There's a new ability for Hunters that was in spells datamined post on wowhead, not mentioned with details in the article with Blizzard's post. "Emergency Salve: Feign Death and Aspect of the Turtle removes poison and disease effects from you." This looks super useful, and it would've been extremely handy in Brackenhide Hollow or Halls of Infusion dungeons alone!
@doms57552 ай бұрын
That’s what disengaged did before the rework to 90% less damage for 3 sec. Reverting changes
@attinger1172 ай бұрын
It’s in the class tree at the bottom left capstone
@GooseGuzzy2 ай бұрын
that thumbnail goes crazy
@talisredstar15432 ай бұрын
I think the Rolling Peroidic, means, if you reapply the dot before the first dot ends, it transfers the remainder for the first dot into the next one. Similar to how Ret's dots will work, and how many dots work in Retail right now. Which is good, any time people have dots, its always better to carry it over, rather than just waiting it.
@wildchild0003Ай бұрын
This is accurate!
@VooDooSaurus2 ай бұрын
The funniest thing about the notes is that DH hero trees got changes and they just didn’t put them in the notes, which isn’t even the first time they’ve done this. (Also rip shamans)
@kalasmournrex14702 ай бұрын
That apoc change is especially nice in light of sudden doom now popping wounds. I've definitely accidentally dropped to 3 right before apoc on beta.
@gotsnuffify2 ай бұрын
That alcohol analogy was random af lmao, Dratnos you wanna tell us something bud? This is a safe space
@ant.johnstone2 ай бұрын
Why did you skip over the Shaman changes?
@Madsciencegg2 ай бұрын
we have to be next... right??
@sdowncast88712 ай бұрын
@@Madsciencegg remember, take copium in moderation
@Knasern2 ай бұрын
Still 2 months left ..2 months. Wow players nags more then my 4 year old for his Yoghurt in the morning..jeesus christ.
@sylaros93462 ай бұрын
Blizzard just ignored this class on this one, not Dratnos.
@c2dholla2 ай бұрын
@Madsciencegg we r next right.... right 😢
@Nett112 ай бұрын
I saw the notification and briefly thought Dratnos had started covering the trial today lol
@BigBeanBilly2 ай бұрын
Survival hunters rejoice! These changes are amazing!
@moridyn65012 ай бұрын
Can't blame Fronk for this one.
@dratnos2 ай бұрын
youtube bug should fix on refresh!
@needsanameedit49822 ай бұрын
If there's one thing Dratnos has taught me, it is that you can always find a way to blame Fronk.
@butterflysrage2 ай бұрын
That survival mastery is going to be.... interesting, on some bosses (thinking of the spider in Vault of Incarnates). There are so many bosses where the default pet location is half a mile from where the melee needs to be.
@Erixxxxxx2 ай бұрын
‘Wailing arrow’ becoming an option for Sentinel is weird. It should be Dark Ranger exclusive. The ‘Sentinel Owl’ talent from the hunter class tree has been removed - which makes sense as to remove that node as an option from Pack Leader and Dark Ranger as it undermines thematic.
@neptoondigital73212 ай бұрын
Nothing for Enhancement Shaman.. -_- geeez... thats a bummer.
@MrReZx2 ай бұрын
I really hope they give warrior another sweep of changes, or rather, give prot warrior another sweep of changes. For single target we have quite a few choices we can make, but for AoE (M+ specifically, where you need all your cc) it feels like you have more or less no choice what so ever. The build is basically exactly the same as it is in Dragonflight, both in the class tree and the spec tree. In the class tree things have moved around, but you more or less only make 2 or 3 changes compared to Dragonflight (I am also very critical of moving the attack power from armor talent away from the pathing to Avatar since it's mandatory, which in effect locks us out of ever picking Thunderous Roar). In the spec tree the only real difference from Dragonflight is the 5% magic dr on the left side of the tree that will likely be different. We can't even take the talent that gives us 10% stam and armor + 2% haste (worth the equivalent of almost 5 nodes in the class tree!) because the talent selection is just so restrictive.
@frost58902 ай бұрын
hunter need new animations
@domperry41752 ай бұрын
Outlaw currently having that 'always in cooldowns' issue. If adrenaline rush drops - which it will, and does more often when you can't hit a target - it just feels so terrible to play.
