I Ate & Trained for the Victoria Secret Fashion show *Toxic or Iconic* 2023

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I Ate & Trained for the Victoria Secret Fashion show Toxic or Iconic 2023

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The grip the Victoria secret fashion show has on Gen Z & millennial woman needs to be studied. So many of us fell down the rabbit hole of googling "what does a Victoria secret model eat in a day" "Victoria secret model workouts" etc. After being called out for its lack of diversity the show ended. Several years later we are seeing it coming back rebranded and it got me reflecting on the last 10 years since I first started watching the spectual. Welcome to episode #44 of my wellness diary, enjoy!
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@Valerie.E.Mellon 11 ай бұрын

I worked for VS in 2013, I grew up watching the show and I was obese as a teen, was thin and fit until I was 27 and then became morbidly obese again and am trying to get back to where I’m happy with my body, which for me, involves loosing 100+ lbs. The VS Angels never made me feel bad about my body, regardless of my own size, I always saw them as aspirational because I knew they worked hard for their bodies and I knew I could work hard for my own body whatever that looked like for me. The Angels weren’t robots, they are human women and one of the reasons the Angels were a coveted contract for models was that because they were more muscular compared to other models it sometimes impacted their ability to work for other fashion brands. I think VS and the Angels are a complicated subject matter because their rise in popularity and the public disliking them also comes with a rise in obesity for the US and the Angels occupy a weird mental space for a lot of women as a result. Love you Keltie!

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this perspective Valerie! That’s such a great insight linking the rise in obesity also at the same time to VS angels rise, I hadn’t linked those 2. Love that you were able to separate the angels look from your own, such a mature & educated realization 👏🏻 Seeing muscle on them was so empowering back in the day!

@vv-yz3qu 11 ай бұрын

i appreciate your response so much you have no idea i'm happy i read your perspective you are also motivating me & allowing others to hear about the VS angels trials as well people forget that they are in a business it's not easy for them either being a standard or a niche whithin the modeling world much love ❤

@MarianaFranco1 10 ай бұрын

Yesssss. People have a hard time understanding me when I say how inspiring I used to find them (instead of toxic). And I’m sad that the new show is nothing like the old ones. So sad. I miss it. And I miss the glam, the glitter, the fun, the music ❤️ I used to feel like “omg, I can be strong, sexy, feminine and gorgeous” and not like in a bad way. It’s sad really. And it’s upsetting because we know they were doing awful things to keep the image going, but is like sad they just ditched the show for this documentary. I’m a white Brazilian woman, so the whole “representation” (which is obviously necessary) doesn’t impact me as much, but here everyone is so freaking mixed and there were a bunch of Brazilian women there, so that kind of represented “me” as well… like, I get it. But couldn’t they just comeback with the show by expanding the models shapes and colors? 💔

@colleenbloeser4226 7 ай бұрын

For me it was similar to Barbie dolls. I never wanted to necessarily look like them, but I thought they were beautiful and loved admiring them

@Ra_Yoga_Bodywork 7 ай бұрын

I love this and although I was a relatively average weight, I agree about finding them aspirational. I also realized there's an aspect of "genetic luck" to have that type of figure.

@elisebeam5418 11 ай бұрын

Here's another angle to consider, since you're looking at this from all angles. There's a lot of us who came from very conservative religious backgrounds in which we were taught that our female bodies were dangerous and there was shame in being seen. At the final fashion show in 2018, when Leela James opened the show singing "This Is Me," that was one of the most beautiful and empowering moments of my life. As Taylor Hill stood there in the shadows and Leela sang "I won't let them break me down to dust, I know that there's a place for us, for we are glorious" and then Taylor Hill stepped out of that shadow in all her feminine, badass, sexual glory, I sat there staring at my tv sceen and sobbing in liberation. There needs to be more conversation around women embracing their sexual energy for themselves. We can be sexual and beautiful for our own gaze, not for the male gaze, but for our own. It's when we celebrate our bodies on our own terms that we find our power.

@MackenzieTurner0 11 ай бұрын

We need to bring back the 2012 KZfaq style with a 2023 twist! I loved this 🤩

@kiki-hj4xw 10 ай бұрын

i agree 100%!!!!

@JennaLeighhh 11 ай бұрын

The whole eating pizza thing: I just watched a video essay on the Gilmore Girls and how they are super thin and eat all of this junk food constantly/eat more than the men in the show and also don’t work out. It was definitely a weird trend at the time

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Oooo I’m going to look for that video essay thank you 🙏🏼

@Carmela_Falco 11 ай бұрын

Yup funny I’m rewatching that show right now.

@GuidetteExpert 11 ай бұрын

I actually know people that eat pizzas and stuff that look like that. ITs all about balance in lifestyle.

@magdalenapichler4182 11 ай бұрын

Lorelai ordered junk food or made poptarts. She miraculously had a happy and healthy child and herself was in great shape. They always made fun of that "miracle".

@colleenurquhart4558 11 ай бұрын

I’m rewatching that show now and had the same thought, that is the ties to emotions and food. Ugh never picked up on it before but this time around it’s made me pause and think wow what inconsistent and crazy messaging I was getting as a teen and young adult.

