing your skills, especially if you play front row (wouldn’t expect a libero to be prioritizing jump training, but they still could) because you already have to be decent to join the club team, and because volleyball isnt our primary obligation, there’s only so much time we can put into skill base training. Especially if you play front row, increasing your vertical is essential. I think the same logic goes for women’s indoor volleyball but they play way more technical due to their lack of power, while men’s volleyball is all about power in the spike
@dennisrobinson8008
@dennisrobinson8008 Ай бұрын
What type of verticals do they have?
@ChanceGuevara
@ChanceGuevara Ай бұрын
​@@dennisrobinson800830-40 inches in the olympic stage
@masterkhais4479
@masterkhais4479 Ай бұрын
Not everyone is a club or college player, nor above 6 feet. Playing at a higher level of course you will need the vertical jump because that will elevate your game and allows you to compete at the higher level. However, even for front row players will still need the skills and techniques to hit the ball. Even tipping the ball requires skill and iq, tooling the block, placement of the ball. Skill and technique is more important and should be prioritized, but strength training, flexibility, and vertical jump comes afterward when your skills and techniques are established.
@tim_nextvolleyball
@tim_nextvolleyball 26 күн бұрын
Interesting insight! I'm 28, own a volleyball club, 6ft 5in, 8ft reach, 200lbs with a 38 inch vert touching over 11ft. Your coach nailed it at 19:30. At a high level, assuming approach and timing skill is good, max jump touch is the ultimate decider. Additionally, arm swing technique, hand contact, and velocity are just as critical of a breakpoints as max jump touch. When you watch volleyball, often you will see players who only have one or two of these breakpoints dialed in. (jump ability, timing, arm swing, hand contact) However, when an athlete has each breakpoint dialed in and a skilled team to set them up, it is something to behold. Look up TJ Defalco and watch him play with our national team. I played against him in club and every one would crowd his court to watch him because we all knew that he had it all... and this was only the beginning for him. I loved what you said about more coaches need to focus on and respect max jump training and the toll it can take on ones body. I will be experimenting with your coaches two peak plan! Thank you!
@tim_nextvolleyball
@tim_nextvolleyball 26 күн бұрын
Personal Notes: 2 Peak Plan - Nov - July November: (foundation) - STRENGTH - Max Jump Training - Low Volume High Intensity, High Freq. HIT - Weight Room / Calisthenics. Champion Mindset. TESTING: Jump Touch(use antenna), Speed- 15-30-15(sprint and shuffle), Strength - Bounce/ throw Distance? / Pushup max December: (pre-comp) - SKILL Training, Serve and pass focus w/ 80% max jump - 100 jumps a practice w/ basic testing before and after each practice to monitor player performance & recovery Jan (comp) - SYSTEM Training. Speed and Agility - Tendon and Ligament training - Recovery focused, extended cool downs Feb (comp) - SYSTEM Training. Mobility - advanced defense / niche techniques and skill work (Blocking, Tipping, Digging, Covering, Setting, Jousing, Overpass, Transition, Attack on two hits) March (slowComp) - (TESTING) STRENGTH April(comp) - SKILL Training, 80% jump max sustained 150+ jumps a week May (comp) - SKILL - Speed Training. Mental Game - Advanced Strategy, Team Dynamic, High Pressure Practice, Stress Management, Champion Performance June (comp) - SYSTEM - Mobility, Overcoming impossible odds, Visualizing, Recovery July - Nationals
@carsonhilburn571
@carsonhilburn571 Ай бұрын
Starting out in volleyball, vertical is really important because the game is played over the net so being higher up gives you a big advantage. Then once you get up to the university level and everyone is touching relatively the same it’s way more about skill and hitting shots. All attackers jump well at the higher level so you don’t get many chances to hit straight down because you’ll probably get blocked, so skill comes into play a lot more if you wanna be successful.
@mchoopss
@mchoopss Ай бұрын
360 Between the legs Volleyball spike 🔥🔥
@yeeyan27
@yeeyan27 Ай бұрын
Josh Barinna mentioned 🗣🔥, great video Isaiah
@IsaiahRivera1
@IsaiahRivera1 Ай бұрын
You already know!
@Teeco10
@Teeco10 Ай бұрын
Been a fan for years Isaiah and I’m so glad you started getting on volleyball
@JustinVang_
@JustinVang_ Ай бұрын
The simple answer is that skill is way more important than vertical. To a certain degree (mainly in lower level volleyball like B level or BB which is recreational-average players), vertical is important. An average player typically can’t hang with someone who is just jumping out of the gym. But when you get to that next level which is A, AA, or higher, you find out fast that vertical alone can’t carry a person to the next level. Vertical (specifically for the front row) is more so a “multiplier” for skill in the sense of “skill ceiling”. A person with high skill and a medium vertical can have a wide shot selection for points and they’ll typically be really good. If you give that person something like THP Strength and now they have high skill and a high vertical, they’ll have an even wider shot selection and way more ways to score. The point is that a higher vertical isn’t necessary for this person to score because they can score anyways, but a higher vertical would be nice to have.
@JohnEvans
@JohnEvans Ай бұрын
Interesting points! So if you had like an 11 foot max touch but crazy shot selection verses someone with a 12'5" max touch, who has a better chance of making it further in the sport?
@JustinVang_
@JustinVang_ Ай бұрын
@@JohnEvans If we're talking about overall potential, my opinion would be the person with a 12'5" max touch. But of course, the guy with an 11ft touch and has a high skill has the higher actualized potential. There's obviously more factors to this, and each guy can be highly valuable in their own way.
