Cut the stud off and then drill the rest out. Would of looked cleaner.
@AlexGnok2 жыл бұрын
takes ages though
@Daedalus_UK2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexGnok only if you have cheap drill bits
@Daedalus_UK2 жыл бұрын
use cobalt
@AlexGnok2 жыл бұрын
@@Daedalus_UK yeah probably you are right. I don't remember what drill bits I was using, but I was drilling out 4 studs from the dpf filter on my focus and it took me half a day to do it
@Daedalus_UK2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexGnok probably HSS titanium coated which are shit. They polish metal not cut. Cobalt for the win.
@danb45305 ай бұрын
Utilised this method today and it worked an absolute treat, thanks Alan!
@PaweMusia2 жыл бұрын
Great tip Alan! when i did mine downpipe on my Mk3 Mondeo couple years back, nuts on the catalytic converter end were so rotted that they looked like 2 layers of tin foin wrapped around the stud. luckily threads were saveable ;)
@mikeruddy76752 ай бұрын
Just had an exhaust flange stud snap on me. Had very limited access but a reciprocating saw worked a charm. Cut and a few light taps and it was out. Thank you so much.
@alan4x2 ай бұрын
excellent..nice when things work out
@marktompkins851920 күн бұрын
Hey I just tried your method, want to say THANK YOU! Broken stud on the manifold to the exhaust pipe, (1999 Jeep TJ 2.5) just enough room for the angle grinder, then finished the cut with a hack saw blade (hand held). Punched it out, new nut and bolt, only took maybe 45 minutes. Thanks again!
@lilibethdoherty295 Жыл бұрын
This is why High temperature paint is so great, I coat all my cars exhaust parts with it and the metal will not absorb moisture. I have been doing this for decades and have none of these problems!
@vintageallday2771 Жыл бұрын
What type of paint?
@josephhalwagy64352 жыл бұрын
Great seeing you back Alan and thank you for sharing
@kenfiorentini282 жыл бұрын
i cut them flush , drill a dimple into it, then punch it out with a pointed tip on an air hammer
@danieldryden42462 жыл бұрын
OMG! I wish you had posted this video 2 weeks ago! I had the same issue trying to remove the dpf from my 2010 2.0 tdci S-Max. I opted to cut the studs flush with the flange and then drill them out… It worked, but it took me the best part of 4 hours to do 2 flanges. 🤦♂️
@Umski10 ай бұрын
I fear I am taking on a similar problem - I spent 2 hours drilling and have only cut about 2mm so far - busted several smaller drill bits in the process too 🤦♂
@Country_Nasty4 ай бұрын
@@Umskigotta buy the best drill bits. Cheap ones will break your heart half way into a hole
@Umski4 ай бұрын
@@Country_Nasty 😄 yeah I went for a cobalt single of the correct size in the end - it was like a hot knife through butter - have had similar experiences with masonry drills too 😬
@patkelly79992 жыл бұрын
Great job Alan, every day is a learning day, Thank You👌👍
@danielgreenbaum88752 жыл бұрын
Ive always drilled them out but a quick way of getting them always good to learn new tricks and have other options only thing I think would be abit more difficult is trying to grind stub at top getting grinder in but still a very good idea
@dangerdavefreestyle Жыл бұрын
I just got an arc welder. Makes me want to give that quick zap, a bit of a mend and a bit of tidying up. Love the strategy.
@sandy7mАй бұрын
Spilned studs on an exhaust assembly flange. What moron tbought that was a good idea. You had a great solution to the problem which took the issue back to what shohld have been their "day one" nut and bolt
@alan4xАй бұрын
yes nuts and bolts would be much better but I guess its cheaper to produce the studs
@SM-ch2ny Жыл бұрын
Thank you. this method over anything you can get cutting tools in and around the exhaust very easily, but trying to drill it out like some people say “would be better” but like your saying in the video if your gonna do that you need to remove the hole exhaust bit to make that work effectively and/or pray your drill actually fits in that specific area !
@callumcurtis152 жыл бұрын
If you have a acetylene torch I would deffinatly say heating around the stud then one nice whack usualy does it for me .