@x3lea866 11 ай бұрын

Sometimes I think VS gets an unfair amount of backlash. I’m glad to see diversity is becoming the standard in fashion, but the reality is modeling is inherently elite. Not everyone can be a professional athlete in the same way not everyone can be a professional model.

@cactusrose6646 10 ай бұрын

This 100%.

@jemportal4166 10 ай бұрын

That's just as subject to change as anything else.

@danielleandersen3639 11 ай бұрын

Growing up in this era being in middle school/ highschool i had less association with body image and more association with popularity / social standing. I saw the angels (and the girls in highschool who wore pink / VS products) as the pinical "cool girl" so the pressure was less "how to look sexy and thin like a VS model" and more "how to be popular, successful and confident" which in retrospect was pretty socially isolating until I accepted it's also "cool" not to be the "cool girl" 😂

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Growing up is realizing the “uncool” people when you were younger were actually always the coolest 😂

@lisanadile4688 10 ай бұрын

I grew up with the original supermodels-Naomi and Linda out-loud proudly saying, “I eat fine, but I admit that I don’t eat everyday.”

@Wanderingplumeria 9 ай бұрын

Keltie getting chills when her friend said she felt confident enough to wear her hair naturally, made me like her even more! Keltie- It was beautiful that you realized and felt how big of a deal that was for her.

@p.granatum 11 ай бұрын

i am a 5'2" girl who is naturally slim with some curves. the amount of time i have spent googling how to look like emrata or romee i would be embarrassed if someone calculated that amount of time. but at the same time i love elsa hosk i love how the conversation about working out has expanded. so i agree it is a lot of mixed feelings and i would love to see you dive into it more

@Michelsea13 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for bringing so much nuance to this conversation. It's a reflection of your maturity, deep reflection, and intelligence. Your interview with the young woman from your co-working space really highlighted that something could be both empowering and problematic simultaneously. I appreciate your voice in the health and wellness space.

@Studio_Chadwick 11 ай бұрын

I was obsessed with the VS fashion shows, if anyone had asked me as a teen what i wanted to be when i grew up, it was a VS angel. Not that i ever thought i could but i wanted the sparkly bras and the wings! So much so that I think it had a massive influence on me career wise, I went on to study lingerie and swimwear design specifically and have worked in the industry for almost 10 years now. Having worked alongside some people who worked at the VS head office during its peak it was fascinating hearing some of the stories. I think I was lucky as I loved the fun of the shows and the designs and that was what had my full attention, as aware as I was of the body image part I grew up in a skinny dancers body. However I know for a lot of my friends and women generally it was so so toxic for body image and I think for many they will never change their minds on their feelings towards VS, and why should they when it did do so much damage.

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your journey! I LOVE that those iconic wings inspired your own career 😍 such an absolute bucket list item to wear a pair of those, I was obsessed too!! So glad you were able to find creative inspiration from the show

@Smittenhamster 11 ай бұрын

I think VS walked so fenty could run. VS doesn't really have a presence in Europe so it didn't impact me much but I specifically remember watching a video of the model you showed when referring to Models being allowed to have muscle tone (forgot her name) doing a kickboxing workout and doing like a trickstunt thing where she spun around and kicked bottles away and...it was the coolest thing ever! She was so happy she made it because she had trained a lot to be able to do it and as a tomboy at heart I was happy that this ultrafeminine supermodel was allowed to.embrace and show her tomboy side as well. Now that I'm much older I have less problems with showing all my sides as a woman and just...person..but it was such a journey and this little clip was one of many that showed me that being feminine and badass is not mutually exclusive.

@ComfyGirlCurls 10 ай бұрын

This video is SO THOUGHTFUL. So well done! And thank you for the chat--no idea walking into the studio that morning that SO MANY buried memories would be brought up about my time at VS. There's so much nuance in these things, and it's easy to say something was ALL bad. Even just reading these comments so many other angles I hadn't considered when thinking about how people would have experienced the brand and the show. 💜

@robintisabird1566 11 ай бұрын

I was definitely a teenager that was completely obsessed with wanting to look like a VS model, I would stare at that freaking catalog every year. I was underweight, but I carry my fat in my stomach and arms. so hello body dysmorphia and hiding in a hoodie. ironically, I had a period of not being affected as much by my dysmorphia when I worked at Victoria’s Secret in my college years after my husband encouraged me not to wear the hoodie 24 seven. Being in that environment definitely helped me have more confidence, and we got free bras and undies!🎉

@janellebatta4126 11 ай бұрын

I stopped watching and shopping VS because it felt way too “through the male gaze” for my comfort. I got boobs in elementary school and was objectified and sexualized by men way too young. That made me really uncomfortable with imagery that catered so explicitly to the male gaze that I turned away from VS early on.