@rodneyhorsley86012 ай бұрын
The reduced damage on the mastery for Surv DOES stack, it's just a beefy vers.
@Orthus1002 ай бұрын
Love all the Explosive Shot stuff.
@Mercymurv2 ай бұрын
I don't get it about Lone Wolf .... I remember it was already making me feel bad for choosing it, because pets are so much better than 10% damage for so many reasons. And their reason for this change seems to be .... to make people feel less bad about having their pets out. "You already use a pet because it's the best thing to do, but I'm sure you feel bad about not seeing 10% bigger aimed shots, so we're gonna nerf the already inferior choice to make you feel that much better about already choosing what's optimal!" That's how I read that patch note. I don't see any reason to choose 5% damage over the immense utility that a pet brings in PvE and PvP.
@TheFabulousEnby2 ай бұрын
SV Hunter from a feelycraft POV is much improved! As long as the tuning isn't D Tier.
@MrM4DD0gg2 ай бұрын
well thats hunters op for S1 of TWW wonder if warrior will ever get a re-work
@balhatchet2 ай бұрын
Pretty disappointed in the Warrior changes to be honest. Biggest issue warrior currently has is having WAY too much damage in their class tree (significantly more than any othe class I believe?), and being unable to take much of their meagre utility. Cleave replacing WW makes sense since they removed all the talents that give WW a cooldown, but I'm concerned the increased cooldown on cleave is mostly just going to feel super frustrating when you don't get resets from overpower compared to live. (note: I don't have beta, so this is intuition/speculation)
@JRSoper2 ай бұрын
WFB now functions like Ignite, that's what "Rolling Periodic" means
@dratnos2 ай бұрын
ahhh i see
@FeralKobold2 ай бұрын
I was abouttttt to talk about the 15% PW:L buff being nice for afflicted weeks because it often doesnt one shot the afflicted currently but then i rememberred this is TWW and they got rid of afflicted.
@BrockDaSock2 ай бұрын
What you were saying about Recklessness is exactly right, with the caveat that it doesn't even feel good to be in reck because the cd is just rage gain. Compared to all CDs in the game, it is probably one of the most bland, least impactful in terms of enjoyment. Sure, it might be strong numbers wise, but you don't feel it imo. I REALLY miss battle cry.
@blackyvertigo2 ай бұрын
tested teh changes and outside of better survivability it's...well it's not much different. at least for bm. you get another button to press (if you didn't use explosive before) but the change to the bm tree is nowhere near as good as demo lock got.
@thatepicwizardguy2 ай бұрын
None of the specs are anywhere NEAR warlock or mage. Thats the bar
@rezhoodiez2 ай бұрын
youtube bug should fix on refresh!
@dratnos2 ай бұрын
amen!
@spacecreated68202 ай бұрын
Damn that hunter redesign seems sick af
@_Beep.Boop_2 ай бұрын
-Bring back old survival hunter as a hero talent -Bring back instant proc or walking Aim shot for MM, casting it is a chore
@ImhappyWoW2 ай бұрын
playing fury is like alcoholism based dratnos
@Worst_Casts2 ай бұрын
The alcoholic comparison was perfect for fury warrior, Dratnos hitting that on the spot is why hes the goat
@krucible93692 ай бұрын
Marksmanship shouldn’t need to deal with stupid pets. Just give them Lust without the pet FFS Blizzard
@meanseason30562 ай бұрын
Agreed I thought the choice to play marksmanship was always you gave up your pet for lone wolf and some burst and in turn you lose the pet dmg and pet utility….. but now it seems we are penalized in general for wanting to play MM. tone deaf blizz devs strike again
@LetMeGetAUhhh2 ай бұрын
How would they lust without pet abilities? Clench their cheeks really hard?
@ThatGuyOnFireKnownAsAndrew2 ай бұрын
Not every MM wants lone wolf
@117haseo32 ай бұрын
Considering how many other ways you can get lust including drums every expansion this is a non-issue.
@Titanofagiano2 ай бұрын
@@117haseo3 it is because drums are weaker bl and people push a lot for the bis in everythign to to the keys
@berrystuffarts16072 ай бұрын
Im sure its an unpopular opinion, but I would love to play Murder of Crows on not a BM hunter. I play SV and MM, but not BM. But I always loved the Murder of Crows talent. It sucks to see it give to BM only as a baked in talent.