@jamesporter47493 ай бұрын
That's what I did with a Vauxhall corsa exhaust I changed the other week, heating up the surrounding area around the stud until blood red and used my spring punch on the two studs. They flew out
@robertboykin18283 ай бұрын
I'm 80, retired mechanic, dun fixin that old junk. Now I trade that crap in.
@idunknown75917 ай бұрын
I'll be damned... I have been trying to get mine out on my 98 K2500 4x4 for two solid days. Then I decided to go to KZfaq University. and there you were Alan. As soon as you said cut a relief cut in the flange, I knew that that was the trick. Going outside right now and going to get them both out. Will update in a few.
@mikeberry3042 жыл бұрын
Nice job Alan , I usually cut off the thread , and drill through the stud a couple of times and bolt it back together, at least no damage to catalytic converter either way 👍
@hoojchoons22582 жыл бұрын
Snap, still a twat of a job!
@jedigeekbiker Жыл бұрын
id have done same
@justadreamin1004 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that cause an exhaust leak the way he did it---at least eventually?
@jedigeekbiker Жыл бұрын
@@justadreamin1004 that part is seperate from the exhaust gasket so actually would be ok
@N269 Жыл бұрын
Exactly Mike. By cutting a notch (slicing the wing) will lead to other issues. I'd cut & drill and replace the stud with a bolt and an Aerotight nut. Might as well do same on the other stud.
@andybramwell917910 ай бұрын
Did this today...I tried drilling out but it was woukd have taken hours. I cut a groove with the grinder. Job done. Than you so much.
@makeitpay82418 ай бұрын
you need better drill bits not junk high speed steel those are only for mild steel not hardened studs.
@kookylook20713 ай бұрын
Inductor heater, air chisel. Quick and neat no flange damage.
@alan4x3 ай бұрын
😊
@richardwatkins6725Ай бұрын
Each to there own but that ceramic cat matrix is taking a hammering.
@garybrown55002 жыл бұрын
Top tip Alan. Got to laugh at the people getting all sensitive about the slit left in the exhaust. It can easily be welded! As for drilling the stud well they'd be there a long time. Those studs get bloody hard with all the heat cycles!
@chrisnewell-77582 жыл бұрын
cobalt drill, lube and slow speed lol
@garybrown55002 жыл бұрын
@@chrisnewell-7758 Post up a video show us! LOL
@N269 Жыл бұрын
So, cut a groove/slit, bash the sucker out, can't use a new stud, still need a bolt... oh, yeah, and waste time welding?! Just drill the sucker and use a bolt. What a waste of time! Might have tried a 2-prong puller as a pusher (if it was small enuff to fit in there).
@williamkelly60343 ай бұрын
Good show! I've got to take apart my exhaust to get to the O2 sensor. Exactly the solution that I needed! Many thanks!
@alan4x3 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@gmoney95882 жыл бұрын
Not in our wildest dreams would we be able to retread a stud that had deteriorated to a smaller size and expect it to hold up under the stress of torque and heat and last for any length of time . Replacement was the only option . Although splined studs are not always easy to remove , even when heat is applied , it’s still easier than a threaded stud for removal . I’ve had success on thinner flanges with heat , and I don’t even own acetylene torches but used MAP gas . After heating until it smokes heavily , a socket on the stud end a C press on the other end to produce tension , followed by some concentrated tapping to shock the stud loose . Such as removing a ball joint , readjust tension when tapping and introducing shock to loosen the stud until the splines back out . Before beginning the removal process however , I will try cleaning away as much rust as possible and apply a penetrating oil in hopes that it will lubricate the splines and free up the rust bond as best as possible . You will always want to clean away as much rust from the head of the stud and threads where they go through the hole in the flange so there is the minimal of rust bond for a successful extraction of the stud . Yes , cutting the flange to relieve tension and aid extraction works but I really do try to avoid cutting unless I’ve no choice . That is a healthy sized flange and should be quite strong but heat from the catalytic converter will eventually cause it to bend . Respecting that this is a quick fix when time is of the essence and the exhaust has only a limited time left in this world before your MOT Lads condemn it to the junk pile , it’s what gets the job done . I speak from personal ownership as though it’s got to last twenty years or so since I personally keep a vehicle an eternity as it is anyway . While everyone