@JakeNorthrupVolley
@JakeNorthrupVolley Ай бұрын
You should clarify you’re talking about beach volleyball here. In which case I’d agree skill is more important from B to A; A to AA is pretty balanced importance; AA to open is getting to more jump height is more important (or you need a full time blocker that is tall so doesn’t need to jump high, or you split block as a taller defender and then you need to be able to jump high at that level). Whereas I think beach is slightly more skill based than indoor. I also think the same rule could be applied to indoor where skills are important at younger or beginner levels, then it’s balanced at the medium levels, and then to get to the highest level you need to hit the jump height standards which set your potential but then skill allows you to make use of the potential
@JustinVang_
@JustinVang_ Ай бұрын
@@JakeNorthrupVolley My claim is based on all the variants of volleyball - sand, indoor, grass. I’m pretty sure we’re on the same page though 😂 Take my statement with a grain of salt. My bias is that I’m a 5’4” outside hitter, max touch @ 9’9”, so I’ve had to make due with having a medium vertical and a relatively low touch by making up with skill. In my experience, skill trumps vertical any day.
@JakeNorthrupVolley
@JakeNorthrupVolley Ай бұрын
@@JustinVang_ yes! Love it!
@lukeswartzentruber631
@lukeswartzentruber631 Ай бұрын
Love this style of videos
@user-bt8tu8uj7c
@user-bt8tu8uj7c Ай бұрын
this video is straight faxs 10/10 importance for jump ability and skill, especially for shorter hitters
@TheSkidoofreak123
@TheSkidoofreak123 26 күн бұрын
I play beach doubles primarily and also some grass doubles. I would say skill is definitely more important than athletic ability, but It’s also an advantage being athletic. Playing doubles is definitely more of a skillful game than playing indoor just because you have to be such a versatile player. I would say, compares more to tennis but using your body a lot more, we have some tournaments that are two days long. And I believe you would jump way more often playing doubles, then indoor
@santiax_01yt
@santiax_01yt Ай бұрын
Thank u so much! There’s not a lot of volleyball content out there
@Futurefatherminds
@Futurefatherminds Ай бұрын
perfect timing
@anthonysantos3021
@anthonysantos3021 Ай бұрын
What Isaiah mentioned at around 17:30, is pretty much accurate, and there are great volleyball strength coaches w good periodization that include off season hypertrophy, strength, mobility and rehab kinda
@vanlight7826
@vanlight7826 Ай бұрын
I'm glad you guys made this video volleyball. As a volleyball player, I was hesitating to sign up for THP but seems like you guys already know a lot about it. My biggest worry was not being able to "implement" whatever advices you would give me because I have to be jumping very frequently throughout the week.
@VolleyPoke
@VolleyPoke Ай бұрын
Speaking as an experienced Beach and Indoor, Player and Coach for 10 years, Scale of 1-10 Vertical max touch versus Skill Importance level👇 Indoors: you can be specialized in a position, and some of those positions vary on this. Front row players, blockers hitters, vertical jump and endurance of that is near as important as skill or experience. Beach: Vertical is important, but skill can be of more use with more ways to score creatively. But Vertical is critical to access parts of the court that you know are open. Moral of the story Vertical and Skill are at about a 40/60 importance ratio, for both Indoors and Beach, IMO. One could argue more Vertical for Indoor and more Skill for Beach, im sure. But again positions are a factor for indoor.
@Rurieodnek
@Rurieodnek Ай бұрын
40/60 is a perfect ratio in my opinion. Especially as an outside hitter i am 6’1 and I am very short compared to others, if I didnt have a high vertical I could not compete with the other guys
@zoe2020-is7sc
@zoe2020-is7sc Ай бұрын
One of the highest jumpers in international volleyball is Yuji Nishida. You should make a podcast about him in the future.
@cheunghenok3814
@cheunghenok3814 Ай бұрын
not sure about that i think Stephen Boyer jumps higher
@novasedits4764
@novasedits4764 Ай бұрын
​@cheunghenok3814 they said *one of*, but it's debatable between Boyer, Nishida, and Patch
@Irfirt
@Irfirt Ай бұрын
Wlazly, marschall, boyer, Ben Tara, kaziyski, Patch
@cheunghenok3814
@cheunghenok3814 Ай бұрын
@@novasedits4764 yeah true i just thought that other pro vb players that also has high vert like yuji should get some recognition instead of having a spotlight on yuji whenever ppl talks about highest jumpers in pro vb thats all
@maciejwnuk3502
@maciejwnuk3502 Ай бұрын
For the volleyball there's a whole spectrum of positions that requires from almost no vertical jump training (libero) to almost only vertical jump (middle/opposite). I played in semi-professional club in Poland as a outside hitter and I had higher max vertical then my friend who played in PlusLiga (best professional league in Poland) as a outside hitter. I also had higher vertical then Michał Kubiak who was polish national team capitan as outside hitter while winning world championship. So for my position skill is much more important then vertical. On that high level for most practice I used to jump at 60-70% of my max just to survive. I remeber one match with over 120 attacks + blocks + jump serves (combined over 200 jumps in 3 hours match) and it was a killer.