@danijelaolds2216 11 ай бұрын

Yes please go into this more! I know for a long period of time I was obsessed with how to look like a VS angel. My boyfriend at the time even bought me ‘wings’ for Christmas one year. It was quite toxic for me because developed a really bad relationship with food to the point where had no energy. Am past that now and religiously eat carbs (carbs are life)! The angels are stunning and can only imagine the pressure they were under to look a certain way. Thank you for doing this video you are amazing 💛 x

@AnxMa 11 ай бұрын

Really amazing channel. Just wanted to share, from my xp; as someone who has battled insecurities and had a - modest - modeling career, I just wanna say to anyone who's ever been a victim of hate / violence because of their appearance, gender, orientation, race: DO NOT ever let a hateful notion 'there's something wrong with me' sink in. Trust me, it's a recipe for self hatred. When we suffer and we need a break, it's only natural to think: maybe if I wasn't 'different', if I was 'normal' I would be accepted. No, haters will always find something else to prey upon. I've always had kinda androgynous look, which was a fuel for bullies when I was growing up. I embraced it, used it to my advantage in my acting / modeling career, I was almost the face of Leon in these new Resident Evil games :) Beware of extremely toxic people around you who can see your potential and value but will drag you down with intent and hideus determination, when they notice a slightest sign of insecurity.

@renkf7 10 ай бұрын

I used to love the VS fashion show, first of all sparkle sparkle bras, love that, but also the models inspired me to want to keep fit. I think I was fortunately someone who could look at them and accept that we lead very different lives and I could never look like them exactly, based on my build and schedule. But I completely see the negative impact of it all and it absolutely could not continue remaining as it was. I was just fortunate I was able to stay in a different type of mindset and keep a realistic expectation of myself at that time, so luckily didn’t suffer any negative mental health consequences. It excites me that it’s coming back in a much more positive way, I actually had no idea so thanks for the heads up ✨ love your video and your vibes as always 💖

@cassiec9965 11 ай бұрын

I'm so torn on this, for many reasons, because I love your videos. One of my pain points with them is their "size inclusivity". I'm a small person with a large bust, I've never been able to wear their bras. It's hard to see such a large company cash in on a woman's femininity and be left out if you know what I mean? They took a standard, limited size range and branded it as sexy. A lot of us don't fit that range, and never will. Where does that leave us? Unable to envision ourselves in the marketing of a sexy woman. As fun as the flash and spectacle is, it's just that.

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Ooo thank you for this perspective and reminder! When/if I do the documentary I’m going to look into their size range. As I agree a company of that scale has the manufacturing that it should allow all shapes and sizes

@megshuston2132 11 ай бұрын

I totally second this - for me it was when I went into the store as a tomboy but secreted closeted wanna be sexy women and was told they don't make a cup bras. It was clear to me that this paragon of what was sexy did not include me. It was devastating. VS was what sexy was + VS didn't bother with A cup bras = A cup is not sexy = I was not sexy. @@KeltieOConnor

@kathleensolomon9041 11 ай бұрын

@cassiec9965 This comment hits me, too. Right in the boobs. 😂 The one thing I will tell you is that once you discover better lingerie, you’ll never look back to VS. I’m not rich, so i have to search for deals, but find your brands and your favorite styles and build off of it. And if it doesn’t work, let it go immediately on a resale site.

@meganchabot 11 ай бұрын

Oh I LOVED Victorias Secret growing up. It was like the mecca. Every year in college our entire dorm building would have a watch party of the show. Literally was like a superbowl party lol same with the Miss Universe pageant 😅 in highschool up here in WA the unofficial uniform was a Northface jacket, ugg boots, and PINK yoga pants 😂 with Love Spell perfume

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

I swear you stole this out of my diary HAHHAA cause literally my EXACT SAME EXPERIENCE

@kate-ne 11 ай бұрын

Keltie, love the video!! I always love when you step back and have a real conversation in these style of videos. Completely unrelated but have you ever tried rock climbing? I love when athletes try something completely different from their usual workout style. I think you could really be good at it. If you know who the creator Alayna Joy is, shes in the Vancouver area and is big into climbing. I feel like both your personalities would mesh so well 😊

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for commenting that Kate! So happy you enjoy this style ☺️ Fun fact I come from a rock climbing family! My brother does it a ton, and my cousin is a tour guide for ice climbing!! I’m the black sheep of the family that has only done it a few times and not as a hobby 😅 I think it’s time I live up to my family name 😝

@katem2411 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video. I grew up in the era of Victoria Secret, and that whole era was insane as far as unrealistic/limited beauty standards. The VS models were actually 'healthier' looking than the heroin chic model that was everywhere else. That whole culture definitely contributed to my ED and low self-esteem, although I didn't connect the dots at the time (I just thought I was defective). I'm so thankful that things have started to change, and I've learned to be more accepting of myself and others. I'm glad VS has decided to evolve, but the beauty culture then and now is really nuanced and complicated. A documentary on this would be fascinating.

@Udontkno7 10 ай бұрын

Yeah! That weird realization when you know that all these tan, blooming models were just as equally underweight as any heroin chic 90s model á la Kate Moss.

@GuidetteExpert 11 ай бұрын

VS was so glam and pretty. Loved their lip glosses and perfumes.

@Elizabeth-ey7yt 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for talking about how body types are different! I’m 5’11, thin and i love working out but I’ve tried for years and years since high school trying to get a big butt since I thought that’s what made people beautiful. But that’s just not me and that is okay! Thank you as a fitness girly saying that because I honestly thought I couldn’t be considered fit unless I had a shelf :)

@megangodfrey626 11 ай бұрын

I am so not into Victoria secret. They contributed to my Ed. I love Jax’s song about Victoria’s Secret.