has their methods , I will say that cutting and relieving will absolutely get the old stud out . Re-welding is not likely to last if that is a cast steel flange . The heat cycles from the exhaust will eventually weaken it . A body can try heat as you’ve suggested and pressing it out but time is always the deciding factor . You’ve got to keep them rolling and quickly , granted . Just hope the MOT lads haven’t a difference with this plan of attack . I should think not or you wouldn’t take this route . Well , to each his own but I will say , yes , this will definitely work . This thick flange will go a while in service with this repair for at least long enough before mileage has this vehicle either parted out or on its way to the furnace . The taxis rack up mileage so it’s a question of whether mileage dictates removal from service or wear and tear does first . Anyway , under the circumstances , this is a quick and acceptable repair for the needs . If all else fails , miss Monica’s input is always welcome ❤️
@trboj5 ай бұрын
The C press on the other end is what i would due
@gmoney95885 ай бұрын
@@trboj Yes , I’ve found that a C press used for ball joints and universal joints to be useful on larger bolts . Smaller bolts , I’d use a press clamp similar to a C press in action . Yes , it’s the method of pressing out a splined fastener that we must use . Shocking the faster out whether on the flange surface or the fastener itself with a hammer or air hammer and increasing pressure of the press will eventually get it done .
@BesprovolkiSvias10 ай бұрын
Here, in the US of A, we use "PB Blaster" to soak the rust before we try these kind of tasks. It is a rust penetrant, works wonders, seeps through seemingly impossibly narrow spaces (microscopic), makes a path for itself by dissolving rust and seeping further.
@user-ye9sn5hp6c8 ай бұрын
I sprayed with PB blaster 3 days prior to the job snapped one side with impact snapped other side with hand tools🤣
@miguelp48127 ай бұрын
Apparently you don't watch Project Farm youtube channel? PBlaster doesnt work nearly as well as liquid wrench or seafoam. You are welcome.
@andrewcheatle46916 ай бұрын
Or homemade ATF/Acetone 50/50mix, works better than any commercial product. Just don't get it in your eyes
@BesprovolkiSvias6 ай бұрын
"Commercial products" cannot be possibly "worse" because those people are not dumb, as follows: if you know about ATF / Acetone mix, this follows that they (them) have known it for centuries. Conspiracy Theory Scientists are the best, they tell us that allmighty "they ("them") have been hiding the best facts from humanity for millions of years. Alien Tech?
@user-yj4ld9mg2b10 ай бұрын
Three of four wasn't too bad to change. The Fourth one i put the 7/16-14 on and tried to clean up the threads because it was stuck. But the threads weren't cleaning up either. So.. it's had various capillary action sprays on it awhile..a couple weeks. The other day a mechanic friend suggested transmission fluid for something else. And I remembered brake fluid and transmission fluid mixed.. and I poured some on and hour ago and it's going to be out in a few minutes. It's loose now. I just have to finish up. But it's a big deal to have air leaks before the oxygen sensor so I wanted to start with good bolts and be able to snug it down good.
@ericjumpelfeaturingjohnnyj41356 ай бұрын
Excellent work! About to go give it a try right now. Both of my studs are gone and require this same surgery. I tried drilling the stud remnant out, but I think the stud is only slightly softer than my drill bit.
@user-wu7rf6kl6j Жыл бұрын
🧐 Each to their own. Cut and drill, brake flaring tools could have been used, splitting fork behind the bolt head, heat treatment, use some imagination. Smacking an unsupported pipe with a hammer will surely lead to more damage. Could have at least put something behind the flange to counter the impact. Sorta like "every action has an equal an opposite reaction"
@guffermeister2 жыл бұрын
Please put the guard back on your angle grinder. I have had slitting and grinding discs let go on me before and been so thankful that I had the guard on to eject the disc debris away from me. Proper eye protection is a must. If you had an accident, you would be putting your employer in a horrible position with liability without the proper guards and basic PPE in place...
@nomaschalupas2453 Жыл бұрын
Well, it hasn’t happened to him yet, so he’s alright.
@johnsaliba5358 Жыл бұрын
@@nomaschalupas2453 I've seen a disk coming apart and being embedded in a mate's face. Gruesome and nearly cost him an eye. JUst because it has not happened yet does not mean it will not.