@user-ut3ky8ig8v
@user-ut3ky8ig8v Ай бұрын
im a former d1 player and I loved what you said about "something has to give" my vert went down (41 going into college, 36 whe I left + back injuries I still have to this day) during college due to over training and when i spoke up about it I was labeled as a complainer and weak, coaches told me I didnt have enough "grit" but it was BS I just knew my body better than they did I hated the weight room because the results werent there As for the skill level question: there are plenty of players who dont touch 11+ but are incredible because of their wrist control, think about it like being a pitcher. A pitcher doesnt need to throw 103 to pitch in the mlb if they have great control over the spin and play of their pitches. Verticality can often be a crutch for some players to lean on and they dont end up becoming their best because they can jump high and hit hard As for number of jumps in the gym for a d1 program. It is easily 250+ a day, then you squat 40-50 reps at 60-90% intensity right after then coaches are surprised when their players get injured
@foksy.254
@foksy.254 Ай бұрын
it's the same as what you said, there is a reach based for high level, but then skills comes to be more important EXEPT if there is a big gap from two players, it makes a big difference
@21NOWAYY
@21NOWAYY Ай бұрын
Hey! Been loving the content and the format recently. I recently got injured in my lower back (spondylolisthesis grade 1), should heal up but I am expecting to stop playing for a couple of weeks. How will this affect my vert and his there any exercises I can do while injured that will help maintain jumping strength? 😊
@mbow470
@mbow470 Ай бұрын
I played both basketball and volleyball. My vertical was my success in both sports, and off season was the key to building my vertical. I didn't get to Isaiah's level but I topped out at a 42 inch vertical with a max touch of 11'4". In my prime I played A and AA volleyball
@raynavarrete7987
@raynavarrete7987 Ай бұрын
Thank you both for helping and encouraging Nesir. You guys are amazing and very knowledgeable. I’ve been taking notes and working on a bootleg version of THP called RHP which I will be selling on Canal st (a place where you can buy the bootleg version of anything in NYC) for a limited time. RHP might sponsor your next video, depending on sells. All Jokes aside…you guys are the truth…the 2 other players from the team that we recommended last June to join THP, that actually had worse knee pain then Nesir…went the whole season without knee pain. Great job fellas!!!
@IsaiahRivera1
@IsaiahRivera1 Ай бұрын
I need that RHP! 😂 Been a pleasure working with you guys 🙏🏼
@hansjochen2193
@hansjochen2193 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this Video since i was one that requested this you Guys are awesome!!! I Play beach Volleyball and this IS my Take on it The Skill height Ratio becomes more important the shorter the athlete. If you Talk about a pro Level where everyone IS above 1.90m, Power Volleyball (which means use physicality, jump high Hit hard) becomes less affective and you Shift towoards skill and strategy AS the Key factor. So for beginner i would say Power Volleyball (be tall, jump high, Hit hard) vs Skill IS a 80 20, intermediate its 60 40, and advanced to pro its shifts to Like 35 65 So IT IS basically Like you described with bball One Thing you need to remember that differenciates from dunking IS that you fit your penultinum step so that you Land with the opposite Leg from your hitting Hand, and you Twist your Torso more then dunking so you can load your arm. In the short you uploaded you can See your Hit is Not powerfull because you Lack the loading of the arm and dont swing your arm. In my opinion this affects your max vert too but i could be wrong
@user-hw2uf7do4n
@user-hw2uf7do4n Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video Isaiah, the community really appreciates it. What shoes do you think would be the top 1 for a volleyball player? (I understand that it may be a different answer than the best for basketball, since in volleyball we jump more but we run less). Thank you very much and best regards from spain! :)
@Odemiar
@Odemiar Ай бұрын
I would just like to request if you could do a video on spike power. I’ve had no issue with jumping and spiking but the problem is power. How do you get more power? How do you control power? And additionally, how to properly aim a spike.
@charkienguyen
@charkienguyen Ай бұрын
i play d3 right now, there is a skill ceiling, as a shorter player, people will hit over your block constantly. attacking not incredibly important to have a higher vertical but helps. if you are good at using the block or choosing spots to hit youre fine.
@mcshuffles4032
@mcshuffles4032 Ай бұрын
I think what you said about basketball players having a baseline vertical and then improving the skill will allow you to play at a higher level. The higher you jump you get more angles when you spike. If you jump high and suck at spiking or the connection with the setter isn’t there you can’t really go far. I would say the KPI is spiking efficiency and you can improve that multiple ways. Spiking different angles, hitting off hands or using the speed of the set to beat the blockers.
@camueeuee
@camueeuee Ай бұрын
I have been coaching volleyball for about 7-8 years both club and high school. I also have played both high school and college. I think technique and skill is way more important when it comes to hitting. I currently have a player that has close to a 40" vertical, but his timing and technique is not as great compared to someone who has great technique that can slam a ball down. You also have to take in account the size of the court and the hand-eye coordination to actually hit the ball. Eventually, there is a ceiling where you do need to increase your vertical, but you need to learn how to hit the ball correctly first.
@saammmv1203
@saammmv1203 Ай бұрын
At the collegiate level athleticism is more important. In my team, me and another setter were competing for the starting position and unfortunately even though I was the better setter the other setter started because he had a higher touch. The block is a key component of volleyball that can be locked passed sometimes.