@billjohnson23072 ай бұрын
I really wish they would just remove Barrage from hunters. As a hunter main that ability is so garbage and so troll. They should just bring back Volley the way it worked in classic where you just put it in a location like a flamestrike/blizzard/rain of fire/ etc and arrows just free fall in that general area. I'm glad to see stampede go ability was practically never picked by anyone that i know of. other then that some pretty good changes glad to see survival get some changes i alrdy loved the spec but its nice to hopefully see it being brought more now xD
@semi65442 ай бұрын
A very good day.
@tony90992 ай бұрын
I dont understand how they pay more attention to unholy dk than frost dk, frost dk just got some diff talents and thats it it didnt change anymore, while unholy is being updated 24/7
@clinkinblah91072 ай бұрын
Finally Hunter!!!!!
@C.Krisztián2 ай бұрын
Im rly happy with shadow priest Mind games changes ❤
@timothykrzywonski2 ай бұрын
Is rolling periodic not how holy fire works?
@XCeazyX2 ай бұрын
Does anyone here even play shaman? I swear I rarely ever seen anyone on this class all xpac and when I played it, it seemed really strong and well-equipped with answers to pretty much everything any dungeon had to throw at me. Shrug.
@markuslc18882 ай бұрын
SV hunter seems to get a very heavy uptime dependent spec, which i don't like at all
@dennyahh2 ай бұрын
Hope the spearhead change makes it viable or more viable than coordinated assault for patchwerk raid. i like coordinated assault for mythic+ but prefer spearhead for raiding.
@ethanavrigean67342 ай бұрын
More than likely you'll run both, run the 2min cd CA and spearhead after 10 sec
@AB-ps4wq2 ай бұрын
hunters got better at surviving 1shot. not if they happen each 30 seconds on a long boss. Also 3rd boss from Nokud Gale Arrow damages through the turtle and can 1shot on high enough keys :)
@rjbenoit882 ай бұрын
Did they take Shamans out of the game? There's never anything on Shammy, /sigh
@michaelfarnes40112 ай бұрын
What do people want to change about Shaman? I see a lot of people saying it needs changes but not what's wrong with it.
@jakeparkbench14252 ай бұрын
@@michaelfarnes4011 The Class and every spec tree is filled with 2 point nodes eatting up tree space while being paired with many dead nodes meaning you only have one way to build while often taking those 2 pointers since you don't have better options. The class tree is filled with underpowered crap making you mostly build you tree the same. Enhance has massive target cap issues making it only good in raid, and being capped at 5 it often still does less than uncapped classes. Ele is overly tier dependent and forced down rigid fire or lightning only builds, made worse with the hero talents. Restro has thee most amount of 2 pointers of any healer and also the highest number of active skills in the tree. despite this the 2 pointers are often the only things worth grabbing and while it has 15 active skills in the tree, nearly half are weak and never taken.
@minimcune2 ай бұрын
That's what hunters said until today too. Than they got proven wrong. So maybe chill
@beastlyshotzful2 ай бұрын
@@minimcune hunters were informed ahead that something was coming. Shamans have not. Also the shaman dps specs are also some of the most complex trees requiring drastic rework to make the damage types interact or have synergy. It is increasing looking like we are going a full expansion plus without any changes outside of mild individual talent tuning and shift of three talents in the class tree. Last major changes to ele and resto happened in dragonflight beta.
@beastlyshotzful2 ай бұрын
@@jakeparkbench1425 plus the whole, only class in the game that doesn't have a raid buff thing.
@kirikaueno13272 ай бұрын
imnotahunter has approved this video
@arctodus85362 ай бұрын
Dratnos: "Fury warrior players are alcoholics!"
@semi65442 ай бұрын
Hunter defense wasn't bad, but it getting better is awesome.