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry it had that impact on you. Exactly why I want to make that documentary, it’s effect on several generations is insane. Ooo I will look at that song thank you

@megangodfrey626 11 ай бұрын

That song is awesome! I hope you have a good weekend! Thanks!

@hannahstampy 10 ай бұрын

It WAS that deep, and this type of content is super important. Well done! ❤

@sonalsinha5084 11 ай бұрын

Exactly what I needed today, after a stressful day! Love your content, thank you for sharing no hogwash knowledge!! ❤❤. Alsooooo, go drink some water Keltie!!

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Wow Sonal, THANK YOU cause I literally have not yet 😂🙏🏼 Have an amazing Saturday and hope you can chill out after all the stress 🩵

@sonalsinha5084 11 ай бұрын

@@KeltieOConnor ok, now I'm worried about your hydration. Stay hydrated 💪❤️

@Ameliaisabellazachariassen 10 ай бұрын

I LOVED the Angels and the vsfs, I grew up watching it and has been obsessed with their beauty. They never made me feel bad. On the other hand, it helped me take better care of myself in terms of self-care, and consistent workouts to feel healthy. I still look up to the Angels that once were, and I often catch myself watching vsfs backstage footage, their swimsuit commercials, and their makeup videos. I miss it so much.

@serenasomerset Ай бұрын

The funniest thing is that people hated the new “diverse” fashion show so much that their sales suffered so much more after it that they decided to scrap it and go back to what the people want: BEAUTIFUL UNREALISTIC MODELS

@prinzessinnnn 11 ай бұрын

I actually really like how you pointed out that it was seen as empowering and progressive //at the time//, I feel like there could be a lot more to discover/unpack from that statement! I also appreciate that you brought in someone else’s perspective ❤

@LethalLeslie 11 ай бұрын

Never watched the Victoria secret show, don’t shop there, don’t care what models look like. Don’t care what they eat, how they workout or how they dress. They were never in my thoughts. I always gravitated towards fitness magazines. I will say, I always look forward to your videos on saturdays!!

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for your perspective! Love that we get to spend every Saturday together!!

@anayakaursidhu 10 ай бұрын

So I was born in 2005 (I’m 18 now) and I never watched the show growing up but a few months ago, I watched the VS angels and demons documentary (highly recommend watching it if anyone reading this hasn’t already and wants to dig deeper into the “Victoria’s Secret” brand). While I can see how toxic the VS culture is, when I watched the 2018 full fashion show, they had a mini transition segment in between runways and showed how hard the angels trained leading up to the show and how fit they wanted to be. I honestly think it’s so inspirational and showed me that if I maintain good training habits alongside good eating habits that I get where I want to be in terms of what I want my body to look like (while also enjoying a little treat every once and a while). Also side note for Keltie (if u are reading this): I just wanted to thank you and the videos you make because they really helped me with my capstone project last year (it was on health and fitness) 😊

@KeltieOConnor 10 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh that is the best compliment that my videos could help you with that project 🥹 I’m so honoured!!! Thank you for your input on the Vs topic!! 🩵

@jessiesmith2162 11 ай бұрын

Your hair is looking sooo healthy!

@elbearza2310 11 ай бұрын

Definitely felt pressure as a teen to look thinner even though I’ve always been more stocky with thick thighs ( I’m that type of Eastern European) anyways so I would have disordered eating and body image issues. Also didn’t help that I had breast issues and the bras never fit me right so I was always blaming me for not fitting the clothes when the bras should have been fitting me, like the other way around. So yea lots of things come out of it but I still have some yoga pants and shirts and body spray and underwear from VS and pink. There are 3 sports bras I still own from VS that are my best and most worn workout ones, and they were the first ones to make high impact sports bras in fun colours that I knew of so…. Like Keltie said: it’s both fun and harmful kinda but at the time options weren’t as vast as now

@dianevierra781 11 ай бұрын

I never really got into VS. I think growing up, I had been discouraged from giving it much attention as a teenager and young adult, for religious and mental reasons. On the other hand, I was also more of a tomboy so I didn't really give much of a crap about having sexy underwear. I just wanted to be comfy. That changed a little bit as I got older but not by much, and not enough to make me want to invest in their underwear. This video is absolutely important, though, because there is a lot of nuance to this conversation, and if you do end of making a documentary on this, Keltie, I look forward to seeing how you explore this topic further!

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for your perspective Diane!! The more insights I get the better chance I have of making this doc ☺️

@SLocky82 11 ай бұрын

Yea the models eating 'pizza and junk food' etc was very strange, it always reminds me of Friends, i mean the women in that are very lean but they basically live on takeaways! I will say though regarding VS models, at the end of the day if you're getting paid and getting that success you will put in the effort to look that way, and i agree that their curvier but more muscular appearance had a much healthier affect on me than the 'heroin chic' models. I am glad that today though they are more transparent with what they actually eat and how much effort they put into thier physiques. Great video as always Keltie 👍

@shannonbrady___ 11 ай бұрын

Your videos rock-- fun and silly, but also endearing and honest with your input! I loved VS shows, but I know I personally have never struggled with serious body image issues. Overall, I think the show was fun, but the conversations, trends, + topics that came with it were not always the healthiest. Great video!