@sean_b829
@sean_b829 Ай бұрын
I’m a college volleyball player and I can definitely say skill matters far more than jumping however the ceiling is higher the higher you touch, this is because having the skill to hit around a block even one that you clear over isn’t easy because the height that the ball crosses the net is lower than what you touch so to take advantage of the height you achieve you have to have the skill to hit the right angles where the ball clears the block as well. I actually had a teammate who was 6’3 with a 45 approach vert touching 12ft at 17 years old and even having played volleyball several years still struggled to hit around the block and would get blocked. All this said I love y’all’s videos and I think you’re understanding it from the coaching perspective because load management is definitely a volleyball player’s biggest enemy and often neglected
@arif.6466
@arif.6466 Ай бұрын
Definitely do an episode on Yuji Nishida
@mndstelevate
@mndstelevate Ай бұрын
oh my god thank you for this video about volleyball. im 17, 6'2 with like a 35 inch vert and i play vb almost everyday i play outside/opposite, i grind plyos too with my friend
@lightway2809
@lightway2809 Ай бұрын
wtf we twinning bro except im 16 but i play middle i started a month ago
@mndstelevate
@mndstelevate Ай бұрын
@@lightway2809 haha that’s 🔥
@anthonysantos3021
@anthonysantos3021 Ай бұрын
I estimate a vball approach is about 20ft, 4 steps for the outside hitters
@soloice1351
@soloice1351 Ай бұрын
To answer your volleyball question, the skill of hitting the volleyball is very important because as a 5,9 person almost being able to dunk with like a 35 inch vert I was one of the worst hitters on the volleyball team even tough my jump was by far the highest on the team. This was because I just simply couldn't learn how to hit the ball and instead I was focusing on jumping as high as physically possible.
@paulschiller5892
@paulschiller5892 Ай бұрын
The baseline for volleyball to compete at a decent level is your eyes above the net. Everything after that is a major plus. For me that’s a 10”6-10”8 touch at 6ft with a standing reach of 7”4. As long as you have this level of height in your attack jumps, skill si more important
@xMaizzo
@xMaizzo Ай бұрын
I feel like yes vertical is good for block and hits but at the same time skill is most definitely more important because a good player will know where to be when someone is hitting no matter how high they jump
@mndstelevate
@mndstelevate Ай бұрын
i would say honestly how high up you touch is more important than vert itself ofc we know height is #1 most important in vb but aside from that, the higher you can reach the more hit options you have available
@shanedoyle9876
@shanedoyle9876 Ай бұрын
Max touch becomes extremely important at the highest level of volleyball becuase a technical blocker can only get so good. If a "perfect block" is in place with 3 blockers, a player with a high enough contact point will be able to hit over the block more effectively when hitting around is not an option. You see this often with the tallest hitters in pro indoor gameplay. This also goes the other way around as you need a higher vertical in order to not get hit over as a blocker.
@SwiftLikeDrift
@SwiftLikeDrift Ай бұрын
Setup time will be. 3-5 seconds for leftsides. 1 second for middles. 2-3 seconds for right sides
@karljakobson6257
@karljakobson6257 Ай бұрын
Blocking is easier in volleyball because u are rarely blocking alone in an actual game, usually there are 2 even 3 guys blocking at the same time, which already takes a lot of the hitting choices away. And also if going by the Isaiah's wording that "its like dunking a alley oop but with different timing" then as a blocker u are able to predict when, where and how the hit will come based on the set. Also the sets are usually not that far from the net(except backline hitting) so the ball is only inches away from the block on normal hits. If we are talking about a 1v1 situation then he is correct because it kinda expected for a hitter to score against one block in higher levels.
@durangraham6549
@durangraham6549 Ай бұрын
I feel that when it comes to volleyball, for hitters the game is a lot of the skill but after you have the skill of timing and the skill of just controlling the ball at the net well wether its hitting, tipping, rolling, jousting, or just placing the ball it really comes down to height of the player and vertical. Having the same skill set even two inches higher than an opponent gives you a crazy advantage. The only thing that beats vertical is good defense. For blocking you need to jump high and on an even harder time crunch depending on how good the setter is with his teammates. at the high level its really either get a crazy vertical or get good at defense which is entirely reaction time, speed, and most importantly learning to read the hitter.
@durangraham6549
@durangraham6549 Ай бұрын
it is more skill but having the vertical helps learn the skill far quicker than not having the vertical
@iammartt
@iammartt Ай бұрын
Skill 100%
@EhhSenpai
@EhhSenpai Ай бұрын
SKILL = 10 JUMP = 7 The goal is always to no let the ball hit the floor. Most points are earned from the other teams errors. Yes attacking and blocking higher jumps are better but you could put 6 50in jumpers (low skill) on one side of the net and expect to win against 6 technically sound average jumpers.
@AndrewHuangKY
@AndrewHuangKY Ай бұрын
Great speculation for someone who isn't a volleyball expert. I would say you're right about the space available is different. I would also add that the consistency of all your jump height and standing vertical is very important. The ability to consistently get to 75-80% of your maximal vert is much more important than 90+% half the time. Also, frequent hard practices is ESSENTIAL for players to have good chemistry and fluid through defense and offense. One jumping session a week will not cut it unfortunately. Majority of vert training has to happen in the off-season. The rest of the time needs to go into skill improvement and team chemistry.
@JakeNorthrupVolley
@JakeNorthrupVolley Ай бұрын
I agree but I think there is an argument to be made for continuing to prioritize jump training for the majority of the season and then peak closer to national qualifiers and nationals at end of the season. During the bulk of the season when you are sacrificing some jumps for weight room work, you are losing some performance in those early and mid season matches but gaining the long term development of players and more success in the end of season, older ages and recruitment results to colleges Also I think even if you are capping jumps at 60% effort at the early season practices both times and maybe do one 60% effort practice and one max jump practice mid season, then two max jump practices late season. While doing the lower effort jumping you can still do extensive serve and pass work, defense, and maybe blocking and hitting on a lower net or regular net but lower jumps.. and playing gamelike at supermax effort with everything else and reduced jump effort. So in a way reducing the focus on max attack jump hits to late season could improve the focus on skill work early and mid season.