@thatepicwizardguy2 ай бұрын
No it was really bad for a 1 shot meta especially.. you had 2 long CDs to live through things and then purely your HP after that with reactive heals... if a fight lasted too long (they always do on higher keys) youd rot out unless you had an insane healer. Absolutely NEEDED the second charge
@semi65442 ай бұрын
@@thatepicwizardguy -- I'm not saying the 2nd charge won't be amazing. I'm saying I didn't feel like I needed it. I mythic raided on SV. My guild made it to Fyraak. I never had any issue living. I know there were some points in M+ where your survivability is tested but as SV I felt alright. I can't speak for BM or MM but as SV I felt alright. Maybe the Vers we took last season bumped us up. Sometimes taking the Fort pet for more HP and a personal rally also helped. Exhilaration always felt like it was up. Defense just felt alright. It is a personal opinion.
@Manzanahh2 ай бұрын
@semi6544 nah it was bad needing externals or having tenacity pet in high keys, even a def trinket. in raids it doesnt matter as much
@ytubestolemyhandle2 ай бұрын
I was hoping they finally get rid of Rapid Fire, as the ability looks absurd (we're using BOWS, CROSSBOWS and essentially MUSKETS, we have no business shooting at assault rifle speeds!), they should've just replaced it with a heavy DoT or something. But then again, whole MM is kinda absurd (come on, how the F would you ricochet arrows off enemies in the first place for Trick Shots? Or fire a volley, or a barrage? The only believable sources of AoE were either nerfed or given mainly to other specs (explosive shot, grenades/traps). I for one thing MM as a spec should have something that makes multi-shots a bit costlier but deal a fckton of damage (maybe with a proc that makes it free and leave a DoT for a dps spike) or plain have Salvo on a 8-10sec CD to spread Explosive Shot on every pull, and remove all the absurd gimmicks like Volley, Trick Shots, Barrage and other stupidities... Instead, we're getting even more Rapid Fire.... ffs, this is exactly like frost DK D'n'D dependency, blizzard is just clinging to their nonsense no matter what people say. Looks like I'm not playing MM on launch. It was always kinda bad early, what with zero defense, trying to kill more than 1 mob at a time felt terrible and probably left you dead anyway cause you can't even do anything AoE-wise until you group them up, but yeah.... I think I'm playing BM or heck, even survival instead.. MM famously doesn't play all that well until very late into an expansion when you finally get some secondary stats to good enough levels
@Lindforce12 ай бұрын
Quality check Mr Beardnos
@dratnos2 ай бұрын
youtube bug should fix on refresh!
@palfotta2 ай бұрын
So after watching the whole video, I have to say Blizz devs have zero idea about the hunter problems. We got some cool sounding changes, but also: - we still will have literally zero utility /so if hunter wont be top dps they still wont get any invite to any m+ group/ - we still wont have pet independent bloodlust (which is our only "utility" , but we are the only class in the game who actually lose things like damage or health and def cd by using it) - we still will be forced to use tenacity pets (max hp + def cd) , there will be more pet/pet cd rework Atleast they did something about the dogh1t defensive part.... So It will be fun (maybe) but still dogsh1t. Great changes!
@Vaffel912 ай бұрын
Im just waitng for the Ele shaman rework
@raiden69222 ай бұрын
your going to be waiting for a long ass time my guy. game will die way before shamans get reworked
@hvdiv172 ай бұрын
if pvp is your thing Sentinel mm hunter is looking stupidly op x2 survival of the fittest 30% damage reduction and the 10% shield you can kite people for days.
@doms57552 ай бұрын
Ehhh arena that doesn’t exist. Every melee class have a lot mobility to close the gap.
@tassiopbc2 ай бұрын
Affliction fully nerferd and hunter got 2 reworks in less 6 months... thanks blizz
@robusmc17132 ай бұрын
Bruce Lee Dratnos
@theannoyedfiremage87212 ай бұрын
As someone who is quite fatigued from trying to find a class/spec that I don't have to "babysit/micromanage" cooldown windows (typically represented by a bunch of separate abilities I'd have to add to my action bar) and DoTs: does this mean BM is no longer an option for me when TWW drops? I haven't touched the class in almost a full year so I am unfamiliar with the reality of the situation. I struggle IMMENSELY because I suffer from information overload and try to take as many passive talents as humanly possible (minus things like an interrupt because that's such an important thing, especially for solo play). I am also a 20-year mouse-clicker. Keybinding is not possible for a fossil like me. I may only be 35 but my brain literally cannot convert over and learn keybinding. If it was a mandatory, hard-enforceable status IRL, I'd have to literally unsubscribe for this disability of mine. You may think I'm exaggerating that I "can't" and mistaking it for "I won't" but, please trust me on this, my brain is not wired that way. I just want to be able to play something that isn't completely CRIPPLED by the fact I have to make sacrifices based off of how I am handicapped in regards to damage output. I don't like being carried through group content but there is so much social pressure to put up ridiculous "ideal" numbers in PvE content in WoW in a PuG environment that it feels like I'm being shoved away from this game I've been loyal to since Vanilla. With many specs/classes in the earlier years of the game, there was reasonable wiggle room and variance but as things like DPS meters and other metrics become more "standard" and normalized, it's simply reached a point of hostility and I need to know what I CAN play which are friendlier towards people in my sort of personal situation so that I'm not mercilessly berated and insta-kicked when I try to do group content.