@Whatta339 ай бұрын
Get a desk job
@benws82462 жыл бұрын
I do love a good flange video. 😁
@DonutTheTrapАй бұрын
Thanks for posting this, I tried it today. Wish me luck and hope it holds!
@joe10toes5 ай бұрын
I love google subtitles..."here we have a mark free Ford mondeo" 😂😂😂
@yoyo7626 ай бұрын
If i cut a thin slot in a flange, i also cut nearly all the way through the bolt too. That way the bolt is in half and comes out with a small hammer hit.
@alan4x6 ай бұрын
yes should do
@drummer4hire24 Жыл бұрын
Awesome tip Mate.... worked like a charm. A bit of Penetrating oil while it was warm may have helped also.
@alan4x Жыл бұрын
thanks drummer
@kevinpalmer74522 жыл бұрын
That’s how I do them Allen like you say quickest and easiest way👍
@colinbryan27384 ай бұрын
BMW Z4 2.5 exhaust studs corrode away and are awful to get out. I cut a slot like you did but space is tight to cut the upper one. Air hammer on them and managed to get them out. Killed an exhaust sensor from all the hammering so had to replace that as well. Stainless bolts fitted to the exhaust flange so they won't rot away again. Getting the broken exhaust sensor out was another pain sensor sockets just spun on the sensor flats ended up chiselling off the top of the sensor to get a reverse twist extractor socket on what was left and a short breaker bar to get it out. Chased the thread out then fitted the replacement.
@pakkelly3 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Arguably the fastest method. Thank you.
@alan4x3 ай бұрын
yeah, that was the whole point to get it done quick with no fuss, cheers
@muffs55mercury615 ай бұрын
Good job. My grinder has done many things for me thru the years. When one goes bad I buy another.
@stephenshippam93742 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, great job well done, all ways enjoy your video's kind regards to you
@jimhenderson2308 Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same thing happen and bent the flange. I'm going to do what you suggest and attempt to bend the flange back. Another way is to cut the stud off and drill a hole thru it and use a mini hack saw to cut a slot in the wall thickness left from drilling the hole. This will spare the slot in the flange.
@frednetherlands8872 жыл бұрын
Good tip. Thank you.
@mcqueenfanman2 жыл бұрын
Good job Alan!
@timhancock66262 жыл бұрын
One of those little electric induction heaters might do the trick by applying heat locally to the stud, but cutting a slot makes complete sense anyway.
@hydewhyte4364 Жыл бұрын
I have one and love it, but to get enough heat into a flange like that you'll be there all day. You can't operate them for more than 1 minute at a time of they shut down and take 5 minutes to reset. So 30 seconds on, 15 seconds off, until you get enough into it .... They're really good for nuts, but anything bigger you really need a torch.
@Peter_Riis_DK2 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell, Alan. Please don't succumb to the vertical video syndrome any more. Anyway; top repair tip, thanks.
@enoz.j3506 Жыл бұрын
I angle gring all the way through the bolt to the back,makes it so much easier,less banging & stressing parts.
@luke2042 Жыл бұрын
Good work!
@Normandy1944 Жыл бұрын
Good idea, though I thought you were going to knock a slot big enough to hammer the stud out downward...hint, another way to accomplish this feat. Also, as far as you only went with the one cut groove, would be to put a hardened pry bar in their to pry it and relieve some of the tension of the rust on the stud and then bashing it out with less concern of bending the flange. Barring the size of the bar, you could apply pressure to the slot and give it a bash with the 3 lb maul.
@Theorangeman.7 ай бұрын
Also put a socket on the flush part of stud and push it out with the vice
@bobabraham50609 ай бұрын
Dremel tool with a grinding blade will make a much thinner slot. Might take a bit longer but it will do the job and you won’t lose as much material.
@nickaxe7719 ай бұрын
What would a thinner slot gain....its still a slot.
@chasmcl422 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Alan.😃
@ianlaccohee71809 ай бұрын
I did an apprenticeship as an hgv mechanic. We used acetylene on an almost daily basis.