@AndrewHuangKY
@AndrewHuangKY Ай бұрын
@@JakeNorthrupVolley good point
@roger4763
@roger4763 Ай бұрын
Love the video! Not actually sure that basketball is bigger than volleyball, according to a couple articles, volleyball actually has an 'estimated' bigger fanbase. Just thought it was funny, thought basket was bigger too. :D
@sxmmy12
@sxmmy12 Ай бұрын
More vball content pls!!!
@igorvengerovsky2897
@igorvengerovsky2897 Ай бұрын
There is one belorussian guy. Babkevich, he is around 6.11 I guess. Really good jumper even for "average vball height(6.7-6.8) he is able to go over huge blockers in Russia..Just because of really good techniques on high contact,fast swing.. if he was about to bounce,even with his reach would get roofed on this level
@peytonheleniak6775
@peytonheleniak6775 Ай бұрын
About a 6/10 for vertical jump and 9/10 for skill. In volleyball your vert means nothing if you can't time your approach correctly with the tempo of the setter. Now if a person were to have a insanely high vert (in my experience this is anything above 37 in.) then this widens the window for error in the timing of your hitting approach.
@theriseoftheking23rd
@theriseoftheking23rd Ай бұрын
Skill can be learned, vertical is a essential gift that can tremendously help you, plus skills as you go, maximizing the potential of your jump and spike
@igorvengerovsky2897
@igorvengerovsky2897 Ай бұрын
Simple answer -its about the same as you described for basketball..You gotta be able to reach at least 11ft to play on a serious level and you could be on the best World team roaster with it and play the Olympic final.Or you could be an amateur with 12+ft. I'm actually talking about people who trained in years of volleyball and were skilled already..
@brayden_bze4986
@brayden_bze4986 Ай бұрын
I would say the skill part is more important. It doesn’t matter if you have high vertical skills; they play a big role for shorter hitters. We have to find a way to be more creative and make the point, like tooling the block, and for blocking, it’s all about timing. I’m 5’10 and I'm decently athletic. I block way taller guys (6’4 and 6’5 hitters), but it would be nice to jump higher to get up with taller players.
@hideaki_n
@hideaki_n Ай бұрын
Jumping high is beneficial, but the skill of timing, approach and making sure the ball is in front of you instead of over you is far more important when hitting. For dunking, most of the time the ball is over you and you just have to reach for the ball and grab it and you can guide it into the hoop But for volleyball, if you spike when the ball is over you and you swing hard, that ball is going out the court. So in most cases when your approach and timing is bad and the ball is over you, you hold back your power on swinging and sometimes you don't jump as high because you realized a bit too late that you're not going to be able to hit it well. So once you get the skills down (timing, approach and ball contact) then your confidence goes up that you know you'll be able to hit it. Then now you can focus on going all out on your jump
@Excelsiorgaming97
@Excelsiorgaming97 Ай бұрын
As a 5’9 AA volleyball player, my skill level definitely matters. But when you face 6’4+ blockers often, having a really good vertical is key to success
@bubbletube636
@bubbletube636 Ай бұрын
As a highschool and club volleyball player on the shorter side (5'7) both technique and jump are important but once you have a Good enough technique and power it's mostly about jump. I jump like 30 inches and have really good technique and power but most players on my team have a way higher reach then me. Getting a higher reach would even the field and let my better technique and power show.
@bubbletube636
@bubbletube636 Ай бұрын
Also like what you were talking about with the constant volleyball and no rest, yes it is a real struggle. I don't have much if any time at all to do weight training throughout the year so it's really hard to try to increase my vert.
@ivanzakharov8832
@ivanzakharov8832 Ай бұрын
As a former player of the Russian youth volleyball team, I can say that skill is WAY MORE important than vertical. But you have to keep in mind that we're talking about two-meter guys :) We took measurements and practiced with jump height gauges - the average jump during the game was about 27 inches. When some players' maximum was 40 inches.
@JohnEvans
@JohnEvans Ай бұрын
Yeah 6 6 with a 27 inch to 30 inch vert that is pretty interesting. To you, I pose the same question as above "Interesting points! So if you had like an 11 foot max touch but crazy shot selection verses someone with a 12'5" max touch, who has a better chance of making it further in the sport?"
@yourmother5810
@yourmother5810 Ай бұрын
@@JohnEvans im taking the 12.5 if its pro level
@theriseoftheking23rd
@theriseoftheking23rd Ай бұрын
Well of course, who doesn’t know that. But vertical is still important, plus everybody just wanna fly that’s for this video.
@greghodges3949
@greghodges3949 Ай бұрын
Any thoughts on how to optimize training/technique for jumping off sand in beach volleyball, as opposed to off a floor indoors? You can't really spring off the ball of your foot with a block step: It would just push sand . . .
@GSH924
@GSH924 Ай бұрын
Yeah the approach is rather different depending on sand depth. Really shallow sand is more similar to indoor but as the sand gets deeper it changes. Shorter approach and more of an up and down gallop into the last two steps so you can jump with more power and less pop off the block. Deeper joint shoes, longer ground contact time. It’s basically exactly what you’re not supposed to do in indoor in an ideal situation
@timonfortas1400
@timonfortas1400 Ай бұрын
20:39 "yeah" killed me HHahahHahahHAhahahh🤣
@Tedkata13
@Tedkata13 Ай бұрын
Can you tell me 5 exercise to jump higher for volleyball players?