@katiefoster2169 10 ай бұрын

My issue with vs was not the actual fashion show, it was the unhealthy things that happened within the company. I don’t blame the models for anything, they were just doing their jobs based on what the men they worked for desired. It was completely misogynistic because there were people behind the “vision” that hated women for what made them women. It would’ve been revolutionary for vs to have every kind of woman represented in their campaigns and fashion shows. But they publicly said that they didn’t think women outside of their “ideal” woman were worthy. And now they’re over correcting and doing some performative inclusion, which always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

@tasimasisamoa1766 11 ай бұрын

My day always gets better when i see Keltie drop a new video. 🥹 love love love the content, woman! 🙌🏽

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

This comment just made my day 🥹🩵

@michellesmith9442 10 ай бұрын

I based my bridal party walking in at my wedding reception on the 2013 fashion show, their make up, hair everything, they walked in to My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark 😂

@ronsypk 10 ай бұрын

I caught the VS show when the girls were fit, with a muscle definition and I was impressed. I thought they'd be looking like a stick (like on Fashion TV). But these girls were skinny but also fit which was motivating me to workout and try different styles and showed me that models actually eat and it's fine.

@nothanksmegan 11 ай бұрын

Og angels were undeniably gorgeous. But I never felt like I needed to look like an angel to ve considered attractive by someone. I am 5”2’, small chested, had bad teeth and was poor, this show wasn’t “for me” either but I still admired these gorgeous ladies in a way….. but I compared myself more to the prettiest gals at school, not vs models. It’s ok to be amazed by impossibly feminine beauty, it doesn’t mean you’re ugly or it’s not inclusive.

@kathleensolomon9041 11 ай бұрын

Keltie, I really liked this objective look back at “vintage” VS and how not all of it was detrimental, but it was not all empowerment either. For me, even though there have been ups and downs in my life, it was where i learned that I could be sexy for myself rather than sticking with the ugly bras that i was raised on. And i still have and wear things that make me feel good for me. I’d love to see your take on “The Super Models” series they’re running on Apple TV.

@greengypsybird2680 6 ай бұрын

I will never understand why women get mad and want to “cancel” models. It’s their job. It’s like getting mad at lawyers because not everyone can be a lawyer. Just watch the show. Why strive to be something or get mad or hate yourself over something that literally not everyone can do. It’s not that deep.

@LivingTheZoeLife 10 ай бұрын

Aww Keltie, you're my happy place at the moment. I always watch your new videos when they come out but for the last couple of weeks I've been watching your older ones that I've not watched before, so for hours every day you're chatting away at me in the background while I cook, clean, get ready, generally do life... And it's genuinely so lovely to have a funny, intelligent, well-balanced, confidence-boosting human talking at me. Thanks for all of your content and for opening up about some of your struggles too. Sending love and happy vibes from the UK! ❤ (Oh, and I get so jealous whenever you're back in Sweden. It's my favourite country. I've been three times in the last couple of years and it just feels like home. Might have something to do with my blonde hair and blue eyes. I'm hoping to get out there again soon!)

@melinawright5350 11 ай бұрын

I struggled with B*limia really badly growing up (teen from 1999-2004) so VS really didn't do me any favors. And the "eating pizza thing" was so irritating to me. Still is. As a bottomless pit who doesn't have hunger cues I couldn't never relate to eating 'normally.'. Who can just eat one slice of pizza? Not I. Due to laws of thermodynamics most people who have to stick to one slice... so that was always annoying to hear models act like they eat whatever. No, no they don't. Or they just get full and walk away from the food after a few bites.

@colleenbloeser4226 7 ай бұрын

I really appreciate your coverage and take on the nuances of victorias secret

@juliagirlgirl123 11 ай бұрын

LOVED the stopping the middle of the video and the real chat❤️❤️

@beezreisig733 7 ай бұрын

I think you nailed it- it can be both! I remember as a young kid, watching VS shows and seeing the models and that body type being the "best" body type. I though it was incredible to see women look so powerful and stunning, strutting with their muscles and their giant wings and their sex appeal with the glare that tells you that the sex appeal isn't supposed to be for YOU. But just like you have always been long and lean, I have been heavyset since preschool. I also remember waking up three hours before middle school to work out, skipping lunches, counting calories in homeroom, and eventually spiraling into a disordered pattern that lasted a decade and did permanent damage to my health. It is complicated and I really appreciate that you took the time to look into the grey area.

@sophiemc2012 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for pointing out that two things can be true at the same time, even if they're opposing thoughts or ideas. I get so frustrated sometimes when people don't understand this. Most things are not all good or all bad.

@alohabyamanda 11 ай бұрын

we need the VS fashion show back!!!! 😥😥💖💖

@figureskater71889 10 ай бұрын

Woah! Keltie and Kaya! Didn't realize I needed this crossover!

@thebebejebus 11 ай бұрын

Keltie seems like such a nice friend. Obsessed

@53taylorlautnerlover 7 ай бұрын

i really liked this vid & your nuance abt the topic! i think also a big part of it for me was that I was Obsessed w the barbie movies growing up esp fairytopia and it j felt a little like the victoria secret models w their wings and their long legs and beautiful sparkly outifts were the closest we could get to that fairytale world! and like i was a child so i didnt think abt the sexiness aspect much until teen years and it was like a world that didnt have anything to do w men in my mind at the time so it felt pure and j like a womens space ig

@kaleighcaron562 10 ай бұрын

I worked at VS for 5 years and agree completely with what you said. I have soo much to say about this topic and hope you do more videos!