@doms57552 ай бұрын
Do you have a mmo mouse?
@TheGrinder_272 ай бұрын
Finally I don’t have to roll a mage
@Grag3032 ай бұрын
Nope, do not love the nerf to lone wolf. We want lone wolf to allow us access to lust. Lean in more into the lone wolf play style please!
@thatepicwizardguy2 ай бұрын
Yup its dogshit.
@ALC0LITE2 ай бұрын
Yeah this is not the way. Actually worse than if they didn't change anything. You still have the janky fuckery of having to summon, dismiss and lust right before dismiss ends. The 10% damage loss was not the reason people were complaining
@snivels2 ай бұрын
Tone-fucking-deaf this company
@Zikkar2 ай бұрын
Hunters always bitching about something
@c2dholla2 ай бұрын
Hunters don't want pets now. This is something I hope they never listen to but instead I prove the way the per works, pets r very outdated still 2004 functionality
@Spyger92 ай бұрын
"I don't do any martial arts or anything like that; I don't know if you can tell." We can tell, lol. But there's a difference between familiarity with actual hand-to-hand combat vs the supernatural martial artist fantasy.
@datmeern84042 ай бұрын
Dratnos confirmed, Warriors are raging alcoholics.
@PozitronCZE2 ай бұрын
rip Rogue... no changes... no communication... rogue Dev is overcooked, he didn't fix any core issues with rogue design and trees...
@Gordonfreems2 ай бұрын
mfw there is not even a shaman section
@Danexar12 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see the hunter changes, but isn't the defensive kit of hunter too strong? Survival of the fittest 2x, exhil, turtle, feign death 30s (which is op AF), pet hp buff? Everyone rejoicing, but I don't think this is particularly healthy.
@havtor0072 ай бұрын
Hunter needed the buffs. If hunter defensives was stronger it might have been meta at one point in dragonflight but that was never the case. And also do not worry of the pure dps classes hunter will always be bad.
@petefitz90922 ай бұрын
I, for one, am shocked, shocked, that you don't do any martial arts.
@TheGraveyarder2 ай бұрын
that jade chain lightning talent is gonna be more useful for brewmaster than it is for windwalker tho
@vincenthammons-kd9du2 ай бұрын
dark ranger still sucks got it
@glarthir22132 ай бұрын
Nice changes for survival but will miss the multi-coloured bombs from the old wildfire infusion
@psjpocco2 ай бұрын
Rename power of the thunder king to unlimited power and make it insane.
@RhodesianSuperiority2 ай бұрын
Okay Palpatine 😂
@Perways2 ай бұрын
I don’t know what the Hunter and rogue devs are doing tbh…. Their design philosophy clearly shows that they are so out of touch with the class.. I mean compare this Hunter passive trees with mage or warlock -.- so disappointed….
@Dan-Scott2 ай бұрын
Hey dude I'm a Hunter! LMK if you need help
@wanderer9772 ай бұрын
No sound dude?
@dratnos2 ай бұрын
youtube bug should fix on refresh!
@attinger1172 ай бұрын
RIp shaman
@Dadbod20192 ай бұрын
Who is this guy? He does not match his profile pic he looks older
@sllll74572 ай бұрын
is there a beta version of the game where we can try these things?
@needysleddog87242 ай бұрын
Yes
@KC-py5vq2 ай бұрын
It would've taken you less time to search this question on Google than to post it here. Do you live under a rock??