@noahrichert807
@noahrichert807 Ай бұрын
Finally noticed the volleyball community following isaiah, very happy haha
@noahrichert807
@noahrichert807 Ай бұрын
Can you make a series of you learning to play volleyball and try to reach a certain level (if you have the time)
@noahrichert807
@noahrichert807 Ай бұрын
Also, to answer your question, I play volleyball in Europe and at a low level, physicality can be very over-powering so if a player hits (not necessarily jump) much higher than the opponents then he'll easily be able to attack and make a difference. But once you start getting to a higher level ( National 3, 2 and above) everyone is already quite high and some old timers that aren't as physical just get you with technique. Hitting becomes much more technical. But there are also a lot of player that get by only with their strength, stephan boyer would be a good example, guys' a beast. Sum up : Technique is huge, extremely, physical is important. As you said, the targets are endless.
@bjoernfischer
@bjoernfischer Ай бұрын
I can only refer to beachvolleyball, as I am only 5'9, my 40 inch vertical is very helpful, but the skill itself is way more important. Having good court vision, having a good hitting technique and also being able to shot the ball over the blocker without even hitting the ball hard. I know players that don't hit the ball hard once in a game and don't jump high either, but they still win the game with pure skill and court vision.
@santex.editss4372
@santex.editss4372 Ай бұрын
As a fellow 5’9 and with a 35 inch vert, I also say that it’s very helpful, but that doesn’t determine your skill and how good you can play. Both are necessary. And I have a question, how much time did you take to get a 40 inch vert? My goal it’s 40 inch too, so what did you do to get there?
@bjoernfischer
@bjoernfischer Ай бұрын
@@santex.editss4372 I always jumped a lot my entire life. I practiced dunking a lot when I was 18 or 19 and also just play beachvolleyball my entire life. Now I turned 35 and the last 3 years I focused on getting strong on my bulgarian split squats and trapbar deadlifts while also doing lots of plyometrics during winter. Just trying to keep my vertical as I get older, so far it worked. :D
@santex.editss4372
@santex.editss4372 Ай бұрын
@@bjoernfischer I see, I started my journey when I was 14 with plyos and jumping, and my vert went up to 20 when I was 15-16 like 26 inches but it didn’t increase for along time, so I decided to get stronger and hit weights and that helped me to get my vert to 30 inches, then again I had a plateau, and I started implementing Olympic lifts such as power clean, and that helped a lot man, I gained around 5 inches for 2-3 weeks, and my vertical still increasing thx to that. Even though, idk what to implement when I hit once again a plateau.
@anthonysantos3021
@anthonysantos3021 Ай бұрын
IMO vert and skill 50/50, I’m a shorter player so I always want to jump higher. I feel like once a player has the skill extra vert will only increase the player’s efficiency to score
@anthonysantos3021
@anthonysantos3021 Ай бұрын
As a vball player I def don’t think about jumping less than max, I’m always jumping at a 💯unless the set is really off, but the level I play sets are good
@DhsmmsKalz
@DhsmmsKalz Ай бұрын
just for clarification.Pre-season i have to get healthy and ready to perform, in season cut volume and maintain and then off season i get better as fast as possible and then reapeat the cycle right?
@JohnEvans
@JohnEvans Ай бұрын
yes! Repeat, not per se
@CaseySchouten
@CaseySchouten Ай бұрын
Experienced player: skills are more important than jump but similar to basketball, jumping ability is an important baseline for potential.
@ericogaranko4902
@ericogaranko4902 Ай бұрын
I play volleyball at the highest university level in Canada, and I would say it’s around 30-70 for vertical vs skill. Yes, vertical and max touch are extremely important and beneficial, but they don’t mean much if you are not a smart player who has the volleyball IQ to use it. Me personally, I am 6 ft 3 and my max touch is 11ft 4.5 in and have around a 39-40 inch vertical, however I still touch on the lower end of my team since I am one of the shorter attackers. I personally rely mainly on technique, such as a good arm swing and using the blockers to tool off of and score points. So, skill is definitely more important, as good arm swing mechanics themselves are more important than how high you jump. Side note: you are absolutely correct about saying something has to give, for me in practices I cannot jump my max jump ever due to just being overtrained and having knee pain/soreness, have to rely on adrenaline in games to achieve that max jump 😂
@ericogaranko4902
@ericogaranko4902 Ай бұрын
As another side note, if you do have a strong max touch for your position, then your ceiling is a lot higher, however you need the IQ and skills to reach that ceiling
@JohnEvans
@JohnEvans Ай бұрын
Awesome feedback! So is your ceiling at this point more related to the vertical component? Like if you could touch 12' do you feel like you could play for the national team?
@ericogaranko4902
@ericogaranko4902 Ай бұрын
I would say at this point yes my ceiling is more limited by my vertical jump. If I could touch 12ft consistently on my spike approach, and my block touch didn’t drop too much from that I would like to think I could, however, I would certainly still would have to get better at other skills to make that jump to the next level: as a left side I have to pass the others team’s serves and at the international level the serves can come at you consistently at around 120-125 km/h (75-78 mph), with the fastest ever recorded being 138 km/h (80 mph), whereas in my Usports league I’d say the average is 95-100 km/h (59-62 mph). Also, I would still need to work on getting a faster arm swing to hit the ball harder myself, as I can only serve the ball at around 100 km/h which probably wouldn’t cut it for an international level jump serve. Ultimately, I think if I could touch 12 foot I certainly would make the NextGen national program which is sort of the training team for the next generation of national team players, and from there who knows what would happen.