@itszoeymaynard 10 ай бұрын

Everything about this was perfect. Totally agree with you, I grew up watching my fav VS angels and loved it. Miss old Victoria’s Secret 💗

@rosanneabdulla5774 11 ай бұрын

All I remember is the Large+ sports bras at Pink cost more than the Small and Medium sizes

@lilida19 10 ай бұрын

Yes please make the documentary!:) great video, many things I didn’t know

@leslieshchegolev5310 10 ай бұрын

Yes doc series! Grew up with VS as the epitome of beauty and carried that with me into my 20s.

@itsme-oe8ud 11 ай бұрын

So glad I found your channel. Such quality content. Love from Australia ❤️❤️❤️

@fleur1792 7 ай бұрын

Personally, I never grew was truly impacted by the VS fashion shows as I was only born in the late 2000s, so I never had to really grow up with that pressure because I was a kid. What I do remember, really vaguely, is going into VS as a kid and getting a body spray and lotion. Then my friends came over and where like "omg you have something from VS!". From my perspective, its always just been there, it's that one mysterious shop in the mall and based off what I've seen now, I think it really made an impact in popular culture, but its up to personal opinion whether it was and is good or bad.

@PreciousMe 11 ай бұрын

Kim K doesn't have a Kim K! She bought everything. You are gorgeous just the way you are and we love you! Big Hugs

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Big hugs back!!!

@solomiyakotyk5883 10 ай бұрын

Yesss a documentary would be so great!!

@jdmingioni 11 ай бұрын

Keltie you’re the best

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

No YOURE THE BEST 🩵🩵

@colors_in_noise 11 ай бұрын

I’m petite, thin in some parts, curvy in others, and busty. Everything VS never fit. I always thought it was me till I figured out they were “sister sizing” me like crazy. Putting me in a 34B until they carried 32C but I needed a 28DD that they still don’t carry. I too thought it was what you needed to look like to be perfect but my 5’1” self would never make that standard. I accept myself now and know I’m great the way I am but I still don’t see my 41 year old self as a “woman” or an “adult woman” even though I am because I don’t fit in “women’s “ clothes ir shoes. So I would absolutely watch a documentary you make on this. 💜💜💜

@jacksonthedoggy 11 ай бұрын

This was a great video Keltie!

@ayssasabarretto676 10 ай бұрын

Hey Keltie, I really enjoyed your video and the different perspectives. Growing up in Germany, VS wasn't as prevalent as in North America but it definitely influenced me. Since the VS models were the only popular representation of sexiness in women that was also kind of respected I guess (?) it kind of taught us that this is the way to be attractive (in a heteronormative world I would say) and I feel like that is a bit damaging. Of course, when you're older you understand that it is their job to look perfect (and what I'm saying is definitely not against the models), but there are things that you just can't change about your body even if you had the energy, time and money to work on it like they do, so I believe many young girls would have benefitted from a more realistic approach to beauty and sexiness.

@kaashkaash8695 11 ай бұрын

Being from Europe I never even heard of the show until maybe 3 or 4 years ago. Never watched and couldn't care less honestly. I find it interesting how this kind of content is said to be created for women but in actuality it is only for women from the North American continent. Also, in my opinion, the kind of women who are overly concerned with representation. It all seems superficial and shallow to me, the whole representation debate is purely focused on outward appearances. Just like the vs show is. On another note I did enjoy your genuine interview in this video. You can feel the connection you two had.

@JessKaplan 11 ай бұрын

I loved the VS show, and I always tan out ti try to get the bras that they sold after from the show. It was empowering for me knowing I had something sparkley and fun and sexy. And I’ve never been stock thin!! But they def need to evolve more like Sports Illustrated Swimsuit has managed to do. I’m glad they are giving it an overhaul. Great video, I’d love to see more! ❤

@thewhiterose101 11 ай бұрын

I worked for them for a looooong time, Ive always had a huge appreciation for how the right undergarments can make u feel good & confident in your own body. I think the subject of them as you mentioned is complicated & I think we all know they were very slow with embracing change & change in body types but I am happy that they are changing now & Im excited for it. I was thin for many years but gained weight over time & though Im in the process of trying to loose weight ive never felt self conscious with regards to the image VS put out with models as I new they rigorously worked out but everyone is different in their experiences & feelings so im sure others probably feel different than i do regarding that but i felt amazing wearing their undergarments & i wore them for myself not for others because it made me feel good.

@strawberryinsomnia9188 11 ай бұрын

I couldn’t afford VS or Pink, didn’t have access to the show and none of my friends were interested, and always found them a little mainstream for my edgy preteen/teenage self (2009-2013ish) but did like the way they knew how to make the kind of cute and comfy loungewear teen girls wanted. I did have deeply unhealthy aesthetic goals, but on the 15 BMI kpop and Chinese actress side of the spectrum-and as someone tall and naturally inclined to hypertrophy, ironically the Angels would have been a much healthier aspiration for me.