@gunshin82442 ай бұрын
@@KC-py5vqDamn why offended
@sllll74572 ай бұрын
actually not taking longer time to put a comment here while getting the idea of that existing but the real question is why would you even type that?
@ztormur65042 ай бұрын
all i see is '' % Increased damage '' how incredibly shallow and uninteresting...
@jordansyndicate83582 ай бұрын
???? mindgames is one of my favourite spells?????nieojmwwfiokenwgn regn ieron
@RED--012 ай бұрын
LOL hunter one of the beafiest classes? IDK where. You miss 1 defensive and you die.
@MrRealtorGuy2 ай бұрын
Right? lol I gave up playing Hunter in PvP for that exact reason. Especially with Warrior and DK combo, crap was annoying.
@thatepicwizardguy2 ай бұрын
Yup running out of your TWO real defensives is horrific. You can bear for 20% max hp but you better be full hp when you do it to try to live something big... 1 extra charge of SotF is decent (not amazing) but no other real changes to defensives or useful utility yet means the class is still absolute dogshit. Passive damage nodes are fucking meaningless
@doms57552 ай бұрын
@@MrRealtorGuyskill issue
@painfullyavarage43162 ай бұрын
Guardian still has zero lines of text from the entirety of alpha and now a week of beta, they are doing an update for literally every spec so there isnt a reason guardian would be missed but still, feelsbadman
@MysticSquare2 ай бұрын
Wait so you dont do martial arts? you look like a Kung-fu master
@sylaros93462 ай бұрын
No shaman? not even comment "we will have update soon"? nothing? .. what a company.. I love how ignorant someone can be.
@GUTAMAYAx2 ай бұрын
Ummmmmm... Are we not going to talk about the 80% dmg reduction on Steel Trap??
@dratnos2 ай бұрын
tbh i haven't seen anyone using it so wasn't sure what it was for - looks like it's an MM raid talent for PvE but is otherwise for PvP? not sure what to think, what's your take?
@BushesDid9112 ай бұрын
@@dratnosI only play PvE but yeah, it was technically the highest damage node for Single Target but it was not fun to use at all. I’m assuming it’s moved higher up the tree too. Good riddance. Steel trap sucked.
@GUTAMAYAx2 ай бұрын
Survival hunter doesn’t feel that good on beta at all. Mainly in PvP. Cc is good though
@Chunks_YT2 ай бұрын
Soundge
@dratnos2 ай бұрын
youtube bug should fix on refresh!
@luqmanhaqim80872 ай бұрын
love the fire mage shade. it’s an overrated spec with mediocre damage and defensives
@Spectt842 ай бұрын
Hey guys, I'm here for the Hunter Biden update... Where is it? This is only wow talk.
@StarlessSky20002 ай бұрын
With the amount of whining Shamans have done over changes that are obviously coming soon, I hope their whining is justified and nothing gets changed
@Linteeee2 ай бұрын
when you dont know shit just dont spend energy on comments
@dark9nine2 ай бұрын
I know you want to be positive and all, but lets not fool ourselves. Survival mastery is PURE SHIT.
@BushesDid9112 ай бұрын
Depends entirely on scaling. It isn’t particularly thematic but if it’s juiced it’ll be good.
@thatepicwizardguy2 ай бұрын
MM and surv are still shit after these changes. bm has barely changed and is clearly still king... We need WAY more changes still.
@doms57552 ай бұрын
@@thatepicwizardguyfor pve or PvP?
@cyndrigaming2 ай бұрын
Hunter weak defensively? Good lord must not be playing it right lol I'm damn near unkillable in most situations.
@HermitOser2 ай бұрын
Survival still abysmal
@gampie132 ай бұрын
It will be as long as it's staying in melee
@ALC0LITE2 ай бұрын
Problems with MM have not been addressed. You still need to summon pet, dismiss pet and cast lust right at the last second of dismiss. Trick shots still does fuck all to 2 targets. What the fuck Blizzard 😂 Survival changes look interesting though!
@ParthPatel-bh4ki2 ай бұрын
welp hunters the new meta next expac - gl in arenas everyones - gonna be a hunter every match
@michaelwhatley2 ай бұрын
Hey Marks Hunters. We are gonna nerf you by 5% and you’re gonna like it.