@ericogaranko4902
@ericogaranko4902 Ай бұрын
The simplest way of explaining it I would say is for an attacker the most important skills would be #1: arm swing (how efficient is your arm swing, how much velocity can you generate on the ball). Then, #2 is vertical/max touch. And then #3 is kinda all the other skills (passing technique, blocking technique, defensive reading etc).
@Basketknowledge
@Basketknowledge Ай бұрын
Is there an age requirement to sign up to thp?
@martiallife2850
@martiallife2850 Ай бұрын
Yesssirrrr❤❤❤
@Agassi.1
@Agassi.1 Ай бұрын
Max touch can be an absolute cheat code for vball. Ima say a lot of the times more than skill. If you can spike over your blockers its basically changing the whole game. And you make the defensive team to change and adopt to that. So definitely depends how high your max touch is but if you take it to the extreme it can be more detrimental than skill
@lorenzanadunks
@lorenzanadunks Ай бұрын
In my opinion it is 100% the same for volleyball when it comes to skill being more important than your vertical jump. At any high level of volleyball you'll always have guys who can jump prominently more higher than others but that definitely doesn't make them a better player automatically. Most guys who play at the higher level already have a reasonable height to compete which can compensate for some athletic ability they don't have. The guys who are the most smart and skilled are the most successful players for sure, not always the ones who jump out the gym
@VVF0x
@VVF0x 26 күн бұрын
skill is for sure super important in volleyball but you could be the most skilled player and have your max reach only a few inches above the net or not even above the net which makes it next to impossible when you are playing with guys blocking you 50 inches above the net.
@Quinn.CVB2026
@Quinn.CVB2026 Ай бұрын
without a vertical in volleyball, especially in higher levels, you’re going to be stuck on defense, a higher vertical is the key to harder spikes, hitting shots, and actually contributing to a team
@dangeworsky1597
@dangeworsky1597 Ай бұрын
Last time i tried to jump on the program of your sponsor the answer was this : … Seems like I don’t jump high enough to get trained or something😂
@nathan.turner
@nathan.turner Ай бұрын
I believe technique is much more important than vert in volleyball. Somebody with a significantly lower vert, but significantly better technique will be better than someone with opposite traits 9 times out of 10. however, it should be noted that technique is much much easier to teach compared to vert
@joteto3754
@joteto3754 Ай бұрын
Perhaps learn the backrow attack and show us some bangers
@Andyzhangvb
@Andyzhangvb Ай бұрын
Vert ability - 8-9/10 Skill- 9/10 Injury mostly jumpers knee affects Athletes like myself significantly as it prevents high performance training after the 2 or 3rd training that week. I hate jumpers knee fr.
@kylerbarnes826
@kylerbarnes826 Ай бұрын
It's kinda the same as you said for dunking there is a base line of getting over the net but as soon as you hit that it's all about getting around the block rather than hitting over it or something because even if you had 3-4 inch higher vert then your opponent you still wouldn't be able to hit over the block because your objective is getting the ball to the floor not getting up to a rim or in other words they can just tilt their hands back and still block you PS: hitting is not as easy as one would think it would take at least a year of good training to get isaiah hitting cause dunking creates bad habits in hitting
@kylerbarnes826
@kylerbarnes826 Ай бұрын
and what you said for 5,6 players just think about dunking if you had someone who could dunk at 5,6 and someone who was 7,2 blocking them they would have a hard time dunking even if that player was very good and it's the same for volleyball
@sushihusi35
@sushihusi35 Ай бұрын
can thp help with plantar fasciitis?
@JohnEvans
@JohnEvans Ай бұрын
Yep. plenty of times have helped athletes fix it
@Quinn.CVB2026
@Quinn.CVB2026 Ай бұрын
also check out kofi who’s a pro vb player and touches about 12’10
@anthonysantos3021
@anthonysantos3021 Ай бұрын
And jumping for blocks is harder than spikes. Spiking has an approach, blocking may not allow u to have any steps before the jump
@tugrulberkeaksoy4153
@tugrulberkeaksoy4153 Ай бұрын
i think for volleyball 30 inch to 40 inch is huge but 40inch to 50 is not that important in most cases. cause net is very low for this level of vertical. and for most attacks we dont have time for reaching our max vertical so ı would say standing vertical is more important for fast reaction
@tugrulberkeaksoy4153
@tugrulberkeaksoy4153 Ай бұрын
max vertical is probably more important for back line attacks and high balls though
@spencerjones8269
@spencerjones8269 Ай бұрын
The way they use the word "tendon stiffness"... Dunno if they fully understand it. The medical term is used to mean the following: "Now, imagine that you stretch the thick rubber band repeatedly, elongating it to the point where its elastic fibers begin to fray. Eventually, it becomes less elastic and does not completely resume its pre-stretched form. The same thing can happen to tendons. When they are repeatedly overloaded with strain beyond their physiological limits, tendon stiffness is reduced, lowering elastic energy, causing failure and leading to irreversible plastic deformation." Tendon stiffness in the medical sense IS NOT a bad thing, but the opposite! It's synonymous with tendon health; like saying the fibers recover well after load, thick fibers can handle more load, more explosive lengthening and shortening.
@nxzadg
@nxzadg Ай бұрын
I mean skills and vertical go hand in hand. I agree that vertical alone won’t carry you since you’ll be lacking in other aspects of the sport and others will out-skill you even if they don’t have that vertical. THOUGH once you get to a certain high degree of skill, 80-90% of the limiting factor will be the vertical and basically how physically strong you are.