@laurena3460 11 ай бұрын

I live in the UK there were no VS stores that I had ever seen and I knew basically nothing about the brand, but I had seen clips online right as I was tipping into a really bad time in my life and using disordered eating as a crutch to get me through, particularly before I had medical intervention for the disaster that was my mental health. I used to watch the re-runs online as I did fasted workouts in my room, just the worst mentality, I was convinced that these shiny perfect women could never feel the way I felt and if I looked even a little like them I would feel better too. Thankfully I am not hurting like that anymore and have lived enough life to understand how warped, desperate, and immature/niave that way of thinking was. Perhaps more body diversity in the show will stop any other young people falling into that trap.

@clara.etcetera 11 ай бұрын

So interesting! Loved it Keltie❤

@Ambersand13 10 ай бұрын

I agree with you! It can be fun to think about just enjoying lingerie on runway with wings and that’s great but at the end of the day the reality for me is it makes me a bit sad. Watching the show or walking into Vs stores growing up, sold me on something I could never have and no one can truly have 24/7 as you mentioned. To me back then I saw that the women were sexy with “full busts” and somehow had no subcutaneous fat on their arms tummy or thighs and gorgeous long legs. Its normal to have fat on your belly to protect you, to have muscle and fat on your legs but that’s not what you see on these women. I didn’t and still don’t have average breasts and no bra can make me feel like I do but I like them the way the are, they are small and I have decided I love them. That’s normal. Enough things added up to make the imagery toxic, between not seeing a lot of representation/diversity among on stage, I ended up seeing all the models as the same which is sad. I couldn’t appreciate their differences. They were all beautiful but they were all picked because they all had something in common that made them “good enough” by society and to be celebrated-they looked “desirable” in lingerie. I felt “othered” and I felt like those were true women and something I am not. I wanted so badly to have those features to be accepted, pad the bra, look like I have leaner legs, etc. The message I got was: “Women with these measurements, flesh, and other features etc are women and you are not”

@laurahunter1690 11 ай бұрын

Fellow Cdn here. Really enjoy your content and comedy rants.

@Tania689 10 ай бұрын

Whether conscious or subconsciously things in media like the VS fahion show -> moreso the portrayal of beauty within the show had an impact on most (not all) women, whether they felt pressured to be that standard and achieved it, felt the pressure and didn't or couldn't achieve it or wanted to go against what they saw to be the norm and wanted to be known as an outlier on purpose (whether they truly felt that way inside or not)

@JosieDiekoson-tk6ks 10 ай бұрын

I think we have to look at these things, and even people, and be able to recognize that they were NEVER just one thing (good vs. bad for example.) The fashion show helped catapult me into full blown ED. HOWEVER, I think it’s important to add, I was already suffering from starving myself, had undiagnosed mental illness, I was naturally thin and sickly, and my own athletic coaches were also pressuring me to lose weight so I’d “run faster” for track. On the other end of the spectrum, VS helped me learn to embrace my own sexuality. I loved the way I looked in their bras, and as I got older I learned to shop at that store with confidence. The half-naked ladies on the walls later served more as role models to embrace what I had all along. I understand why you had to stop a few times, but I do think we’ve almost taken on a black and white way of thinking about everything, when in reality, there’s sooooo much grey area.

@NamiZenin 11 ай бұрын

I live in Germany so I guess we were a little bit behind with the vs but personally I would say while the shows did have a very negative impact on my body image it was also the time where blogilates (as a example) grew in popularity and I think Casey over time realized that we need more than vs workouts but also guidance in the food we eat and how we need balance... so I guess starting with the vs workout trend we got a lot of health background because those body's were not sustainable (I hope you understand what I mean as mentioned English is not my first language 😂😂)

@ervinsmoviecorner8748 11 ай бұрын

The last day of September, Keltie!❤❤

@KeltieOConnor 11 ай бұрын

Thank you Ervin! Have a great October 👻🎃👻

@ervinsmoviecorner8748 11 ай бұрын

You too!

@stephanierodriguez3160 10 ай бұрын

TBH I was on my peak form during this era, dancing ballet, swimming, enjoying the VS fashion show, this bring good memories

@kelseybohn108 11 ай бұрын

I defiantly loved the show growing up and envying the models, but also don’t think how much the show and of course other elements impacted my to the point where I had disordered eating issues at 20-2. It’s so hard to love something so much but also not love the impact on your brain, like I feel the same way about fitness girls on Instagram sometimes when they only show themself as toned and shredded. It’s not their fault but when you see something that you look at so often (typically on my fyp or reels) and there’s disconnect between how you feel like you are preserved. Then having to do mental gymnastics with myself to remind myself that’s not them all the time and your body isn’t there it is just so hard. To be healthy and not restrict is so fing hard sometimes and I see it in my sisters and my mom and it makes me so upset that I waste so much fing time thinking about my body. My lil meat sack that is on a rock hurtling around a ball of fire in infinite space and I’m thinking about my body? When the universe is ever expanding and there’s so many other things that I could be thinking about but no it’s my lil meat sack!