@nilsthemis7 ай бұрын
An old clip, but anyway: It's a standard pressed in stud. The best way to remove them is to press them back out. If you can't bring it to a work bench an improvised tool can be made from nuts, bolts and some scrap steel. But OK, that's a bit fiddly. In this case propane torch heating and tapping it with some heavy object backing the flange up is suggested. Banging on things without backing is not very effective and can easily cause damage.
@DevJB3 ай бұрын
YES ! Exactly. :fist bump:
@Wildwwill Жыл бұрын
I've noticed a smaller hammer sometimes works better to break the rust. Get that ting sound rather than a blunt thud. You can see fine particles of rust fly.
@gabeo94749 ай бұрын
This guy is awesome!
@brianhume47432 жыл бұрын
Nice one Alan,just saying from North of Newcastle 👍
@AcuraJ329 ай бұрын
Yes Sir that is how I get them out cut a slice in flange saves alot of aggravation! I subscribed to your channel
@philipnewton79422 жыл бұрын
Allen A good way of getting out of trouble but wont it make the flange week and slacken if the bolt I thought you would fill in the flange where you cut with weld a interesting way though Phil in stoke
@CLIFTYPOPS2 жыл бұрын
Alan how many miles can the 2 litre duratec engine and its gearbox go before they start going bad?
@jasondinscore4251 Жыл бұрын
You fucking rock mate!!! I thought that was going to be a much harder chore.
@alan4x Жыл бұрын
lol, glad it helped
@liviustelianbotanoiu906Ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I really enjoy watching your videos, they are full of knowledge. Would the shocks caused by the hammer not damage the catalytic converter?
@TheDaf95xf2 жыл бұрын
Always good watching top tip Alan mondingo video 😄
@lancedenney24089 ай бұрын
These are super strong heat-treated bolts! use a small gear puller and patience setting up the 2 arms!
@theronwolf32963 ай бұрын
Couple of thoughts Good to see eye protection, but really angle grinder in close quarters should use ear protection as well. Use good penetrating rust solvent and leave in place for several hours. Makes a big difference.
@anthonyblacker8471 Жыл бұрын
One point I'd make would be well even if you have a map gas torch or even propane and not a real acetylene torch, still heat it up with anything, put a big socket BEHIND the head of the stud and whack it with a hammer. A little heat goes a LONG way!! Great work though, I'm about to try this on my friend's Ford F250 where the Y pipe meets the catalytic converter, that flange there.. fun thing is there is a THIRD bolt up on TOP that you can't get to without disassembling the whole exhaust. So fun!!
@oldtimefarmboy61718 күн бұрын
The heat from the exhaust will constantly heat treat the bolts, studs and nuts, and attract moisture that will cause them to rust and corrode and chemically weld the parts together. There should be a rule that requires the manufacturer to use something like anti-seize/never-seize that will prevent the pieces from welding together and rusting and corroding.
@brianmccafferty14705 ай бұрын
Good job Mate!
@paulprescott79132 жыл бұрын
Top tip Alan.
@dave-huston-dublin2 жыл бұрын
Check the lower gearbox mount.
@chefabhishek1623 күн бұрын
Thank you for the idea.
@cisuris Жыл бұрын
“Come through your cat” made me laugh 😅
@alan4x Жыл бұрын
lol
@johnqpublic40126 ай бұрын
There's a video, also on KZfaq, where the guy uses a torch on the flange ear until cherry red, then a couple quick pops on the end of the seized stud with an air hammer. Pops right out. Worth a try.
@alan4x6 ай бұрын
yes, thanks
@harveysmith1003 ай бұрын
Nice tip. The only thing I would add would be to use a 1mm slitting disk
@nickaxe7719 ай бұрын
Great Idea....thanks mate.
@minaminx Жыл бұрын
you could get a puller on that. The drive bolt pushing on stud an hooks over the back
@shawazonfire Жыл бұрын
thank you sir
@seeya20514 күн бұрын
I would have used some penetrating oil on it. Once you got that little crack in the front, I would sprayed some in there. It may have made it easier to get out. It stilled worked out in the end. This my job coming up once the part arrives.I would never have thought about cutting the slot. I may need this trick this weekend if mine break. They do look in better condition than yours, so fingers crossed.
@alan4x13 күн бұрын
Great point!