@tim75
@tim75 Ай бұрын
As a person who has played D1 middle position, I can attest to the claims made that the coaches do not give a shit about the long term health of our knees, I have developed horrible knees from all the years of jumping thousands of times per week. I just wish that there were coaches and trainers that gave us education about the three major balances to propelling atheletes to the highest pinnacles of whatever they do. Example: 1. Proper rest and easy days where we practice drills and half ass some of the blocks/jumps on a women's height net for example so we don't need to jump high causing strain. 2. Weight room time where we give it our alls in order to progressively overload our 1RMs in the major compounds that allow us to generate more force against the ground yielding higher verticals. 3. Not allow us to jump more than a scientific given limit, example here is that Major League Baseball substitutes their pitchers out after roughly 100 pitches, why is that? maybe because the chances of injury are simply unbelievably high after this threshold. So volleyball coaches should have helpers that count the number of times a player is jumping and sit that player out after they have hit that threshold, what that threshold is, I have absolutely no clue, but I can say that after doing thousands of jumps per week over half a decade has destroyed my knees.
@mcshuffles4032
@mcshuffles4032 Ай бұрын
Search up Dmitry Aleksandrovich Muserskiy in the Japan League. He’s so tall and jumps alright that versing the Japanese they can’t stop him. That wold be Isaiah.
@sobhannouri
@sobhannouri Ай бұрын
Jump : 7 , skill : 9 ,,, in volleyball history there's goat players that haven't have really high touch but at the end their skills made them the goat of volleyball like Earvin ngapeth ,,, and usa team has Benjamin path who spike at 350cm and shock the world but he wasn't that good for getting point at any situation
@SD-nj5iv
@SD-nj5iv Ай бұрын
Volleyball is very demanding in skill aspect, so you can't just stop playing for a month or more to focus on jumping. I personally train at least twice a week or i will feel extremely rusty and wont be able to play my best, especially when it comes to hitting, becauae you simply forget the timing and approach. Because volleyball hitting aproach is different and is much quicker. So yes, I cannot reduce my total contact times. Currently I am stuck on 22 inch vertical and I am 25 yo and 136 lbs, but my jump even decreased, I used to touch the bottom of a backboard being 181 cm tall, but now for some reason I can't even do that. Its really depressing seeing guys shorter than me being able to touch the rim when I can't even touch the backboard
@igorvengerovsky2897
@igorvengerovsky2897 Ай бұрын
You obviously have the best vertical in the whole world.but try to tighten a rop at around just 10.8-10.9. and hit it hard enough from the perfect set and approach..not tip or swip but actually swing from the ball coming across the court..
@arielfokoua9740
@arielfokoua9740 Ай бұрын
That amount of jumping is definitely not sustainable, I am a prime example as at some point, I just decided to jump as high as I can while both hitting and blocking I was just fine for honestly a year but this beginning of semester was the most injured I have been at the college level while having a 46 inch vertical and I sacrificed blocking where I will jump 60%
@Mygind34
@Mygind34 Ай бұрын
I believe that skills is the most important, but to play at a high level you gotta touch 11 feet
@Whitericee.
@Whitericee. Ай бұрын
wheres the next isometric cycle day 😢
@JohnEvans
@JohnEvans Ай бұрын
On my channel!
@igorvengerovsky2897
@igorvengerovsky2897 Ай бұрын
But that's only one position.. receiver and middle blocker ,way more about abilities..Even in the middle it's where you actually gotta be big..but if you not reading the game,not fast on lateral movements.cant find a quick ball from out of systems sets.Its doesn't matter matter how high u reach
@khangbanger
@khangbanger Ай бұрын
Please play volleyball one more time!!! If you’re a lefty try playing on the right side of the court. It’ll be more comfortable with your approach and hitting
@gemboy2015
@gemboy2015 Ай бұрын
Why you have left hand runup but u are right hand player?
@adamnguyen4517
@adamnguyen4517 Ай бұрын
Dunk approach is more variable than volleyball approach. You can do either or. The standard is right hand run-up for right hand players.
@RD-xp3pd
@RD-xp3pd Ай бұрын
Your training advice is on point, but not really executable at the highest levels. Professional athletes basically play through the whole year ( 9 months for a club and the rest for the national Team with maybe a couple of weeks of). The higher the level the more important the jump height is. Most of the top players are also above 2m tall and have a High standing reach. You need skill, but you cant teach height.
@anthonysantos3021
@anthonysantos3021 Ай бұрын
Volleyball world is big, basketball might be bigger in America but volleyball worldwide is big Bruh
@arif.6466
@arif.6466 Ай бұрын
No, basketball is certainly the more popular sport worldwide. Just search up the numbers.
@hanjiplayer
@hanjiplayer Ай бұрын
@@arif.6466 just googled it, volleyball is more popular worldwide at the number 5 sport while basketball is 9
@lordyt3689
@lordyt3689 Ай бұрын
Yuji has a recorded vert of about 54 inches so id rather listen to him
@jase37
@jase37 Ай бұрын
Zero chance that is true
@lordyt3689
@lordyt3689 Ай бұрын
@@jase37 height: 1,88m; maximum recorded spike height 3,51m do the math yourself
@jase37
@jase37 Ай бұрын
@@lordyt3689 recording vertical has nothing to do with height. You’d have to measure his standing reach vs his maximum recorded spike height
@IB-JAKISS
@IB-JAKISS Ай бұрын
Highest jumper in the world
@gemboy2015
@gemboy2015 Ай бұрын
Max reach depends if player libero or spiker, if spiker, max reach: 8/10 skill: 10/10 if libero, max reach 0/10, skill: 10/10. If no skill u cant play volley, if no jump u use ur brain
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