@kktheripper 11 ай бұрын

Omg I would watch it every year! I would kick everyone off the tv lol

@p0up0un3 10 ай бұрын

Still finding ways to watch the old VS show because they were the dream 😍 they looked so confident and radiant on stage. The 2 times I stepped in a VS shop (there are no vs store in my country), I literally felt like a princess. There was nothing wrong with the old campaign... It just happened that one day a troll made a bad comment that another troll pick up on until it caught enough momentum to be on some sensational lame news that turned into the big national serious news... I hate that first troll. 😅

@zahzahzee Ай бұрын

I watched this e v e r y year. Like I had watch parties for this growing up.

@dorothyzimmers206 11 ай бұрын

I absolutely loved the VS show. Do the documentary!!

@polkabee123 10 ай бұрын

Somewhat unrelated but i have massive appreciation for the ridiculous number of hooks on that bathroom wall

@dmitriyobidin6049 10 ай бұрын

Not only women. Men also has to deal with "superheroes" bodies, especially in a marvel movies and tinder era . We just tend to care less. We are able accept the fact that Thor's body is amazing and even admire it, but also getting the fact that it involves to much work for an average joe :) I don't think that VS/beauty/Marvel standards should be considered normal, but i also don't think that having an ideal that you aim for is a bad thing. It's like saying that Michael Jordan is toxic to modern basketball players cause they are not as good as he was. It just doesn't even sound right :) Should i stop playing basketball with my friends cause i will never be able to be as good as NBA players? NO. Why people tend to treat models with different approach? They are working 24/7 to look that way, i shouldn't blame myself for the fact that i don't look like them, but at the same time they motivate me to do everything that i can to be a better version of myself. We should treat top 0.001% of all of the people as an ideal that we could be aspired by, not the average standard.

@iyzabel 11 ай бұрын

I'm a GenX, never watched the show, never cared. But as a young woman, I liked fashion photos of the iconic 90s models that were spread all over Vogue and the likes.

@alyssadanielle_ 11 ай бұрын

I was the tallest and skinniest girl in my community growing up. My body wasn’t celebrated by the women or girls around me. I heard comments about my lack of curves and my scrawny physique constantly - often to my face. I found the VS fashion show “late” and watched all of the reruns. I saw myself represented - and celebrated - on that runway. For the first time, I felt like I could be considered beautiful. I was angry when the show was canceled and now, I honestly don’t support the brand unless I need a quick gift for a lingerie shower. I’m so excited to watch the tour though! I’m hoping VS has finally made their “come back”.

@constanceways 10 ай бұрын

Yes!! Please develop this subject more 🥰🥰🥰

@kathrynmccarter3429 11 ай бұрын

Victoria secret definitely formed my conception of what a sexy woman as I was becoming a teenager and luckily for me I am naturally a slim I fit the type I just needed the abs but even just that thing having is something I’ve never had and have always felt my stomach as my biggest insecurity even tho from an outside perspective I am small. What made me feel worse about my body was the raise of needing a big bum and boobs to be sexy as that is something I will never have. I am only early 20s now but experiencing that shift did make me realise how much of a trend bodies are and although i still want and and a big bum etc I know that the best is for me to be healthy so it’s just training my brain to to think of my body like that

@josie4789 9 ай бұрын

Victoria's Secret was the reason I got hot. I literally started working out and eating good and I started doing my make up more in natural & flattery way like angels do and basically I got hot so yeah so i'll give the credit for it

@Pursuitsofmybookishheart 11 ай бұрын

I never saw a show and entered a Vs store for the first time in my mid twenties. I guess that’s living in the middle of nowhere for you. My mom sold lingerie for a living in a small shop and I remember that I was unimpressed with the quality of the garments for their price. But they looked very nice and sparkly and I definitely was tempted nonetheless. Watching your video was interesting because it was a whole new universe . Plus that food looked amazing 😅

@ItsDestineeJ 11 ай бұрын

Can you do a video recreating the popular smoothies at home? 😅😊

@gigixou 7 ай бұрын

Such a balanced view of VS...great job! I remember when VS was celebrated bc at that time, they were considered and celebrated for their progressive marketing...

@Cloggindancer 11 ай бұрын

CINDY CRAWFORD- as goofy looking kids with scars, moles and quads, seeing her- with her "athletic curves" and beauty mark- was an eye opener for me. At the time, it was revolutionary and refreshing and inspiring for those of us who didn't cut with the waif look

@fury5500 9 ай бұрын

I lived in europe for most of my life so victorias secret wasn't that huge of a deal. I do like the aesthetic of dark lace and the such, but at the same time i have no desire to ever want to be like the models in any capacity other to just be as tall as them. I don't resonate with the idea of being sexy either to myself or to anyone else nor do i think it's even possible or empowering to me, so i only bought body sprays from them when they did open in europe. That being said, i haven't been inside there for years.

@LKJONES0406 10 ай бұрын

Confession: I read that one on he models used to belt her waist when they slept.( like a waist trainer), and at a young age, I would belt my waist so I could create a defined defined. I was just an athletic build ( straight)

@skoz_ 10 ай бұрын

VS show was something I never even realised was happening until 2020 and people started doing “I ate like A Victoria Secret model for the day” and stuff like that. It’s had no real impact on me at all and I’ve been in the health and fitness community for 10 years!