@minaminx Жыл бұрын
but your solution is still a simple and excellent solution.
@DarrenSteele-mx3ks2 ай бұрын
That was great!
@mixedboi Жыл бұрын
I had the same situation on my 2004 CL7 Accord, I drilled them out and hammered the splines out with a punch, it was a nasty job, 3 studs, not 2. Down + flex pipe unit.
@bobhunt3197 Жыл бұрын
This is great, it can be used in a few applications. Thank you.
@melbournechugging2999 Жыл бұрын
Just heat the back of the stud until it's red hot then use an air hammer to push it out
@ifixeditmyself1926 Жыл бұрын
Magnificent!
@alan4x Жыл бұрын
cheers
@pauljanssen7594 Жыл бұрын
Actually you can get a bolt puller unusual looking tool but instead of using penetrating oil you heat up the area of the stud or bolt use paraffin wax as a it doesn't burn off like paraffin wax. Of course this is pressed in stud usually has one comment said you cut the stud off drill it partly out you say drift to knock it out.
@SJR2752 жыл бұрын
What about cutting the bold off and drilling it out?
@marklittler7842 жыл бұрын
Yes a fine example of a short cut.
@marknucita82842 жыл бұрын
Evening Alan got engine malfunction came up its the P244c code having a Ford part fitted next week £515 fitted thought it was a sensor but think it might be the vaporizer. fault said exhaust temp too low for part filter regen bank 1 is that the part with pipes and nozzle in ya video? Aftermarket parts don't work as you said Regards Mark Black Mk4, you did my tracking
@psdaengr911Ай бұрын
I'd have used an angle grinder to remove the head and projecting stud and drilled it, but this way looks easier. Only issue is that the exposed threads within the flange cut are a rust accelerator, and the location is already known to be a rapid rusting problem. To stop that, maybe apply antiseize on the "entrapped" thread then use JBWeld to stuff the slot with the new bolt in place?
@alan4xАй бұрын
😊
@CrankImmortals6 ай бұрын
I use a ball joint separator to press it out while supporting the flange.
@Mr78Maximus2 жыл бұрын
Alan, you are our living encyclopedy😎
@steved6413 Жыл бұрын
Thanks...I will give it a try.
@steved6413 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again...worked like a charm!
@alan4x Жыл бұрын
excellant
@tcmits36993 ай бұрын
Just don't get who thought a wheel stud was a better idea than a plain nut and bolt🤔Nice job on the simple slot👍
@alan4x3 ай бұрын
nuts and bolts would be so much easier
@noskills95772 жыл бұрын
Respect the flange.
@phreekinoriginal6 ай бұрын
ever tried placing a over sized socket on the head of the bolt and cutting the stud flush and then using a C clamp to compress it out? I have seen it work in certain applications.
@davidhauk4163Ай бұрын
Good job.
@alan4xАй бұрын
Thanks👍
@arthouston73614 ай бұрын
That’s the same English accent as Producer-Director Ben Dover.
@DexterXxX2 жыл бұрын
I had same thing on my DPF in galaxy mk3 2.2 2012 and i did try to knock it out without any luck so cut it short and drilled trough. But my DPF was out anyway luckly and the cat bolts were ok to put new nuts on
@manosparavida35516 ай бұрын
Another method would be a reputable 3" G-clamp with m8 nuts to act as a spacer with an additional nut on what remains of the stud thread and merely wind the clamp in to push the stud out.
@alan4x6 ай бұрын
👍
@markk82259 ай бұрын
Suggestion: After cutting the flange, insert a chisel in the groove and give the chisel a sharp tap or two to slightly expand the groove. NOW the bolt should tap right out.
@alan4x9 ай бұрын
that is a really good idea, cheers
@johnfry87377 ай бұрын
😂if you have a oxy acal torch heat cherry red quench with ice cold water put wrench on turn it out shock. Loosen up every time old welders trick works every time
@elsancho66973 ай бұрын
Do they not have torches where your at? You get that ear cherry red and that stud will pop out no problemo
@scmiata99Ай бұрын
Pb blaster help out alot!!!
@alan4xАй бұрын
😁
@imapadlock2 жыл бұрын
Rather you that me with no guard on that angle grinder 😳🙈